And it seems the prerequisites to join your fan club are:
1. Spawn camp in C'n'H, and encourage it of others.
2. Use broken skills and mechanics.
3. When said broken skills become unusable, such as FAW not crit'ing, find something else.
4. When someone else is better at using said broken skills, create a rage quit forum post.
5. After announcing they're quitting from PvP in a public forum, return to PvP less than 12 hours later.
Seems about accurate.
Wouldn't it be more logical to:
1. Study 'broken' skills and mechanics just long enough to learn every weakness they have.
2. Build a counter exploiting every single aforementioned weakness.
3. Profit.
Oh... wait.... logic, my bad, that has no place here. :rolleyes:
Whatever happened to adapting the build as the need arises?
Why is everyone so dead focused on having the flavor of the month for primary use?
Why does nobody simply build a counter? I have. It is better to be able to beat the flavor of the month than to use it, humbly. In doing so, one has a massive tactical advantage, as your build is literally made to take out the build a majority of the player base is using.
Why is everyone so quick to scream 'hax' at being beaten in PVP instead of examining why they were beaten and how to improve the build/play/tactics to succeed?
Sorry, rhetorical questions, it is just frustrating to see such an utterly immature mentality so widespread in this game.
Wouldn't it be more logical to:
1. Study 'broken' skills and mechanics just long enough to learn every weakness they have.
2. Build a counter exploiting every single aforementioned weakness.
3. Profit.
Oh... wait.... logic, my bad, that has no place here. :rolleyes:
Whatever happened to adapting the build as the need arises?
Why is everyone so dead focused on having the flavor of the month for primary use?
Why does nobody simply build a counter? I have. It is better to be able to beat the flavor of the month than to use it, humbly. In doing so, one has a massive tactical advantage, as your build is literally made to take out the build a majority of the player base is using.
Why is everyone so quick to scream 'hax' at being beaten in PVP instead of examining why they were beaten and how to improve the build/play/tactics to succeed?
Sorry, rhetorical questions, it is just frustrating to see such an utterly immature mentality so widespread in this game.
Logic, huh. When you create a counter then you have players, such as Zelda here, complaining that use of such counters to their broken skills is "cheese". For example, using Feedback Pulse to counter FAW when it was crit'ing like crazy. It's truly this game's "no-win scenario".
Logic, huh. When you create a counter then you have players, such as Zelda here, complaining that use of such counters to their broken skills is "cheese". For example, using Feedback Pulse to counter FAW when it was crit'ing like crazy. It's truly this game's "no-win scenario".
This just goes back to what I said. It's not a game mechanic issue, it's a playerbase one.
Nothing stops him from countering the counter.
In this case, simply giving up one of his 'broken' A2B for an A2D, or EPTW for EPTE, and GTFO. Or simply pop RSP and HE, which amounts to laughing as firing on the FP fills ones shields to max.
Instead, they come here and make a stink so that their notion of 'broken' is heard by the devs, and nerfed(or in the case of FAW, after multiple 'tweaks' to 'nerf' it, is now admitted as broken beyond measure by the devs to the point the devs need to rewrite it in whole), instead of using strategy and tactics to win, nerf everything they don't like to oblivion.
About that logic....... yeah....... I do see rare gems from specific people on these forums and in-game, but most often on these forums I hear the screams of 'hax' 'OP' 'cheese' for valid game mechanics that have existed for quite some time, and have valid counters, which are then called the same in return.
'Wake up call, paging raging must-win fanbois: It's just a game, and in PVP somebody has to lose. Learning from your losses would be wise instead of assuming 'hax'.'
