Like iconians said though, we need to get the word out too. Maybe even hit up their social-media sites like (Facebook and Twitter.)
Of course I'm a little worried about the amount of "HP" their thick skulls have for getting our point across. Some companies (and people) you'll never through to.:(
I barely care one iota about this game anymore, so yes, I could boycott; I could do it for months without batting an eye.
The game is only still here because it's called "Star Trek." If this were a random space MMO, without the Star Trek name and logo attached... it would already be long gone. Same reason the train wreck SWtoR is still up and running: Because it carries the name of a very, very popular fan base and franchise.
I have never been a doom sayer, but I can recognize the signs that things are starting to fail. I doubt this game will last another full year at this rate; I certainly wouldn't give it more than 2. They may as well call this game the new hardcore edition; don't play unless you can throw hundreds of dollars into the void.
Puh; my days of giving Cryptic any money are long since over. This game used to be fun. Not anymore.
I honestly cant see anyone gathering enough people together to send any sort of meaningful manner with a week long boycott.
Ive never even heard of a boycott working. But if it does. It would mean you refuse to take part in the game til things change. Otherwise there is no lesson learned besides you arent as serious about your message to Cryptic as you think. Jumping out of the game for a week is nothing to Cryptic.
And good luck organizing enough players to put a dent in their metrics that will remain out of the game for up to 3 months or more. Because thats what its going to take to send a message. Large numbers of paying players and months of avoidance.
I think it's way to early to boycott anything. Give them time to come up with some changes to the game. Patches and bugfixes don't write themselves over night. That being said I think STO is at a crucial point right now and action must be taken soon. That or all those returning players will be gone again in a few weeks with potentially serious consequences for STO and the STO team.
I honestly cant see anyone gathering enough people together to send any sort of meaningful manner with a week long boycott.
Ive never even heard of a boycott working. But if it does. It would mean you refuse to take part in the game til things change. Otherwise there is no lesson learned besides you arent as serious about your message to Cryptic as you think. Jumping out of the game for a week is nothing to Cryptic.
And good luck organizing enough players to put a dent in their metrics that will remain out of the game for up to 3 months or more. Because thats what its going to take to send a message. Large numbers of paying players and months of avoidance.
^This. It'll take a LOT more than a "STO Skip Day" to send a true message.
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Well, I have my own boycott going on AND its EXACTLY the one everyone in here believes will finally wake them up. I acquire my C-Store Regent months ago, then upgraded it to fleet versions on all my 4 toons. It has a decent Aux2Bat build and with the 4 toons, I get 32K refined Dil a day. I have not spent a penny since and will continue to not do so. My son is so upset over Cryptic/PW TRIBBLE, he's not even asking for the stuff that costs money from STO. We want or need anything, we grind Dil, turn to Zen, and get what we need or buy to sell items for EC. I too like another posted earlier, have seen PW run games into the ground, and they weren't that great of games either. STO is a good game going bad due to the parasite PERFECT WORLD leeching it dry!
However, for it to truly work, again, like most have stated, it requires a dedication from the player fanbase for it to work. When enough players stop buying Zen with cash, Lifers (like myself) stop selling their Zen for Dil (which I done at least 6 months ago once Zen value went straight in the toilet and NEVERED returned), then there will be no more Zen to purchase with Dil, and as long a the player base doesn't spend cash for any other C-store items, or lock box keys, you'll see a real change in attitudes for Cryptic/Perfect World then. When the Dil market dries up due to no Zen to buy since no one is buying Zen from Cryptic/PW, either they will listen and start making changes (like killing the leech on them named Perfect World) and replace them with what we call in poker, "a Straight Dealer", or the game WILL die due to bleeding to death from the leech.
BTW, boycotting by not playing the game won't work due to the fact that with each player that stops playing, there's 10 - 100 or more taking his place coming right in the door of the game and they don't even know it.
I'm giving my disposable income to sid meier's civilization beyond earth. I'll be gone for a few weeks to play the new civ game. And my money will be going to the DLC. Even though I hate DLC, I rather spend it there than give it to cryptic at this point.
