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Red Matter Capacitor

init0init0 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
edited May 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Hi all

I've been playing STO a bit again and every time I come back to the game I realize that I'm missing the Red Matter Capacitor because I didn't buy the collectors edition back when it was still readily available. It's really putting me off because I'm a min/maxer at heart and simply can't stand not having access to this module.

Currently the collectors edition is only available from Amazon for insane prices (like $80 or more) which I'm simply not willing to pay for the RMC (since all the other items are worthless to me).

So is there any way to get my hands on the RMC at this point in time?

I'd be willing to pay $10-20 for this item in a heartbeat but for some strange reason PW/Cryptic doesn't seem to want my money?

How about offering an account upgrade from regular edition to collectors edition for $20-30?

Anything? Anyone?

If there really is no way to get this item (without buying a physical collectors edition for a sick price) then is there at least some kind of alternative available in-game (or on the C-store) that comes close to the RMC?

Thanks in advance.

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    sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    If you really want the RMC, then buy the Collectors Edition. There must be cheaper copies somewhere...
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    bones1970bones1970 Member Posts: 953 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I hope they will give it to us sometime in the future.
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    gonaliusgonalius Member Posts: 893 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    They could make a console version of it and stick it in a new C-Store ship for 2,500 zen... Heh.
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    mercuriciodidemercuriciodide Member Posts: 342
    edited February 2014
    bones1970 wrote: »
    I hope they will give it to us sometime in the future.
    That wouldn't be particularly fair to those who spent the extra money to get the collector's edition. I don't like the gouging now that it's out of print, but one has to consider the extra cost people paid for it versus the regular edition.

    The entire point behind calling something collectible is that it is collectible -- not something that people will be able to get later in some other way.

    There is a reason why a Black Lotus is worth a lot of money -- because it wasn't reprinted in later editions (just appearing in the first three).
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    nobletnoblet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Many of the worthless battery type cstore consoles that's basically half a red matter capacitor should be changed to fit in battery slot. That's what they are, reusable batteries, just like red matter capacitors.
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    init0init0 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I looked around and all I could find were either scams (supposedly selling collectors edition cd-keys etc.) or the boxed version on Amazon which is $80.

    On all other game sites the article may be listed but is "unavailable" or "not in stock" etc.

    I found a single site in Germany that's selling the "gold edition" but even that is 39?... and I'm not really sure if the "gold edition" is the same thing as the collectors edition. Anyone know?

    Or anyone know of any online store that is still selling the collectors edition for a less insane price?

    It's so frustrating because it would be really easy for Cryptic to simply sell account upgrades (or at least sell the full collectors edition as digital download on their site or something).

    Anyway, any help is greatly appreciated!

    Edit:
    noblet wrote: »
    Many of the worthless battery type cstore consoles that's basically half a red matter capacitor should be changed to fit in battery slot. That's what they are, reusable batteries, just like red matter capacitors.

    I can understand that and have no issue with things being exclusive or limited. However, the only thing I give a damn about is the RMC... and it's not like that is an actual item that anyone is going to collect (since it's only a virtual object and you can hardly display it in your collection of other star trek items etc.).

    Also, I'd be gladly willing to pay a fair amount of cash for the RMC - but even I am not quite crazy enough to pay $80 just for that...
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    mercuriciodidemercuriciodide Member Posts: 342
    edited February 2014
    init0 wrote: »
    it would be really easy for Cryptic to simply sell account upgrades (or at least sell the full collectors edition as digital download on their site or something).
    It wouldn't be collectible if it were reprinted. The entire point is that it was a one-off, a limited number of copies. That's what makes things collectible.
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    novice101novice101 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I got the "red matter capacitor" when I bought the gold edition.
    But that was about a year ago, so maybe it doesn't work anymore.
    I got it on sale so the cost was about the same as a game time card, which I was using at the time for subscribtion.
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    init0init0 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    mercuriciodide wrote: »
    It wouldn't be collectible if it were reprinted. The entire point is that it was a one-off, a limited number of copies. That's what makes things collectible.

    That's fine by me since I don't actually want the collectors edition. All I want is the RMC so I'm not at a disadvantage in-game...

    Imagine if WOW had sold a collectors edition at release which gave you access to an end-game item that is better then anything you can get in-game... it's simply idiotic and basically puts me off the game (which means that Cryptic is losing money because I'm hardly going to go and spend a lot of money on a game that I can never be "best" at because of some moronic exclusive item).
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    init0init0 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Thanks to everyone for the effort...
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    erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You don't need the collector edition for the RMC. The "gold" edition is enough.
    If you are European, it's as low as 9? in France (unfortunately, they don't seems to send it elsewhere in Europe). In UK it's ?35, which is a lot more expensive. You might want to check on the spanish and german amazon. Or check on google/ebay (make sure it's not a used game in this case).
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    this1isavailablethis1isavailable Member Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You dont need a RMC for min/maxing. Batteries are generally better unless you cant have 3 of your power levels at max but in this case you are not a min/maxer :D (fawmitard build)
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    rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    RMC isn't necessary for a min/maxer. If you're running EPT, A2Bat, or plasmonic, or any combination thereof, you're doing better than the RMC can help you with.