For have success in pvp, u need run all that cause it will be not playable and u will not enjoy the game if u make a 5 man team and go to the queu !
just want to know how you could even complain about anything in this game......as a player your not even that great. you had to go to extreams rom in a bug with placates just to get a kill............
so really you should make a post about you your self as a player and nova core as a fleet. all the things you think are trash you fleet uses.........
well ya but we have to adapt now , all i have seen in the queu today was ppl using tyken rift , and some premade are staking that to get a kill , i even tested my eng recluse in pug match vs premade, with the power drain resist and power insulator skill got no power at all even lost my shield ! its a bit too strong ,
LMAO!!!!!!!!!! insulators.........dident people figure out that skilling eps in skill tree is a big reason tykens can hurt you? wow tykens is a bad skill even after the buff. dude you complain about everything that kills you!!!!!!!!
get real man. you expect people to "play clean" yet you cant do that. tykens, gw, faw, dem. what else do you want nerfed dude? all legit skills? you even whine over a2b. go figure another play that refuses to watch buffs. 1v1 and you alpha against a target with omega and tt up. LMAO
LMAO!!!!!!!!!! insulators.........dident people figure out that skilling eps in skill tree is a big reason tykens can hurt you? wow tykens is a bad skill even after the buff. dude you complain about everything that kills you!!!!!!!!
get real man. you expect people to "play clean" yet you cant do that. tykens, gw, faw, dem. what else do you want nerfed dude? all legit skills? you even whine over a2b. go figure another play that refuses to watch buffs. 1v1 and you alpha against a target with omega and tt up. LMAO
lol hater :P i must say got do your lesson and lurn to play , cause i won all my duel
[System] Link has been on active duty for 415 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, 16 seconds.
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
The correct term for spawn camping is deployment supression. If either side gets pushed back to their deployment point stop respawning because you already lost. Plus I need to finish my turret killed mission. To be successful in sto PvP you have to be able to adapt. And zelda is one of the best at adapting.
Wouldn't it be more logical to:
1. Study 'broken' skills and mechanics just long enough to learn every weakness they have.
2. Build a counter exploiting every single aforementioned weakness.
3. Profit.
Oh... wait.... logic, my bad, that has no place here. :rolleyes:
Whatever happened to adapting the build as the need arises?
Why is everyone so dead focused on having the flavor of the month for primary use?
Why does nobody simply build a counter? I have. It is better to be able to beat the flavor of the month than to use it, humbly. In doing so, one has a massive tactical advantage, as your build is literally made to take out the build a majority of the player base is using.
Why is everyone so quick to scream 'hax' at being beaten in PVP instead of examining why they were beaten and how to improve the build/play/tactics to succeed?
Sorry, rhetorical questions, it is just frustrating to see such an utterly immature mentality so widespread in this game.
At Beautiful Orions, life is beautiful!!
Our leader promotes nothing but goodwill towards us and rewards us well with promotions and access to great gear for nothing more than one rule: "Punish the FEDS."
We are at war; seems to make sense to me
And if Zelda exploits something or any of our clan does, it is because the Feds did it first and, as one commenter said, "at a much higher level," and think they are cool :P as they call us everything in the book since they won a match against our unreped toons. I'd like to see this higher level
Point in being is we at Beautiful Orions have a great house with active members and a great leader, Zelda, who promotes nothing more than the game itself, war with the feds. If anyone exploits at our house it is only in defense and to return the game to equality.
And if you go around copying and pasting everything, I imagine Zelda could be a fairly from Woodland. So that alone kinda tells you the types of ppl trying to defame our leader. Lowly ones!! Regardle HOBO rules!! And so does Zelda. Suck it up buttercups!!
just want to know how you could even complain about anything in this game......as a player your not even that great. you had to go to extreams rom in a bug with placates just to get a kill............
clam down and enjoy this games joke of pvp.
I love this post. I like how people in jem bugs with placate or rom placate think they're good. LOL they suck. If you need all that to win, you're garbage. I don't care how good they think they are. Using rom placate or Jem bug = You're a loser that need the strongest everything to win...
PVP in this game is the biggest joke I ever seen. "black cloud console", Aux to battery, Orion interceptors, Rom T4 placate skill, elachi weapons, ETC. Most of that TRIBBLE need to be completely removed. It would be a step in the right direction. Thankfully I use none of that TRIBBLE, so I'm better than those that do. Even if I lose.
