I do not think that would look very good. Plus, the clashing symbolisms would be a mess. If one is going to go RR or RSE, it is best to do it all the way.
The whole uniform thing is messed up. As a Romulan allied with the KDF I can't purchase any of the lobi,Fleet,special KDF uniforms for my KDF Boff's. They also can't wear any of the RR uniforms. The whole system needs to be looked at and fixed. My Boff's should be allowed to wear any KDF uniform or any RR uniform.
There also needs to be either a special Rep uniform or Romulans need to be allowed to wear the MACO or Omega sets.
Also the wrist sets for the Romulan KDF uniform suck. Why is it that the KDF specifically uses the wrist for its transporters yet the Feds are the ones with the wrist technology looking set?
Just recently started a Romulan allied with the KDF and was very disappointed to find that I can't purchase any of the Lobi KDF specific costumes.
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Something I've noticed more recently is that the rank shoulder pads are modeled wrong. After looking at more of the Romulan NPC characters stationed around the Dyson Joint Command map, they should be something like the Klingon ones, with an open space between the pad and the uniform. The current ones seem to be completely solid, which ends up looking really stupid with most uniform, as the metal parts of the shoulder pads don't really match up with any other uniform color, except maybe the Klingon Variants.
Also, can we get the option to remove the capes? Some of the pads look cool, but I hate having the giant bundle of cloth on my back all the time.
Something I've noticed more recently is that the rank shoulder pads are modeled wrong. After looking at more of the Romulan NPC characters stationed around the Dyson Joint Command map, they should be something like the Klingon ones, with an open space between the pad and the uniform. The current ones seem to be completely solid, which ends up looking really stupid with most uniform, as the metal parts of the shoulder pads don't really match up with any other uniform color, except maybe the Klingon Variants.
Also, can we get the option to remove the capes? Some of the pads look cool, but I hate having the giant bundle of cloth on my back all the time.
You do know those are the Republic uniforms, right?
I actually bought the Spire Tailor Voth Peon Uniform for one of my Rommie toons ... The shoulder pads and boots look pretty cool with the "Metallic Tile" outfits ...
Oh, and the belt can be used on Orion Toons, ... And has no "loin cloth" (Just sayin' )
You do know those are the Republic uniforms, right?
Actually, the rank options can be used with most if not all uniform variations. I personally find them to be perfect for the Klingon/Romulan uniforms. That doesn't change the fact that they are modeled different (better, in my opinion) on NPCs seen throughout the game, with a gap between the rank shoulder pad and the uniform, instead of a solid piece of discolored metal.
Is this thread even about the Tal Shi'ar Uniform anymore?
It's kind of become about Romulan uniforms in general, but I have another thread where I outlined specific changes that I'd like to see in the uniform if you'd like to check that one out. As far as I know, it's still pretty much on topic.
I would pay for new uniforms for Romulans!!! I also agree the Tal'Shiar needs all its parts available even the capes and to be able to use faction specific costumes like then KDF/SF fleet Station uniforms. :cool:
Keeping this theard from going necro; Tal Shi'ar uniform for the win!
Thanks! I really hope it gets enough note among Cryptic to consider adding the FULL range of Tal Shiar uniforms, with no gender restrictions and the like.
Well If anyone didn't catch it, I did post the color values for the Centurion & Uhlan uniforms. We still can't get the full uniform, but at least we'll be able to have the right colors:
Tal Shiar Uniforms:
Tal Shiar Uhlan:
Upper: Romulan Tal Shiar: I10, I8, I1, I10
Belt: Romulan Tal Shiar Liutennant (No Uhlan version for players, sadly, no male version at all): H1, H1, H1, H9
Lower: Romulan Tal Shiar: I5, H5, I1
Feet: Romulan Tal Shiar: P23, P23, P24, P18
Tal Shiar Centurion: Same as above, with different colors:
Put succinctly, it's pure laziness, nothing more, on the part of the Dev Team and/or Costume Designer/Creators ...
I've been around Computer games for way more years than I care to count, and have been modding those games since it became a "thing".
