It happened in EvE Online! Remember Jita IV!? The community rallied, en masse, to the Caldari system, and all started shooting the Jita IV station! (major trade hub). There where literally thousands of people that day, all in protest. It was truly epic!
Of course, EvE is a pure PvP game: ppl tend to be more die-hard, and organized, in a PvP community. But don't ever think the player base never accomplished anything!
Yeah ... , now compare that and what followed to how Cryptic would handle such a protest ... : remove the ability to shoot station , and call it a day (or call it an "exploit" and then call it a day) .
... calling it a day @ Cryptic usually means going back to playing SWTOR or WOW ...
I'm just curious and in no way am I trying to be inflammatory, but there have been calls in various chats about a boycott.
Would you? Could you?
My guess is that there will be - at least a partial and temporary - boycott on 11/13/14. I know a few people have a adversity against it, but whenever a new WoW Addon is being released, it tends to draw crowds, old players, from other mmos at least for a couple of weeks.
I remember when the Pandaria one was released, there seemed to be quite a big drop in activity, at least in the fleets (guilds and communities in other mmos) that I was in at that time.
My guess is that there will be - at least a partial and temporary - boycott on 11/13/14. I know a few people have a adversity against it, but whenever a new WoW Addon is being released, it tends to draw crowds, old players, from other mmos at least for a couple of weeks.
I remember when the Pandaria one was released, there seemed to be quite a big drop in activity, at least in the fleets (guilds and communities in other mmos) that I was in at that time.
Warlords is going to be crazy. The WoW General Forum has been firing off a bigger threadstorm than we are over, and this is serious: Gnome faces being too weird and no longer cute.
Like really? Gnomes? Who cares about Gnomes?
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Yeah ... , now compare that and what followed to how Cryptic would handle such a protest ... : remove the ability to shoot station , and call it a day (or call it an "exploit" and then call it a day).
People can say about CCP what they want, but they *do* listen to the community.
P.S. The Jita IV (Moon 4) station couldn't actually be destroyed, but could still be targeted. You had to be there, really, to partake of the awesomeness of this huge protest! Still gives me the chills.
Isn't there a targetable structure in STO somewhere?! Nevermind, Geko would just rush out his goons to put it 'under quarantine' and ruin it.
when has a "boycott" EVER worked in any MMO, ever....seriously this kind of thing just does not work because most players either never new what the issue was/is or simply do not care.
This is where you are wrong. EvE Online my friend. Couple years ago CCP did some bad decisions and players showed them what they thought about it. We flooded the main traid hub (Jita) and started shooting a station till the server crashed.
The players have the power your power is in your wallet or in your will not to login to the game for a week. But for that the community has to work together. Never gonna happen tho with f2p cookie cutter communities. Too lazy, too ignorant, too selfish. Bunch of whiners, always just complain but never act.
I bet at least 90% of boycott supporters will actively participate in Dilithium/Lobi weekend, thus supporting Cryptic/PWE.
Hell, I bet at least 90% of the boycott supporters would stick around here as if saying "Oh, I'm totally boycotting the game, so I'm gonna stay here and chat and complain."
This is where you are wrong. EvE Online my friend. Couple years ago CCP did some bad decisions and players showed them what they thought about it. We flooded the main traid hub (Jita) and started shooting a station till the server crashed.
The players have the power your power is in your wallet or in your will not to login to the game for a week. But for that the community has to work together. Never gonna happen tho with f2p cookie cutter communities. Too lazy, too ignorant, too selfish. Bunch of whiners, always just complain but never act.
We've already discussed YOUR kind of "boycotts".
Ya little wackadoodle.
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Elite Dangerous Beta and Alien Isolation are more fun anyway atm, so no problem.
That's how it works : you can't ask someone to boycott willingly boycotting or , in other words, stopping to play and to pay ( in most of the cases those things go together unless you are one of the few who live 24/7 in this game ) is something that is supposed to happen naturally .
So, no, I don't like that : inviting players to boycott is at the edge of banning and useless.
Instead, when someone starts to feel fed up with the game. then he can't do anything about it and his interest gets drawn by other more fun games or other stuff ... I was walking that line a week ago, right before DR.
Something like that happened to that star wars game
This is where you are wrong. EvE Online my friend. Couple years ago CCP did some bad decisions and players showed them what they thought about it. We flooded the main traid hub (Jita) and started shooting a station till the server crashed.
