Yeah that pretty much sums it up. I sometimes think they forget the content drought and all the bugs and frustrating experiences players went through and still they cared enough to continue to support the game and keep the dev's in a job. They would never had gotten the opportunity to expand their production team much less stay employed without the loyal support of players.
I like anyone else understands they don't have to throw an anniversary event, but seriously promoting these free ships that you have to work for. Then offer c-store versions that aren't equal in abilities and seem the only reason anyone might buy them are for the skin options (and maybe a console or two).
This is a pretty low blow by the people in charge.
But that is just it, they dont really care about the loyal support of the players, because they know the apologists will come out to defend them and enough of the silent majority will be upset but unwilling to take the steps to stop this trend of stronger and stronger handed money-grabs.
The bottomline is that the only way to make real change for the game is to not use the c-store items. Don't even buy them on the exchange, just not use them at all. No fleet modules, no buying the new shiny ships, ect.
The irony being that it requires you to do "nothing", by buying nothing from the store BUT CONTINUING TO PLAY. If enough people went "No, the carrot on the end of the c-store/arc stick you continue to beat me with ain't enough", then for them to continue to make money they would have to change their practices. (I for example would like to see fleet modules vanish and the end of the "Here is some pve grind content, now to get the full effect go and buy from the store. Oh and if you buy from the store but can't grind for 15 days, you are also screwed. Oh buy more lobi, trololol but hey thanks for the "support" kinda bs. But thats just me.)
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But that is just it, they dont really care about the loyal support of the players, because they know the apologists will come out to defend them and enough of the silent majority will be upset but unwilling to take the steps to stop this trend of stronger and stronger handed money-grabs.
The bottomline is that the only way to make real change for the game is to not use the c-store items. Don't even buy them on the exchange, just not use them at all. No fleet modules, no buying the new shiny ships, ect.
The irony being that it requires you to do "nothing", by buying nothing from the store BUT CONTINUING TO PLAY. If enough people went "No, the carrot on the end of the c-store/arc stick you continue to beat me with ain't enough", then for them to continue to make money they would have to change their practices. (I for example would like to see fleet modules vanish and the end of the "Here is some pve grind content, now to get the full effect go and buy from the store. Oh and if you buy from the store but can't grind for 15 days, you are also screwed. Oh buy more lobi, trololol but hey thanks for the "support" kinda bs. But thats just me.)
Or maybe the people who whine on here are the crazy minority, you know like that crazy grandparent you have that everyone just tolerates?
Maybe the majority of the 'silent' playerbase arent bothered at all because they realise its a F2P game and they don't expect to be able to get all the best gear without paying any money which is just ridiculous anyway. No F2P game should ever allow players to get everything for free.
They are giving away so much cool **** in this event i just cant believe the sheer audacity at some people that probably dropped a maximum of 10$ on this game and got 100's if not 1000's of hours of play. Or run 32 characters to purely abuse the dil grinding, but then whine they are unhappy with the amount of rep 'grind'.
This forum is brimming with nieve and hypocritical people.
My only issue witht he event stuff is if the c-store 3 pack ends up being 3 seperate factional packs you have to buy individually, as that is just a pure cash grab. If it is just one account unlock and you claim the appropriate pack from each character then fine.
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All I can say is that DHC ... and with it being proton based at that and non-swappable .... Is the final straw as to why I decided not to go for this ship.
I've got the Vesta line FED-side and Korath-class KDF. ... And in a few months, the Romulan VESTA is supposed to be coming as well.
my thinking is different on the subject, while i complain about a valid issue the DHC and the lack of balance on the fed ship compared to the kdf and rr ships. i will get these ships, one to each faction. the thinking is that i get them when they come out, at some point down the road the anniversary ship may see some improvements or the c-store ships. so if i get em and park em in the garage as cryptic decides on improving these ships. but like any bet, you win or loose, either way you still gained another ship anyways with the choice to throw it away if thats what you want.
a few minutes a day for 15 days. bah, thats nothing, so it wont be a problem to get them anyways.
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Or maybe the people who whine on here are the crazy minority, you know like that crazy grandparent you have that everyone just tolerates?