I'm not a professional, but I've created enough mods to know that 70% of the issues with the clothing in STO is the creators a just to bone idle to weight bones properly to stop clipping, so they either remove parts or just don't allow parts to be combined ...
Another 20% is that they couldn't be bothered making simple adjustments to asset list files to set the parameters for players to be able to wear the armor/clothing or the colour options. ...
And finally 9.9% Is just a lack of interest in creating any new assets, unless they think they can make a large amount of cash out of it ...
So we have approximately 0.1% is caused by actual, real, and difficult to fix issues and incompatibilities.
Also speaking on Romulan uniforms, I bought the 24th century uniform package and it doesn't matter what color palate I use, and I used the recommended settings in that thread, but you just can't make that uniform look quite right as it did in the series.
Just doesn't quite hit it. You'd think out of the gate it would look as it should, but Noooooo.
Along with the tal shiar uniforms not looking up to snuff.
Just add it to the pile of "if it isn't a fed uniform, PWE doesn't give two craps."
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Put succinctly, it's pure laziness, nothing more, on the part of the Dev Team and/or Costume Designer/Creators ...
I've been around Computer games for way more years than I care to count, and have been modding those games since it became a "thing".
I'm not a professional, but I've created enough mods to know that 70% of the issues with the clothing in STO is the creators a just to bone idle to weight bones properly to stop clipping, so they either remove parts or just don't allow parts to be combined ...
Another 20% is that they couldn't be bothered making simple adjustments to asset list files to set the parameters for players to be able to wear the armor/clothing or the colour options. ...
And finally 9.9% Is just a lack of interest in creating any new assets, unless they think they can make a large amount of cash out of it ...
So we have approximately 0.1% is caused by actual, real, and difficult to fix issues and incompatibilities.
Thank you Cryptic.
It's not even as complicated as messing with meshes or bone weights to prevent clipping. If you look at the Tal Shiar belt for females, and compare it to a tal shiar npc, they both have the exact same clipping issue in the back-cryptic didn't change a darn thing, and of course there's the issue that they didn't include the Uhlan version of the belt, which is basically just a simplified version of the same belt, which would have even fewer issues.
Thanks for the palette, catoblepasbeta. Do you know layouts for high ranked officers as well?
I'm working on it...slowly. I set up a foundry mission that starts next to the ESD tailor that lets me run back and forth and through the aid of screenshots, compare and contrast until I get it right. I'll probably have another one or two ready tomorrow.
Also speaking on Romulan uniforms, I bought the 24th century uniform package and it doesn't matter what color palate I use, and I used the recommended settings in that thread, but you just can't make that uniform look quite right as it did in the series.
Just doesn't quite hit it. You'd think out of the gate it would look as it should, but Noooooo.
Along with the tal shiar uniforms not looking up to snuff.
Just add it to the pile of "if it isn't a fed uniform, PWE doesn't give two craps."
Yeah, the 24th century uniforms are a bit of a disappointment. the Camo one's checker grid pattern is far too subtle to be distinguished, and ends up making it look like a muddy mess, and the checker pattern doesn't look very much like the uniform Sela wore at all-the pattern had reflective cloth, which is absent in the uniform (and which wouldn't have been too hard to implement) The reflective tile uniform is the best, but then again-that was probably the rarest uniform of them all. A real shame, IMO-but we just have to make do with 'sorta like the ones on the show'.
There's also a weird issue where characters forearms will bend at bizarre (and painful looking) angles when wearing the TNG uniform, like they have a second set of elbows in the middle of their forearms.
Also of note, despite the uniform being advertised as allowing you to make tal shiar uniforms, neither the tal shiar chest gear or the tal shiar tunic material are available-there is no way to outfit your characters in a TNG Tal Shiar uniform.
It's not even as complicated as messing with meshes or bone weights to prevent clipping. If you look at the Tal Shiar belt for females, and compare it to a tal shiar npc, they both have the exact same clipping issue in the back-cryptic didn't change a darn thing, and of course there's the issue that they didn't include the Uhlan version of the belt, which is basically just a simplified version of the same belt, which would have even fewer issues.
