People don't even read in-game pop-up windows that explain how to not do a Leroy, asking them to read the forums and dev blogs is asking way too much.
Ive never had a pop up window ???
Also I only really come to the forums mainly for specific reasons, I dont want to read every thread thats posted and every single reply to every single topic.
Also I only really come to the forums mainly for specific reasons, I dont want to read every thread thats posted and every single reply to every single topic.
They have pop-up windows all the time on a new character(they actually get annoying after a while). You do not have to read every forums post, you could have easily looked at the wiki. Please stop acting like you're the victim of some rip-off, you said yourself the ships were mostly for your Fed characters anyway, not Cryptics or anyone elses fault the only Rom ship you like is the D'Deridex.
Also I only really come to the forums mainly for specific reasons, I dont want to read every thread thats posted and every single reply to every single topic.
By pop up window, he means the dialog that comes up with the store when you go to purchase a ship. It says something to the effect of 'buying this will unlock this ship for all X characters on your account.' X being faction of course.
And before you want to complain about 'joining' a faction and romulans not being their own faction, it does not matter. Game mechanic wise they are standalone faction with their own ships at endgame.
By pop up window, he means the dialog that comes up with the store when you go to purchase a ship. It says something to the effect of 'buying this will unlock this ship for all X characters on your account.' X being faction of course.
Romulan race but after level 10 I am federation.
Federation lower ships
Federation Starbase
If this was a cbs / legal issue which I doubt it is then why can they fly any fed ships and use their consoles at all.
As I said before they join into either the federation or klingon factions and as a member of that alliance you should be able to pilot their ships.
I am not bothered if it isnt a 2-way street and we are unable to command romulan ships because you start off as that faction and later one commit to Federation or Klingon Empire.
They wanted to integrate Romulans into either currect factions and they just done it half way and let us access the ships that will only be used for a few hours and deny access to the ones that we will be using at end game.
Please stop acting like you're the victim of some rip-off, you said yourself the ships were mostly for your Fed characters anyway, not Cryptics or anyone elses fault the only Rom ship you like is the D'Deridex.
How am I acting like a victim, I just said the situation was stupid with half and half access.
Also the only proper tactical ship is the one you start off with which looks like a dinner plate and the scimitars and even then its only because the Lt Commander Tactical station is universal.
As I said before they join into either the federation or klingon factions and as a member of that alliance you should be able to pilot their ships.
Why should they be able to command the top of the line ships of their allies?
Makes no sense. Messes up game play making playing as a Starfleet Officer or Klingon Officer obsolete compared to the Romulans. Makes no sense because in the shows allies did not have unlimited access to ships and technology. Makes no sense also because only a fool gives away all their technology and ships to a ally.
Edit: Also another thing if they allowed people to fly allied tier 5 ships how much money would they lose from some people just flying ships they already unlocked instead of buying new ships?
Hey dicks wads because he didn't read that doesn't mean you need to become complete dicks to him. If you buy a damn ship on an account you should own it all the way through. Sorry OP what is happening to you is complete BS
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How am I acting like a victim, I just said the situation was stupid with half and half access.
Also the only proper tactical ship is the one you start off with which looks like a dinner plate and the scimitars and even then its only because the Lt Commander Tactical station is universal.
Your acting like this is a huge deal and that it is unfair that you bought those FEDERATION ships and you cannot use them on your ROMULAN character. The Mogai, the Dhelan, the T'varo( the dinnerplate), the Scimitar, the Ha'feh, and it's Mirror are all tac based (Mogai is a destroyer an escort/cruiser hybrid). Romulans have more Escort-like choices then the other types combined. They have only 2 science ships (3 if you count Tulwar), and only 4 Cruisers (6 if you count Mogai as both tac based and engi based and the falchion)
Need to get this straight: You are angry at Cryptic because you did not read the description and classification on the ships you purchased? As well as the very detailed dev-blog on the matter?
Funny.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
If this was a cbs / legal issue which I doubt it is then why can they fly any fed ships and use their consoles at all.
As I said before they join into either the federation or klingon factions and as a member of that alliance you should be able to pilot their ships.
I am not bothered if it isnt a 2-way street and we are unable to command romulan ships because you start off as that faction and later one commit to Federation or Klingon Empire.
They wanted to integrate Romulans into either currect factions and they just done it half way and let us access the ships that will only be used for a few hours and deny access to the ones that we will be using at end game.
