No, it comes from the fact that if they didn't put a unique bridge, people complain, and now apparently if they DO include one they do as well. They have already said the ability to use your own bridges is coming in a future patch, if you had read the dev posts in this thread you'd know that.
Hmm. A unique bridge for all factions really?
My message stated a unique hybrid bridge for each faction INDIVIDUALLY.
It stops people about not having a unique bridge and it makes each faction having a authentic bridge. Keeping all players happy.
My message stated a unique hybrid bridge for each faction INDIVIDUALLY.
It stops people about not having a unique bridge and it makes each faction having a authentic bridge. Keeping all players happy.
I don't think Cryptic thought of that idea.
They probably thought of the man hours it takes to make a bridge that is visited by a small fraction of total players, on a ship that makes no money and decided that one was going to have to do. Art is expensive, even when they recycle parts like they did here. They make zero money on bridges, and the only reason they probably even bothered here is because of the cutscenes that take place there. If the had done more than one, they would have had to render the cutscene more than once as well (more money).
People seem to think that this stuff just magically appears. It doesn't. Taco and the rest of the interior artists spend time on them, and time spent on bridges is time they are not spending on other things like maps for missions. So it comes down to what people are going to want the most - maps for actual missions, or bridges that are basically throw-away content used by a few RPers. Bottom line is, be grateful that this is not the Vesta.
They probably thought of the man hours it takes to make a bridge that is visited by a small fraction of total players, on a ship that makes no money and decided that one was going to have to do. Art is expensive, even when they recycle parts like they did here. They make zero money on bridges, and the only reason they probably even bothered here is because of the cutscenes that take place there. If the had done more than one, they would have had to render the cutscene more than once as well (more money).
People seem to think that this stuff just magically appears. It doesn't. Taco and the rest of the interior artists spend time on them, and time spent on bridges is time they are not spending on other things like maps for missions. So it comes down to what people are going to want the most - maps for actual missions, or bridges that are basically throw-away content used by a few RPers. Bottom line is, be grateful that this is not the Vesta.
Honestly, you have a point.
I do computer 3d modelling. I know some of the man hours needed to make a bridge in 3D and honestly if you make one bridge using template parts, you can make 3 bridges. I would be bold to say I can make a bridge. If I am one person, Cryptic has a development team.
They used bridge templates and parts for the Obedisk, these ships, and dozens of cut scenes. They also have templates and parts for all other bridges they made.
So, its not terrible hard, to change textures, maybe add some lighting, change a few displays.
Star Trek Online when i do the ?A Step Between Stars.? the liast part is to play with Dyson Science Destroyer and i see is equip with 3 universal console and every one ot them give the ability. I what to ask when we done with 2014 Anniversary Event Reputation Project and get the Dyson Science Destroyer will equip with this 3 console or not?
Star Trek Online when i do the ?A Step Between Stars.? the liast part is to play with Dyson Science Destroyer and i see is equip with 3 universal console and every one ot them give the ability. I what to ask when we done with 2014 Anniversary Event Reputation Project and get the Dyson Science Destroyer will equip with this 3 console or not?
Now that I've seen those ships in action I must say the "fused" Proton DHC really makes the Tactical mode kind of pointless for many builds...
Cmdr. boff skill switching aside, players basically trade off subsystem targeting and sensor analysis available in Science mode for a bit more maneuverability and a 4th fore weapon which of all things deals proton damage...
And not only there's only one other proton weapon in the game, but also increasing proton damage without sacrificing all other weapon potential is difficult, not to say impossible... This is especially the case if you don't want to utilize any of the set bonuses that increase proton damage.
As a result, a mere Dual Beam Bank has bigger DPS potential than this DHC with full Advanced and Hybrid Technologies set... Honestly, in my opinion it's more of a shiny gimmick than anything useful.
I really hope the C-Store variants will not share this problem. Allow players to put any weapon they want in that extra slot so that they can experiment with more build potentials, while making the tactical mode more in line with what actual destroyers are capable of.
I do computer 3d modelling. I know some of the man hours needed to make a bridge in 3D and honestly if you make one bridge using template parts, you can make 3 bridges. I would be bold to say I can make a bridge. If I am one person, Cryptic has a development team.
They used bridge templates and parts for the Obedisk, these ships, and dozens of cut scenes. They also have templates and parts for all other bridges they made.
So, its not terrible hard, to change textures, maybe add some lighting, change a few displays.
Hell take a Vesta bridge and re-work it some.
Your argument is very invalid.
Thank you. Finally a 3D artist from outside of Cryptic...
I was just wondering if this Dyson Science Destroyer will be able to be purchased on the exchange or mailed to another character on the same account. The reason I'm asking this is because my science officer is a Lt. Cmdr. The only lever 50 Character that I have is a Tactical Officer and I don't know if it will be able to utilize this ship to it's full extent.
Now that I've seen those ships in action I must say the "fused" Proton DHC really makes the Tactical mode kind of pointless for many builds...
Cmdr. boff skill switching aside, players basically trade off subsystem targeting and sensor analysis available in Science mode for a bit more maneuverability and a 4th fore weapon which of all things deals proton damage...
And not only there's only one other proton weapon in the game, but also increasing proton damage without sacrificing all other weapon potential is difficult, not to say impossible... This is especially the case if you don't want to utilize any of the set bonuses that increase proton damage.
As a result, a mere Dual Beam Bank has bigger DPS potential than this DHC with full Advanced and Hybrid Technologies set... Honestly, in my opinion it's more of a shiny gimmick than anything useful.
I really hope the C-Store variants will not share this problem. Allow players to put any weapon they want in that extra slot so that they can experiment with more build potentials, while making the tactical mode more in line with what actual destroyers are capable of.