Maybe the majority of the 'silent' playerbase arent bothered at all because they realise its a F2P game and they don't expect to be able to get all the best gear without paying any money which is just ridiculous anyway. No F2P game should ever allow players to get everything for free.
They are giving away so much cool **** in this event i just cant believe the sheer audacity at some people that probably dropped a maximum of 10$ on this game and got 100's if not 1000's of hours of play. Or run 32 characters to purely abuse the dil grinding, but then whine they are unhappy with the amount of rep 'grind'.
This forum is brimming with nieve and hypocritical people.
My only issue witht he event stuff is if the c-store 3 pack ends up being 3 seperate factional packs you have to buy individually, as that is just a pure cash grab. If it is just one account unlock and you claim the appropriate pack from each character then fine.
So in otherwords, everyone ELSE is whining except for you, cause your problem is totes legit? You are right, your post proves the forum has hypocritical people.
Interestingly enough, show me where I said /everything/ should be free?
Saying "Hey, you shouldn't need fleet modules for fleet ships" is hardly saying "Everything should be free".
Saying "Hey, thank you events should not require buying stuff from the store to get the full effect cause thats not a "thank you" thats a "TRIBBLE you, give me more money" move" is not saying "everything should be free".
But hey, there you are, saying "Hey, I shouldnt have to pay this much for what I want" in relation to the 3-pack, so I guess you want everything for free as well. (Going by your flawed logic)
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First, can we stop the whining and complaining? Don't want the ship or don't like it? Do not do the events period...oH waIt you want the set bonus for rePlaying the FE three times Of CouRse. I underStand whY now.
I for one have the time and energy to burn doing the FE 3 times on 3 toons (My Fed Joined Trill Sci, KDF Sci, and Rom Tac) and 15 days worth of Event Games.
Also, I like the bridge but options to change it would be welcome. Maybe a special Alt Bridge of the Origin for this might of been a better choice.
Third and finally, all these ships are awesome and to complain about the Tac Mode shift...the ships trades it's Sci-bonuses for Escort Bonuses of Speed, Turn Rate, Inertia, and shifting the power bonus from Auxilary to Weapons. If it didn't do this and instead gained all the bonuses of both in Tac Mode...
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...well for those worried about power creep; I would of worried more about power tsunami if that had been the case.
First, can we stop the whining and complaining? Don't want the ship or don't like it? Do not do the events period...oH waIt you want the set bonus for rePlaying the FE three times Of CouRse. I underStand whY now.
I for one have the time and energy to burn doing the FE 3 times on 3 toons (My Fed Joined Trill Sci, KDF Sci, and Rom Tac) and 15 days worth of Event Games.
Also, I like the bridge but options to change it would be welcome. Maybe a special Alt Bridge of the Origin for this might of been a better choice.
Third and finally, all these ships are awesome and to complain about the Tac Mode shift...the ships trades it's Sci-bonuses for Escort Bonuses of Speed, Turn Rate, Inertia, and shifting the power bonus from Auxilary to Weapons. If it didn't do this and instead gained all the bonuses of both in Tac Mode...
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...well for those worried about power creep; I would of worried more about power tsunami if that had been the case.
So how about we all agree to disagree?
I totally agree with everything you said, and I am also excited for the ships and everything to do with them. I will do what is necessary to get the Anniversary version of the ships, and maybe down the road consider getting the C-store versions of the ships. It's not like you have to have both 4-piece sets.
It seems that some of the playerbase can't be happy about anything, so they'll complain about for no other reason but to complain.
Nah obviousy "all the weapon bonuses and none of the losses" would be too much.
I'm not certain the tac mode *makes up* for the losses at the moment however. Sensor Analysis is a pretty solid damage boost against things bigger than a mook, and the shutdown on your science boosts will lower those a bit.
It's no escort though, it's a "destroyer" [I know, the hull's very misleading there]. No +10% defense but no cruiser commands or analysis/subsystem, turn rate 14 even on the romulan ship, not 16+ and certainly no defiant with 17, a moderate amount of inertia [personally I does likes the sliding though; makes for good strafing runs].
