Might as well get the ship by just logging in and playing for a good couple of hours and then leave the game until they put another free item. That is such a great business model, I don't know why the Devs just follow the plan of the extremely lazy players is beyond me.
The game consists of more than the Holiday repeatable. People don't want to be told what they have to do in the game. Many people might normally not bother with such a task, because it's repetitive and boring.
And you have to realize - if you want that ship actually on 8 or 16 different characters, this will cut deep into your available paly time, having to do somethnig you were not interested in instead of the stuff you were interested in.
Basicaly - you don't get to play the game you wanted to play.
Yes you do. Its not about that at all.
Its about the reward. Like any other reward in any other MMO, the toon in question has to do the tasks.
The reward is not mandatory by any means, it's a 'nice to have' like any other reward; especially in this game where there are a multitude of competitive options and where there is no real 'best in slot' like in a lot of other MMO's.
I don't think this type of complaining can ever be taken to seriously in this genre.
Perhaps in future they could add an account-wide option all your characters can contribute to, for say 4 or 5 times the price of a single ship. But that would require new mechanisms to allow it, and probably be somehow open to exploiting.
STO is not a game focused on casual people. Thats the whole truth. If you only have 1 or 2 hours to play, thats really bad, because you will need ages to progress in the game.
Cryptic doesnt care about casual people, i asked the same question ages ago, and there is no solution to it.
Plus, imagine not only you are a casual player, but you are European. Then, the discrimination will be just amazing, trust me xD.
But, i must say, i did yesterday the mini game in about 10 minutes. Its not a bid deal and i suposse u can change instances. Now, i didnt try again since i didnt log-in since yesterday before the black out lol. I only did 1 time the q mini game.
There are two 4pc sets. One is the one you get for replaying the mission and the other is one piece from the grind ship and three from the c store bundle.
If you want both you need to rerun the FE and then buy the 5k zen three pack when it comes out.
I forgot about this. Again, cryptic fooling the customers to make them waste even more money. This will never change, unfortunately. Welcome to STO lol.
I tried the minigame yesterday after 40 minutes of running around 2 miniQ tagged, there were plenty of miniQ on the area but every time I approached one you couldn't interact with them because they already were tagged and they just sat there.
40 minutes?! :eek:
I have no idea how that's possible. If you come across a Mini Q that's inactive, stop and wait for it to activate. I swear, it doesn't take longer than 10 seconds, maximum.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
I have no idea how that's possible. If you come across a Mini Q that's inactive, stop and wait for it to activate. I swear, it doesn't take longer than 10 seconds, maximum.
I tried they didn't, they were just there, never reactivated. To be hones this was before the mother of all the Servers crashed happened, so this morning when I signed in 1 of the miniQs I had finished was removed.
I have no idea how that's possible. If you come across a Mini Q that's inactive, stop and wait for it to activate. I swear, it doesn't take longer than 10 seconds, maximum.
This is true. I think the problem was that he waited less than 10 seconds and thats the reason to stay 40 minutes trying to do the mission lol.
I don't think that it's great fun, but I don't hate it.
I do not like that it can be rigged, though, with the boxes sometimes stacking on top of each other and the qs being able to switch into any of those boxes. No way to be sure unless the q runs from one box to another or you can catch a glimpse of him sticking out the side of a box at some later point.
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But I will tell you what is absolutely, 100% not enjoyable.
When some jerk decides to stand right in the path of the boxes, adding even more obstacles to your being able to tell which box he is in.
Or when someone decides to start activating abilities that result in all sorts of lighting effects and visual obstructions.
Maybe a bunch of people could even decide to just wander around and make tracking the q absolutely impossible.
This is something that shouldn't be possible.
Switch the shell game to a "window" game.
Whether it be like data-mining, dilithium mining, the artifact sorting on Defera, Radiation samples on New Romulus, or some other new system, I shouldn't have to deal with a bunch of people who's life sucks so much that all they can do to make themselves feel better is to try and drag other people down while playing a game.
simple solution, if there's no combat at SFA, you can't use any of your captains abillities either.
Because its TRIBBLE. And because this is an ANNIVERSARY not an ordinary event.
Okay, it's an Anniversary. We've had 3 of those before this one- now which ships in any of the previous 3 were account unlocks? Oops...
Your logic, such as it is, fails hard. "Because this is an ANNIVERSARY, like all the ones that gave out character-bound ships consistently before." :rolleyes:
Are you freaking kidding me Crytpic? I have like 16 Captains.. if you honeslty think I or anyone else with more than one character is going to do this episode once per day for fourteen days PER CHARACTER you are out of your minds.