You are NOT a member of the Federation when you choose to ally with them. You are but a ally to the Federation. You still stand alone on your own with the Republic but you have access to your allies facilities and SOME of their tech. No one is going to give an ally access to their top of the line bleeding edge tech (Which is T5)
I dropped 30,000 zen for federation C-Store ships, mostly Vice Admiral for my 4 Federation characters for ones I liked and some for the consoles.
I just hit Vice Admiral with my Romulan Character woth whom I decided to join starfleet. Why the hell can I not use ships on a Federation character just because its a Romulan race.
This is complete rubbish, I didnt manage to purchase any romulan ships because you geniuses don't allow purchase of ships that are outside of level range. I wanted to unlock ships from the C-Store for romulan specific but wasnt going to be able to hit 50 by end of ship sale and couldn't buy them because I wasnt 50.
Let me use my Federations Vice Admiral ships / equipment on my Vice Admiral (Thats right, EVEN A FEDERATION RANK) Federation faction Romulan character.
Good God.
/rant
I believe we had alot of talk about this earlier on the forums.
I tend to Agree with you that our Romulan characters Should be able to use our level 50 zen store ships...... Yet it seems....(so far).... that they aren't allowing it.
Hopefully they will allow it eventually.
I think they will. Cause they don't want to lose costumers whom aren't happy about that.
I think they will. Cause they don't want to lose costumers whom aren't happy about that.
Wrong, because the outrage would be even bigger from just about anyone that doesn't play a Romulan, because their factions become pointless to play as, because the Romulans get access to everything they have AND Warbirds.
You are NOT a member of the Federation when you choose to ally with them. You are but a ally to the Federation. You still stand alone on your own with the Republic but you have access to your allies facilities and SOME of their tech. No one is going to give an ally access to their top of the line bleeding edge tech (Which is T5)
Thanks for that, reasonable but still quite frustrating.
Cryptic made this very clear in multiple dev blogs before LoR even released.
Just because you fail to make the effort to keep informed about important things, doesn't mean Cryptic is at fault.
Yet it is. People can freely purchase and use Federation ships, bridges, fighters, shuttlecraft etc... on their Romulan characters and use them until they reach the RA, with no description that any RA/VA ships purchased on a true Fed characters can't be used by a Fed/Romulan. No ingame warning, no implication, no warning in the c-store, Nothing.
The only restriction listed is "Vice Admiral"
Cryptic simply made the system confusing as hell and it's just another example of how horrible this game is tutored and documented. They should have just locked Romulans out of KDF/Fed ships for good and no confusion, which cost the OP RL-cash, would have happened.
Also, do you really expect players, especially those that are new to the game to dig up months or year-old dev-blogs where it's mentioned in a side note which ship you can use and which you can't? That information belong ingame in a prominent position in the c-store.
The big conclusion that one can draw from most of the answers to the OPs post is, that it just proves again and again that STO has the ****tiest online game community. I've never seen another game or game forum were the *******-ratio was as high as in this game.
Yet it is. People can freely purchase and use Federation ships, bridges, fighters, shuttlecraft etc... on their Romulan characters and use them until they reach the RA, with no description that any RA/VA ships purchased on a true Fed characters can't be used by a Fed/Romulan. No ingame warning, no implication, no warning in the c-store, Nothing.
If with your Romulan you try to buy a tier 5 ship that is not a Romulan ship it will say "Your character is restricted from receiving this item and it wont let you buy it.
Yet it is. People can freely purchase and use Federation ships, bridges, fighters, shuttlecraft etc... on their Romulan characters and use them until they reach the RA, with no description that any RA/VA ships purchased on a true Fed characters can't be used by a Fed/Romulan. No ingame warning, no implication, no warning in the c-store, Nothing.
The only restriction listed is "Vice Admiral"
Cryptic simply made the system confusing as hell and it's just another example of how horrible this game is tutored and documented. They should have just locked Romulans out of KDF/Fed ships for good and no confusion, which cost the OP RL-cash, would have happened.
Also, do you really expect players, especially those that are new to the game to dig up months or year-old dev-blogs where it's mentioned in a side note which ship you can use and which you can't? That information belong ingame in a prominent position in the c-store.
The big conclusion that one can draw from most of the answers to the OPs post is, that it just proves again and again that STO has the ****tiest online game community. I've never seen another game or game forum were the *******-ratio was as high as in this game.
Also, it wasn't some kind of side note in a dev blog with one little mention, it was stated multiple times in dev blogs, on the forums, no doubt explained on social media and any kind of interview as well that this restriction was in place.