The question thus becomes "Is switching, once per encounter, into Tactical after popping everything science that you can, for maybe 20s before switching back to grav wells and e-siphons, an improvement over what you lose?"
I'm sure some folks are crazy enough to have the ship already lobi-bought this afternoon, so I'd like to hear of the results. If good enough, it could be an acceptable intermediate between your free T5 Ha'Feh and an actual fleet/c-store/lobi ship. Not quite as powerful as the real endgame ships, but able to handle itself better than the freebie chit at 40.
If it can't make up for it, it's a better looking ha'nom with lower hull and shields.
I just wanted to point out how strange the bridge is... if anyone built a ship utilizing this technology I dont think they would duplicate the dyson-style interior exactly. I hope I can change the bridge
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well they pretty much have to make 3 different bridges for the 3 factions so that's probably why it looks like that. hoping that they could change that for when the c-store version comes out
um.... the C-store versions are going to be 10 console ships, so techincally better than the "grind" version. the only thing you will lack by just getting the c-store set is the 4 peice set bonuses
Just want to point out this in addition: you know what you will ALSO need in order to get both 4 piece bonus? All eight pieces of the set on the ship. How many people even bother to use all three pieces of the sets we have, because one of said pieces is inferior to other stuff they have? Or even bother to use sets at all? Sure, it's a pisser that if you miss the ships this year you get to wait until next to get them (you did catch in the dev blog where they said they will be back then, right?), but in the end, we are talking about equipment that will most likely be sitting unused by that time anyway by the power player willing to spend the kind of money that you need to in order to get the ship bundles. Once again, this is hurt feelings getting in the way of clear thinking.
well they pretty much have to make 3 different bridges for the 3 factions so that's probably why it looks like that. hoping that they could change that for when the c-store version comes out
Naah. While it might happen, they have not said anything that leads you to believe as much. All they have said is factional bridges will be available, which most likely means the existing faction bridges.
I actually rather like the bridge, but I do agree that it's very... inappropriate to the idea of a hybrid design?
Looks good though.
The Romulan ship looks great and fits the direction they would. The Klingon ship looks great but should have a more industeial feel. The Federation looked second rate to both.
As for the bridge its better suited for a Obedisk alternate layout.
Now the bridgd. Any good bridge design would fit the needs of the race. Federation, Klingon, and Romulans bridge watch chairs with some panel, decent environment lighting, clear identification of faction.
This bridge has none of the above.
If Cryptic was thinking faction specific bridges would be default. Also the option for a faction specific skin at least one. I am willing to bet the inner ship is exactly the same for all factions which is more bs.
well they pretty much have to make 3 different bridges for the 3 factions so that's probably why it looks like that. hoping that they could change that for when the c-store version comes out
They didn't think about or expect people to buy from the the cstore.
If its the latter. I can get the ship to play with. I will just grind for a two weeks and throw Cryptic one dollar for acting like selfish greedy airheads.
First, can we stop the whining and complaining? Don't want the ship or don't like it? Do not do the events period...oH waIt you want the set bonus for rePlaying the FE three times Of CouRse. I underStand whY now.
yup, im not surprised the game is going down month after month, thanks to people like you, that only says good things about everything. Sometimes people would think that you are in the cryptic pockets or something lol. Just joking.
It is not a question of want it or not, this is a star trek game. People who pilot a fed ship want a fed style ship, including the bridges. I dont know how to say this so you can understand. Its probably that u are not a trekkie, or maybe you just playing this game like if it is another mmo like neverwinter or watever. If the only thing you want is a mmo, then, you right, ships can be even invisible, if thats the case. Or you can pilot a space bus, who cares.
So, if cryptic makes a ship that looks like a cigarrette, its ok, because is still star trek (its called uss-cigarrette). I suposse there are 2 communities in this game, those who like star trek and those who like just a mmo.
Once more, I'll reiterate what has been said a couple of times already. We're stuck with the new bridge until they bring in another patch which will allow us to use the faction specific bridges that we already have access to.
I for one will keep the ship as is. I like the look of the bridge.
You can reiterate hearsay forever (and, no, I'm not going to read dozens of pages). Without a link to an official source, I won't believe you.