I doubt there is a logical explanation about Tal Shiar uniforms, I think Cryptic simply don't want to make them available. Current uniforms and IRV ship prefix is all we can have I think. I would like to have gauntlets and boots, they don't have clipping issues for sure. Also, I have watched romulan captain npc, haven't seen any clipping.
Yes, pls, add those palettes when you can.
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I just want, for my female character, the Tal Shiar chest gear and Tal Shiar specific drapery added to the Tal Shiar costume.
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Fleets: Tal'Diann, Imperial Romulan Fleet, Axanar Marines, LGBT of Starfleet, House of Ta'al
I doubt there is a logical explanation about Tal Shiar uniforms, I think Cryptic simply don't want to make them available. Current uniforms and IRV ship prefix is all we can have I think. I would like to have gauntlets and boots, they don't have clipping issues for sure. Also, I have watched romulan captain npc, haven't seen any clipping.
I doubt there is a logical explanation about Tal Shiar uniforms, I think Cryptic simply don't want to make them available. Current uniforms and IRV ship prefix is all we can have I think. I would like to have gauntlets and boots, they don't have clipping issues for sure. Also, I have watched romulan captain npc, haven't seen any clipping.
Yes, pls, add those palettes when you can.
My thoughts exactly. The amount of effort it would take to include the missing Tal Shiar uniform pieces would be trivial. Likewise, the use of the IRW prefix is pretty heavily restricted. my personal suspicion is that the prefix and uniform were thrown in at the last minute to placate folks who were upset over not being able to play as the RSE-and it shows. the whole implementation of the Tal Shiar uniform and the IRW prefix is pretty slipshod and incomplete.
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Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
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Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
One can only hope. Time for the Tal Shiar to give up their uniforms!
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Name: Meaghan
Fleets: Tal'Diann, Imperial Romulan Fleet, Axanar Marines, LGBT of Starfleet, House of Ta'al
Characters: Dhivael i'Ratleihfi t'Kamemor (Rom-KDF), Empress Sela(Rom-Fed), V'alkris Morath(Fed), Kara Thrace(Fed), Jaeih Piccolo(Rom-Fed), Ellaria(KDF), Zylim Dukat(Fed)
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
Name: Meaghan
Fleets: Tal'Diann, Imperial Romulan Fleet, Axanar Marines, LGBT of Starfleet, House of Ta'al
Characters: Dhivael i'Ratleihfi t'Kamemor (Rom-KDF), Empress Sela(Rom-Fed), V'alkris Morath(Fed), Kara Thrace(Fed), Jaeih Piccolo(Rom-Fed), Ellaria(KDF), Zylim Dukat(Fed)
Also, can we get the option to remove the capes? Some of the pads look cool, but I hate having the giant bundle of cloth on my back all the time.
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
Oh, and the belt can be used on Orion Toons, ... And has no "loin cloth" (Just sayin'
Actually, the rank options can be used with most if not all uniform variations. I personally find them to be perfect for the Klingon/Romulan uniforms. That doesn't change the fact that they are modeled different (better, in my opinion) on NPCs seen throughout the game, with a gap between the rank shoulder pad and the uniform, instead of a solid piece of discolored metal.
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
It's kind of become about Romulan uniforms in general, but I have another thread where I outlined specific changes that I'd like to see in the uniform if you'd like to check that one out. As far as I know, it's still pretty much on topic.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=904691
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
Thanks! I really hope it gets enough note among Cryptic to consider adding the FULL range of Tal Shiar uniforms, with no gender restrictions and the like.
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
Tal Shiar Uniforms:
Tal Shiar Uhlan:
Upper: Romulan Tal Shiar: I10, I8, I1, I10
Belt: Romulan Tal Shiar Liutennant (No Uhlan version for players, sadly, no male version at all): H1, H1, H1, H9
Lower: Romulan Tal Shiar: I5, H5, I1
Feet: Romulan Tal Shiar: P23, P23, P24, P18
Tal Shiar Centurion: Same as above, with different colors:
Upper: I4, H14, H14, H14
Chest Gear (males only): P5, P5, P5, O2
Belt: I5, I5, I5, B5
Lower: H1, H12, I1
Feet: P23, P23, P24, P18
I've been around Computer games for way more years than I care to count, and have been modding those games since it became a "thing".
