Yeah to be honest if your power is hitting 0 quicker than you can react one or a few things are happening:
1) You have no power insulators.
2) There is a lot of drains being stacked on you by one or more people.
3) You're running low power to a subsystem like aux or engines which you needed to GTFO.
4) You're asleep in which case *clap clap* WAKE UP!
However to be honest I would much rather talk about the other games brought up. Love counterstrike, even though you get embarrassingly curbstomped by the pros you kinda know its skill, you know they've spent months learning the precise timing for when a scoping in becomes more accurate, what common tactics are, the fire rates and how many shots it takes to kill someone in which part of the body.
Ah I do like online FPS, people might look down on it and think its full of bro-gamers and T-bagging halo fanboys but there's more to it and 99% of the time it's skill that got the kill not some form of UI lag that put everything on cool down or didn't activate abilities etc.
I'll start with the boring bit.
I am nearly maxed out PI side and the the obvious stuff that comes with extra points.
I'm running W=125+
S=60
E=89
A= is 45-49 (tac escort but boosted by batteries)
I have plas leech so all of that boosts up anyhow.
It's only really become bad since the Voth stuff turned up.
CoD was ok when it first came out but has just turned into a pretty mindless twitch game, you don't even need to aim half the time.
As well as bf4, I've been battering ARMA3, now that is a freakin hard game, genuinely requires a fair chunk of skill to be anywhere near half decent.
Be interesting to see how many others dare venture from STO to play games where you can't win by being richer or carry more spam and cheese.
Games where macro keys don't work
Hopefully GTA5 comes out on PC this year. Gives me something else to play, something a little less hardcore.
I'll start with the boring bit.
I am nearly maxed out PI side and the the obvious stuff that comes with extra points.
I'm running W=125+
S=60
E=89
A= is 45-49 (tac escort but boosted by batteries)
I have plas leech so all of that boosts up anyhow.
It's only really become bad since the Voth stuff turned up.
As far as I can tell, the Aceton Mode console has no counter to its drain. HE doesn't work, but people try anyway. I use it to draw the Hazards before I start the real drain. If that doesn't work I drop some Warp Poo or Theta or both or hit some TBR's anything to try and draw that hazards out so I can nuke it and then start the drain. Timing is everything, if you're being caught with your pants down and drained to nothing, I'd say it was skill on the part of the drainer as well... just knowing exactly when to do it for max effect.
You're complaining .. yet weren't you in a Scimmy using FAW when it was(is) broken and crit'ing out the wazoo? And yet, since it no longer crits and is no longer broken to your benefit, you no longer use it? Kinda makes your complaining a bit redundant, no?
I don't understand why people create threads complaining about broken skills when they've used the same broken skills they're complaining about to their own advantage in PvP for so long, e.g. FAW. You know there's a word for that...? Hypocrisy!
Also, I'm sick of these players calling out skills or builds that they deem to be "cheese". If they're really so bad then why do you continue to copy these supposedly "cheese" builds? I mean, Link complained about tractor beam repulsors and then went and used the skill (albeit poorly) in PvP himself! haha
Yeah, I agree, someone needs a personal invite to PVP Bootcamp for a thread like this... now where is that guy that caught cancer from this thread...MEEEEDDDIICCC!:D
yay, i have a fan club
[System] Link has been on active duty for 415 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, 16 seconds.
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
And it seems the prerequisites to join your fan club are:
1. Spawn camp in C'n'H, and encourage it of others.
2. Use broken skills and mechanics.
3. When said broken skills become unusable, such as FAW not crit'ing, find something else.
4. When someone else is better at using said broken skills, create a rage quit forum post.
5. After announcing they're quitting from PvP in a public forum, return to PvP less than 12 hours later.
Seems about accurate.
Wouldn't it be more logical to:
1. Study 'broken' skills and mechanics just long enough to learn every weakness they have.
2. Build a counter exploiting every single aforementioned weakness.
3. Profit.
Oh... wait.... logic, my bad, that has no place here. :rolleyes:
Whatever happened to adapting the build as the need arises?
Why is everyone so dead focused on having the flavor of the month for primary use?
Why does nobody simply build a counter? I have. It is better to be able to beat the flavor of the month than to use it, humbly. In doing so, one has a massive tactical advantage, as your build is literally made to take out the build a majority of the player base is using.
