I went to a lot of effort install the ARC client on the Mac. Even after fully patching, it takes over ten minutes for the client to start up. The client is sluggish and constantly flickering.
All of that to get to the Khan outfit, select it, and find that it's not really available once I switch back to the regular Mac client.
So how many gigabytes and hours did I just waste to your corporate greed?
Hi there. Sorry, I missed the first post about it. Unfortunately, Arc is PC only, so the promo wouldn't be available for Mac users unfortunately. I'll pass along the feedback.
I went to a lot of effort install the ARC client on the Mac. Even after fully patching, it takes over ten minutes for the client to start up. The client is sluggish and constantly flickering.
All of that to get to the Khan outfit, select it, and find that it's not really available once I switch back to the regular Mac client.
So how many gigabytes and hours did I just waste to your corporate greed?
As you can see from branflakes post ARC is not MAC compatable at this moment.
I went to a lot of effort install the ARC client on the Mac. Even after fully patching, it takes over ten minutes for the client to start up. The client is sluggish and constantly flickering.
All of that to get to the Khan outfit, select it, and find that it's not really available once I switch back to the regular Mac client.
So how many gigabytes and hours did I just waste to your corporate greed?
Good that i have a 2nd PC were i can install arc, i 100% dont put it on my main PC!
Steam, Origin, UPlay are more then enough of this Kind of Software so put STO on on of this ... its already on Steam so no need for Arc
And if i later have to use Arc or Steam because the only with Cryptic Laucher, STO might not work anymore i will use my Steam Version of STO. I dont like any other Arc Game and never will.
And i made a 2nd STO Acc to test the new Outfit 1. before i login with my main Acc.
Because it dont looks the good the new Khan outfit.
Errr ... thanks for your concern , but when I feel like I and the rest of the players are being manipulated into installing Arc via this "promo" , then my feedback goes to this promo .
I am a massive fan of anything canon, I may never wear it but if there is a means to get free something that existed in canon I will do it. That being said, I will not have Arc on my computer.
So my solution, I unplugged all my drives, got an old hard drive, gave it a few formats and installed basic WinXP SP2. All it needed was a graphics driver and a copy of my game files and I was done. Now the drive sits in a draw ready in case it is ever needed again, I hope PWE enjoys the mountains of personal info it gains from a clean windows install.
Agreed. I can't believe that PWE is so desperate to get people to use arc that it resorts to freebies....
If I ever do install Arc, it will be on a virtual box partition away from the rest of my main OS and programs and it will be just for getting these freebies...
Is that likely to happen? No? I don't want spyware on my computer so no thank you.
they said, day one when they introduced arc that there was going to be promotions that will be arc exclusive. I for one like arc, I can log on instantly and i get the news as soon as my comps on, never have to go onto my internet unless i really want to. then again i don't play any other mmo.
Errr ... thanks for your concern , but when I feel like I and the rest of the players are being manipulated into installing Arc via this "promo" , then my feedback goes to this promo .
If you have feedback relating to ARC itself, then it belongs on the feedback thread. As for being manipulated. No one is being manipulated to do anything, we are all free to do as we please, like you choose to play STO or not, we choose to play STO through ARC or Steam, or stand alone launcher.
they said, day one when they introduced arc that there was going to be promotions that will be arc exclusive. I for one like arc, I can log on instantly and i get the news as soon as my comps on, never have to go onto my internet unless i really want to. then again i don't play any other mmo.
Me too I have posted my feedback on the thread deicated to ARC.
No way are you really thinking we are that dumb. To those that took the offer because of the uniform, ha ha you gonna regret it (Junk mail, TARGETED advertising, details syphoned and sold to the highest bidder, surfing habits and history logged and pawed over and analysed ) !!!!
No way are you really thinking we are that dumb. To those that took the offer because of the uniform, ha ha you gonna regret it (Junk mail, TARGETED advertising, details syphoned and sold to the highest bidder, surfing habits and history logged and pawed over and analysed ) !!!!
No way are you really thinking we are that dumb. To those that took the offer because of the uniform, ha ha you gonna regret it (Junk mail, TARGETED advertising, details syphoned and sold to the highest bidder, surfing habits and history logged and pawed over and analysed ) !!!!
As much as I want to be cynical and agree with you, this is just not true.
Before you install Arc, there's a legal agreement which most people skip over, if you go and actually read it, it does mention the data it collects, and it only collects data from WITHIN the program, there's no mention of them collecting data from your use other software or services, so if they were doing this they'd be doing it in violation to the U.S. Computer Fraud and Abuse Act or as in my home country, the U.K.'s Computer Misuse Act, which no indemnity clause can overturn. Frankly PWE aren't that stupid, if they were collecting private data from your pc or browser they'd mention it.
installed Arc, grabbed the outfits (thx), uninstalled Arc :rolleyes:
i got 182 Games in Steam, i have ONE in Arc... why should i use that? there is just no point to it. And i can have all the PWE games in Steam for all i care...
