not at all. again, there is NOTIHNG the playerbase can/would do that could change their minds about most (as in 99.9999999%) things
This extends to video games in general. just look at EA, one of the most horrible companies in existence but is probably one of the biggest video game distributors of all time.
wrong, there have been plenty of mmo's where the player base has caused changes. f2p games require players, happy players willing to spend money and players in the case of in game cash/cash shop currencies exchanges of some type players to buy from the spending players. or else they die. a simple truth, if you lose enough players and spending players you die. that's been you know...proven.
on topic:
as to boycotting, coming up again for me anyway. cryptics still doesn't seem to get the player base is smarter than they think and more easily bored with grind than ever before. they'll still get quite a bit of cash short term, delta packs, the few players who want to hit max in everything asap, etc.
when that sudden burst of income peters off then cryptic might start rethinking a few things. but until then the diehards aren't going anywhere and any boycott wouldn't be felt except in queues until the exchange goes stagnant and zen stops flowing. in a month or so when everyone who's spending doesn't need to anymore for whatever goal they had...that's the best time.
though the sad part...cryptic quite often also doesn't get that players who aren't happy with the game aren't likely to spend money on it. as if all the unrest in the forums has no impact at all on their bottom line.
Dr. Patricia Tanis ~ "Bacon is for sycophants and products of incest."
Donate Brains, zombies in Washington DC are starving.
I'm just curious and in no way am I trying to be inflammatory, but there have been calls in various chats about a boycott.
Would you? Could you?
I'm not sure I could even if I was willing to. Don't get me wrong, elite patrols were not broken. I am kinda miffed too, but would a boycott really do anything? I am also as tired as everyone else of really large bugs not being fixed but an emergency quarantine being pretty quick.
I don't know - I've been in game since launch. Either I am burning out on the game or Cryptic is burning me out on the game, maybe both.
While Im not likely boycotting, i think im just going to log in on select toons to grind my reps, and hopefully hold out until there is a more enticing exp gaining method other than patrols with hp sponges.
Its sad, there is story content, but i cant play for them mindnumbing grind
[Combat (Self)] Your Bite deals 2378 (1475) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother.
I simply wish there were a way for the community as a whole to voice their frustrations in a way tha was communicative without having to resort to walking away.
I simply wish there were a way for the community as a whole to voice their frustrations in a way tha was communicative without having to resort to walking away.
Well there is not. Businesses do not understand anything but numbers. If the numbers are gone, they will notice. If the numbers remain, they will learn nothing.
Change is not an easy path to go. It requires great sacrifice to achieve. You can't have your cake and eat it too. The naked lady on the horse was a liar. But no one cared because it was a naked lady. You see a naked lady, who gives a TRIBBLE what's coming out of her mouth? IT'S A NAKED LADY!
:eek:
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP"
I simply wish there were a way for the community as a whole to voice their frustrations in a way tha was communicative without having to resort to walking away.
That will happen when the community actually agrees on something
wrong, there have been plenty of mmo's where the player base has caused changes. f2p games require players, happy players willing to spend money and players in the case of in game cash/cash shop currencies exchanges of some type players to buy from the spending players. or else they die. a simple truth, if you lose enough players and spending players you die. that's been you know...proven.
on topic:
as to boycotting, coming up again for me anyway. cryptics still doesn't seem to get the player base is smarter than they think and more easily bored with grind than ever before. they'll still get quite a bit of cash short term, delta packs, the few players who want to hit max in everything asap, etc.
when that sudden burst of income peters off then cryptic might start rethinking a few things. but until then the diehards aren't going anywhere and any boycott wouldn't be felt except in queues until the exchange goes stagnant and zen stops flowing. in a month or so when everyone who's spending doesn't need to anymore for whatever goal they had...that's the best time.
though the sad part...cryptic quite often also doesn't get that players who aren't happy with the game aren't likely to spend money on it. as if all the unrest in the forums has no impact at all on their bottom line.
DOOOOOOOOOM!!!
yeah, see, your line of thinking fails IRL, name ONE decently well known F2P MMO that has had major changes because of a playerbase. Heck, even most P2P MMOs have these kind of issues.
Also, with your logic, why is one of the most viled companies in Video games (EA) also one of the biggest and yet they only ever get worse.?