I'm just curious and in no way am I trying to be inflammatory, but there have been calls in various chats about a boycott.
Would you? Could you?
I'm not sure I could even if I was willing to. Don't get me wrong, elite patrols were not broken. I am kinda miffed too, but would a boycott really do anything? I am also as tired as everyone else of really large bugs not being fixed but an emergency quarantine being pretty quick.
I don't know - I've been in game since launch. Either I am burning out on the game or Cryptic is burning me out on the game, maybe both.
Last time I took a week off I was gone for almost a year lol may take another year off at the rate things are going. :mad:
Want a notable impact? Atrocious turn out for the 'Delta Rising' celebration weekend and carry on from there. A hefty bulk of players snubbing free lobi and bonus Dil, and numbers staying poor, will be felt I'm sure.
But people are unwilling to give up such things. They wouldn't over the Avenger/Mogh shenanigans to milk money from players. Nor the 'pay or grind' anniversary event. Just shallow *****-fits.
There's a reason DR was the first time I played really since spring.
I would be happy enough to find something else to do, it's not like logging in is easy at the moment, the thing is... It's just not worth it, they don't care, if they see enough people leave it they'll just shut it down in favour of a more profitable enterprise...
when has a "boycott" EVER worked in any MMO, ever....seriously this kind of thing just does not work because most players either never new what the issue was/is or simply do not care.
It happened in EvE Online! Remember Jita IV!? The community rallied, en masse, to the Caldari system, and all started shooting the Jita IV station! (major trade hub). There where literally thousands of people that day, all in protest. It was truly epic!
Of course, EvE is a pure PvP game: ppl tend to be more die-hard, and organized, in a PvP community. But don't ever think the player base never accomplished anything!
I simply wish there were a way for the community as a whole to voice their frustrations in a way tha was communicative without having to resort to walking away.
Truth is I think they purposefully set things up so you can't, I mean take the ToS for example. Nothing is allowed that would essentially undermine what they are doing, no petitions for example. Though I agree with you it would be nice to have our thoughts heard, truth be told companies who know they're bad compared to others usually have rules in place to stop people making it obvious.
Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head. - Euripides
I no longer do any Bug Hunting work for Cryptic. I may resume if a serious attempt to fix the game is made.
I simply wish there were a way for the community as a whole to voice their frustrations in a way tha was communicative without having to resort to walking away.
Except there's no way to do anything like that in STO... I'm sure lots of us would love the ability to destroy ESD or something to make a point, sadly though, resistance is futile here.
Except there's no way to do anything like that in STO... I'm sure lots of us would love the ability to destroy ESD or something to make a point, sadly though, resistance is futile here.
when has a "boycott" EVER worked in any MMO, ever....seriously this kind of thing just does not work because most players either never new what the issue was/is or simply do not care.
Oh it did work on SWG. The game was shut down soon after the majority of players quit the game.
when has a "boycott" EVER worked in any MMO, ever....seriously this kind of thing just does not work because most players either never new what the issue was/is or simply do not care.
Blizzard changed their mind over a forum change in less than three days because of the way the community reacted over it.
WAR has to have one of the shortest lives of any game. Within a year of release they lost so many players because they just wouldn't listen over bug issues. The game got mothballed and was closed down completely quite recently.
Yes, at least 5 years ... the main reason they shut down SWG was because SWTOR launched 1 month later (pretty sure that wasn't a coincidence ...)
All the NGE Rage & Quitters ... sadly didn't matter ... played some time in 2009 -> complete Ghosttown ...
-> Fun Fact : You were able to build your own little Towns ... so it's not just a figure of speech ...
Patch Notes : Resolved an Issue, where people would accidently experience Fun.
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Like iconians said though, we need to get the word out too. Maybe even hit up their social-media sites like (Facebook and Twitter.)
Of course I'm a little worried about the amount of "HP" their thick skulls have for getting our point across. Some companies (and people) you'll never through to.:(
Mhmm. Those dudes scare me.
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-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
The game is only still here because it's called "Star Trek." If this were a random space MMO, without the Star Trek name and logo attached... it would already be long gone. Same reason the train wreck SWtoR is still up and running: Because it carries the name of a very, very popular fan base and franchise.
