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  • ragestroke008ragestroke008 Member Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I reckon they hate the KDF. Has to be the reason why they are ignoring them.
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  • rex9234rex9234 Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It would be harder to make a kdf ship than a fed ship the reason is that kdf ships design varies a lot unlike the feds which is all basically the same every time
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I just hope our upcoming New Neghvar is just as good as the new fed improved Torkhat... I mean Avenger without the silly reasoning that a handicapnis needed due to inherent cloaking.

    I would love to see it with a similiar Boff layout though I would expect the shield modifier to not go past .99 for the cstore version or past 1.1 for the fleet version.
    Instead of the special torpedo console they could give it a siege level heavy cannon of some sort along its center line.
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I just hope our upcoming New Neghvar is just as good as the new fed improved Torkhat... I mean Avenger without the silly reasoning that a handicapnis needed due to inherent cloaking.

    I would love to see it with a similiar Boff layout though I would expect the shield modifier to not go past .99 for the cstore version or past 1.1 for the fleet version.
    Instead of the special torpedo console they could give it a siege level heavy cannon of some sort along its center line.

    I know we're getting a new ship, and It's been delayed, but why does averyone think its going to be a Negh'Var? Did the devs specifically say Negh'Var? Link? Also, If the new C-store ship does end up being a Negh'Var, it will probably have the stats of the fleet version (-10% hull and shields), a gimmick console, and give a discount on the fleet version.

    For a 5/3 weapon battlecruiser the likelihood of filling this role in a decreasing order are:
    1)K'Tanco battlecruiser http://sto.gamepedia.com/K%27Tanco_Battle_Cruiser (Personally, I don't like this one very much but since it's already in game it would be super cheap for Cryptic to do.)
    2)K'vort Battlecruiser (Personally my favorite option, and second least costly to Cryptic since all they would have to do to design it is upscale the B'rel and remove the wing animation. *Note: they could also tweek the design a little and it would still be less costly than the next two options)
    3)Design a new battlecruiser (would cost more than the first two options)
    4)D-5 class (It would cost as much as option 3, and not too many people even recognize it, let alone want it.)
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  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Actually the KDF tutorial was something. Something very good for us. A labor of love it has been called and we KDF want that love to continue as any fan would want
    Not have trolls like some in this thread come and try to argue why our desires are moot.
    That od akin to arguing politics or religion, thier are only viewpoints with no hard facts and those that can give the real answers do not talk below thier stations.

    As fans we KDF expect more out of the larger healthier Cryptic that now exists. Not more excuses.

    The tutorial is something, but in the large scope of things, but the KDF still misses out on a full faction experience that it deserves. They shouldn't have launched the Romulan faction until the KDF experience was completed. To me, it seems that the games operational focus is "putting out fires" instead of implementing full-solutions. Its the half-measures that drive me nuts.
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  • nador67nador67 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The tutorial is something, but in the large scope of things, but the KDF still misses out on a full faction experience that it deserves. They shouldn't have launched the Romulan faction until the KDF experience was completed. To me, it seems that the games operational focus is "putting out fires" instead of implementing full-solutions. Its the half-measures that drive me nuts.

    I think that fans that prefer not playing the Federation needs to realize that Cryptic isn't going to balance KDF, Romulan Republic, or any other future factions. The development teams for these factions will be small and will be the ones pulled out of their faction support in order to help on the next great Federation plan.

    We need to deal with what we have; storylines will NOT be fleshed out, No faction will have anywhere near the number of Ship classes, No faction will have as great of a variety in outfits either.

    Still I fight for Cardassia
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The tutorial is something, but in the large scope of things, but the KDF still misses out on a full faction experience that it deserves. They shouldn't have launched the Romulan faction until the KDF experience was completed. To me, it seems that the games operational focus is "putting out fires" instead of implementing full-solutions. Its the half-measures that drive me nuts.

    We will always be left wanting period. They have no interest in us other than the whipping boy faction for the feds to gloat over.
    Now that they have the "more klingon than klingon " battle cruiser I no longer hold the Illusion they give a fester ****te about us.
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
  • oakland4lifeoakland4life Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    They have no interest in us other than the whipping boy faction for the feds to gloat over..

    Tell that to the New Fed Avenger class players i killed with my Fleet B'rel in PvP. ^_^
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Tell that to the New Fed Avenger class players i killed with my Fleet B'rel in PvP. ^_^

    Why would tell the players when it is Cryptic policy that keeps us down? A fine weapon does not garauntee victory in the hands of someone whom does not know how to use it.
    The Avenger is merely the latest example of something KDF being taken and made better to sell it to the feds to keep them in the mindset of being superior and further cementing our position as whipping boys to them. Its just more power creep packaged to sell to a fanbase in the hopes of making money to be followed by more future more powerful creep to do the same.
    All while we KDF waste away.
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  • oakland4lifeoakland4life Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Why would tell the players when it is Cryptic policy that keeps us down? A fine weapon does not garauntee victory in the hands of someone whom does not know how to use it.
    The Avenger is merely the latest example of something KDF being taken and made better to sell it to the feds to keep them in the mindset of being superior and further cementing our position as whipping boys to them. Its just more power creep packaged to sell to a fanbase in the hopes of making money to be followed by more future more powerful creep to do the same.
    All while we KDF waste away.