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Remember when all those Video Game boycotts changed the industry, and all game publishers, and companies realized the error in their ways, and everything was great again:rolleyes:
I remember this...everybody refused to buy a quality product, the publishers took notice and have been releasing TRIBBLE for well over a decade.
I simply wish there were a way for the community as a whole to voice their frustrations in a way tha was communicative without having to resort to walking away.
Not everybody in the community shares the same apparent frustrations...so there would not be any community as a whole sharing anything.
yeah, see, your line of thinking fails IRL, name ONE decently well known F2P MMO that has had major changes because of a playerbase. Heck, even most P2P MMOs have these kind of issues.
Also, with your logic, why is one of the most viled companies in Video games (EA) also one of the biggest and yet they only ever get worse.?
dont know if its well known, but i remeber ********* (holy hell you cant say its name?) changed its entire style which very few players wanted, and they brought back an older version of the game for older players to play (was subscription only.. but still something)
[Combat (Self)] Your Bite deals 2378 (1475) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother.
dont know if its well known, but i remeber ********* (holy hell you cant say its name?) changed its entire style which very few players wanted, and they brought back an older version of the game for older players to play (was subscription only.. but still something)
If you mean SWG, yeah, the "brought back" version is completely separate entity from the original creators of the game.
Also, mind you was an older game and, as you said, it was a subbed game, an OLD sub game. Thus the devs actually cared about he community.
If you mean SWG, yeah, the "brought back" version is completely separate entity from the original creators of the game.
Also, mind you was an older game and, as you said, it was a subbed game, an OLD sub game. Thus the devs actually cared about he community.
think were are talking different games :P 'swg' means nothing to me (then again lots on internet acronyms do ;.; ) the one i was talking about relates to runes <hope thats vauge enough >.>
[Combat (Self)] Your Bite deals 2378 (1475) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother.
think were are talking different games :P 'swg' means nothing to me (then again lots on internet acronyms do ;.; ) the one i was talking about relates to runes <hope thats vauge enough >.>
okay, even older than that, yeah That rune game that ends in scape. Um, considering they basically made it so that you HAD to sub to basically play, yet still called themselves a F2P game, yeah, not much better.
okay, even older than that, yeah That rune game that ends in scape. Um, considering they basically made it so that you HAD to sub to basically play, yet still called themselves a F2P game, yeah, not much better.
still it was technically f2p :P
But back to the main topic, boycotting has limited success, very limited xD
But with luck cryptic/perfect world will see sense
[Combat (Self)] Your Bite deals 2378 (1475) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother.
Mass Effect 3 was one of the biggest blunders EA had come out with, and they're still making another.
As long as people keep throwing money at a company, they will keep churning out the same old TRIBBLE.
It goes for any video game company, PWE/Cryptic included.
Really, it comes down to people wanting comforting lies instead of ugly truths in regards to video game development. People prefer being placated by non-answers and spin. People really can't handle the truth these days.
The idea of a boycott only works if they actually care what we think. The evidence mounts that they do not.
Dilithium sinks soared with the crafting revamp and the upgrade system, but without a corresponding means to earn dilithium quickly - in fact, STFs are harder and longer to complete than they have been since this game went F2P. So the dilithium market was just artificially
manipulated, creating more demand for dilithium, driving up the value of zen points on the dilithium exchange, resulting in more zen sales. And I can't help but think someone in marketing is giddy over that.
That's just one example.
It all smacks of the most abject greed. I can't see me playing this game much longer. I'd come back maybe for the story missions, but even then - how many DR missions are just, "Warp in, survive 5 waves of ___, warp out." Yeesh.
You've got your mother and your brother
Every other undercover
Tellin' you what to say (say)
You think I'm stupid
But the truth is
That it's cupid, baby
Lovin' you has made me this way
So before you point your finger
Get your hands off of my trigger
Oh yeah
You need to know this situation's getting old
And now the more you talk
The less I can take, oh
I'm looking for attention
Not another question
Should you stay or should you go?
Well, if you don't have the answer
Why are you still standin' here?
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Just walk away
Just walk away
Just walk away
I waited here for you
Like a kid waiting after school
So tell me how come you never showed (showed)?
