Curious that every player can be allowed to project superfluous flashing lights onto other players screens but no player should have control over what happens on their own screen. Some players must be really starving for attention.
You want the Grummelnet brand Groovatron, you want the enemy to stop shooting, you want soothing disco music, you want that moment to reload, you want improper use of funk, don't you?
Curious that every player can be allowed to project superfluous flashing lights onto other players screens but no player should have control over what happens on their own screen. Some players must be really starving for attention.
Here's an idea, turn off the game.
Players already do have control over what happens on their own screen. :rolleyes:
Seriously though, people need to accept the fact that STO is an MMORPG, interaction with other players, bad or good, is the primary defining characteristic of the genre.
And honestly trolls will ALWAYS find a way to troll, somehow, somewhere.
Second point, They really aren't, but some people just have thin skins.
I'm just curious if you got any justification or actual line of reasoning in store to explain how an item that forces other players to do things against their will is not a griefing item.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
I'm just curious if you got any justification or actual line of reasoning in store to explain how an item that forces other players to do things against their will is not a griefing item.
Because firstly it's just an alternate idle animation, so who cares? You would have to pretty uptight for that to be an issue.
Secondly it doesn't force them to do anything. You are perfectly free to move out of the area of effect or beam to another location or switch zones.
Honestly this whole thing is the biggest example of "first world problems" I can think of.
It's not myfault ifyoufeel trolledbymyDisco ball...Sorry'boutit.
Because firstly it's just an alternate idle animation, so who cares? You would have to pretty uptight for that to be an issue.
Secondly it doesn't force them to do anything. You are perfectly free to move out of the area of effect or beam to another location or switch zones.
Honestly this whole thing is the biggest example of "first world problems" I can think of.
First, people have the rigth to be uptight.
Second, it forces them to move. Yeah, switching the game off is an option, but its not a good one.
It is a first world problem, yes. You got that right....somehow.
Because in any sensible world, this would result in the offending item getting deleted by a company that would actually care about their customers.
Because ever since STO devs started to make troll items, I haven't given them a single dime, and I encourage people to do the same.
To a company that cares, that would matter. But honestly, Cryptic keeps STO up just for the sake of publicity. Their golden moneymaker is now Neverwinter.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Second, it forces them to move. Yeah, switching the game off is an option, but its not a good one.
It is a first world problem, yes. You got that right....somehow.
Because in any sensible world, this would result in the offending item getting deleted by a company that would actually care about their customers.
Because ever since STO devs started to make troll items, I haven't given them a single dime, and I encourage people to do the same.
To a company that cares, that would matter. But honestly, Cryptic keeps STO up just for the sake of publicity. Their golden moneymaker is now Neverwinter.
The devs have taken steps to prevent players from doing things that actually impede the ability of others to play the game.
Remember cryo grenades? they used to be able to send other players into red alert at any time. Thus disrupting them if they were using Bank, exchange, etc. It was most annoying in the case of Dabo as the player would lose their bet and get nothing. THAT was griefing.
Like the other guy said, disco balls do no such thing. They are strictly a visual effect.
The devs have taken steps to prevent players from doing things that actually impede the ability of others to play the game.
Remember cryo grenades? they used to be able to send other players into red alert at any time. Thus disrupting them if they were using Bank, exchange, etc. It was most annoying in the case of Dabo as the player would lose their bet and get nothing. THAT was griefing.
Like the other guy said, disco balls do no such thing. They are strictly a visual effect.
unlike the active immunity overload which does exactly what the pre-nerf cryo 'nade did...only this does damage as well, so it can kill people in social zones
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
In the end, in my opinion, it's all about freedom. We're talking about a virtual world here. Very little is "impossible". Unprofitable, perhaps. Yes, it may defeat the "social" aspect of an MMO, but when BOTH sides can get what they want, I'm all for it.
They're not really gone, as long as we remember them
I was thinking about this. I was standing at the edge of the dance floor on Risa and someone set off a party ball where I should have been affected by it, but my toon didn't start dancing. So does the dance floor impart an immunity buff while standing on it? Like Q's peace enforcement. If so could cryptic make a tribble or device that imbibes the user with that immunity? They could call it the "Party Pooper" or "Buzz Kill" this way those who do not wish to participate in the party ball effects could have an out or other could use it to emote differently under the party ball like shredding an air guitar.