    U, Me and the most STO KDF fan base knows how Cryptic is treating us. i appealed to Cryptic mutiple times about how KDF is being underdevolped, i also sent mutiple bugs reports from broken marauding boff's customization to the Fleet B'rel not being able to use the B'rolth skins, which seems to be all ignored... but recently they only now reconized my current complaint of the Nausicaan ''Pirate'' space trait being broken which i mention 1000's times b4 since the release of LoR. (even though, fixed or not would be no match vs the OP Rommie boff space traits, but atleast we will have a fighting chance if fixed).

    i think the only time they listen to me was on the Beta testing of the Rommie faction b4 the release of the LoR, which i complain about the Fleet T'varo is being OP having 5 Tac consoles with a enchance battle cloak and 33k hull, i was demanding it should be knocked down to 4 tac console and recomended the Fleet Dhelan to have the 5 tac consoles.

    but we can agree that Cryptic needs to get out of the favoring one child over the another mindset if they wanna have a large fan base for mutiple factions for the long term... the ball is in their court, either they want to susceded or not is up to them.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The problem is that Cryptic feels they have succeed in playing ball with only one team and a large group of Romulan cheerleaders on that court........
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  • oakland4lifeoakland4life Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    The problem is that Cryptic feels they have succeed in playing ball with only one team and a large group of Romulan cheerleaders on that court........

    Nah, they just have Rommie faction is just distraction with newer content/ships (Like the Scimitar for an example) which toke a year to make just so they can milk money from, with that money Cryptic decides to make more Fed Ships for themselfs, if one thing we learn from the Rommie faction now from the Ar'Kif is what looks the beginning of a strain of the Rommie faction and by this time next year alot of people will just see them of what they're really are... a Subfaction which a few fail to realize what it is now.

    as for ur Sig... i would blame both the Fed fan base and Cryptic, The Fed Fan Base demanding the power creep ships and Cryptic giving them what they want instead of doing what alot of video game studios doing in the MMO industries doing now, which balancing both or mutiple factions in their games to appease both or more fanbases. which is Cryptic is one of the few companies which have not done.

    Note: i have not yet seen any Cryptic Dev's that acutally have a KDF main or use any KDF toons they use alot of times at all.
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    We will always be left wanting period. They have no interest in us other than the whipping boy faction for the feds to gloat over.
    Now that they have the "more klingon than klingon " battle cruiser I no longer hold the Illusion they give a fester ****te about us.

    This is the problem with the game as is, there needs to be proper appeal in ALL factions in an MMO to keep activity high. This is exactly why my Fleet is almost dead and the KDF side of our fleet is non-existent. The game has been a grind fest instead of faction wars and action content for far too long, and its effects are evident.


    In regards to the Avenger, I honestly think that the 5/3 setup should be assigned to Klingon Battlecruisers.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I had a tinfoil hat moment earlier:

    What if they gave the Avenger to the Feds first, just so Feds could claim to have a battlecruiser with 5 forward weapons first and so 'we' would be 'stealing' from them?

    Like I said, tinfoil hat theory.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
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  • breadandcircusesbreadandcircuses Member Posts: 2,355 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    I had a tinfoil hat moment earlier:

    What if they gave the Avenger to the Feds first, just so Feds could claim to have a battlecruiser with 5 forward weapons first and so 'we' would be 'stealing' from them?

    Like I said, tinfoil hat theory.

    Nah, the Roms got that first and the Feds stole it from them. Now the 5 fore/5 tac console escort... that they got first. The KDF should totally steal it next time the Feds aren't looking. Remember to pack space heaters... darn Andorians don't know how to design life support systems properly. :D
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  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Nah, the Roms got that first and the Feds stole it from them. Now the 5 fore/5 tac console escort... that they got first. The KDF should totally steal it next time the Feds aren't looking. Remember to pack space heaters... darn Andorians don't know how to design life support systems properly. :D

    To be honest if they wanted to do this by the books we should have 6-8 forward weapon ships as well as 5 forward weapons ones. Is simple logic on why a peace keeping/exploration force would be using ships that out match those of an organization of the opposite side of the token who are conquerors. Is like that one episode where that negh'var does that one attack on DS9 in this game it would say Kurland Here... My sister can punch harder than that. Then the Warrior would reply Uggggghhhhh why in Kahless did we allow our battle cruisers to be copies of the federations weakest cruisers.

    On top of all that what gets me the most is these things for promotion of like the fed battle cruiser now being designed to match the KDF battle cruisers they didn't need one to match because the federation has already been given ships that have way more fire power. Although you don't see/hear anything about the KDF doing what Klingon warriors do is also seek and have battle cruisers to out do their enemies especially with the threats other than the federation out there like the tal shiar, undine, iconians, fek'ihr, etc. Pretty much the empire is facing so much and the other funny part is all these new grinds coming out its like we are pausing our war this and that and you know after awhile a federation officer and a warrior of the empire would have to ask is there even still a war? Especially looking at all these ques and we do not have a single raid against the federation itself or for any other enemy faction as well LOL.

    Is also so funny how a certain podcaster said once they didn't have the capacity to do what was needed to get this game on the scale where it needed to be and they kinda shrugged that off and swept it under the carpet. Although with the years that its been now you think they would have proven the nay sayers wrong but from all these threads and many pages they gotta know there is a demand and it might not be huge like some federation items being sold but at one point they did say they had to make content for everyone but I guess that still means everyone in the federation. As well Stahl said in a podcast interview that he doesn't want it to be about this faction got something or that faction did and at the time he was trying to ride the momentum of LoR but its been 5 months ago and that momentum is gone so his wants or claims of wants have once again are empty as the actions taken to procure said desired outcome.
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