Cryptic properly informed us of this and you would literally have to have been under a freaking rock not to have gotten the message, that or you are a person that chooses not to read any official news. then it's your own damned fault for keeping yourself ignorant on purpose.
I dropped 30,000 zen for federation C-Store ships, mostly Vice Admiral for my 4 Federation characters for ones I liked and some for the consoles.
I just hit Vice Admiral with my Romulan Character woth whom I decided to join starfleet. Why the hell can I not use ships on a Federation character just because its a Romulan race.
This is complete rubbish, I didnt manage to purchase any romulan ships because you geniuses don't allow purchase of ships that are outside of level range. I wanted to unlock ships from the C-Store for romulan specific but wasnt going to be able to hit 50 by end of ship sale and couldn't buy them because I wasnt 50.
Let me use my Federations Vice Admiral ships / equipment on my Vice Admiral (Thats right, EVEN A FEDERATION RANK) Federation faction Romulan character.
Good God.
/rant
the reason you cant use 40+ fed and kdf ships is because it would defeat the purpose of playing fed or kdf. Romulans are thier own faction, not an add-on to kdf or fed and they need to have thier own ships. the reason for the whole "alliance system" is to make up for the lack of ships from lv 1-39. I understand that you spent $ on lv 50 fed content, but that stuff needs to stay on fed. Otherwise, whats the point of playing as a romulan.
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Why the hell can I not use ships on a Federation character just because its a Romulan race.
The why is simple. Back when this mini-faction, or fRaction was announced, the social justice forum crusader types stepped up and complained that some players, like YOU, would try to do exactly what you thought you could do.
If with your Romulan you try to buy a tier 5 ship that is not a Romulan ship it will say "Your character is restricted from receiving this item and it wont let you buy it.
But if you have a Fed, you can buy both the T3 Defiant and the RA Defiant and you don't see any indication that your level 20 Romulan won't be able to use them later, after all, he was able to fly your c-store Nova or Exeter with no problems, which displayed exactly the same message for him when your Romulan character was still at level 10 or the same message it displayed for him on the D'deridex.
Also, it wasn't some kind of side note in a dev blog with one little mention, it was stated multiple times in dev blogs, on the forums, no doubt explained on social media and any kind of interview as well that this restriction was in place.
Cryptic properly informed us of this and you would literally have to have been under a freaking rock not to have gotten the message, that or you are a person that chooses not to read any official news. then it's your own damned fault for keeping yourself ignorant on purpose.
Yes, it was. The latest Dev Blog mentioning it isn't even displayed on the homepage anymore, but has already been pushed into the archive. Only an idiot with no grasp on reality would expect new players to dig through hundreds of Dev blogs and forums posts just to know weather he can fly a ship or not. Imagine what it's going to be like for new players a month or even a year from now when those posts and blogs have completely disappered...
This is information that should be put in the place where you spend that money, namely the c-store.
Also you can't expect people to stay online 24/7, like you obviously do and follow every forum post, tweet or podcast made by the dev team. Most people just see the information on the launcher or displayed in the ingame menu. The hidden information (yes, it was, or at least it is hidden now) on which ship Romulans can fly just isn't there.
But if you have a Fed, you can buy both the T3 Defiant and the RA Defiant and you don't see any indication that your level 20 Romulan won't be able to use them later, after all, he was able to fly your c-store Nova or Exeter with no problems, which displayed exactly the same message for him when your Romulan character was still at level 10 or the same message it displayed for him on the D'deridex.
Yes, it was. The latest Dev Blog mentioning it isn't even displayed on the homepage anymore, but has already been pushed into the archive. Only an idiot with no grasp on reality would expect new players to dig through hundreds of Dev blogs and forums posts just to know weather he can fly a ship or not. Imagine what it's going to be like for new players a month or even a year from now when those posts and blogs have completely disappered...
This is information that should be put in the place where you spend that money, namely the c-store.
Also you can't expect people to stay online 24/7, like you obviously do and follow every forum post, tweet or podcast made by the dev team. Most people just see the information on the launcher or displayed in the ingame menu. The hidden information (yes, it was, or at least it is hidden now) on which ship Romulans can fly just isn't there.
Except if you already have a level 50 fed/Klink (which is the only way to buy those ships), you would not be wasting money because you have that character. THe game does not allow Romulans to buy the level 50 ship. New player who start a romulan right away would not be able to buy the Tier 5 ships no matter what.