The players have the power your power is in your wallet or in your will not to login to the game for a week. But for that the community has to work together. Never gonna happen tho with f2p cookie cutter communities. Too lazy, too ignorant, too selfish. Bunch of whiners, always just complain but never act.
huh, EVE online is also a game full of sadistic monsters who can waste literally thousands of dollors on preying on the new players who could NEVER reach their level of play because of how the game is run.
huh, EVE online is also a game full of sadistic monsters who can waste literally thousands of dollors on preying on the new players who could NEVER reach their level of play because of how the game is run.
If EVE could reward RL grief with achievements, you know they would.
"Make a grown man cry and uninstall the game - 100g"
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I think it's way to early to boycott anything. Give them time to come up with some changes to the game. Patches and bugfixes don't write themselves over night. That being said I think STO is at a crucial point right now and action must be taken soon. That or all those returning players will be gone again in a few weeks with potentially serious consequences for STO and the STO team.
I want to make it clear that I was not calling for a boycott. Only that the word had been thrown around and it got me thinking about it. Purely hypothetical
When I get upset enough, I just quit the game and go play something else. I've done that with a few games in the past. I don't post long diatribes on the forums about why I quit. I don't start a petition. I just leave. Whenever the game devs try to find out why (and it's usually that survey kind of thing that asks: "Why did you leave?"), I explain why but almost always they ignore it and keep doing whatever it was that caused me to quit in the first place.
I get constant emails from companies that are convinced that just sending me an email will cause me to come back. And I delete those emails with a laugh.
But I love this game, so hopefully they never do anything that causes me to have to leave it. I'm kind of on the edge right now with the fact that in order to do T6, I have to pay real cash to enjoy this tier (when every other tier was actually awarded to players when they hit the level cap). Basically, the ball is in their court right now to provide a "value" that causes me to think they're not just profit-centered and don't care about the game and its players. It's amazing how the next step they take can so easily award or destroy their game.
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It would be nice to think that the Devs are looking at in game metrics / reading the forums and realising that a fair proportion (not all) of the player base are not happy with the current 50-60 levelling system.
Anything that happens, happens. Anything that in happening, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen. Anything that in happening, causes itself to happen again, happens again.
It doesn't necessarily do it in chronological order though.
It would be nice to think that the Devs are looking at in game metrics / reading the forums and realising that a fair proportion (not all) of the player base are not happy with the current 50-60 levelling system.
It would be really nice to think they they care, which it seems they don't.
It would be nice to think that the Devs are looking at in game metrics / reading the forums and realising that a fair proportion (not all) of the player base are not happy with the current 50-60 levelling system.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, nice joke..................oh wait your serious.....
There was a literally over 800 page thread asking cryptic to change the T5 Galaxy, it lasted for a couple years and it was a well known fact that the T5 galaxy is garbage.
They then preceded to completely ignore it and when they finally did something, it was literally nothing and did not help the T5 galaxy at all.
They do not care if we do not like it, what they say goes and there is nothing we can do to change it.
As long as it's gonna start next Monday I can, but not until. They sucked me into the rep grind and all 5 cap this weekend. Beyond that I may start playing DR but it's gonna be rough with my un-upgradable Mk XI weapons.
I played for about three months after NGE, but it just wasn't as fun anymore.
Too many of the people I often hung out with in that game just disappeared.
They really did that game a disservice.
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yeah, see, your line of thinking fails IRL, name ONE decently well known F2P MMO that has had major changes because of a playerbase. Heck, even most P2P MMOs have these kind of issues.
Also, with your logic, why is one of the most viled companies in Video games (EA) also one of the biggest and yet they only ever get worse.?
starcraft 2
wow
eve online
rappelz
tera
warframe
bsgo
age of conan
hellgate london
black prophecy *failed*
2 moons *failed*
megaten *failed*
wizardry online *failed*
i could go on...even within your stupid parameter of 'well known' as if that matters...an artificial restriction because you don't want to be wrong and tried to hedge your point 'if i don't know the game it isn't well known so doesn't count'. think i listed enough well known just from memory.
players vote with their money and time. games have failed when developers didn't listen. the only and consistent thing sto has ever had going for it is that its the only star trek mmo around.
EA puts out games you can't get from any other company and fools, a lot of them keep hoping that the next game won't be a dismal failure so they buy, that and they are heavily into consoles where they make their cash regardless selling if no where else to places like gamestop. and considering the sheer number of IP's EA controls...no mmo publisher comes close...silly comparison.
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Yeah ... , now compare that and what followed to how Cryptic would handle such a protest ... : remove the ability to shoot station , and call it a day (or call it an "exploit" and then call it a day) .
... calling it a day @ Cryptic usually means going back to playing SWTOR or WOW ...
My guess is that there will be - at least a partial and temporary - boycott on 11/13/14. I know a few people have a adversity against it, but whenever a new WoW Addon is being released, it tends to draw crowds, old players, from other mmos at least for a couple of weeks.