Why is everyone so quick to scream 'hax' at being beaten in PVP instead of examining why they were beaten and how to improve the build/play/tactics to succeed?
Sorry, rhetorical questions, it is just frustrating to see such an utterly immature mentality so widespread in this game.
Wouldn't it be more logical to:
1. Study 'broken' skills and mechanics just long enough to learn every weakness they have.
2. Build a counter exploiting every single aforementioned weakness.
3. Profit.
Oh... wait.... logic, my bad, that has no place here. :rolleyes:
Whatever happened to adapting the build as the need arises?
Why is everyone so dead focused on having the flavor of the month for primary use?
Why does nobody simply build a counter? I have. It is better to be able to beat the flavor of the month than to use it, humbly. In doing so, one has a massive tactical advantage, as your build is literally made to take out the build a majority of the player base is using.
Why is everyone so quick to scream 'hax' at being beaten in PVP instead of examining why they were beaten and how to improve the build/play/tactics to succeed?
Sorry, rhetorical questions, it is just frustrating to see such an utterly immature mentality so widespread in this game.
Logic, huh. When you create a counter then you have players, such as Zelda here, complaining that use of such counters to their broken skills is "cheese". For example, using Feedback Pulse to counter FAW when it was crit'ing like crazy. It's truly this game's "no-win scenario".
Logic, huh. When you create a counter then you have players, such as Zelda here, complaining that use of such counters to their broken skills is "cheese". For example, using Feedback Pulse to counter FAW when it was crit'ing like crazy. It's truly this game's "no-win scenario".
This just goes back to what I said. It's not a game mechanic issue, it's a playerbase one.
Nothing stops him from countering the counter.
In this case, simply giving up one of his 'broken' A2B for an A2D, or EPTW for EPTE, and GTFO. Or simply pop RSP and HE, which amounts to laughing as firing on the FP fills ones shields to max.
Instead, they come here and make a stink so that their notion of 'broken' is heard by the devs, and nerfed(or in the case of FAW, after multiple 'tweaks' to 'nerf' it, is now admitted as broken beyond measure by the devs to the point the devs need to rewrite it in whole), instead of using strategy and tactics to win, nerf everything they don't like to oblivion.
About that logic....... yeah....... I do see rare gems from specific people on these forums and in-game, but most often on these forums I hear the screams of 'hax' 'OP' 'cheese' for valid game mechanics that have existed for quite some time, and have valid counters, which are then called the same in return.
'Wake up call, paging raging must-win fanbois: It's just a game, and in PVP somebody has to lose. Learning from your losses would be wise instead of assuming 'hax'.'
For have success in pvp, u need run all that cause it will be not playable and u will not enjoy the game if u make a 5 man team and go to the queu !
just want to know how you could even complain about anything in this game......as a player your not even that great. you had to go to extreams rom in a bug with placates just to get a kill............
so really you should make a post about you your self as a player and nova core as a fleet. all the things you think are trash you fleet uses.........
well ya but we have to adapt now , all i have seen in the queu today was ppl using tyken rift , and some premade are staking that to get a kill , i even tested my eng recluse in pug match vs premade, with the power drain resist and power insulator skill got no power at all even lost my shield ! its a bit too strong ,
LMAO!!!!!!!!!! insulators.........dident people figure out that skilling eps in skill tree is a big reason tykens can hurt you? wow tykens is a bad skill even after the buff. dude you complain about everything that kills you!!!!!!!!
get real man. you expect people to "play clean" yet you cant do that. tykens, gw, faw, dem. what else do you want nerfed dude? all legit skills? you even whine over a2b. go figure another play that refuses to watch buffs. 1v1 and you alpha against a target with omega and tt up. LMAO
LMAO!!!!!!!!!! insulators.........dident people figure out that skilling eps in skill tree is a big reason tykens can hurt you? wow tykens is a bad skill even after the buff. dude you complain about everything that kills you!!!!!!!!
get real man. you expect people to "play clean" yet you cant do that. tykens, gw, faw, dem. what else do you want nerfed dude? all legit skills? you even whine over a2b. go figure another play that refuses to watch buffs. 1v1 and you alpha against a target with omega and tt up. LMAO
lol hater :P i must say got do your lesson and lurn to play , cause i won all my duel
[System] Link has been on active duty for 415 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, 16 seconds.