Using all broken TRIBBLE is not the answer... At all...
The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
lol hater :P i must say got do your lesson and lurn to play , cause i won all my duel
i used too pwn you 24/7 till you went all lame and got placate t4 and use of a rom. go back to your old regular fed toon with no placates and die 24/7. get over it link
[System] Link has been on active duty for 415 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, 16 seconds.
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!! insulators.........dident people figure out that skilling eps in skill tree is a big reason tykens can hurt you? wow tykens is a bad skill even after the buff. dude you complain about everything that kills you!!!!!!!!
get real man. you expect people to "play clean" yet you cant do that. tykens, gw, faw, dem. what else do you want nerfed dude? all legit skills? you even whine over a2b. go figure another play that refuses to watch buffs. 1v1 and you alpha against a target with omega and tt up. LMAO
so you know all broken stuffs .I see you listed them .
every power /debuff needs to have a counter.When you list them like a true captain kirk people expect you know the counters for them.
They only forgot to add doffs that allow sci ships and escorts to get all powers on global cooldown .Im sure they will add them or nerf the tech doffs ...one or the other.
Dam Zelda I thought I kill as many people as you do, you must be doing some fed killing on the side to get all this hate... hehe,hoho,hihi,huhu,haha and hqhq
Lol...I've two words for ya...evul Klinguns!
And, really, House of Beautiful Orions is the most evul Fleet of all the entire KDF...but sometimes we Feds call you...House of Beautiful Hax!:P
lol :P
[System] Link has been on active duty for 415 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, 16 seconds.
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
This gives me an idea for an episode chain on the Gates of Stovokor podcast.
House of Beautiful Orions I would like to create an episode of GoS centered around your fleet and its hatred of the feds.
Zelda, if you could contact me @Roach ingame so I can send you a list of questions I would really apreciate it.
and why am i a 10 year old kid? you act just as stupid as i do...........and the fact you cant admit why you get kills now is plain stupid. you cry about everything thats lame yet you use abusive TRIBBLE too. so get off your high horse.
and why am i a 10 year old kid? you act just as stupid as i do...........and the fact you cant admit why you get kills now is plain stupid. you cry about everything thats lame yet you use abusive TRIBBLE too. so get off your high horse.
you dont even see what im taling on this thread , u just here to try to troll....
[System] Link has been on active duty for 415 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, 16 seconds.
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
For have success in pvp, u need run all that cause it will be not playable and u will not enjoy the game if u make a 5 man team and go to the queu !
-- talken rift is very efficient, blow all ur power even if u have full skill into power insulator ! plus it stack omg !
-- vaper : ppl who kill veteran pvp player under a sec without give to the target the time to react cause of the big crits that have no sens lol and the only way to counter that is all your teamate SCI captain need have that console (Console - Universal - Tachyon Detection Field) and the sad thing is : THE KDF CANT GET THAT CONSOLE so good luck to the kdf premade !
-- yellowstone pets .. never been fixed , they plocate ! wow
-- Fire at will , when it will be fixed, u will see ppl using scimitar with 80k DPS (escort do only around 20 k dps with a cannon build)
i hope one day pvp in sto will come back like how it was in season 5 , it was alote much better then it is now , and many more player was playing the game ,I DONT KNOW WHY but alote of veteran pvper have left the game !!!
so i think im gonna stay AWAY from pvp except if all my teamate run all the thing ppl call cheese !
PS: for the cusual pvper enjoy ur rage quit
Good God your spelling man!! Minus 500 000 points from Griffindore!!!
Good God your spelling man!! Minus 500 000 points from Griffindore!!!
well i think its understandable , seriously ..
[System] Link has been on active duty for 415 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, 16 seconds.
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
2 pages of whine-moan-groan, intolerably horrific spelling and grammar, more screams of 'hax' 'cheese', and the 'almighty' Atlantra 'if you use XYZ, you have no skill, even if it is a valid counter to what it is I do, just because it is a valid counter to what I do'.