I also love how your people ignore the fact that allowing romulans to use tier 5 ships of the other factions would make it a one faction game as everyone would be a romulan as the other should be completely pointless.
Except if you already have a level 50 fed/Klink (which is the only way to buy those ships), you would not be wasting money because you have that character. THe game does not allow Romulans to buy the level 50 ship. New player who start a romulan right away would not be able to buy the Tier 5 ships no matter what.
I also love how your people ignore the fact that allowing romulans to use tier 5 ships of the other factions would make it a one faction game as everyone would be a romulan as the other should be completely pointless.
They choose to ignore it because it doesn't fit into their arguments.
Only an idiot with no grasp of reality would argue that people are not responsible for educating themselves and asking questions about the games they are playing, especially if they intend to spend money on the games.
And seriously how hard is it to post a question on the forums?
Player with Question: Hey I noticed the store won't let me buy the T5 Fed ships on my Rom character. Will my Rommie be able to use the T5 ships if I buy them using a Fed character?
Random Forum Member: No. The T5 ships are restricted to their own factions. Feds can only use T5 Fed ships, Roms can only use T5 Rom ships, and KDF can only use T5 KDF ships.
Player with Question: Hey thanks for the quick response.
That's not how people seem to work today.
Rather than spending time either looking for the info or asking about it...they prefer to spend time on the forums after the fact and complain that nobody came to their house, sat down and told them explicitly what NOT to do.
That's why we now need to have warnings like this on everything:
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Ive never had a pop up window ???
Also I only really come to the forums mainly for specific reasons, I dont want to read every thread thats posted and every single reply to every single topic.
They have pop-up windows all the time on a new character(they actually get annoying after a while). You do not have to read every forums post, you could have easily looked at the wiki. Please stop acting like you're the victim of some rip-off, you said yourself the ships were mostly for your Fed characters anyway, not Cryptics or anyone elses fault the only Rom ship you like is the D'Deridex.
By pop up window, he means the dialog that comes up with the store when you go to purchase a ship. It says something to the effect of 'buying this will unlock this ship for all X characters on your account.' X being faction of course.
And before you want to complain about 'joining' a faction and romulans not being their own faction, it does not matter. Game mechanic wise they are standalone faction with their own ships at endgame.
Romulan race but after level 10 I am federation.
Federation lower ships
Federation Starbase
If this was a cbs / legal issue which I doubt it is then why can they fly any fed ships and use their consoles at all.
As I said before they join into either the federation or klingon factions and as a member of that alliance you should be able to pilot their ships.
I am not bothered if it isnt a 2-way street and we are unable to command romulan ships because you start off as that faction and later one commit to Federation or Klingon Empire.
They wanted to integrate Romulans into either currect factions and they just done it half way and let us access the ships that will only be used for a few hours and deny access to the ones that we will be using at end game.
How am I acting like a victim, I just said the situation was stupid with half and half access.
Also the only proper tactical ship is the one you start off with which looks like a dinner plate and the scimitars and even then its only because the Lt Commander Tactical station is universal.
Why should they be able to command the top of the line ships of their allies?
Makes no sense. Messes up game play making playing as a Starfleet Officer or Klingon Officer obsolete compared to the Romulans. Makes no sense because in the shows allies did not have unlimited access to ships and technology. Makes no sense also because only a fool gives away all their technology and ships to a ally.
Edit: Also another thing if they allowed people to fly allied tier 5 ships how much money would they lose from some people just flying ships they already unlocked instead of buying new ships?
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Your acting like this is a huge deal and that it is unfair that you bought those FEDERATION ships and you cannot use them on your ROMULAN character. The Mogai, the Dhelan, the T'varo( the dinnerplate), the Scimitar, the Ha'feh, and it's Mirror are all tac based (Mogai is a destroyer an escort/cruiser hybrid). Romulans have more Escort-like choices then the other types combined. They have only 2 science ships (3 if you count Tulwar), and only 4 Cruisers (6 if you count Mogai as both tac based and engi based and the falchion)
Funny.
You are NOT a member of the Federation when you choose to ally with them. You are but a ally to the Federation. You still stand alone on your own with the Republic but you have access to your allies facilities and SOME of their tech. No one is going to give an ally access to their top of the line bleeding edge tech (Which is T5)
I believe we had alot of talk about this earlier on the forums.
I tend to Agree with you that our Romulan characters Should be able to use our level 50 zen store ships...... Yet it seems....(so far).... that they aren't allowing it.
Hopefully they will allow it eventually.
