I know this has been brought up before but it gets even WORSE when you go to command and listen to what they say about the Sphere...
They say it has a 200 Million KM diameter. REALLY?
That would be to say that it has a diameter of: 124,274,238.447 Miles.
That means that each part of the sphere should be orbiting the sun at roughly: 62,137,119.2235 Miles
Terra orbits our sun at: 92,960,000 Miles and is in the optimal zone for comfortable living.
Venus orbits our sun at: 67,240,000 Miles and is considered to be too close to be habitable even if it were terraformed.
So first and foremost you have the walls of this sphere being close enough to that yellow dwarf that it would really COOK them. Now I guess you can try to make the argument that they use some kind of cooling technology (not that the star seems dimmed in any way) or that the collection of the star's energy by the Sphere helps to prevent its walls from heating up too much. I would consider that a bit questionable but I MIGHT be willing to suspend my disbelief about that.
Next problem is the one so frequently brought up that apparently the Devs cannot comprehend what being in a sphere with an orbit around the Star nearly as far out as Venus would look like. They want to use the Rule of Cool to give us Halo like visuals but the Halo Worlds were only around the size of a planet nowhere NEAR the size of this Sphere.
That means a Halo Ring would be around: 24,901.55 miles in Diameter. That is compared to the Sphere which is 124,274,238.447 miles or more in Diameter according to the scientist. In other words a Halo Ring would only be: 0.02003% the size of this Sphere.
Why is that important? Because on a Sphere this size you would NEVER notice the curvature of the Sphere from the inside. The land would curve SO gradually that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to detect. Furthermore, you would also NOT see the sides of the sphere going up around you with any clarity with your naked eyes. They would be so far away as to make it impossible. Keep in mind that Luna (our moon) is only 238,900 miles away from us but the walls of this Sphere are going to be further away at orders of magnitude.
Also you would NEVER be able to see the other side of the sphere as anything more than an ambient glow as it will be roughly 124,274,238.447 Miles away from you. That means it would take a bit more than 11 minutes for the light reflecting off the other side to even GET TO YOUR EYES. That is pretty distant to expect a naked eye to see. Sure ship's sensors may be able to detect these things but not eyes.
Last but not least is gravity... If the Sphere is spinning to create Gravity then the only inhabitable zones would be at the equator and everything would naturally be dragged to that location. So in order for what we see to happen the sphere must either A) Be thick enough to create planet-like gravity all around or
Be artificially creating planet-like gravity along its entire surface. Not saying that B is totally impossible with their tech but it would be a big power drain. Option A is nearly insane due to the fact that you would need the material from so many planets the size of Earth to build even a thin Sphere as big as this one that imagining making one thick enough to also produce suitable gravity is just mind numbing. There would be a lot of missing planets throughout the entire Delta Quadrant.
TL/DR: You cannot see the curvature of the Sphere or Details of the land mass on the sides or furthest distances of the Sphere with the naked eye. The surface of the Sphere would not have gravity except for the equator. The surface of the Sphere would be burning up. The Delta Quadrant must be missing a lot of planets to have made this thing.
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While I agree with the curvature, I have to disagree with your assessment that we wouldn't be able to see the walls on the other side, since the star would be illuminating the entire interior structure. So we very likely would be seeing the far ends of the sphere.
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1: Rule of cool. People expect to be able to see the other side of the Sphere.
2: The same problems exist with Star Trek canon.
3: Dyson spheres, if anyone were dumb enough to ever build one in the first place, and ridiculously unstable.
And finally, at what point is it stated that the Solonae dyson sphere has a star identical to Sol?
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Yup, it's not 1AU. Yes it's roughly in Venus' orbit. But hey, guess what? It's not orbiting Sol!
It's orbiting a smaller, dimmer sun. So it's in the Goldilocks zone for THAT star.
It's true, in a real Dyson Sphere, you wouldn't see any curvature, and the opposite wall of the sphere would just be a solid color. Know what that looks like? Pretty much every ground map in the game already. It's Science Fiction. When you tell someone they're in a Dyson Sphere, they expect to see certain things. Yes, it's not 100% realistic (but a Dyson Sphere in general isn't either).
And actually, I DID go over all of this before. Several times in fact, leading up to S8.
B.
A doesn't work for anything you want to inhabit. And even building a thin shell requires you to harvest thousands of star systems. Which is stupid and insane. Again, Dyson Sphere's are cool in theory, but suck in practice.
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Why stop there? Let's make relative distances in sector space more "realistic." No more seeing anything but an empty starfield with the naked eye 99%. Only be aware of other players through sensor contacts.
We should definitely have to calculate a firing solution before we shoot at anything in space. That sounds fun. :rolleyes:
And it is WAY too simplistic to maneuver a ship with WASD and a mouse. We should have at least 8 individual maneuvering thruster banks bound to 8 individual keys and manipulate pitch, roll, and yaw seperately. Course, distance, and speed must be calculated and plotted before you go anywhere.
Next, let's talk about objects like ships colliding in space...
Yeah, I'm actually surprised Taco was the first one to point this out. It should be pretty obvious - the habitable zones of some stars is closer than Mercury's orbit.
despite its destructive properties, it is aparently heralded to produce tremendous amounts of power, so maybe with a massive self replicating network powered by these particles, this could be possible.
and when I say a self replicating network, I mean replicators the size of ESD and with the ability to replicate an entire sphere with the purpous of using the sphere to contain an artificial star.
They should have chosen a white dwarf star instead. A Dyson sphere around such a star would "only" have to measure around 3 million kilometers in diameter to be in the habitable zone. Such a sphere would still have an inner surface approximatly 27'720 times the size of earth's surface. Big enough for wars, Omega particles, Spires and everything else they want to put in there.
That pretty much covers it.
This was not perfect Dyson Sphere Simulator. This a game. If it looks accurate, then you will have people that will think it is broken because they cannot see the farside. The Devs went for a more cool look than an accurate look.
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And if this is indeed an M-type red dwarf star (as opposed to, for instance, Sol, a G-type yellow star), then yes, you'd need to huddle closer to stay warm. It's been proposed that any planet close enough to a red dwarf to be in the Goldilocks zone would also be so close as to become tidally locked to the star, which could potentially render it uninhabitable by humans.
Beyond that, as has already been invoked, Rule of Cool covers it all.
I'm not just defending the Dyson sphere because it's my most favorite type of mega structure. It's about plausibility within fiction.
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It would be funny if the Doomsday device Planet Killers were created as demolitions units for the creation of these spheres and not weapons at all as Kirk supposed.
I mean, the game already challenges Picard's assumptions about the Iconians being misunderstood. Maybe Kirk was projecting when he compared the Doomsday Device to a weapon. Maybe it's just a wrecking ball for construction.
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