Then again, Atlantra seems quite fond of 1-hit KO's with gravity wells. As if that takes skill. lol, avoiding them takes more skill by far than using them.
Frankly, if you can't kill a player that uses rom t4 placate, just because of that placate, YOU have no skill.
It takes skill to do that, unlike mashing space.
I truly regret even bothering TRYING to make you see how much of a whiney 'waaaah but I want to WIN!' attitude you have.
Thank you for the single KDF that actually read and got it.
The rest? GROW UP. It's a game.
What you call cheese and hax are game mechanics and strategy. Adapt and win, or moan and continue to rage-post in the forums. I no longer care.
Quite obviously trying to explain to the immature individuals here about strategy and counters is a waste of my time, all you want to hear is 'nerf everything I don't use so that I can WIN'.
YOU are what kills PVP in this game. The playerbase. Even TD is full of 'don't use this, because I cannot be bothered to learn how to counter it'. Like that helps anyone learn valid counters, or increase their skill.
The most fun I have in PVP is seeing a new 'trick' and having to account for it. Did all the PVE carebears suddenly come PVP, or what? Does nobody want a challenge anymore, with 'I WIN' being the only goal?
If that's the case, why even bother to queue? Go beat up a fleetmate with no equipment. Guaranteed win. And the game doesn't get nerfed to oblivion for your lack of sportsmanship.
The only thing that is 'really' OP in this game is teamwork, as in every other game.
Oh, and the fact the devs will listen to you and throw out nerf after nerf. No other game gets this kind of mechanic mangling due to player whining, enjoy it while you can, as you actively kill the game with it.
You have already stolen every unique thing the Klingons had with Fed whining. Why am I not surprised that that did not make Feds happy.... "Klingons are OP!!!!!' No, it was teamwork, they had to grind out 30 levels on nothing but PVP and you are surprised they had better teamwork?
Those of you under 18 need adult supervision, obviously. Those of you over 18 need to get a life. It's just a game, and it has absolutely 0 bearing on reality, win or lose.
you dont even see what im taling on this thread , u just here to try to troll....
troll????? all your post of this is op thats op is troll. you thinking your a good player or that you even know game mechanics is troll. your cancer that just grows every time you post a topic. good example is your "proof" how op faw is when your dps gets higher when you have more then one target........ i could not even believe you did not even understand why. also loved how you would say in karret "hey noobs when faw gets nerfed your going to suck again"
lol faw dont crit yet you still get owned 1v1 by faw. its pressure damage. its going to take your shields off. what happens when you have no shields? even if faw was critting its still balanced wise. its why as a team you need to cross heal and hand out tact teams to team mates. not smash space bar and having tt trigger off. its why you get poped so much. you have no tt so me and a team mate cannon burst you. if you want to create topics of this is op thats op then take off the TRIBBLE your using. that t4 placate alone saves you against a person thats not using it. so dont be such a hypocrite.
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And it seems the prerequisites to join your fan club are:
1. Spawn camp in C'n'H, and encourage it of others.
2. Use broken skills and mechanics.
3. When said broken skills become unusable, such as FAW not crit'ing, find something else.
4. When someone else is better at using said broken skills, create a rage quit forum post.
5. After announcing they're quitting from PvP in a public forum, return to PvP less than 12 hours later.
Seems about accurate.
1. Study 'broken' skills and mechanics just long enough to learn every weakness they have.
2. Build a counter exploiting every single aforementioned weakness.
3. Profit.
Oh... wait.... logic, my bad, that has no place here. :rolleyes:
Whatever happened to adapting the build as the need arises?
Why is everyone so dead focused on having the flavor of the month for primary use?
Why does nobody simply build a counter? I have. It is better to be able to beat the flavor of the month than to use it, humbly. In doing so, one has a massive tactical advantage, as your build is literally made to take out the build a majority of the player base is using.