Naah. While it might happen, they have not said anything that leads you to believe as much. All they have said is factional bridges will be available, which most likely means the existing faction bridges.
Where? Not in the blog post.
Can we use other bridges but the Solanae default or not? It's a simple question.
First, can we stop the whining and complaining? Don't want the ship or don't like it? Do not do the events period...oH waIt you want the set bonus for rePlaying the FE three times Of CouRse.
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So how about we all agree to disagree?
Its just Fed players want a Fed bridges and ships. Romulan players want a Romulan bridges and ships. Likewise for Klingons.
The bridge and layout shown is for all faction ships. Mind you each ship is different. Which is just bad design.
That's just what it sums to, over obvious bad designing and/or planning.
Yep, any thread that is talking about how bad the new patch is, has been locked down as far as I can see. I gotta say, this is disappointing to me. It seems that any time a company, and this goes for blizzard CCP and you too now Cryptic, has a problem, communication with the community seems to get left by the wayside. I have never seen one of you development companies have your server crash, and post on the main page what is going on. Any info like that is buried so deep it takes alot to find it, if its even made available at all. Between the new episode being unplayable, and the fact that none of my female characters can wear the maco MKXI set, and have it show correctly, I'm highly disappointed.
Its just Fed players want a Fed bridges and ships. Romulan players want a Romulan bridges and ships. Likewise for Klingons.
The bridge and layout shown is for all faction ships. Mind you each ship is different. Which is just bad design.
That's just what it sums to, over obvious bad designing and/or planning.
No, it comes from the fact that if they didn't put a unique bridge, people complain, and now apparently if they DO include one they do as well. They have already said the ability to use your own bridges is coming in a future patch, if you had read the dev posts in this thread you'd know that.
Yep, any thread that is talking about how bad the new patch is, has been locked down as far as I can see. I gotta say, this is disappointing to me. It seems that any time a company, and this goes for blizzard CCP and you too now Cryptic, has a problem, communication with the community seems to get left by the wayside. I have never seen one of you development companies have your server crash, and post on the main page what is going on. Any info like that is buried so deep it takes alot to find it, if its even made available at all. Between the new episode being unplayable, and the fact that none of my female characters can wear the maco MKXI set, and have it show correctly, I'm highly disappointed.
I've already run the new mission three times (once per faction), so it's not "unplayable". It appaears to be an issue with the DX9 client and perhaps certain cards or driver versions. I don't blame them for shutting "DOOOOOOOM!" threads down, they don't accomplish anything, and they get in the way of gathering real information that can help them fix the issues.
I dont mind forum moderation but since you're spending so much time on the forums anyways how about a 'TRIBBLE went wrong and the server died. We're Working on it' post from an admin?
I've already run the new mission three times (once per faction), so it's not "unplayable". It appaears to be an issue with the DX9 client and perhaps certain cards or driver versions. I don't blame them for shutting "DOOOOOOOM!" threads down, they don't accomplish anything, and they get in the way of gathering real information that can help them fix the issues.
Would just like to point out that some of the threads I saw were locked, weren't "DOOOM" threads, but posts about issues that were occurring. If it is as you suggest, and is an issue with DX9 clients, and enough cards or drivers are having the EXACT same issue at the EXACT same time, then that suggests a flaw in Cryptics quality management department. Now, if you can find a thread where the devs/Cryptic are attempting to actually gather information, please point it out for us.
I really wish the tactical mode was the other way around where the 60 second cooldown activated when you switched to tactical mode. It seems like you'd get a lot more utility from switching to science mode for a few seconds to squeeze off a few sci abilities before going back to your default of tactical.
Also, any chance of getting to use default bridges for this in place of the special one? I hate one-room interiors.
Also not thrilled we're stuck with the proton cannons in that slot.
But overall, looks like a cool ship.
Grateful for the ship, grateful that it offers a choice (a real one - let's not argue about this) of sci ship for Roms, finally.
I like the nifty idea of switching stuff around, and the set stuff all looks very nice.
Buuuuuuuuut...... I do have to say though.... after reading that post I quote above, I did start to smell yet another Tac ship cunningly disguised as a Sci ship...... Just sayin......
