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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Why do the Voth want us dead? Because the Doctrine says so, because they hate mammals, because the Ministry of Elders claim the Sphere was built by their ancestors and because they don't know our plans with the Omega particle and assume we will use it against them.

    Plus, following what happened with Voyager, our mere existence is a contradiction to the Doctrine and they don't tolerate anything contradicting it. And now we're beginning to recruit Voth in our ranks, so the Voth government is even less happy, to say the least.

    Basically, it's a big misunderstanding and one side really doesn't want to hear any argument from the other side (who has a talent for encountering xenophobic races and pissing them off by accident), because they're religious bigots.
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  • kaevwrynnkaevwrynn Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Well, unless the sphere's surface blocks their phase cloaking, they could just fly in from anywhere. Which does make them fighting us over one relatively insignificant portion of the sphere's interior rather pointless.

    'We' in general don't contradict Doctrine. Unless by 'we' you mean humans. Yes, the Voth weren't exactly differentiating between humans and, say, Vulcans in the episode, but the only ones said to share genetic markers with the Voth were humans. And they don't 'hate' mammals. They just view mammals as inferior. If they hated mammals, the scientists from the episode would have never even listened to Chakotay. They'd have just killed him or lobotomized him or something.

    So, yes. The idea of the Voth just happening to be in the same part of the sphere that the Jouret gate connects to is foolish. With the sheer size of the bloody thing, the Voth should be able to conduct their research without the joint task force even knowing they're there. Unless what we face is a spearhead of their efforts within the sphere and we're ultimately just causing a minor inconvenience to their expeditionary force, the whole thing is horribly contrived.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,473 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    kaevwrynn wrote: »
    So, yes. The idea of the Voth just happening to be in the same part of the sphere that the Jouret gate connects to is foolish.
    "I believe in coincidences. Coincidences happen all the time! But I don't trust coincidences." - Garak, on DS9
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  • fr0gurtfr0gurt Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    jonsills wrote: »
    "I believe in coincidences. Coincidences happen all the time! But I don't trust coincidences." - Garak, on DS9

    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's enemy action." -- Auric Goldfinger
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  • lordfuzunlordfuzun Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    starkaos wrote: »
    I wonder how they actually know that they are on the the edge of the Delta Quadrant and it corresponds to the Dyson Sphere from Season 8 Dev Blog #1. So until we get outside the Sphere, then there is no real confirmation since the Dyson Sphere computer systems could be lying. The Voth are an indicator of the sphere being in the Delta Quadrant, but not completely. The Voth have transwarp drives so they could go anywhere in a couple of months.
    that's actually a very good question... now I'm starting to wonder....

    If it's true that the Dyson sphere is at the edge of the Delta Quandrant then we can get a rough estimate of how far it's from Earth. WARNING: Math is incoming!!!

    Earth is the intersection of the border between the Alpha and Beta quadrants. The Beta/Delta quandrants is 90 degrees spinward ("east") of the Alpha/Beta border. Assuming the Dyson sphere is approximate the same distance from the galaxy center as Earth (27,000 LY). The Dyson Sphere is 38183 LY from Earth.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    lordfuzun wrote: »
    If it's true that the Dyson sphere is at the edge of the Delta Quandrant then we can get a rough estimate of how far it's from Earth. WARNING: Math is incoming!!!

    Earth is the interaction of the border between the Alpha and Beta quadrants. The Beta/Delta quandrants is 90 degrees spinward ("east") of the Alpha/Beta border. Assuming the Dyson sphere is approximate the same distance from the galaxy center as Earth (27,000 LY). The Dyson Sphere is 38183 LY from Earth.


    They said in one Blog that the Sphere is 30,000 Light years from Earth and in another interview, it was revealed it's near the Beta-Delta Quadrant Border.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    fr0gurt wrote: »
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's enemy action." -- Auric Goldfinger
    Yeah, it could be that we both showed up because this location is where the important parts of the sphere are.

    Are there Omega silos scattered around the whole Sphere?

    Is there more than one space gate?

    It's entirely possible that the answers to those questions are both no.
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  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    because they're religious bigots.

    Ideology does not necessarily equal religion. Let's keep comments about religion out of the discussion, please.
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