Why is everyone so quick to scream 'hax' at being beaten in PVP instead of examining why they were beaten and how to improve the build/play/tactics to succeed?
Sorry, rhetorical questions, it is just frustrating to see such an utterly immature mentality so widespread in this game.
Logic, huh. When you create a counter then you have players, such as Zelda here, complaining that use of such counters to their broken skills is "cheese". For example, using Feedback Pulse to counter FAW when it was crit'ing like crazy. It's truly this game's "no-win scenario".
This just goes back to what I said. It's not a game mechanic issue, it's a playerbase one.
Nothing stops him from countering the counter.
In this case, simply giving up one of his 'broken' A2B for an A2D, or EPTW for EPTE, and GTFO. Or simply pop RSP and HE, which amounts to laughing as firing on the FP fills ones shields to max.
Instead, they come here and make a stink so that their notion of 'broken' is heard by the devs, and nerfed(or in the case of FAW, after multiple 'tweaks' to 'nerf' it, is now admitted as broken beyond measure by the devs to the point the devs need to rewrite it in whole), instead of using strategy and tactics to win, nerf everything they don't like to oblivion.
About that logic....... yeah....... I do see rare gems from specific people on these forums and in-game, but most often on these forums I hear the screams of 'hax' 'OP' 'cheese' for valid game mechanics that have existed for quite some time, and have valid counters, which are then called the same in return.
'Wake up call, paging raging must-win fanbois: It's just a game, and in PVP somebody has to lose. Learning from your losses would be wise instead of assuming 'hax'.'
Heh, I can't comment on point 1 because I don't do C'n'H, but the other points are him to a tee.
just want to know how you could even complain about anything in this game......as a player your not even that great. you had to go to extreams rom in a bug with placates just to get a kill............
so really you should make a post about you your self as a player and nova core as a fleet. all the things you think are trash you fleet uses.........
clam down and enjoy this games joke of pvp.
get real man. you expect people to "play clean" yet you cant do that. tykens, gw, faw, dem. what else do you want nerfed dude? all legit skills? you even whine over a2b. go figure another play that refuses to watch buffs. 1v1 and you alpha against a target with omega and tt up. LMAO
lol hater :P i must say got do your lesson and lurn to play , cause i won all my duel
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
French Canadian
Our leader promotes nothing but goodwill towards us and rewards us well with promotions and access to great gear for nothing more than one rule: "Punish the FEDS."
We are at war; seems to make sense to me
And if Zelda exploits something or any of our clan does, it is because the Feds did it first and, as one commenter said, "at a much higher level," and think they are cool :P as they call us everything in the book since they won a match against our unreped toons. I'd like to see this higher level
Point in being is we at Beautiful Orions have a great house with active members and a great leader, Zelda, who promotes nothing more than the game itself, war with the feds. If anyone exploits at our house it is only in defense and to return the game to equality.
And if you go around copying and pasting everything, I imagine Zelda could be a fairly from Woodland. So that alone kinda tells you the types of ppl trying to defame our leader. Lowly ones!! Regardle HOBO rules!! And so does Zelda. Suck it up buttercups!!
I love this post. I like how people in jem bugs with placate or rom placate think they're good. LOL they suck. If you need all that to win, you're garbage. I don't care how good they think they are. Using rom placate or Jem bug = You're a loser that need the strongest everything to win...
PVP in this game is the biggest joke I ever seen. "black cloud console", Aux to battery, Orion interceptors, Rom T4 placate skill, elachi weapons, ETC. Most of that TRIBBLE need to be completely removed. It would be a step in the right direction. Thankfully I use none of that TRIBBLE, so I'm better than those that do. Even if I lose.
Using all broken TRIBBLE is not the answer... At all...
i used too pwn you 24/7 till you went all lame and got placate t4 and use of a rom. go back to your old regular fed toon with no placates and die 24/7. get over it link
Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
man ur unknow, ... probably a 10 year old kid
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
French Canadian
so you know all broken stuffs .I see you listed them .
every power /debuff needs to have a counter.When you list them like a true captain kirk people expect you know the counters for them.