All in all though, nice one Crytpic, as soon as I download the S8.5 patch, I'll be working towards getting this ship.
"So my fun is wrong?"
No. Your fun makes everyone else's fun wrong by default.
I assume you mean in number of players. Prove this statement, please. I'm curious to know where you got this information.
What i meant is. My first point is, people keep saying ow, cool ship, i want it, ow nice consoles, ow ow, the only thing they want is new content and they dont care about anything else, even if the desings has nothing to do with the star trek universe. More bugs, and more bugs, month after month, and unsolved. And they keep growing. At this rate the game will not last more than a year. Also because people will stop playing , the logical step will be to stop paying monthly subscriptions (i am really amazed about this, so many people paying subs.. its ridiculous), and the next one, to stop playing for good. Now, i dont have "information" about this, only the whole forum itself. If you dont believe me, just give it 1 year.
No, it comes from the fact that if they didn't put a unique bridge, people complain, and now apparently if they DO include one they do as well. They have already said the ability to use your own bridges is coming in a future patch, if you had read the dev posts in this thread you'd know that.
Hmm. A unique bridge for all factions really?
My message stated a unique hybrid bridge for each faction INDIVIDUALLY.
It stops people about not having a unique bridge and it makes each faction having a authentic bridge. Keeping all players happy.
My message stated a unique hybrid bridge for each faction INDIVIDUALLY.
It stops people about not having a unique bridge and it makes each faction having a authentic bridge. Keeping all players happy.
I don't think Cryptic thought of that idea.
They probably thought of the man hours it takes to make a bridge that is visited by a small fraction of total players, on a ship that makes no money and decided that one was going to have to do. Art is expensive, even when they recycle parts like they did here. They make zero money on bridges, and the only reason they probably even bothered here is because of the cutscenes that take place there. If the had done more than one, they would have had to render the cutscene more than once as well (more money).
People seem to think that this stuff just magically appears. It doesn't. Taco and the rest of the interior artists spend time on them, and time spent on bridges is time they are not spending on other things like maps for missions. So it comes down to what people are going to want the most - maps for actual missions, or bridges that are basically throw-away content used by a few RPers. Bottom line is, be grateful that this is not the Vesta.
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But that is just it, they dont really care about the loyal support of the players, because they know the apologists will come out to defend them and enough of the silent majority will be upset but unwilling to take the steps to stop this trend of stronger and stronger handed money-grabs.
The bottomline is that the only way to make real change for the game is to not use the c-store items. Don't even buy them on the exchange, just not use them at all. No fleet modules, no buying the new shiny ships, ect.
The irony being that it requires you to do "nothing", by buying nothing from the store BUT CONTINUING TO PLAY. If enough people went "No, the carrot on the end of the c-store/arc stick you continue to beat me with ain't enough", then for them to continue to make money they would have to change their practices. (I for example would like to see fleet modules vanish and the end of the "Here is some pve grind content, now to get the full effect go and buy from the store. Oh and if you buy from the store but can't grind for 15 days, you are also screwed. Oh buy more lobi, trololol but hey thanks for the "support" kinda bs. But thats just me.)
Or maybe the people who whine on here are the crazy minority, you know like that crazy grandparent you have that everyone just tolerates?
Maybe the majority of the 'silent' playerbase arent bothered at all because they realise its a F2P game and they don't expect to be able to get all the best gear without paying any money which is just ridiculous anyway. No F2P game should ever allow players to get everything for free.
They are giving away so much cool **** in this event i just cant believe the sheer audacity at some people that probably dropped a maximum of 10$ on this game and got 100's if not 1000's of hours of play. Or run 32 characters to purely abuse the dil grinding, but then whine they are unhappy with the amount of rep 'grind'.
This forum is brimming with nieve and hypocritical people.