I caved and downloaded Arc. Mainly so I could outfit my Nausi-khan pirate toon in appropriate attire
Not noticing Arc doing anything hinky so far. Antivirus/malware software up-to-date and running nicely, no permissions granted to Arc, Not much going on in Arc that interests me but honestly not seeing the bad yet. I'll keep it for a week and see how I feel then.
"...we are far more united and have far more in common with each other than the things that divide us.”
Jo Cox 22.6.1974 - 16.6.2016
You people realize that downloading and using ARC for just the costume does indeed mean that ARCs download and log-in stats are rising, thus making it easier for them to justify the step of making it mandatory? ('X players already downloaded and use ARC')
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
If you have feedback relating to ARC itself, then it belongs on the feedback thread. As for being manipulated. No one is being manipulated to do anything, we are all free to do as we please, like you choose to play STO or not, we choose to play STO through ARC or Steam, or stand alone launcher.
You really think there's a choice? ARC isn't an idea they are kicking around and seeing if people like it or want it, you will be forced to use ARC to access STO sometime in the near future and you don't think that's being manipulated?
i can mix parts, also it is account wide unlock for all toons,
U cant. I cant put my usual off duty outfit in my female character and add the khan boots using, for example, a skirt in the lower part of the body. Thats not possible, for example. But well, its free so, whatsoever.
You people realize that downloading and using ARC for just the costume does indeed mean that ARCs download and log-in stats are rising, thus making it easier for them to justify the step of making it mandatory? ('X players already downloaded and use ARC')
99.9% of users downloaded ARC during the freebie period
After the freebie period 0.001% of users logged in using ARC.
So as long as everyone uninstall's it then hopefully the message that people don't want it will get through
PWE could give away every c-store ship and outfit for free to players who use arc and I still wouldn't use arc ... not even to log-in, claim the freebies, and uninstall.
Hey, PWE, instead of wasting time and effort on arc, please fix the bugs in STO and maybe assign a team of devs to make sure STO is ready to use the new Steam controller when Valve's Steambox platform launches this year. I'm sure many of us would like to play STO from the comfort of our living room and HDTV.
In the immortal words of Captain Sisko: "It may not be what you believe, but that doesn't make it wrong."
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
Hey, PWE, instead of wasting time and effort on arc, please fix the bugs in STO and maybe assign a team of devs to make sure STO is ready to use the new Steam controller when Valve's Steambox platform launches this year. I'm sure many of us would like to play STO from the comfort of our living room and HDTV.
guess in your country they dont have long enough hdmi cables to connect your pc to tv or some other big screen in your living room
99.9% of users downloaded ARC during the freebie period
After the freebie period 0.001% of users logged in using ARC.
So as long as everyone uninstall's it then hopefully the message that people don't want it will get through
You have no idea what you are talking about. One not everyone visits the forums or post on the forums. ARC works fine, is not a resource hog like people, it barely uses any resources and barely takes any room up on your computer
You have no idea what you are talking about. One not everyone visits the forums or post on the forums. ARC works fine, is not a resource hog like people, it barely uses any resources and barely takes any room up on your computer
Actually, when comparing it to the superior platform that Arc is copying (Steam), it does.
Arc uses 8 times the memory, has 2 or more processes (Steam has 1) and also attempts to install plugins to your browsers....
As shady unified launcher programs go, Arc is up there with Origin and makes even that program look like roses and sunshine.
Some people do not have highend gaming systems, and barely beat the minimum requirements. Those people have a legitimate reason to complain as to why Arc needs so many resources....
You have no idea what you are talking about. One not everyone visits the forums or post on the forums. ARC works fine, is not a resource hog like people, it barely uses any resources and barely takes any room up on your computer
It does *nothing* that cannot already be done with existing software. I think that qualifies as "bloatware" in my book.
No really, my initial reaction on starting it up for the first time was bewilderment; had I started steam by mistake? No. Arc looks, feels and does everything steam does, other than give access to the huge catalogue of games available on steam. One of which is STO.
LOL no it doesn't I am running ARC right now and it only uses 65.5k for the ARCOSBrowser exe and 13k for the ARC exe itself. It has never installed plugins to my browser.
The only bloatware is what you think. ARC is not bloatware. If you want bloatware go install Steam.
You have no idea what you are talking about. One not everyone visits the forums or post on the forums. ARC works fine, is not a resource hog like people, it barely uses any resources and barely takes any room up on your computer
CPU usage before ARC is installed 20%
CPU usage when ARC is installed 100%
CPU usage after ARC is uninstalled 20%
So yeah, you're right ARC is using absolutely no resources what so ever :rolleyes:
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All of that to get to the Khan outfit, select it, and find that it's not really available once I switch back to the regular Mac client.
So how many gigabytes and hours did I just waste to your corporate greed?
As you can see from branflakes post ARC is not MAC compatable at this moment.
So it's true what they say, that MAC are much safer than PC, free from virus, spyware etc? I'll be darn'd. :P
Your "greed" not theirs... :rolleyes:
Steam, Origin, UPlay are more then enough of this Kind of Software so put STO on on of this ... its already on Steam so no need for Arc
And if i later have to use Arc or Steam because the only with Cryptic Laucher, STO might not work anymore i will use my Steam Version of STO. I dont like any other Arc Game and never will.