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
The correct term for spawn camping is deployment supression. If either side gets pushed back to their deployment point stop respawning because you already lost. Plus I need to finish my turret killed mission. To be successful in sto PvP you have to be able to adapt. And zelda is one of the best at adapting.
Wouldn't it be more logical to:
1. Study 'broken' skills and mechanics just long enough to learn every weakness they have.
2. Build a counter exploiting every single aforementioned weakness.
3. Profit.
Oh... wait.... logic, my bad, that has no place here. :rolleyes:
Whatever happened to adapting the build as the need arises?
Why is everyone so dead focused on having the flavor of the month for primary use?
Why does nobody simply build a counter? I have. It is better to be able to beat the flavor of the month than to use it, humbly. In doing so, one has a massive tactical advantage, as your build is literally made to take out the build a majority of the player base is using.
Why is everyone so quick to scream 'hax' at being beaten in PVP instead of examining why they were beaten and how to improve the build/play/tactics to succeed?
Sorry, rhetorical questions, it is just frustrating to see such an utterly immature mentality so widespread in this game.
At Beautiful Orions, life is beautiful!!
Our leader promotes nothing but goodwill towards us and rewards us well with promotions and access to great gear for nothing more than one rule: "Punish the FEDS."
We are at war; seems to make sense to me
And if Zelda exploits something or any of our clan does, it is because the Feds did it first and, as one commenter said, "at a much higher level," and think they are cool :P as they call us everything in the book since they won a match against our unreped toons. I'd like to see this higher level
Point in being is we at Beautiful Orions have a great house with active members and a great leader, Zelda, who promotes nothing more than the game itself, war with the feds. If anyone exploits at our house it is only in defense and to return the game to equality.
And if you go around copying and pasting everything, I imagine Zelda could be a fairly from Woodland. So that alone kinda tells you the types of ppl trying to defame our leader. Lowly ones!! Regardle HOBO rules!! And so does Zelda. Suck it up buttercups!!
just want to know how you could even complain about anything in this game......as a player your not even that great. you had to go to extreams rom in a bug with placates just to get a kill............
clam down and enjoy this games joke of pvp.
I love this post. I like how people in jem bugs with placate or rom placate think they're good. LOL they suck. If you need all that to win, you're garbage. I don't care how good they think they are. Using rom placate or Jem bug = You're a loser that need the strongest everything to win...
PVP in this game is the biggest joke I ever seen. "black cloud console", Aux to battery, Orion interceptors, Rom T4 placate skill, elachi weapons, ETC. Most of that TRIBBLE need to be completely removed. It would be a step in the right direction. Thankfully I use none of that TRIBBLE, so I'm better than those that do. Even if I lose.
Using all broken TRIBBLE is not the answer... At all...
The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
lol hater :P i must say got do your lesson and lurn to play , cause i won all my duel
i used too pwn you 24/7 till you went all lame and got placate t4 and use of a rom. go back to your old regular fed toon with no placates and die 24/7. get over it link
[System] Link has been on active duty for 415 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, 16 seconds.
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!! insulators.........dident people figure out that skilling eps in skill tree is a big reason tykens can hurt you? wow tykens is a bad skill even after the buff. dude you complain about everything that kills you!!!!!!!!
get real man. you expect people to "play clean" yet you cant do that. tykens, gw, faw, dem. what else do you want nerfed dude? all legit skills? you even whine over a2b. go figure another play that refuses to watch buffs. 1v1 and you alpha against a target with omega and tt up. LMAO
so you know all broken stuffs .I see you listed them .
every power /debuff needs to have a counter.When you list them like a true captain kirk people expect you know the counters for them.
They only forgot to add doffs that allow sci ships and escorts to get all powers on global cooldown .Im sure they will add them or nerf the tech doffs ...one or the other.
Dam Zelda I thought I kill as many people as you do, you must be doing some fed killing on the side to get all this hate... hehe,hoho,hihi,huhu,haha and hqhq
Lol...I've two words for ya...evul Klinguns!