So you think one, 5 minute grind a day should net 16 Anniversary ships then, yes? I will be doing this for 4 or 5 of my Captains. So Cryptic is, apparently not 'out of their minds.'
Okay, it's an Anniversary. We've had 3 of those before this one- now which ships in any of the previous 3 were account unlocks? Oops...
Your logic, such as it is, fails hard. "Because this is an ANNIVERSARY, like all the ones that gave out character-bound ships consistently before." :rolleyes:
Not only what you've said, but also, every ship that's been part of the Special Event rep has been character unlock only. It's almost like there's a precedent for it...
I want to say that i hate this mini game as well.
1) Increase the number and locations of the mini Q's.
2) Make it more obvious who of the nearby people triggered him, i had one time i thought i had gotten it, but when the boxes were done, i had nothing to click.
3) Code it so that the npc's can not walk through during the game.
4) Dont let the transformed q's go where you can not when you get the chase.
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I have an idea for what Season 11 should be; Season 11: The Big Bug Fix.
I have not been able to read my bug tickets in over a year, not even the tickets about not being able to see my tickets.
I find the drama of your signature proof of your immaturity, this means you, DR whiners.
Well, d@mn. I might have tried for the ship on my FedSci, but griefer toolbags interfering with my progress is a deal-killer. If that happens to me even once, I will not go back.
A suggestion that could still be implemented, with regard to the anniversary ship grind-dailies:
Implement sponsorship tokens for the event, with each token = 600 Qmendations. Would be ideal if they were account-wide, but I would say a good compromise would be faction-specific.
This would require each character to complete the FE, which rewards 400 Qmendations. Then each player would have a maximum of 3 characters to run through the mini-games on a daily basis to get the remaining Qmendations (one character per faction). When the mini-game daily grind is completed on a character, that character can then sponsor all the other characters of that faction.
I don't think anyone has a problem with running the FE with each character, and sponsorship would help in reducing the server load for the mini-game, and help a little with the outcry on the grind.
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the only difficulty I have experienced is the little Q does not spawn enough. Increase that spawn so everybody has a chance and all is well.
Otherwise the game with the presents is easy and catching an escapee is even easier.
I am not fond of the ship being a Reputation Event - especially if there is going to be a Store version on future - but I did not find the Event to be overly taxing. I ran 4 characters through the Event today in about 30 minutes; even with all the people in the zone.
If find the trick to the presents is to simply zoom out. Then you can easily see him running between the boxes. It's easier on the Klingon Academy as there's more open territory and less camera restrictions due to plants and whatnot.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I too would prefer to smack Q around. Now THAT would be enjoyable.
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the only difficulty I have experienced is the little Q does not spawn enough. Increase that spawn so everybody has a chance and all is well.
Otherwise the game with the presents is easy and catching an escapee is even easier.
Didn't you use to be Roach way back when this game was still under Atari?
Didn't you use to be Roach way back when this game was still under Atari?
He still is Roach. Now he is just BiteMePWE Roach.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Yeah, I am not exactly a big fan of this mini game either. What I feel about it falls somewhere in between animosity and loathing.
Having to compete with 100 other players on the same map for the same resources is annoying. The shell game fills me with malice, and when it appears I just ignore it and search for another miniQ. :mad:
The whack-a-Q idea has merit though.
I was sick of the player-dense maps, fighting for resources, having the jerks try to break my concentration on the shell games, then I realized moving to the shard with the lowest population actually helps. I'd one run where there was only 5 others on the map.
And yes, doing 15 days of shell games is not fun at all. The only reason I'm doing it, too, is my Rommie's ride is glitched without repair, and I'm hoping this ship proves at least adequate.
I want to say that i hate this mini game as well.
1) Increase the number and locations of the mini Q's.
2) Make it more obvious who of the nearby people triggered him, i had one time i thought i had gotten it, but when the boxes were done, i had nothing to click.
3) Code it so that the npc's can not walk through during the game.
4) Dont let the transformed q's go where you can not when you get the chase.
Nope. I like it. It's easy and relaxing. Ran it on all my toons in 30 mins or so. I don't see anything wrong with it. I take it as an added challange if an NPC walks through sometimes, though if you choose your location with a bit of sense (like anywhere where there are no NPC paths) that is not even an issue.
Be patient waiting for them, and change instances, if you can. I just ran it through all 12 alts for the second time. Not one took 5 minutes total, including time to go back to ESD or First City and turn it in. The game was crash-happy last night, perhaps it caused problems in your instance. That's hopefully behind us ow, so good luck from here on in.
This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
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EXACTLY!!! Why cheese off the main source of cash???
Yes you do. Its not about that at all.
Its about the reward. Like any other reward in any other MMO, the toon in question has to do the tasks.
