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Re: 4-yr Ann. Event (was: Enjoy another rep for anniversary ships *post #30 & #643*)

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  • nyxadrillnyxadrill Member Posts: 1,242 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Oh really? What did they say? Beyond "We're listening" which means nothing without a follow up.

    This. However seeing as they've just gone ahead anyways its now a mute point. I switched on last night to find the server was down after the patch....For the first time ever with STO my reaction was "meh...".

    I honestly wasn't bothered so went and did something else in the real world. That's how much enthusiasm I could generate for STO and the "Anniversary". As a pretty hardcore player that's sad :(.
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  • fluffybunny23422fluffybunny23422 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I know this is the wrong place.... but where do I find Party Patrol episode, still bit new to all :D Thanks :)
  • johnstewardjohnsteward Member Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    This Q-game is so not fun:(
    Will do it on 2 chars max tbh
  • biidibiidi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    eagledraco wrote: »
    Any tips on easier ways to beat the shell game? I played it last year - Q is difficult for me to see depending on which way the presents move.

    I can kinda crouch and zoom just right to peek inside the presents if I didn't see Q move - but not always. To me, this seems more of a time waster than something fun to do.

    Just stand back a little and you can turn the camera around to look inside once they stop. Always works, you just may need to move forward or back a little.
  • diensdalediensdale Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    palinell69 wrote: »
    Really could not agree more, grind/work those are not terms that should be used on a GAME, but the point is to have FUN, tons of fun and play a fantasy. The party patrol after learning it is NOT fun at all, Cryptic Studio needs to begin drug testing all employees

    I laughed very loud ;) Well this grind is not pleasant or funny. It just is a must. Too bad.
  • neowolfenneowolfen Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Okay I'll admit I loved the featured episode and the Tim Russ (Tuvok) appearance and the episode was extremely well crafted.

    HOWEVER.

    It is with great dismay I find the event is just another of the ever increasing number of GRINDS creeping into all PWE/Cryptic games these days.

    Do the episode once get 400 commendations, great.. once per day thereafter for 40 more, get the ship once you've earned 1000 total.. so basically once a day for two weeks.

    That is a BAD enough grind but then the REAL kick in the teeth comes by the fact that this is not PER ACCOUNt but instead PER CHARACTER.

    Are you freaking kidding me Crytpic? I have like 16 Captains.. if you honeslty think I or anyone else with more than one character is going to do this episode once per day for fourteen days PER CHARACTER you are out of your minds.

    This is less of a 4th year Anniversary Celebration and more of an insulting grind.

    WHY was this not made an ACCOUNT unlocked ship. That way every would still have to do it once per day for 14 days to get the ship unlocked for the account as a whole. So the 14 days would be a ONCE only thing not a ONCE per character thing.

    They would also still have to do it per captain (upto 3 times) to get the ship equipment set pieces though that could be done at any time as unlike the ship event the episode rewards can be done by replaying the episode any time after the Anniversary event is ended but that is neither here or there unlike the ship which I assume is only going to be available during the event itself.
    Ser Alathor Crownguard, Cwelenas Alenuath, Dwarin Stonefist, Danaerys Hellborn
  • hunteralpha84hunteralpha84 Member Posts: 524 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Hell at least you get to grind for it. I lose my internet in 6 days for a month and I'm gonna miss this years ship. I liked the look of it to.
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Everyship we have ever earned through any event have been per character. Don't see why they would change that now.
  • neowolfenneowolfen Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    scififan78 wrote: »
    Everyship we have ever earned through any event have been per character. Don't see why they would change that now.

    Because its TRIBBLE. And because this is an ANNIVERSARY not an ordinary event.
    Ser Alathor Crownguard, Cwelenas Alenuath, Dwarin Stonefist, Danaerys Hellborn
  • vocmcpvocmcp Member Posts: 1,134 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Hell at least you get to grind for it. I lose my internet in 6 days for a month and I'm gonna miss this years ship. I liked the look of it to.