They only forgot to add doffs that allow sci ships and escorts to get all powers on global cooldown .Im sure they will add them or nerf the tech doffs ...one or the other.
lol :P
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
French Canadian
Thank youyou
I think most people would rather be unknown than a known, and seemingly self-confessed, user of broken skills and game mechanics, no?
House of Beautiful Orions I would like to create an episode of GoS centered around your fleet and its hatred of the feds.
Zelda, if you could contact me @Roach ingame so I can send you a list of questions I would really apreciate it.
R.I.P
and why am i a 10 year old kid? you act just as stupid as i do...........and the fact you cant admit why you get kills now is plain stupid. you cry about everything thats lame yet you use abusive TRIBBLE too. so get off your high horse.
you dont even see what im taling on this thread , u just here to try to troll....
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
French Canadian
Yeah have something alright, but I seriously doubt a fan club. :rolleyes:
Good God your spelling man!! Minus 500 000 points from Griffindore!!!
well i think its understandable , seriously ..
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
French Canadian
Then again, Atlantra seems quite fond of 1-hit KO's with gravity wells. As if that takes skill. lol, avoiding them takes more skill by far than using them.
Frankly, if you can't kill a player that uses rom t4 placate, just because of that placate, YOU have no skill.
It takes skill to do that, unlike mashing space.
I truly regret even bothering TRYING to make you see how much of a whiney 'waaaah but I want to WIN!' attitude you have.
Thank you for the single KDF that actually read and got it.
The rest? GROW UP. It's a game.
What you call cheese and hax are game mechanics and strategy. Adapt and win, or moan and continue to rage-post in the forums. I no longer care.
Quite obviously trying to explain to the immature individuals here about strategy and counters is a waste of my time, all you want to hear is 'nerf everything I don't use so that I can WIN'.
YOU are what kills PVP in this game. The playerbase. Even TD is full of 'don't use this, because I cannot be bothered to learn how to counter it'. Like that helps anyone learn valid counters, or increase their skill.
The most fun I have in PVP is seeing a new 'trick' and having to account for it. Did all the PVE carebears suddenly come PVP, or what? Does nobody want a challenge anymore, with 'I WIN' being the only goal?
If that's the case, why even bother to queue? Go beat up a fleetmate with no equipment. Guaranteed win. And the game doesn't get nerfed to oblivion for your lack of sportsmanship.
The only thing that is 'really' OP in this game is teamwork, as in every other game.
Oh, and the fact the devs will listen to you and throw out nerf after nerf. No other game gets this kind of mechanic mangling due to player whining, enjoy it while you can, as you actively kill the game with it.
You have already stolen every unique thing the Klingons had with Fed whining. Why am I not surprised that that did not make Feds happy.... "Klingons are OP!!!!!' No, it was teamwork, they had to grind out 30 levels on nothing but PVP and you are surprised they had better teamwork?
Those of you under 18 need adult supervision, obviously. Those of you over 18 need to get a life. It's just a game, and it has absolutely 0 bearing on reality, win or lose.
troll????? all your post of this is op thats op is troll. you thinking your a good player or that you even know game mechanics is troll. your cancer that just grows every time you post a topic. good example is your "proof" how op faw is when your dps gets higher when you have more then one target........ i could not even believe you did not even understand why. also loved how you would say in karret "hey noobs when faw gets nerfed your going to suck again"
lol faw dont crit yet you still get owned 1v1 by faw. its pressure damage. its going to take your shields off. what happens when you have no shields? even if faw was critting its still balanced wise. its why as a team you need to cross heal and hand out tact teams to team mates. not smash space bar and having tt trigger off. its why you get poped so much. you have no tt so me and a team mate cannon burst you. if you want to create topics of this is op thats op then take off the TRIBBLE your using. that t4 placate alone saves you against a person thats not using it. so dont be such a hypocrite.