I'm not a professional, but I've created enough mods to know that 70% of the issues with the clothing in STO is the creators a just to bone idle to weight bones properly to stop clipping, so they either remove parts or just don't allow parts to be combined ...
Another 20% is that they couldn't be bothered making simple adjustments to asset list files to set the parameters for players to be able to wear the armor/clothing or the colour options. ...
And finally 9.9% Is just a lack of interest in creating any new assets, unless they think they can make a large amount of cash out of it ...
So we have approximately 0.1% is caused by actual, real, and difficult to fix issues and incompatibilities.
Thank you Cryptic.
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Just doesn't quite hit it. You'd think out of the gate it would look as it should, but Noooooo.
Along with the tal shiar uniforms not looking up to snuff.
Just add it to the pile of "if it isn't a fed uniform, PWE doesn't give two craps."
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It's not even as complicated as messing with meshes or bone weights to prevent clipping. If you look at the Tal Shiar belt for females, and compare it to a tal shiar npc, they both have the exact same clipping issue in the back-cryptic didn't change a darn thing, and of course there's the issue that they didn't include the Uhlan version of the belt, which is basically just a simplified version of the same belt, which would have even fewer issues.
I'm working on it...slowly. I set up a foundry mission that starts next to the ESD tailor that lets me run back and forth and through the aid of screenshots, compare and contrast until I get it right. I'll probably have another one or two ready tomorrow.
Yeah, the 24th century uniforms are a bit of a disappointment. the Camo one's checker grid pattern is far too subtle to be distinguished, and ends up making it look like a muddy mess, and the checker pattern doesn't look very much like the uniform Sela wore at all-the pattern had reflective cloth, which is absent in the uniform (and which wouldn't have been too hard to implement) The reflective tile uniform is the best, but then again-that was probably the rarest uniform of them all. A real shame, IMO-but we just have to make do with 'sorta like the ones on the show'.
There's also a weird issue where characters forearms will bend at bizarre (and painful looking) angles when wearing the TNG uniform, like they have a second set of elbows in the middle of their forearms.
Also of note, despite the uniform being advertised as allowing you to make tal shiar uniforms, neither the tal shiar chest gear or the tal shiar tunic material are available-there is no way to outfit your characters in a TNG Tal Shiar uniform.
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
I doubt there is a logical explanation about Tal Shiar uniforms, I think Cryptic simply don't want to make them available. Current uniforms and IRV ship prefix is all we can have I think. I would like to have gauntlets and boots, they don't have clipping issues for sure. Also, I have watched romulan captain npc, haven't seen any clipping.
Yes, pls, add those palettes when you can.
[Combat (Self)] You lose 6549 (7572) Cold from the torment of the underworld.
In-game handle @Janetza
Christian Bale Batman Voice: WHERE'S SELA'S OUTFIT?!
Name: Meaghan
Fleets: Tal'Diann, Imperial Romulan Fleet, Axanar Marines, LGBT of Starfleet, House of Ta'al
Characters: Dhivael i'Ratleihfi t'Kamemor (Rom-KDF), Empress Sela(Rom-Fed), V'alkris Morath(Fed), Kara Thrace(Fed), Jaeih Piccolo(Rom-Fed), Ellaria(KDF), Zylim Dukat(Fed)
Yep that's pretty much the reason.
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My thoughts exactly. The amount of effort it would take to include the missing Tal Shiar uniform pieces would be trivial. Likewise, the use of the IRW prefix is pretty heavily restricted. my personal suspicion is that the prefix and uniform were thrown in at the last minute to placate folks who were upset over not being able to play as the RSE-and it shows. the whole implementation of the Tal Shiar uniform and the IRW prefix is pretty slipshod and incomplete.