I gave you everything
And never asked for anything
And look at me
I'm all alone (alone)
So, before you start defendin'
Baby, stop all your pretendin'
I know you know I know
So what's the point in being slow
Let's get the show on the road today
Hey
I'm looking for attention
Not another question
Should you stay or should you go?
Well, if you don't have the answer
Why are you still standin' here?
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Just walk away
Just walk away
Just walk away
I wanna love
I want a fire
To feel the burn
My desires
I wanna man by my side
Not a boy who runs and hides
Are you gonna fight for me?
Die for me?
Live and breathe for me?
Do you care for me?
'Cause if you don't then just leave
I'm looking for attention
Not another question
Should you stay or should you go?
Well, if you don't have the answer
Why are you still standin' here?
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Just walk away
If you don't have the answer
Walk away
Just walk (walk) away
(Just walk away)
Then just leave
Yeah yeah
Walk away
Walk away
Walk away
You've got your mother and your brother
Every other undercover
Tellin' you what to say (say)
You think I'm stupid
But the truth is
That it's cupid, baby
Lovin' you has made me this way
So before you point your finger
Get your hands off of my trigger
Oh yeah
You need to know this situation's getting old
And now the more you talk
The less I can take, oh
I'm looking for attention
Not another question
Should you stay or should you go?
Well, if you don't have the answer
Why are you still standin' here?
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Just walk away
Just walk away
Just walk away
I waited here for you
Like a kid waiting after school
So tell me how come you never showed (showed)?
I gave you everything
And never asked for anything
And look at me
I'm all alone (alone)
So, before you start defendin'
Baby, stop all your pretendin'
I know you know I know
So what's the point in being slow
Let's get the show on the road today
Hey
I'm looking for attention
Not another question
Should you stay or should you go?
Well, if you don't have the answer
Why are you still standin' here?
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Just walk away
Just walk away
Just walk away
I wanna love
I want a fire
To feel the burn
My desires
I wanna man by my side
Not a boy who runs and hides
Are you gonna fight for me?
Die for me?
Live and breathe for me?
Do you care for me?
'Cause if you don't then just leave
I'm looking for attention
Not another question
Should you stay or should you go?
Well, if you don't have the answer
Why are you still standin' here?
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Just walk away
If you don't have the answer
Walk away
Just walk (walk) away
(Just walk away)
Then just leave
Yeah yeah
Walk away
Walk away
Walk away
If I were sober at the moment.. I could do sooo much with this...
(thank goodness for spell-check)
:cool:
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Provided people actually are serious about Boycotting, there needs to be some key points put into play. Otherwise using the word Boycott just shows ignorance over what it actually is. It becomes little more than a buzzword or a catch-all to describe unhappiness with PWE/Cryptic.
So here is where I educate people on what a Boycott on PWE/Cryptic would have to resemble to receive any kind of concessions from the top levels in Redwood and Los Gatos.
A Boycott is a weapon used by consumers to damage the reputation and public image of a company. It generally has no bearing on sales and net profits. People will continue giving money to PWE/Cryptic regardless, and things will go as they have been.
To have an effective Boycott you need a few things.
1: Media Attention. This is what makes Boycotts effective and what causes them to fail. Without media attention, nobody cares. Nobody knows. In short, without catching the public eye, someone or some people saying they will boycott STO and any PWE/Cryptic business just comes off as immature crybabies.
2: A previously existing poor reputation with PWE/Cryptic. While we can argue whether or not this point is in play till the epohhs come home, what really matters is whether or not PWE/Cryptic cares about their public image or reputation with the video game industry.
Take EA as a previous example. They simply have enough cash flowing in that they consider themselves invincible against any threats of Boycott. They are powerful enough that a Boycott does not matter, and they have a well-deserved reputation for being evil that they simply do not care. They can afford not to care.
Can PWE/Cryptic afford not to care? I'm guessing they can. But maybe I'm wrong.
3: Pick your battles. Decide victory conditions.
If you are going to boycott PWE/Cryptic over something (or several somethings) you are opposed to, then there must be enough of you that can agree on what needs to be changed, and what specific criteria must be met.
No vague victory conditions are going to make a Boycott successful. This is the problem that Occupy Wallstreet had. There was no centralized leadership or a single unifying voice over what specific changes must be met.