I have never been a doom sayer, but I can recognize the signs that things are starting to fail. I doubt this game will last another full year at this rate; I certainly wouldn't give it more than 2. They may as well call this game the new hardcore edition; don't play unless you can throw hundreds of dollars into the void.
Puh; my days of giving Cryptic any money are long since over. This game used to be fun. Not anymore.
Ahhh we're not that bad, just have to pay your dues and feed us your tears.... way better community then the old 10/six servers.
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That's the message.
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love them eve tears also
system Lord Baal is dead
Ive never even heard of a boycott working. But if it does. It would mean you refuse to take part in the game til things change. Otherwise there is no lesson learned besides you arent as serious about your message to Cryptic as you think. Jumping out of the game for a week is nothing to Cryptic.
And good luck organizing enough players to put a dent in their metrics that will remain out of the game for up to 3 months or more. Because thats what its going to take to send a message. Large numbers of paying players and months of avoidance.
^This. It'll take a LOT more than a "STO Skip Day" to send a true message.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
However, for it to truly work, again, like most have stated, it requires a dedication from the player fanbase for it to work. When enough players stop buying Zen with cash, Lifers (like myself) stop selling their Zen for Dil (which I done at least 6 months ago once Zen value went straight in the toilet and NEVERED returned), then there will be no more Zen to purchase with Dil, and as long a the player base doesn't spend cash for any other C-store items, or lock box keys, you'll see a real change in attitudes for Cryptic/Perfect World then. When the Dil market dries up due to no Zen to buy since no one is buying Zen from Cryptic/PW, either they will listen and start making changes (like killing the leech on them named Perfect World) and replace them with what we call in poker, "a Straight Dealer", or the game WILL die due to bleeding to death from the leech.
BTW, boycotting by not playing the game won't work due to the fact that with each player that stops playing, there's 10 - 100 or more taking his place coming right in the door of the game and they don't even know it.
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Last time I took a week off I was gone for almost a year lol may take another year off at the rate things are going. :mad:
But people are unwilling to give up such things. They wouldn't over the Avenger/Mogh shenanigans to milk money from players. Nor the 'pay or grind' anniversary event. Just shallow *****-fits.
There's a reason DR was the first time I played really since spring.
It happened in EvE Online!
Of course, EvE is a pure PvP game: ppl tend to be more die-hard, and organized, in a PvP community. But don't ever think the player base never accomplished anything!
A visual linky for the records:
The Jita Microtransaction Riot
Truth is I think they purposefully set things up so you can't, I mean take the ToS for example. Nothing is allowed that would essentially undermine what they are doing, no petitions for example. Though I agree with you it would be nice to have our thoughts heard, truth be told companies who know they're bad compared to others usually have rules in place to stop people making it obvious.
Again, I point to the The Jita Microtransaction Riot
Resitance is NOT futile!
I WAS THERE
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It is a peculiar phenomenon that we can imagine events that defy the laws of the universe.
Except there's no way to do anything like that in STO... I'm sure lots of us would love the ability to destroy ESD or something to make a point, sadly though, resistance is futile here.
Yeah, too bad ESD isn't targettable.
Oh it did work on SWG. The game was shut down soon after the majority of players quit the game.
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Blizzard changed their mind over a forum change in less than three days because of the way the community reacted over it.
WAR has to have one of the shortest lives of any game. Within a year of release they lost so many players because they just wouldn't listen over bug issues. The game got mothballed and was closed down completely quite recently.
Not really ...
NGE = 2005
Shutdown = 2011
... soon after = 6 years ?
I never played it actually. Just from hearsaying.
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Yes, at least 5 years ... the main reason they shut down SWG was because SWTOR launched 1 month later (pretty sure that wasn't a coincidence ...)
All the NGE Rage & Quitters ... sadly didn't matter ... played some time in 2009 -> complete Ghosttown ...
-> Fun Fact : You were able to build your own little Towns ... so it's not just a figure of speech ...
I am not sure but I think it was only shut then because the license/contract wasn't renewed.