I remember when the Pandaria one was released, there seemed to be quite a big drop in activity, at least in the fleets (guilds and communities in other mmos) that I was in at that time.
Warlords is going to be crazy. The WoW General Forum has been firing off a bigger threadstorm than we are over, and this is serious: Gnome faces being too weird and no longer cute.
Like really? Gnomes? Who cares about Gnomes?
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
People can say about CCP what they want, but they *do* listen to the community.
P.S. The Jita IV (Moon 4) station couldn't actually be destroyed, but could still be targeted. You had to be there, really, to partake of the awesomeness of this huge protest! Still gives me the chills.
Isn't there a targetable structure in STO somewhere?! Nevermind, Geko would just rush out his goons to put it 'under quarantine' and ruin it.
well.... considering that there is not much left to play... whats left to be boycotted?
Would I? No... Cause I agree with cryptic on this matter.
This is where you are wrong. EvE Online my friend. Couple years ago CCP did some bad decisions and players showed them what they thought about it. We flooded the main traid hub (Jita) and started shooting a station till the server crashed.
The players have the power your power is in your wallet or in your will not to login to the game for a week. But for that the community has to work together. Never gonna happen tho with f2p cookie cutter communities. Too lazy, too ignorant, too selfish. Bunch of whiners, always just complain but never act.
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Hell, I bet at least 90% of the boycott supporters would stick around here as if saying "Oh, I'm totally boycotting the game, so I'm gonna stay here and chat and complain."
We've already discussed YOUR kind of "boycotts".
Ya little wackadoodle.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
Not going to support any of this nonsense going on here with Cryptic or PW or whoever is in charge for all this.
Elite Dangerous Beta and Alien Isolation are more fun anyway atm, so no problem.
So, no, I don't like that : inviting players to boycott is at the edge of banning and useless.
Instead, when someone starts to feel fed up with the game. then he can't do anything about it and his interest gets drawn by other more fun games or other stuff ... I was walking that line a week ago, right before DR.
Something like that happened to that star wars game
Which is exactly why I said that I would be available for any boycott ... on Monday .
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huh, EVE online is also a game full of sadistic monsters who can waste literally thousands of dollors on preying on the new players who could NEVER reach their level of play because of how the game is run.
If EVE could reward RL grief with achievements, you know they would.
"Make a grown man cry and uninstall the game - 100g"
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I want to make it clear that I was not calling for a boycott. Only that the word had been thrown around and it got me thinking about it. Purely hypothetical
My wifes already deleted it as there's nothing left to grab her attention.
Would I? Honestly, I don't care that much.
I get constant emails from companies that are convinced that just sending me an email will cause me to come back. And I delete those emails with a laugh.
But I love this game, so hopefully they never do anything that causes me to have to leave it. I'm kind of on the edge right now with the fact that in order to do T6, I have to pay real cash to enjoy this tier (when every other tier was actually awarded to players when they hit the level cap). Basically, the ball is in their court right now to provide a "value" that causes me to think they're not just profit-centered and don't care about the game and its players. It's amazing how the next step they take can so easily award or destroy their game.
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It would be really nice to think they they care, which it seems they don't.
"Working as intended."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, nice joke..................oh wait your serious.....
There was a literally over 800 page thread asking cryptic to change the T5 Galaxy, it lasted for a couple years and it was a well known fact that the T5 galaxy is garbage.
They then preceded to completely ignore it and when they finally did something, it was literally nothing and did not help the T5 galaxy at all.
They do not care if we do not like it, what they say goes and there is nothing we can do to change it.
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I played for about three months after NGE, but it just wasn't as fun anymore.
Too many of the people I often hung out with in that game just disappeared.
They really did that game a disservice.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
starcraft 2
wow
eve online
rappelz
tera
warframe
bsgo
age of conan
hellgate london
black prophecy *failed*
2 moons *failed*
megaten *failed*
wizardry online *failed*
i could go on...even within your stupid parameter of 'well known' as if that matters...an artificial restriction because you don't want to be wrong and tried to hedge your point 'if i don't know the game it isn't well known so doesn't count'. think i listed enough well known just from memory.
players vote with their money and time. games have failed when developers didn't listen. the only and consistent thing sto has ever had going for it is that its the only star trek mmo around.
EA puts out games you can't get from any other company and fools, a lot of them keep hoping that the next game won't be a dismal failure so they buy, that and they are heavily into consoles where they make their cash regardless selling if no where else to places like gamestop. and considering the sheer number of IP's EA controls...no mmo publisher comes close...silly comparison.
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