If I know the STO community as well as I think I do, none of you can come together in a harmonious unifying voice to decide whether to inhale or exhale, let alone come up with a comprehensive and detailed list over what concessions must be made before the threat of boycott is rescinded (or ended).
More importantly, pick your battles. This has to be something so terribly damning against PWE/Cryptic that no future threats of Boycott could be made. Otherwise Boycotting becomes a case of the boy who cried wolf. Boycotting is not a consumer weapon to be wielded haphazardly. It must be powerful, but used extremely rarely. Otherwise the threat of Boycott becomes weaker and weaker.
I haven't logged in since I saw there was no way for me to upgrade the mirror universe ship for my main. Captain 6 of 69 is from, and was assimilated in, mirror universe and she will not fly generic universe ships. I have no intentions to log in again until my navy friend who plays returns from his deployment, and won't play again if these changes turn him away from the game as well.
with that said, game developers hear so much QQ over every little thing they do, they have a tendency to flat out ignore any real gripes about the big TRIBBLE ups. they get a "everyone TRIBBLE so we're just gunna do what we want to do and TRIBBLE whoever doesn't like it" mentality - it's sad when that happens, and i've walked away from some great games when they took this turn down the drain....
Sometimes A game community has to take big steps to wake them up.
And - Sometimes protests do work, a great example occurred in EvE online with the Incarna update... the update was not well liked by the player base, and the dev's started talking back and defending their decisions instead of listening to the complaints. In the end thousands of players spent days doing nothing but shooting the indestructible stations in the major trade hubs non stop until the dev's finally took it seriously - after that, the company created a player voted council that now sit in on major decisions and help drive the development of the game. - http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/25/eve-online-controversy-erupts-in-protests/
sadly here, the big stuff everyone is QQing about is obviously broken and is being nerfed, but little things like me having to abandon my main because the ship I created her to fly went from being able to hold it's own whatever the need, to being practically useless as it can not be leveled to meet the new content reg's, and goes boom at the first sight of the new buffed up content. Simply because there aren't very many people affected by it.
when has a "boycott" EVER worked in any MMO, ever....
Look up the Jita protests in EVE Online.
Granted, people didn't stop playing, but they deliberately put the games servers under a lot of strain just by having a TRIBBLE ton of players in the most populated star systems.
CCP took note, changed things and even honored the player movement with an ingame monument.
Look up the Jita protests in EVE Online.
Granted, people didn't stop playing, but they deliberately put the games servers under a lot of strain just by having a TRIBBLE ton of players in the most populated star systems.
CCP took note, changed things and even honored the player movement with an ingame monument.
Well, to be fair, EVE is run and caters to complete sociopaths, so any sort of insane behavior they celebrate.
It's like the Addams Family of MMORPGs over there.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP"
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wrong, there have been plenty of mmo's where the player base has caused changes. f2p games require players, happy players willing to spend money and players in the case of in game cash/cash shop currencies exchanges of some type players to buy from the spending players. or else they die. a simple truth, if you lose enough players and spending players you die. that's been you know...proven.
on topic:
as to boycotting, coming up again for me anyway. cryptics still doesn't seem to get the player base is smarter than they think and more easily bored with grind than ever before. they'll still get quite a bit of cash short term, delta packs, the few players who want to hit max in everything asap, etc.
when that sudden burst of income peters off then cryptic might start rethinking a few things. but until then the diehards aren't going anywhere and any boycott wouldn't be felt except in queues until the exchange goes stagnant and zen stops flowing. in a month or so when everyone who's spending doesn't need to anymore for whatever goal they had...that's the best time.
though the sad part...cryptic quite often also doesn't get that players who aren't happy with the game aren't likely to spend money on it. as if all the unrest in the forums has no impact at all on their bottom line.
Donate Brains, zombies in Washington DC are starving.
That requires sacrifice, something the internet does not know nor cares to know anything about.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
While Im not likely boycotting, i think im just going to log in on select toons to grind my reps, and hopefully hold out until there is a more enticing exp gaining method other than patrols with hp sponges.
Its sad, there is story content, but i cant play for them mindnumbing grind
Well there is not. Businesses do not understand anything but numbers. If the numbers are gone, they will notice. If the numbers remain, they will learn nothing.