And i made a 2nd STO Acc to test the new Outfit 1. before i login with my main Acc.
Because it dont looks the good the new Khan outfit.
Errr ... thanks for your concern , but when I feel like I and the rest of the players are being manipulated into installing Arc via this "promo" , then my feedback goes to this promo .
So my solution, I unplugged all my drives, got an old hard drive, gave it a few formats and installed basic WinXP SP2. All it needed was a graphics driver and a copy of my game files and I was done. Now the drive sits in a draw ready in case it is ever needed again, I hope PWE enjoys the mountains of personal info it gains from a clean windows install.
they said, day one when they introduced arc that there was going to be promotions that will be arc exclusive. I for one like arc, I can log on instantly and i get the news as soon as my comps on, never have to go onto my internet unless i really want to. then again i don't play any other mmo.
Fed: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=780321
RR: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=12150781#post12150781
KDF: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=784941
If you have feedback relating to ARC itself, then it belongs on the feedback thread. As for being manipulated. No one is being manipulated to do anything, we are all free to do as we please, like you choose to play STO or not, we choose to play STO through ARC or Steam, or stand alone launcher.
Me too I have posted my feedback on the thread deicated to ARC.
I installed arc, grab the unif and uninstalled after it
now you jsut need to come up with free stuff every week to make me use arc regularly
or givem e 100zen each month+ for using it
No way are you really thinking we are that dumb. To those that took the offer because of the uniform, ha ha you gonna regret it (Junk mail, TARGETED advertising, details syphoned and sold to the highest bidder, surfing habits and history logged and pawed over and analysed ) !!!!
Do you have proof of that?
What I mean is merge all uniforms into one, so players can mix and match and give us more options.
this is a good idea and Dev really should think about it
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As much as I want to be cynical and agree with you, this is just not true.
Before you install Arc, there's a legal agreement which most people skip over, if you go and actually read it, it does mention the data it collects, and it only collects data from WITHIN the program, there's no mention of them collecting data from your use other software or services, so if they were doing this they'd be doing it in violation to the U.S. Computer Fraud and Abuse Act or as in my home country, the U.K.'s Computer Misuse Act, which no indemnity clause can overturn. Frankly PWE aren't that stupid, if they were collecting private data from your pc or browser they'd mention it.
i got 182 Games in Steam, i have ONE in Arc... why should i use that? there is just no point to it. And i can have all the PWE games in Steam for all i care...
Not noticing Arc doing anything hinky so far. Antivirus/malware software up-to-date and running nicely, no permissions granted to Arc, Not much going on in Arc that interests me but honestly not seeing the bad yet. I'll keep it for a week and see how I feel then.
Jo Cox 22.6.1974 - 16.6.2016
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You really think there's a choice? ARC isn't an idea they are kicking around and seeing if people like it or want it, you will be forced to use ARC to access STO sometime in the near future and you don't think that's being manipulated?
U cant. I cant put my usual off duty outfit in my female character and add the khan boots using, for example, a skirt in the lower part of the body. Thats not possible, for example. But well, its free so, whatsoever.
99.9% of users downloaded ARC during the freebie period
After the freebie period 0.001% of users logged in using ARC.
So as long as everyone uninstall's it then hopefully the message that people don't want it will get through
Hey, PWE, instead of wasting time and effort on arc, please fix the bugs in STO and maybe assign a team of devs to make sure STO is ready to use the new Steam controller when Valve's Steambox platform launches this year. I'm sure many of us would like to play STO from the comfort of our living room and HDTV.
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
guess in your country they dont have long enough hdmi cables to connect your pc to tv or some other big screen in your living room
You have no idea what you are talking about. One not everyone visits the forums or post on the forums. ARC works fine, is not a resource hog like people, it barely uses any resources and barely takes any room up on your computer
Actually, when comparing it to the superior platform that Arc is copying (Steam), it does.
Arc uses 8 times the memory, has 2 or more processes (Steam has 1) and also attempts to install plugins to your browsers....
As shady unified launcher programs go, Arc is up there with Origin and makes even that program look like roses and sunshine.
Some people do not have highend gaming systems, and barely beat the minimum requirements. Those people have a legitimate reason to complain as to why Arc needs so many resources....
It does *nothing* that cannot already be done with existing software. I think that qualifies as "bloatware" in my book.
No really, my initial reaction on starting it up for the first time was bewilderment; had I started steam by mistake? No. Arc looks, feels and does everything steam does, other than give access to the huge catalogue of games available on steam. One of which is STO.
So tell me again, why do we/I need/want arc?
The only bloatware is what you think. ARC is not bloatware. If you want bloatware go install Steam.
CPU usage before ARC is installed 20%
CPU usage when ARC is installed 100%
CPU usage after ARC is uninstalled 20%
So yeah, you're right ARC is using absolutely no resources what so ever :rolleyes:
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