My only issue witht he event stuff is if the c-store 3 pack ends up being 3 seperate factional packs you have to buy individually, as that is just a pure cash grab. If it is just one account unlock and you claim the appropriate pack from each character then fine.
my thinking is different on the subject, while i complain about a valid issue the DHC and the lack of balance on the fed ship compared to the kdf and rr ships. i will get these ships, one to each faction. the thinking is that i get them when they come out, at some point down the road the anniversary ship may see some improvements or the c-store ships. so if i get em and park em in the garage as cryptic decides on improving these ships. but like any bet, you win or loose, either way you still gained another ship anyways with the choice to throw it away if thats what you want.
a few minutes a day for 15 days. bah, thats nothing, so it wont be a problem to get them anyways.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
So in otherwords, everyone ELSE is whining except for you, cause your problem is totes legit? You are right, your post proves the forum has hypocritical people.
Interestingly enough, show me where I said /everything/ should be free?
Saying "Hey, you shouldn't need fleet modules for fleet ships" is hardly saying "Everything should be free".
Saying "Hey, thank you events should not require buying stuff from the store to get the full effect cause thats not a "thank you" thats a "TRIBBLE you, give me more money" move" is not saying "everything should be free".
But hey, there you are, saying "Hey, I shouldnt have to pay this much for what I want" in relation to the 3-pack, so I guess you want everything for free as well. (Going by your flawed logic)
I for one have the time and energy to burn doing the FE 3 times on 3 toons (My Fed Joined Trill Sci, KDF Sci, and Rom Tac) and 15 days worth of Event Games.
Also, I like the bridge but options to change it would be welcome. Maybe a special Alt Bridge of the Origin for this might of been a better choice.
Third and finally, all these ships are awesome and to complain about the Tac Mode shift...the ships trades it's Sci-bonuses for Escort Bonuses of Speed, Turn Rate, Inertia, and shifting the power bonus from Auxilary to Weapons. If it didn't do this and instead gained all the bonuses of both in Tac Mode...
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...well for those worried about power creep; I would of worried more about power tsunami if that had been the case.
So how about we all agree to disagree?
It seems that some of the playerbase can't be happy about anything, so they'll complain about for no other reason but to complain.
I'm not certain the tac mode *makes up* for the losses at the moment however. Sensor Analysis is a pretty solid damage boost against things bigger than a mook, and the shutdown on your science boosts will lower those a bit.
It's no escort though, it's a "destroyer" [I know, the hull's very misleading there]. No +10% defense but no cruiser commands or analysis/subsystem, turn rate 14 even on the romulan ship, not 16+ and certainly no defiant with 17, a moderate amount of inertia [personally I does likes the sliding though; makes for good strafing runs].
The question thus becomes "Is switching, once per encounter, into Tactical after popping everything science that you can, for maybe 20s before switching back to grav wells and e-siphons, an improvement over what you lose?"
I'm sure some folks are crazy enough to have the ship already lobi-bought this afternoon, so I'd like to hear of the results. If good enough, it could be an acceptable intermediate between your free T5 Ha'Feh and an actual fleet/c-store/lobi ship. Not quite as powerful as the real endgame ships, but able to handle itself better than the freebie chit at 40.
If it can't make up for it, it's a better looking ha'nom with lower hull and shields.
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Looks good though.
Somebody in Cryptic at least listened to our wishlist of a Hybrid Science/Escort.
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Naah. While it might happen, they have not said anything that leads you to believe as much. All they have said is factional bridges will be available, which most likely means the existing faction bridges.
The Romulan ship looks great and fits the direction they would. The Klingon ship looks great but should have a more industeial feel. The Federation looked second rate to both.
As for the bridge its better suited for a Obedisk alternate layout.
Now the bridgd. Any good bridge design would fit the needs of the race. Federation, Klingon, and Romulans bridge watch chairs with some panel, decent environment lighting, clear identification of faction.
This bridge has none of the above.
If Cryptic was thinking faction specific bridges would be default. Also the option for a faction specific skin at least one. I am willing to bet the inner ship is exactly the same for all factions which is more bs.
They didn't think about or expect people to buy from the the cstore.
If its the latter. I can get the ship to play with. I will just grind for a two weeks and throw Cryptic one dollar for acting like selfish greedy airheads.
yup, im not surprised the game is going down month after month, thanks to people like you, that only says good things about everything. Sometimes people would think that you are in the cryptic pockets or something lol. Just joking.