Change is not an easy path to go. It requires great sacrifice to achieve. You can't have your cake and eat it too. The naked lady on the horse was a liar. But no one cared because it was a naked lady. You see a naked lady, who gives a TRIBBLE what's coming out of her mouth? IT'S A NAKED LADY!
:eek:
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
That will happen when the community actually agrees on something
DOOOOOOOOOM!!!
yeah, see, your line of thinking fails IRL, name ONE decently well known F2P MMO that has had major changes because of a playerbase. Heck, even most P2P MMOs have these kind of issues.
Also, with your logic, why is one of the most viled companies in Video games (EA) also one of the biggest and yet they only ever get worse.?
Thank goodness Pigs Can't Fly...
... oh krap.
:cool:
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
I remember this...everybody refused to buy a quality product, the publishers took notice and have been releasing TRIBBLE for well over a decade.
Not everybody in the community shares the same apparent frustrations...so there would not be any community as a whole sharing anything.
dont know if its well known, but i remeber ********* (holy hell you cant say its name?) changed its entire style which very few players wanted, and they brought back an older version of the game for older players to play (was subscription only.. but still something)
If you mean SWG, yeah, the "brought back" version is completely separate entity from the original creators of the game.
Also, mind you was an older game and, as you said, it was a subbed game, an OLD sub game. Thus the devs actually cared about he community.
think were are talking different games :P 'swg' means nothing to me (then again lots on internet acronyms do ;.; ) the one i was talking about relates to runes <hope thats vauge enough >.>
okay, even older than that, yeah That rune game that ends in scape. Um, considering they basically made it so that you HAD to sub to basically play, yet still called themselves a F2P game, yeah, not much better.
still it was technically f2p :P
But back to the main topic, boycotting has limited success, very limited xD
But with luck cryptic/perfect world will see sense
Luck......... you might as well be asking for a real life D&D cleric to come into the forums and cast wish, and even that might not even work.........
Madden. It's an entity unto itself. :P
Mass Effect 3 was one of the biggest blunders EA had come out with, and they're still making another.
As long as people keep throwing money at a company, they will keep churning out the same old TRIBBLE.
It goes for any video game company, PWE/Cryptic included.
Really, it comes down to people wanting comforting lies instead of ugly truths in regards to video game development. People prefer being placated by non-answers and spin. People really can't handle the truth these days.
Dilithium sinks soared with the crafting revamp and the upgrade system, but without a corresponding means to earn dilithium quickly - in fact, STFs are harder and longer to complete than they have been since this game went F2P. So the dilithium market was just artificially
manipulated, creating more demand for dilithium, driving up the value of zen points on the dilithium exchange, resulting in more zen sales. And I can't help but think someone in marketing is giddy over that.
That's just one example.
It all smacks of the most abject greed. I can't see me playing this game much longer. I'd come back maybe for the story missions, but even then - how many DR missions are just, "Warp in, survive 5 waves of ___, warp out." Yeesh.
You've got your mother and your brother
Every other undercover
Tellin' you what to say (say)
You think I'm stupid
But the truth is
That it's cupid, baby
Lovin' you has made me this way
So before you point your finger
Get your hands off of my trigger
Oh yeah
You need to know this situation's getting old
And now the more you talk
The less I can take, oh
I'm looking for attention
Not another question
Should you stay or should you go?
Well, if you don't have the answer
Why are you still standin' here?
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Just walk away
Just walk away
Just walk away
I waited here for you
Like a kid waiting after school
So tell me how come you never showed (showed)?
I gave you everything
And never asked for anything
And look at me
I'm all alone (alone)
So, before you start defendin'
Baby, stop all your pretendin'
I know you know I know
So what's the point in being slow
Let's get the show on the road today
Hey
I'm looking for attention
Not another question
Should you stay or should you go?
Well, if you don't have the answer
Why are you still standin' here?
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Just walk away
Just walk away
Just walk away
I wanna love
I want a fire
To feel the burn
My desires
I wanna man by my side
Not a boy who runs and hides
Are you gonna fight for me?
Die for me?
Live and breathe for me?
Do you care for me?
'Cause if you don't then just leave
I'm looking for attention
Not another question
Should you stay or should you go?
Well, if you don't have the answer
Why are you still standin' here?
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Just walk away
If you don't have the answer
Walk away
Just walk (walk) away
(Just walk away)
Then just leave
Yeah yeah
Walk away
Walk away
Walk away
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If I were sober at the moment.. I could do sooo much with this...