And, really, House of Beautiful Orions is the most evul Fleet of all the entire KDF...but sometimes we Feds call you...House of Beautiful Hax!:P
lol :P
[System] Link has been on active duty for 415 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, 16 seconds.
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
This gives me an idea for an episode chain on the Gates of Stovokor podcast.
House of Beautiful Orions I would like to create an episode of GoS centered around your fleet and its hatred of the feds.
Zelda, if you could contact me @Roach ingame so I can send you a list of questions I would really apreciate it.
and why am i a 10 year old kid? you act just as stupid as i do...........and the fact you cant admit why you get kills now is plain stupid. you cry about everything thats lame yet you use abusive TRIBBLE too. so get off your high horse.
Comments
1) You have no power insulators.
2) There is a lot of drains being stacked on you by one or more people.
3) You're running low power to a subsystem like aux or engines which you needed to GTFO.
4) You're asleep in which case *clap clap* WAKE UP!
However to be honest I would much rather talk about the other games brought up. Love counterstrike, even though you get embarrassingly curbstomped by the pros you kinda know its skill, you know they've spent months learning the precise timing for when a scoping in becomes more accurate, what common tactics are, the fire rates and how many shots it takes to kill someone in which part of the body.
Ah I do like online FPS, people might look down on it and think its full of bro-gamers and T-bagging halo fanboys but there's more to it and 99% of the time it's skill that got the kill not some form of UI lag that put everything on cool down or didn't activate abilities etc.
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.
I am nearly maxed out PI side and the the obvious stuff that comes with extra points.
I'm running W=125+
S=60
E=89
A= is 45-49 (tac escort but boosted by batteries)
I have plas leech so all of that boosts up anyhow.
It's only really become bad since the Voth stuff turned up.
CoD was ok when it first came out but has just turned into a pretty mindless twitch game, you don't even need to aim half the time.
As well as bf4, I've been battering ARMA3, now that is a freakin hard game, genuinely requires a fair chunk of skill to be anywhere near half decent.
Be interesting to see how many others dare venture from STO to play games where you can't win by being richer or carry more spam and cheese.
Games where macro keys don't work
Hopefully GTA5 comes out on PC this year. Gives me something else to play, something a little less hardcore.
As far as I can tell, the Aceton Mode console has no counter to its drain. HE doesn't work, but people try anyway. I use it to draw the Hazards before I start the real drain. If that doesn't work I drop some Warp Poo or Theta or both or hit some TBR's anything to try and draw that hazards out so I can nuke it and then start the drain. Timing is everything, if you're being caught with your pants down and drained to nothing, I'd say it was skill on the part of the drainer as well... just knowing exactly when to do it for max effect.
yay, i have a fan club
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
French Canadian
And it seems the prerequisites to join your fan club are:
1. Spawn camp in C'n'H, and encourage it of others.
2. Use broken skills and mechanics.
3. When said broken skills become unusable, such as FAW not crit'ing, find something else.
4. When someone else is better at using said broken skills, create a rage quit forum post.
5. After announcing they're quitting from PvP in a public forum, return to PvP less than 12 hours later.
Seems about accurate.
1. Study 'broken' skills and mechanics just long enough to learn every weakness they have.
2. Build a counter exploiting every single aforementioned weakness.
3. Profit.
Oh... wait.... logic, my bad, that has no place here. :rolleyes:
Whatever happened to adapting the build as the need arises?
Why is everyone so dead focused on having the flavor of the month for primary use?
Why does nobody simply build a counter? I have. It is better to be able to beat the flavor of the month than to use it, humbly. In doing so, one has a massive tactical advantage, as your build is literally made to take out the build a majority of the player base is using.
Why is everyone so quick to scream 'hax' at being beaten in PVP instead of examining why they were beaten and how to improve the build/play/tactics to succeed?
Sorry, rhetorical questions, it is just frustrating to see such an utterly immature mentality so widespread in this game.
Logic, huh. When you create a counter then you have players, such as Zelda here, complaining that use of such counters to their broken skills is "cheese". For example, using Feedback Pulse to counter FAW when it was crit'ing like crazy. It's truly this game's "no-win scenario".
This just goes back to what I said. It's not a game mechanic issue, it's a playerbase one.
Nothing stops him from countering the counter.
