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  • megatronis1megatronis1 Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    My thoughts exactly. The amount of effort it would take to include the missing Tal Shiar uniform pieces would be trivial. Likewise, the use of the IRW prefix is pretty heavily restricted. my personal suspicion is that the prefix and uniform were thrown in at the last minute to placate folks who were upset over not being able to play as the RSE-and it shows. the whole implementation of the Tal Shiar uniform and the IRW prefix is pretty slipshod and incomplete.


    I think that sums it up.
  • odstparker#7820 odstparker Member Posts: 466 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    There is.

    Those are rank specific uniforms when performing infiltration, Troi also posed as a Tal Shiar Major once and your identity as a Tal Shiar was linked to a specific rank.

    You never rose above it because you got caught and I dont think you can pass as a Tal Shiar Colonel since anything higher that Subcommander would be too higher rank.

    At no point this is a "reward" because you decided to "switch sides", this is how some people want to treat it but thats not Cryptic intent.

    Plus I rather have the actual canon uniforms instead of this, that reminds me that the Tal Shiar only had 2 known ranks ... Major and Colonel that are certain not the same as Romulan Military ranks.

    I understand the logic when you play through the missions involving the Tal Shiar infiltration, but that's not the reason we want the uniform. We just like the FULL Tal Shiar uniforms, and would like the ability to wear them anytime we want.

    The Federation gets the Mirror Universe uniforms, and they're not at all relevant to any plot, nor are the Bajoran uniforms, or the TOS uniforms. We just have them because it's cool to wear them, not because they're part of the story.

    I personally wear my Enterprise (close enough to the MACO) uniforms because I like how they look, and I wear the Korath uniform on my KDF character.
  • mosquito214mosquito214 Member Posts: 138 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Well If anyone didn't catch it, I did post the color values for the Centurion & Uhlan uniforms. We still can't get the full uniform, but at least we'll be able to have the right colors:

    Do you happen to know the KDF color equivalents? KDF-Romulans are stuck with the limited Klingon palette. Also, I'm guessing Tal Shiar don't have division colors anywhere?
  • catoblepasbetacatoblepasbeta Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Do you happen to know the KDF color equivalents? KDF-Romulans are stuck with the limited Klingon palette. Also, I'm guessing Tal Shiar don't have division colors anywhere?

    No division colors, although there are two color variants for sublieutenants.

    I'm not sure about KDF Rom colors. Unfortunately I don't have a KDF Rom yet to test out color schemes on.
  • jmaster29jmaster29 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I completely agree. MORE TAL SHIAR UNIFORMS!!!
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  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    With Republic Day here and now, I wish some of the crew did not wear brown paper bags for uniforms. I wore a Romulan TNG variant, but I would've felt much more posh in a Tal Shi'ar Uniform.

    Please update it. :o
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    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • janetza#4790 janetza Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Actually, the true centurion uniform includes hand gauntlets and decorated boots. (belt for males as well) Boots which we have are for uhlans.
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  • janetza#4790 janetza Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    There are no clipping issues. The only things which has clipping is the belt, barely visible.
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  • vengefuldjinnvengefuldjinn Member Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    IT'S ALIVE ! IT'S ALIVE !

    ZOMBIE thread !!!!!!
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  • odstparker#7820 odstparker Member Posts: 466 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    IT'S ALIVE ! IT'S ALIVE !

    ZOMBIE thread !!!!!!

    It's still a thing as long as we make sure it's a thing!
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    enoemg wrote: »
    It's still a thing as long as we make sure it's a thing!

    Push it forward! Because it is still a thing.

    Please, update the uniform.
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • kwiat007kwiat007 Member Posts: 144 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    + more Tal Shiar uniform options
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  • senatorvreenaksenatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    For the time being I would settle for female Romulans having access to all the clothing parts that male Romulans have. :(
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    For the time being I would settle for female Romulans having access to all the clothing parts that male Romulans have. :(

    Isn't just the belt, usually for those of a lower rank?

    Either way, the full Uniform is already on both RSE and RR NPCs, so I really don't see what the holdup is, unless some dev wants to chime in or something.