(thank goodness for spell-check)
:cool:
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Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
So here is where I educate people on what a Boycott on PWE/Cryptic would have to resemble to receive any kind of concessions from the top levels in Redwood and Los Gatos.
A Boycott is a weapon used by consumers to damage the reputation and public image of a company. It generally has no bearing on sales and net profits. People will continue giving money to PWE/Cryptic regardless, and things will go as they have been.
To have an effective Boycott you need a few things.
1: Media Attention. This is what makes Boycotts effective and what causes them to fail. Without media attention, nobody cares. Nobody knows. In short, without catching the public eye, someone or some people saying they will boycott STO and any PWE/Cryptic business just comes off as immature crybabies.
2: A previously existing poor reputation with PWE/Cryptic. While we can argue whether or not this point is in play till the epohhs come home, what really matters is whether or not PWE/Cryptic cares about their public image or reputation with the video game industry.
Take EA as a previous example. They simply have enough cash flowing in that they consider themselves invincible against any threats of Boycott. They are powerful enough that a Boycott does not matter, and they have a well-deserved reputation for being evil that they simply do not care. They can afford not to care.
Can PWE/Cryptic afford not to care? I'm guessing they can. But maybe I'm wrong.
3: Pick your battles. Decide victory conditions.
If you are going to boycott PWE/Cryptic over something (or several somethings) you are opposed to, then there must be enough of you that can agree on what needs to be changed, and what specific criteria must be met.
No vague victory conditions are going to make a Boycott successful. This is the problem that Occupy Wallstreet had. There was no centralized leadership or a single unifying voice over what specific changes must be met.
If I know the STO community as well as I think I do, none of you can come together in a harmonious unifying voice to decide whether to inhale or exhale, let alone come up with a comprehensive and detailed list over what concessions must be made before the threat of boycott is rescinded (or ended).
More importantly, pick your battles. This has to be something so terribly damning against PWE/Cryptic that no future threats of Boycott could be made. Otherwise Boycotting becomes a case of the boy who cried wolf. Boycotting is not a consumer weapon to be wielded haphazardly. It must be powerful, but used extremely rarely. Otherwise the threat of Boycott becomes weaker and weaker.
Prove me wrong. I'll eat my words.
I would love to, but we both know you are right.
All the while help bumping the thread several times a week till we got it to the thread with the most views in history.
Finally after 1½ years they gave up and fixed it.
Is one of the things that makes me laugh when I see them jumping to nerf something in 60 seconds
If this was something serious , sign me up for Monday morning .
with that said, game developers hear so much QQ over every little thing they do, they have a tendency to flat out ignore any real gripes about the big TRIBBLE ups. they get a "everyone TRIBBLE so we're just gunna do what we want to do and TRIBBLE whoever doesn't like it" mentality - it's sad when that happens, and i've walked away from some great games when they took this turn down the drain....
Sometimes A game community has to take big steps to wake them up.
And - Sometimes protests do work, a great example occurred in EvE online with the Incarna update... the update was not well liked by the player base, and the dev's started talking back and defending their decisions instead of listening to the complaints. In the end thousands of players spent days doing nothing but shooting the indestructible stations in the major trade hubs non stop until the dev's finally took it seriously - after that, the company created a player voted council that now sit in on major decisions and help drive the development of the game. - http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/25/eve-online-controversy-erupts-in-protests/
sadly here, the big stuff everyone is QQing about is obviously broken and is being nerfed, but little things like me having to abandon my main because the ship I created her to fly went from being able to hold it's own whatever the need, to being practically useless as it can not be leveled to meet the new content reg's, and goes boom at the first sight of the new buffed up content. Simply because there aren't very many people affected by it.
Me playing UT2k4 (red guy) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz0DnP7wXnU
Granted, people didn't stop playing, but they deliberately put the games servers under a lot of strain just by having a TRIBBLE ton of players in the most populated star systems.
CCP took note, changed things and even honored the player movement with an ingame monument.
Well, to be fair, EVE is run and caters to complete sociopaths, so any sort of insane behavior they celebrate.
It's like the Addams Family of MMORPGs over there.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
Yeah, except the Addams Family was a fictional parody.
The sociopaths at EvE Online are real.