This seems a valid, reasoned criticism. How is the tactical mode any better than the science ship mode? If it isn't better, just 'different', then how is it justified that the science ship is so... 'very average' (at best), for a science ship?
Please reconsider ARC. Please make it optional, at the least. PLEASE.
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
im one of the few to use lobi to get the dyson ship early and im really enjoying having a real sci ship for my kdf cat thanks for making a ship ive been asking for.
cash burning a hole in my pocket waiting for the zen store kdf ship
I was just wondering if this Dyson Science Destroyer will be able to be purchased on the exchange or mailed to another character on the same account. The reason I'm asking this is because my science officer is a Lt. Cmdr. The only lever 50 Character that I have is a Tactical Officer and I don't know if it will be able to utilize this ship to it's full extent.
I just got my SSD yesterday and it's still boxed up. At this point yes I can sell it or use my account bank to give it to one of my alts. Once you open it, it is character bound.
Edit: Oops. I looked again and it says Bound To Character in blue. However the description says "This ship is currently packed and can be traded in this state. Once unpacked it will be bound to the character that opens it and can no longer be traded." I wish that Cryptic could get their act together!
A question of my own: Does anyone have a build they would like to share? If I have a Defiant, I know to slot cannon consoles and shield and crew healing consoles. But for this particular class it's unprecedented. Do I slot more Engineering consoles? Are the Tac and Sci not as good as a real dedicated escort or science vessel?
People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey ... stuff. --the Doctor, "Blink"
While I love the ships that are coming out lately, I'm a little disappointed at the bridge only interiors that seem to be happening. Maybe people think it's more efficient but for those that enjoy doing more than just blowing things up being able to walk around the interior of your ship is a nice way to immerse yourself more into the game/universe. I'm sure it's easier to develop just a bridge rather than an entire starship interior but I really hope at some point soon you guys get back to making more than just the bridges in these new ships.
Imma try to get all 3.. we will see if I end up just grinding for one.... The romulan one looks great the KDF not bad, the FED though.. ewwwww.
i got 2 off them and there are good i going for number 3 and it not letting me move my crystals form 1 account to my othere man any one know how this can be done
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Hmm. A unique bridge for all factions really?
My message stated a unique hybrid bridge for each faction INDIVIDUALLY.
It stops people about not having a unique bridge and it makes each faction having a authentic bridge. Keeping all players happy.
I don't think Cryptic thought of that idea.
They probably thought of the man hours it takes to make a bridge that is visited by a small fraction of total players, on a ship that makes no money and decided that one was going to have to do. Art is expensive, even when they recycle parts like they did here. They make zero money on bridges, and the only reason they probably even bothered here is because of the cutscenes that take place there. If the had done more than one, they would have had to render the cutscene more than once as well (more money).
People seem to think that this stuff just magically appears. It doesn't. Taco and the rest of the interior artists spend time on them, and time spent on bridges is time they are not spending on other things like maps for missions. So it comes down to what people are going to want the most - maps for actual missions, or bridges that are basically throw-away content used by a few RPers. Bottom line is, be grateful that this is not the Vesta.
Honestly, you have a point.
I do computer 3d modelling. I know some of the man hours needed to make a bridge in 3D and honestly if you make one bridge using template parts, you can make 3 bridges. I would be bold to say I can make a bridge. If I am one person, Cryptic has a development team.
They used bridge templates and parts for the Obedisk, these ships, and dozens of cut scenes. They also have templates and parts for all other bridges they made.
So, its not terrible hard, to change textures, maybe add some lighting, change a few displays.
Hell take a Vesta bridge and re-work it some.
Your argument is very invalid.
The consoles will be on the c-store versions.
Cmdr. boff skill switching aside, players basically trade off subsystem targeting and sensor analysis available in Science mode for a bit more maneuverability and a 4th fore weapon which of all things deals proton damage...
And not only there's only one other proton weapon in the game, but also increasing proton damage without sacrificing all other weapon potential is difficult, not to say impossible... This is especially the case if you don't want to utilize any of the set bonuses that increase proton damage.
As a result, a mere Dual Beam Bank has bigger DPS potential than this DHC with full Advanced and Hybrid Technologies set... Honestly, in my opinion it's more of a shiny gimmick than anything useful.
I really hope the C-Store variants will not share this problem. Allow players to put any weapon they want in that extra slot so that they can experiment with more build potentials, while making the tactical mode more in line with what actual destroyers are capable of.
Thank you. Finally a 3D artist from outside of Cryptic...
This seems a valid, reasoned criticism. How is the tactical mode any better than the science ship mode? If it isn't better, just 'different', then how is it justified that the science ship is so... 'very average' (at best), for a science ship?
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
There will be a C-Store variant (or better 3 variants - ship pack) at Fleet level (->10 console slots with universal consoles)
cash burning a hole in my pocket waiting for the zen store kdf ship
I just got my SSD yesterday and it's still boxed up. At this point yes I can sell it or use my account bank to give it to one of my alts. Once you open it, it is character bound.
Edit: Oops. I looked again and it says Bound To Character in blue. However the description says "This ship is currently packed and can be traded in this state. Once unpacked it will be bound to the character that opens it and can no longer be traded." I wish that Cryptic could get their act together!
A question of my own: Does anyone have a build they would like to share? If I have a Defiant, I know to slot cannon consoles and shield and crew healing consoles. But for this particular class it's unprecedented. Do I slot more Engineering consoles? Are the Tac and Sci not as good as a real dedicated escort or science vessel?
Just my thoughts on it.
i got 2 off them and there are good i going for number 3 and it not letting me move my crystals form 1 account to my othere man any one know how this can be done