    Lobi Store ;)
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    neowolfen wrote: »
    Because its TRIBBLE. And because this is an ANNIVERSARY not an ordinary event.

    The previous two anniversary ships were per character too.
  • vilecalamitousvilecalamitous Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    The FE only grants you 400 Qmendations. You get the rest by doing the Q event bit.
  • neowolfenneowolfen Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    scififan78 wrote: »
    The previous two anniversary ships were per character too.

    And they ALSO didnt require you to play a mission once per day per character for 14 days. But hey lets ignore that GLARING ommision in your justification for the grind eh ;)
    Ser Alathor Crownguard, Cwelenas Alenuath, Dwarin Stonefist, Danaerys Hellborn
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    neowolfen wrote: »
    And they ALSO didnt require you to play a mission once per day per character for 14 days. But hey lets ignore that GLARING ommision in your justification for the grind eh ;)

    I am not justifying any grind so don't go assuming I am. You asked why they weren't account unlock and I answered that they never were. Simple as that.
  • gogereavergogereaver Member Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    anything not gotten from zstore has always been per char.
  • neowolfenneowolfen Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    scififan78 wrote: »
    I am not justifying any grind so don't go assuming I am. You asked why they weren't account unlock and I answered that they never were. Simple as that.

    The point I was making that you seem to have missed is that they didnt NEED to be account unlocks before because you didnt have ANY grind involved in getting the anniversary rewards. All were attained previously by doing a mission ONCE.

    NOT once per character per day for 14 days.

    TheAnniversary is supposed to be a celebration of the game and a giveback to the players.. slapping us with a MONUMENTAL grind is not a celebration its an insult.
    Ser Alathor Crownguard, Cwelenas Alenuath, Dwarin Stonefist, Danaerys Hellborn
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    at first I had no problem with the rep for the ship but after all the server problems I am beginning to agree.

    even if they give us the ship for doing the mission I would still have played the q event for the goodies and dil ect if that is all they were worried about, and I am sure many other players are the same.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • gogereavergogereaver Member Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    guess you never played anything owned by pwi. they make everything grind to keep you playing the game. they knew the anni event would bring server crashing numbers but quickly fall off as people got the rewards. so drag it out to keep you playing.
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Whack-a-Q, sounds much more fun than the shell game

    I don't mint the q games but I must admit Whack-a-Q does sound neat.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • algideonalgideon Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Well isn't it the same with all larger Patches or Content Updates? It is a shame that they are haveing the same problem with crashing servers over and over and over again.
    Guys, start thinking about that! What does it tell the players that your servers crash every time you do one of your big updates, you are so excited about and proud of?
    And it gets even worse when you combine it with Giveaways that need to be claimed within a limited time. Not all of us live in the same timezone and are able to claim those "Rewards" anytime they want. In my case it was 7 PM when the Ann. Event started but I'm at work until that time and so I can only log in when I get home. So it was about 9 PM when I was able to log on and what did I see? SERVER DOWN! Only because you are not able to launch a new Season, FE, Event or larger Patch without crashing the server! There are lots of other games that don't have these problems. At least not every time. The Players, YOUR Players already expect a Server Down and I don't think it is the expectation you want Cryptic.
    But I think it would be fair to extend the Event at least for another Day to compensate the Server Down.
  • sentinel64sentinel64 Member Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Despite the grindathon and the server meltdown, the core part of the anniversary, the featured episode mission, was well done and very entertaining.

    I went the lobi route to avoid the grind (already had them saved up for the next grind, but thought that was going to be the summer event). I doubt I will even think about the C-store version which sound like it will be overpriced. The anniversary was a mixed bag, but the FE was excellent (and I did not get the blackout during spacewalk). :cool:

    p.s. 3 toons, three ships for 645 lobi (129 q-com boxes); at least they gave a good exchange rate.
  • neowolfenneowolfen Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    gogereaver wrote: »
    guess you never played anything owned by pwi. they make everything grind to keep you playing the game. they knew the anni event would bring server crashing numbers but quickly fall off as people got the rewards. so drag it out to keep you playing.