I love it when old threads stutter along and refuse to die.:rolleyes:
This is a good thing, actually.
The tears in this thread are of fairly good vintage, and the bitterness put into it actually makes it taste oh so sweet.
Honestly, when the party items came out, I gave two ****s about them. But when I found out about how people like in this thread have heart attacks about a disco ball or a balloon passing by their screen, I simply had to partake in the festivities.
and just to add on to that...neverwinter flopped - hard
that's why STO is PWE's biggest moneymaker
I also remember a bunch of staff that were on STO were diverted to work on Neverwinter.
I wonder how things would be if STO didn't suffer those personnel losses on the staff.
As for STO being the Breadwinner for them, it's kind of funny. When STO released, it was pretty disastrous in terms of the state STO was in. It was BAD. But yet it's chugging along now. IMO, STO could have used another year in development instead of releasing the state it was in. Also, I'd like to say the main reason STO still existed after such a bad release was this.
STAR TREK
For me, that was the single lifeline that tugged me to come back and see how things looked after my 2 year break from the game after the first few months of release until around 2012. I also believe the Trek name was what kept this game alive, as far as people sticking it out or coming back.
There are times in gaming when an IP means everything. Without the Star Trek name, this game, IMO, would have died in 2010 or early 2011 at the latest. Heads were rolling back then, including one of the founders of Cryptic, IIRC. It was a very bad release... That STO exists now is a testament to the Star Trek name.
Reasons I hope this thread never winds up necro'd.
- As long as all the Party Amp complainers are in one place, they're easier to track.
- The sputtering indignation some of them use in W.O.T. posts can be outrageously funny.
- Even funnier? They think the rest of us take them as seriously as they take themselves.
- I will continue to have a reason to stockpile and use Party Amps.
- Last but not least, to deliberately misquote worffan :::drumroll:::
HAIL (Party) BA'AL!
That's it. I'm done. Show's over. Move along. Move along. Nothing to see here.
A six year old boy and his starship. Living the dream.
Honestly, when the party items came out, I gave two ****s about them. But when I found out about how people like in this thread have heart attacks about a disco ball or a balloon passing by their screen, I simply had to partake in the festivities.
THIS!
/10chars
They're not really gone, as long as we remember them
Let me add another voice to the chorus saying this would be a nice feature. It irritates the hell out of me when someone pops one of these balls or the balloons, etc, etc. If I want to dance or see balloons then I'll dance or shoot balloons. If I don't want to then I don't want to and would appreciate an option to turn the foolishness off.
I have seen what power does. And I have seen what power costs. The one is never equal to the other.
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
That and maybe raise the prices a bit (to cut down the frequency). Seriously, look at the GPL market - it's almost asking for this to happen, particularly since we are forced to play Dabo in certain missions. There is nothing else even close to that price available - the other items all cost at LEAST 15x the price of the party thingies.
The trolls would still do it, but they'd have to put in a lot more work to get the GPL. And the casual players who are picking up one or two to burn up the GPL they were forced to get... won't.
This is why nobody takes the anti-discoball crowd seriously. Anyone who uses them is automatically labelled a troll because you can't handle some coloured lights in a game. I'm glad they got upgraded with combat buffs because now this ridiculous cry of "OMG EVERYONE WHO USES THESE IS A TROLL" is going to die as people start using them for the combat benefits as well as spicing up zones with a bit of fun.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
Comments
Seriously, it's a video game. It's not like someone is putting a gun to your real head and making you really dance.
Rayzee
excellentawesome#4589
torgaddon101
raeat
Helpful Tools: Dictionary.com - Logical fallacies - Random generator - Word generator - Color tool - Extra Credits - List of common English language errors - New T6 Big booty tutorial
But this is beating a dead horse, Cryptic loves catering to trolls.
Here's an idea, turn off the game.
Players already do have control over what happens on their own screen. :rolleyes:
Seriously though, people need to accept the fact that STO is an MMORPG, interaction with other players, bad or good, is the primary defining characteristic of the genre.
And honestly trolls will ALWAYS find a way to troll, somehow, somewhere.
If you believe the topic is a dead horse why even make the suggestion?
And for the record there are no "troll items" in the game.:D
R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
Because it costs nothing, see?
And yes, there are troll items in game. Some of them seem to be actually designed for griefing.
first point, fair enough.
Second point, They really aren't, but some people just have thin skins.