    For the Empire!
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • megatronis1megatronis1 Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    This needs to get fixed soon. There's no real reason why it can't or shouldn't be added.
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Leading the charge!

    Please update the Romulan Tal'Shiar Uniform.
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • astro2244astro2244 Member Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    bltrrn wrote: »
    Leading the charge!

    Please update the Romulan Tal'Shiar Uniform.



    Lets keep this moving forward!
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  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    bltrrn wrote: »
    Leading the charge!

    Please update the Romulan Tal'Shiar Uniform.

    For the Empire! :cool:
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • umiharayuuumiharayuu Member Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I love how they call it the Tal'Shiar uniform but it lacks the Tal'Shiar logo.
    Instead they use the RSE logo which is not a symbol of the Tal'Shiar.
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  • catoblepasbetacatoblepasbeta Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    umiharayuu wrote: »
    I love how they call it the Tal'Shiar uniform but it lacks the Tal'Shiar logo.
    Instead they use the RSE logo which is not a symbol of the Tal'Shiar.
    That's because it was the RSE uniform until Legacy of Romulus, when the entire RSE armed forces was retconned into being Tal Shiar. You can take a walk on New Romulus and see patrols of Republic 'Tal Shiar' all over the place. Back then New Romulus was one of the emergent factions originating after Sela's disappearance-which still shows in a bunch of dialogue. So it made sense for them to have a lot of RSE military personnel. The ship in the Azure Nebula rescue missions even used to have an IRW prefix.
  • umiharayuuumiharayuu Member Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    That's because it was the RSE uniform until Legacy of Romulus, when the entire RSE armed forces was retconned into being Tal Shiar. You can take a walk on New Romulus and see patrols of Republic 'Tal Shiar' all over the place. Back then New Romulus was one of the emergent factions originating after Sela's disappearance-which still shows in a bunch of dialogue. So it made sense for them to have a lot of RSE military personnel. The ship in the Azure Nebula rescue missions even used to have an IRW prefix.

    That still doesn't make the usage correct.
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  • catoblepasbetacatoblepasbeta Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    umiharayuu wrote: »
    That still doesn't make the usage correct.
    No, it doesn't. Tal Shiar and RSE should have their own separate uniforms IMO, but that ship sailed with LoR.
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Either way, the usage of the uniform by the Romulan Republic, no matter in what context, is reason enough to update the Uniform for all Romulans.

    Please update the Romuan Star Empire/Tal'Shiar Uniform.
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Keeping it up. >: )
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

    https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    For the Empire!
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

    https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
  • spiritmuse1spiritmuse1 Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    It's annoying that I can't even use the same parts on male and female characters. And yes, vote for more Tal Shiar uniform pieces, I want the cape, too.
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Indeed. Me must press on for this. Capes and Pads and Belts, and all that stuff.
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

    https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Oh no, if this happens, I'd have to see other players in those ridiculous capes... Nearly as bad as the Republic pauldrons...

    Ah, still worth it.
  • odstparker#7820 odstparker Member Posts: 466 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Oh no, if this happens, I'd have to see other players in those ridiculous capes... Nearly as bad as the Republic pauldrons...

    Ah, still worth it.

    I'm not a fan of the Romulan Republic shoulder pauldrons or capes either, but the ones from the Tal Shiar are (arguably) a better design. The RR pauldrons, which are still glitched as one big metallic piece instead of being a plate with open space between them and the shoulder, hold the cape too high above the shoulders, and leave a big open space between them. The neck area then appears really odd with giant pads hanging above the shoulders, especially with a big piece of cloth hanging below them.

    The Tal Shiar capes are attached to one piece that fits around the neck and shoulders much better, and the capes then hang from the shoulders instead of from above them. I'll admit, I'm not a fan of Sela's classic cape, but something like Hakeev's split capes looks really good to my eye, especially when combined with the gauntlets, boots, chest, belt, and leg accessories that share that design. I love the Tal Shiar uniform designs. I like the RR designs too, just not the shoulders and capes, not the way they are now.
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