    PWE didn't make STO Cryptic Did. And Cryptic have always said that apart from access to more resources etc.. PWE doesn't interfere what they do with the game. So the blame for this has to fall on Cryptics shoulders (influenced or not).

    These sorts f grinds are not enjoyable they are insulting and it is a terrible way to present an anniversary and such a finely crafted featured episode and new ship designs.

    I find it laughable that in every MMO out there grind is despised yet Cryptic apparently think it makes perfect sense to keep adding MORE grind to thier games. An EVENT should by definition be EVENTFUL.. not an endless reptition of the same thing ovr and over for every individual character. And Anniversary event even moreso as that is meant to be a thank you to the players for thier continued support.
    Ser Alathor Crownguard, Cwelenas Alenuath, Dwarin Stonefist, Danaerys Hellborn
  • nesomumi2nesomumi2 Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    sentinel64 wrote: »
    After the second crash, I was able to finish one run on one toon and then go to the Lobi store and get the 600 q-tickets from 41 boxes (205 lobis) to close out one toon (out of 3 that will be the only ones with the Anniv ship... and no C-store ship in the future). :rolleyes:

    As long as there are people like you in this game, this game will never go under. Ty dear sir, ty for support.
  • eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    You basically answered your own question and others have pointed it out too, if you are too lazy to grind for the ship, don't do it. Be positive, at least it isnt for 30 days.
  • bones1970bones1970 Member Posts: 953 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Worst part is, next month they bring out a c-store pack, but you still need the anniversary ship for the 4 piece set..
    I wanted to throw some money to cryptic cause i hate the grinding, but no if i want the ship i must grind and throw money (for the 10 console) at cryptic.... Not going to happen....
  • kantazo1kantazo1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I tried the minigame yesterday after 40 minutes of running around 2 miniQ tagged, there were plenty of miniQ on the area but every time I approached one you couldn't interact with them because they already were tagged and they just sat there. No respawn whatsoever, so after 40 minutes frustration settled in and I was about to start hating the rest of the players, but then I realized they are in my same case.

    So time to sleep and turned off the PC, day 1 BIG FAIL, I cannot finish the quest and now IK am moving to day 2 to tag 3 more miniQ and then finish hopefully tonight the quest that count 1 quest 2 days, if this is the norm I will not be able to finish the event even getting 1 ship for my 7 toons.

    Big Fail indeed to those of us who work and can only spare 1-2 hours, 40 minutes and only 2 tags.

    Whoever said you can do this event in 5 minutes didn't take in consideration the hundreds of players running around trying to do the same thing at the same time.

    Big Fail indeed.
    Seek and ye shall find. Yeshua
  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Change. Zones.

    Did 5 miniQ's 10 minutes before bedtime yesterday.
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
  • kublahkankublahkan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    That is exactly how the Free to Play model works. Casual players don't have the time to do everything, they take out their wallets. Full time players can't pay a dime anyway.

    At least other MMOs didn't had the F2P (Free to Pay) option so grindwise I was always lagging behind.

    Myself I could not complete anything yesterday because of the server issues. I'm away at work for a few days still and can only log on a few hours after dinner. So I'll take out my wallet eventually.
    "Starship captains are like children. They want everything right now and they want it their way. The secret is to give them what they need, not what they want."
    - Scotty, to La Forge
  • gpgtxgpgtx Member Posts: 1,579 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    205 lobi is not hard i was still sitting on my 500 free lobi from the feature episode reruns.

    i got the ship on one character my others will not get it as i am not grinding the stupid party patrol. SFA lags my computer to dust and i could not just do it with out getting aggravated
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  • kantazo1kantazo1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I don't mind paying for the ship I did the main FE yesterday and I love the ship, the problem is that I read you must have the ship that you get here to be able to have all the 4 parts? Is this true?
    Seek and ye shall find. Yeshua
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