The reward is not mandatory by any means, it's a 'nice to have' like any other reward; especially in this game where there are a multitude of competitive options and where there is no real 'best in slot' like in a lot of other MMO's.
I don't think this type of complaining can ever be taken to seriously in this genre.
I did the XMas Breen ship on only 3 toons, because I didn't want all my toons flying the same ship. Talk about dull.
Cryptic doesnt care about casual people, i asked the same question ages ago, and there is no solution to it.
Plus, imagine not only you are a casual player, but you are European. Then, the discrimination will be just amazing, trust me xD.
But, i must say, i did yesterday the mini game in about 10 minutes. Its not a bid deal and i suposse u can change instances. Now, i didnt try again since i didnt log-in since yesterday before the black out lol. I only did 1 time the q mini game.
I forgot about this. Again, cryptic fooling the customers to make them waste even more money. This will never change, unfortunately. Welcome to STO lol.
40 minutes?! :eek:
I have no idea how that's possible. If you come across a Mini Q that's inactive, stop and wait for it to activate. I swear, it doesn't take longer than 10 seconds, maximum.
I tried they didn't, they were just there, never reactivated. To be hones this was before the mother of all the Servers crashed happened, so this morning when I signed in 1 of the miniQs I had finished was removed.
This is true. I think the problem was that he waited less than 10 seconds and thats the reason to stay 40 minutes trying to do the mission lol.
Happened to me yesterday. But it wasn't a player - it was an NPC blocking the view. Even the NPCs sabotage this minigame. :eek:
simple solution, if there's no combat at SFA, you can't use any of your captains abillities either.
Okay, it's an Anniversary. We've had 3 of those before this one- now which ships in any of the previous 3 were account unlocks? Oops...
Your logic, such as it is, fails hard. "Because this is an ANNIVERSARY, like all the ones that gave out character-bound ships consistently before." :rolleyes:
So you think one, 5 minute grind a day should net 16 Anniversary ships then, yes? I will be doing this for 4 or 5 of my Captains. So Cryptic is, apparently not 'out of their minds.'
Not only what you've said, but also, every ship that's been part of the Special Event rep has been character unlock only. It's almost like there's a precedent for it...
1) Increase the number and locations of the mini Q's.
2) Make it more obvious who of the nearby people triggered him, i had one time i thought i had gotten it, but when the boxes were done, i had nothing to click.
3) Code it so that the npc's can not walk through during the game.
4) Dont let the transformed q's go where you can not when you get the chase.
I have an idea for what Season 11 should be; Season 11: The Big Bug Fix.
I have not been able to read my bug tickets in over a year, not even the tickets about not being able to see my tickets.
I find the drama of your signature proof of your immaturity, this means you, DR whiners.
Implement sponsorship tokens for the event, with each token = 600 Qmendations. Would be ideal if they were account-wide, but I would say a good compromise would be faction-specific.
This would require each character to complete the FE, which rewards 400 Qmendations. Then each player would have a maximum of 3 characters to run through the mini-games on a daily basis to get the remaining Qmendations (one character per faction). When the mini-game daily grind is completed on a character, that character can then sponsor all the other characters of that faction.
I don't think anyone has a problem with running the FE with each character, and sponsorship would help in reducing the server load for the mini-game, and help a little with the outcry on the grind.
Aliella Hawklight, Divine Oracle Devoted Cleric
"Whenever a time arises where clarity is desired, it is always wise to reflect on the sage within."
― Sereda Aleta Dailey
DaiMon Moogie, U.S.S. Acquisition
Rule of Acquisition #57: Good customers are as rare as latinum. Treasure them.
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Otherwise the game with the presents is easy and catching an escapee is even easier.
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If find the trick to the presents is to simply zoom out. Then you can easily see him running between the boxes. It's easier on the Klingon Academy as there's more open territory and less camera restrictions due to plants and whatnot.
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Didn't you use to be Roach way back when this game was still under Atari?
I was sick of the player-dense maps, fighting for resources, having the jerks try to break my concentration on the shell games, then I realized moving to the shard with the lowest population actually helps. I'd one run where there was only 5 others on the map.
And yes, doing 15 days of shell games is not fun at all. The only reason I'm doing it, too, is my Rommie's ride is glitched without repair, and I'm hoping this ship proves at least adequate.
Nope. I like it. It's easy and relaxing. Ran it on all my toons in 30 mins or so. I don't see anything wrong with it. I take it as an added challange if an NPC walks through sometimes, though if you choose your location with a bit of sense (like anywhere where there are no NPC paths) that is not even an issue.
I remember his famous rants in defense of the under loved Klingons under Atari.