    It's nice as a device because -- let's face it -- devices as a whole rather suck for starships. However, being "best of the worst" doesn't really mean it's all that great. IMO Subspace Field Modulator is far more important than RMC.
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    robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Rmc is a nice ability if your an eng. It is like a second eps ability.
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    tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    i think its pretty admirable that cryptic havent caved and made this available. its a reward for being an early adopter. you cant always get everything you want.
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    wolverine595959wolverine595959 Member Posts: 726
    edited February 2014
    rodentmaster wrote: »
    RMC isn't necessary for a min/maxer. If you're running EPT, A2Bat, or plasmonic, or any combination thereof, you're doing better than the RMC can help you with.

    It's nice as a device because -- let's face it -- devices as a whole rather suck for starships. However, being "best of the worst" doesn't really mean it's all that great. IMO Subspace Field Modulator is far more important than RMC.


    RMC for what it does is probably the only device that gets slotted in every ship. Yes all those skills do it better but you are wasting skills and skill tree points to take advantage of those skills. RMC only benefits from battery skill. In my escorts I use as an emergency Aux 2 Battery power. With some of the AMP passives I can get the 4 system damage bonus. The only thing in the game that can come close that is just as cheap is the warp core doff that can add bonus power to you system on the use of Emergency Powers. SFM is -400 resistance to Proton weapons if you PvP it will actually get you killed.
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    tinkerstormtinkerstorm Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    init0 wrote: »
    Hi all

    I've been playing STO a bit again and every time I come back to the game I realize that I'm missing the Red Matter Capacitor because I didn't buy the collectors edition back when it was still readily available. It's really putting me off because I'm a min/maxer at heart and simply can't stand not having access to this module.

    Currently the collectors edition is only available from Amazon for insane prices (like $80 or more) which I'm simply not willing to pay for the RMC (since all the other items are worthless to me).
    How is $80 insane? Do you happen to have any clue how much it cost at retail in 2010?
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    empireofsteveempireofsteve Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    If you are in Canada, find an EB games. Anyone will do that sells them. They sell them for 0.99. Have them ship it to a store near you.

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    empireofsteveempireofsteve Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Here you go.



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    teknesiateknesia Member Posts: 860 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    init0 wrote: »
    Currently the collectors edition is only available from Amazon for insane prices (like $80 or more) which I'm simply not willing to pay for the RMC (since all the other items are worthless to me).


    Lol, that's weird. Four years ago the collectors edition was practically being given away on Amazon. I think I got mine for $8.
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    wolverine595959wolverine595959 Member Posts: 726
    edited February 2014
    teknesia wrote: »
    Lol, that's weird. Four years ago the collectors edition was practically being given away on Amazon. I think I got mine for $8.

    Yeah a year after launch I was able to buy like 3 other pre-order versions to get things I wanted for like $40 total.

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    robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    tinkerstorm wrote: »
    How is $80 insane? Do you happen to have any clue how much it cost at retail in 2010?

    That was when the game was sub only. It was also a 30 day time card. If a person is already a lts then there is significantly less value. The other perks in the collectors edition are not really worth it these days unless it has a pre-order bonus (Amazon pre-order comes to mind). The packaging is not important and while the art book and badge is interesting it is not worth $80.

    The only lasting part of this collector's edition is the rmc.

    The reason why red matter is good is on non aux2bat builds it is easier to get the amp bonus. on Aux2bat build it can still give aux power if your Aux battery is on cooldown and give extra power to your overcap at the same time.

    One thing I do know is that once you get the rmc you never go back and it then goes on all your builds.
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    lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,825 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    teknesia wrote: »
    Lol, that's weird. Four years ago the collectors edition was practically being given away on Amazon. I think I got mine for $8.

    Yeah, I bought mine like a few months before the game went f2p for $10 I think.
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    kenshinukkenshinuk Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Got mine sometime last year for 8 quid on ebay! :D
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    tinkerstormtinkerstorm Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    robdmc wrote: »
    That was when the game was sub only. It was also a 30 day time card. If a person is already a lts then there is significantly less value. The other perks in the collectors edition are not really worth it these days unless it has a pre-order bonus (Amazon pre-order comes to mind). The packaging is not important and while the art book and badge is interesting it is not worth $80.

    The only lasting part of this collector's edition is the rmc.

    The reason why red matter is good is on non aux2bat builds it is easier to get the amp bonus. on Aux2bat build it can still give aux power if your Aux battery is on cooldown and give extra power to your overcap at the same time.

    One thing I do know is that once you get the rmc you never go back and it then goes on all your builds.
    All of that is irrelevant. The Collector's Edition is no longer in production. Supply and demand determines what the price is going to be. Cryptic is not setting the price for those old CEs. Meanwhile, PWE hates the red matter capacitor, so why would they want to give away more of them?
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    wolverine595959wolverine595959 Member Posts: 726
    edited February 2014
    tinkerstorm wrote: »
    All of that is irrelevant. The Collector's Edition is no longer in production. Supply and demand determines what the price is going to be. Cryptic is not setting the price for those old CEs. Meanwhile, PWE hates the red matter capacitor, so why would they want to give away more of them?


    Why do they hate the RMC?
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    quintarisquintaris Member Posts: 816 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I don't believe they're allowed to rerelease it because it's from the first JJTrek film. Being a rare collector's only item was the only way to actually have it in the game.
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