It is not a question of want it or not, this is a star trek game. People who pilot a fed ship want a fed style ship, including the bridges. I dont know how to say this so you can understand. Its probably that u are not a trekkie, or maybe you just playing this game like if it is another mmo like neverwinter or watever. If the only thing you want is a mmo, then, you right, ships can be even invisible, if thats the case. Or you can pilot a space bus, who cares.
So, if cryptic makes a ship that looks like a cigarrette, its ok, because is still star trek (its called uss-cigarrette). I suposse there are 2 communities in this game, those who like star trek and those who like just a mmo.
I assume you mean in number of players. Prove this statement, please. I'm curious to know where you got this information.
You can reiterate hearsay forever (and, no, I'm not going to read dozens of pages). Without a link to an official source, I won't believe you.
Where? Not in the blog post.
Can we use other bridges but the Solanae default or not? It's a simple question.
Its just Fed players want a Fed bridges and ships. Romulan players want a Romulan bridges and ships. Likewise for Klingons.
The bridge and layout shown is for all faction ships. Mind you each ship is different. Which is just bad design.
That's just what it sums to, over obvious bad designing and/or planning.
In this thread. The dev tracker is your friend.
No, it comes from the fact that if they didn't put a unique bridge, people complain, and now apparently if they DO include one they do as well. They have already said the ability to use your own bridges is coming in a future patch, if you had read the dev posts in this thread you'd know that.
I've already run the new mission three times (once per faction), so it's not "unplayable". It appaears to be an issue with the DX9 client and perhaps certain cards or driver versions. I don't blame them for shutting "DOOOOOOOM!" threads down, they don't accomplish anything, and they get in the way of gathering real information that can help them fix the issues.
Would just like to point out that some of the threads I saw were locked, weren't "DOOOM" threads, but posts about issues that were occurring. If it is as you suggest, and is an issue with DX9 clients, and enough cards or drivers are having the EXACT same issue at the EXACT same time, then that suggests a flaw in Cryptics quality management department. Now, if you can find a thread where the devs/Cryptic are attempting to actually gather information, please point it out for us.
Grateful for the ship, grateful that it offers a choice (a real one - let's not argue about this) of sci ship for Roms, finally.
I like the nifty idea of switching stuff around, and the set stuff all looks very nice.
Buuuuuuuuut...... I do have to say though.... after reading that post I quote above, I did start to smell yet another Tac ship cunningly disguised as a Sci ship...... Just sayin......
All in all though, nice one Crytpic, as soon as I download the S8.5 patch, I'll be working towards getting this ship.
No. Your fun makes everyone else's fun wrong by default.
What i meant is. My first point is, people keep saying ow, cool ship, i want it, ow nice consoles, ow ow, the only thing they want is new content and they dont care about anything else, even if the desings has nothing to do with the star trek universe. More bugs, and more bugs, month after month, and unsolved. And they keep growing. At this rate the game will not last more than a year. Also because people will stop playing , the logical step will be to stop paying monthly subscriptions (i am really amazed about this, so many people paying subs.. its ridiculous), and the next one, to stop playing for good. Now, i dont have "information" about this, only the whole forum itself. If you dont believe me, just give it 1 year.
Hmm. A unique bridge for all factions really?
My message stated a unique hybrid bridge for each faction INDIVIDUALLY.
It stops people about not having a unique bridge and it makes each faction having a authentic bridge. Keeping all players happy.
I don't think Cryptic thought of that idea.
They probably thought of the man hours it takes to make a bridge that is visited by a small fraction of total players, on a ship that makes no money and decided that one was going to have to do. Art is expensive, even when they recycle parts like they did here. They make zero money on bridges, and the only reason they probably even bothered here is because of the cutscenes that take place there. If the had done more than one, they would have had to render the cutscene more than once as well (more money).
People seem to think that this stuff just magically appears. It doesn't. Taco and the rest of the interior artists spend time on them, and time spent on bridges is time they are not spending on other things like maps for missions. So it comes down to what people are going to want the most - maps for actual missions, or bridges that are basically throw-away content used by a few RPers. Bottom line is, be grateful that this is not the Vesta.