R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
I'm just curious if you got any justification or actual line of reasoning in store to explain how an item that forces other players to do things against their will is not a griefing item.
Because firstly it's just an alternate idle animation, so who cares? You would have to pretty uptight for that to be an issue.
Secondly it doesn't force them to do anything. You are perfectly free to move out of the area of effect or beam to another location or switch zones.
Honestly this whole thing is the biggest example of "first world problems" I can think of.
R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
First, people have the rigth to be uptight.
Second, it forces them to move. Yeah, switching the game off is an option, but its not a good one.
It is a first world problem, yes. You got that right....somehow.
Because in any sensible world, this would result in the offending item getting deleted by a company that would actually care about their customers.
Because ever since STO devs started to make troll items, I haven't given them a single dime, and I encourage people to do the same.
To a company that cares, that would matter. But honestly, Cryptic keeps STO up just for the sake of publicity. Their golden moneymaker is now Neverwinter.
Just hopped in for a moment and saw this...
The day before Brandon became PWE community lead (which means recently) I was in an STF with him where he said that STO is PWE's most profitable game.
So...
I'm gonna take a guess and say STO is still the cash cow.
P.S. Cryptic gets no money from sales, it all goes to PWE who them puts money into Cryptic.
that's why STO is PWE's biggest moneymaker
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Remember cryo grenades? they used to be able to send other players into red alert at any time. Thus disrupting them if they were using Bank, exchange, etc. It was most annoying in the case of Dabo as the player would lose their bet and get nothing. THAT was griefing.
Like the other guy said, disco balls do no such thing. They are strictly a visual effect.
My character Tsin'xing
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Rayzee
excellentawesome#4589
torgaddon101
raeat
For disclosure purposes I am a party ball user.
R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
This is a good thing, actually.
The tears in this thread are of fairly good vintage, and the bitterness put into it actually makes it taste oh so sweet.
Honestly, when the party items came out, I gave two ****s about them. But when I found out about how people like in this thread have heart attacks about a disco ball or a balloon passing by their screen, I simply had to partake in the festivities.
I also remember a bunch of staff that were on STO were diverted to work on Neverwinter.
I wonder how things would be if STO didn't suffer those personnel losses on the staff.
As for STO being the Breadwinner for them, it's kind of funny. When STO released, it was pretty disastrous in terms of the state STO was in. It was BAD. But yet it's chugging along now. IMO, STO could have used another year in development instead of releasing the state it was in. Also, I'd like to say the main reason STO still existed after such a bad release was this.
STAR TREK
For me, that was the single lifeline that tugged me to come back and see how things looked after my 2 year break from the game after the first few months of release until around 2012. I also believe the Trek name was what kept this game alive, as far as people sticking it out or coming back.
There are times in gaming when an IP means everything. Without the Star Trek name, this game, IMO, would have died in 2010 or early 2011 at the latest. Heads were rolling back then, including one of the founders of Cryptic, IIRC. It was a very bad release... That STO exists now is a testament to the Star Trek name.
- As long as all the Party Amp complainers are in one place, they're easier to track.
- The sputtering indignation some of them use in W.O.T. posts can be outrageously funny.
- Even funnier? They think the rest of us take them as seriously as they take themselves.
- I will continue to have a reason to stockpile and use Party Amps.
- Last but not least, to deliberately misquote worffan :::drumroll:::
HAIL (Party) BA'AL!
That's it. I'm done. Show's over. Move along. Move along. Nothing to see here.
- I'm the OP and I think this is the most successful thread I ever started, on any forum!
Rayzee
excellentawesome#4589
torgaddon101
raeat
THIS!
/10chars
Rayzee
excellentawesome#4589
torgaddon101
raeat
Let me add another voice to the chorus saying this would be a nice feature. It irritates the hell out of me when someone pops one of these balls or the balloons, etc, etc. If I want to dance or see balloons then I'll dance or shoot balloons. If I don't want to then I don't want to and would appreciate an option to turn the foolishness off.
count me in
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
This is why nobody takes the anti-discoball crowd seriously. Anyone who uses them is automatically labelled a troll because you can't handle some coloured lights in a game. I'm glad they got upgraded with combat buffs because now this ridiculous cry of "OMG EVERYONE WHO USES THESE IS A TROLL" is going to die as people start using them for the combat benefits as well as spicing up zones with a bit of fun.