In this case, simply giving up one of his 'broken' A2B for an A2D, or EPTW for EPTE, and GTFO. Or simply pop RSP and HE, which amounts to laughing as firing on the FP fills ones shields to max.
Instead, they come here and make a stink so that their notion of 'broken' is heard by the devs, and nerfed(or in the case of FAW, after multiple 'tweaks' to 'nerf' it, is now admitted as broken beyond measure by the devs to the point the devs need to rewrite it in whole), instead of using strategy and tactics to win, nerf everything they don't like to oblivion.
About that logic....... yeah....... I do see rare gems from specific people on these forums and in-game, but most often on these forums I hear the screams of 'hax' 'OP' 'cheese' for valid game mechanics that have existed for quite some time, and have valid counters, which are then called the same in return.
'Wake up call, paging raging must-win fanbois: It's just a game, and in PVP somebody has to lose. Learning from your losses would be wise instead of assuming 'hax'.'
Heh, I can't comment on point 1 because I don't do C'n'H, but the other points are him to a tee.
just want to know how you could even complain about anything in this game......as a player your not even that great. you had to go to extreams rom in a bug with placates just to get a kill............
so really you should make a post about you your self as a player and nova core as a fleet. all the things you think are trash you fleet uses.........
clam down and enjoy this games joke of pvp.
get real man. you expect people to "play clean" yet you cant do that. tykens, gw, faw, dem. what else do you want nerfed dude? all legit skills? you even whine over a2b. go figure another play that refuses to watch buffs. 1v1 and you alpha against a target with omega and tt up. LMAO
lol hater :P i must say got do your lesson and lurn to play , cause i won all my duel
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
French Canadian
Our leader promotes nothing but goodwill towards us and rewards us well with promotions and access to great gear for nothing more than one rule: "Punish the FEDS."
We are at war; seems to make sense to me
And if Zelda exploits something or any of our clan does, it is because the Feds did it first and, as one commenter said, "at a much higher level," and think they are cool :P as they call us everything in the book since they won a match against our unreped toons. I'd like to see this higher level
Point in being is we at Beautiful Orions have a great house with active members and a great leader, Zelda, who promotes nothing more than the game itself, war with the feds. If anyone exploits at our house it is only in defense and to return the game to equality.
And if you go around copying and pasting everything, I imagine Zelda could be a fairly from Woodland. So that alone kinda tells you the types of ppl trying to defame our leader. Lowly ones!! Regardle HOBO rules!! And so does Zelda. Suck it up buttercups!!
I love this post. I like how people in jem bugs with placate or rom placate think they're good. LOL they suck. If you need all that to win, you're garbage. I don't care how good they think they are. Using rom placate or Jem bug = You're a loser that need the strongest everything to win...
PVP in this game is the biggest joke I ever seen. "black cloud console", Aux to battery, Orion interceptors, Rom T4 placate skill, elachi weapons, ETC. Most of that TRIBBLE need to be completely removed. It would be a step in the right direction. Thankfully I use none of that TRIBBLE, so I'm better than those that do. Even if I lose.
Using all broken TRIBBLE is not the answer... At all...
i used too pwn you 24/7 till you went all lame and got placate t4 and use of a rom. go back to your old regular fed toon with no placates and die 24/7. get over it link
Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
man ur unknow, ... probably a 10 year old kid
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
French Canadian
so you know all broken stuffs .I see you listed them .
every power /debuff needs to have a counter.When you list them like a true captain kirk people expect you know the counters for them.
They only forgot to add doffs that allow sci ships and escorts to get all powers on global cooldown .Im sure they will add them or nerf the tech doffs ...one or the other.
lol :P
[System] Zelda has been on active duty for 126 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes, 48 seconds.
French Canadian
Thank youyou
I think most people would rather be unknown than a known, and seemingly self-confessed, user of broken skills and game mechanics, no?
House of Beautiful Orions I would like to create an episode of GoS centered around your fleet and its hatred of the feds.
Zelda, if you could contact me @Roach ingame so I can send you a list of questions I would really apreciate it.
R.I.P
and why am i a 10 year old kid? you act just as stupid as i do...........and the fact you cant admit why you get kills now is plain stupid. you cry about everything thats lame yet you use abusive TRIBBLE too. so get off your high horse.