I think they will. Cause they don't want to lose costumers whom aren't happy about that.
Wrong, because the outrage would be even bigger from just about anyone that doesn't play a Romulan, because their factions become pointless to play as, because the Romulans get access to everything they have AND Warbirds.
Thanks for that, reasonable but still quite frustrating.
Yet it is. People can freely purchase and use Federation ships, bridges, fighters, shuttlecraft etc... on their Romulan characters and use them until they reach the RA, with no description that any RA/VA ships purchased on a true Fed characters can't be used by a Fed/Romulan. No ingame warning, no implication, no warning in the c-store, Nothing.
The only restriction listed is "Vice Admiral"
Cryptic simply made the system confusing as hell and it's just another example of how horrible this game is tutored and documented. They should have just locked Romulans out of KDF/Fed ships for good and no confusion, which cost the OP RL-cash, would have happened.
Also, do you really expect players, especially those that are new to the game to dig up months or year-old dev-blogs where it's mentioned in a side note which ship you can use and which you can't? That information belong ingame in a prominent position in the c-store.
The big conclusion that one can draw from most of the answers to the OPs post is, that it just proves again and again that STO has the ****tiest online game community. I've never seen another game or game forum were the *******-ratio was as high as in this game.
If with your Romulan you try to buy a tier 5 ship that is not a Romulan ship it will say "Your character is restricted from receiving this item and it wont let you buy it.
Unless one is blind, this seems pretty clear to me.
Also, it wasn't some kind of side note in a dev blog with one little mention, it was stated multiple times in dev blogs, on the forums, no doubt explained on social media and any kind of interview as well that this restriction was in place.
Cryptic properly informed us of this and you would literally have to have been under a freaking rock not to have gotten the message, that or you are a person that chooses not to read any official news. then it's your own damned fault for keeping yourself ignorant on purpose.
This ^^
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Besides, with the small, but nice, selection of Warbirds, why would any Republic player want to run Federation or Klingon vessels?
They should of been their own unique faction and not forming alliances but we are stuck with what we have.
Not liking only having 1 ship type choice per tier wile leveling up and also for consoles that come with allied tier 1-4 ships.
the reason you cant use 40+ fed and kdf ships is because it would defeat the purpose of playing fed or kdf. Romulans are thier own faction, not an add-on to kdf or fed and they need to have thier own ships. the reason for the whole "alliance system" is to make up for the lack of ships from lv 1-39. I understand that you spent $ on lv 50 fed content, but that stuff needs to stay on fed. Otherwise, whats the point of playing as a romulan.
Ajma420 - Lv 50 Tac - Pride of the Federation
Catherine The Great - Lv 50 Tac - Pride of the Empire
Vladimir - Lv 50 Tac - Pride of the Rihannsu Empire
The why is simple. Back when this mini-faction, or fRaction was announced, the social justice forum crusader types stepped up and complained that some players, like YOU, would try to do exactly what you thought you could do.
And they can't be having that.
So ...
Here we are.
But if you have a Fed, you can buy both the T3 Defiant and the RA Defiant and you don't see any indication that your level 20 Romulan won't be able to use them later, after all, he was able to fly your c-store Nova or Exeter with no problems, which displayed exactly the same message for him when your Romulan character was still at level 10 or the same message it displayed for him on the D'deridex.
Yes, it was. The latest Dev Blog mentioning it isn't even displayed on the homepage anymore, but has already been pushed into the archive. Only an idiot with no grasp on reality would expect new players to dig through hundreds of Dev blogs and forums posts just to know weather he can fly a ship or not. Imagine what it's going to be like for new players a month or even a year from now when those posts and blogs have completely disappered...
This is information that should be put in the place where you spend that money, namely the c-store.
Also you can't expect people to stay online 24/7, like you obviously do and follow every forum post, tweet or podcast made by the dev team. Most people just see the information on the launcher or displayed in the ingame menu. The hidden information (yes, it was, or at least it is hidden now) on which ship Romulans can fly just isn't there.
Except if you already have a level 50 fed/Klink (which is the only way to buy those ships), you would not be wasting money because you have that character. THe game does not allow Romulans to buy the level 50 ship. New player who start a romulan right away would not be able to buy the Tier 5 ships no matter what.
I also love how your people ignore the fact that allowing romulans to use tier 5 ships of the other factions would make it a one faction game as everyone would be a romulan as the other should be completely pointless.
They choose to ignore it because it doesn't fit into their arguments.
Then what would be the point of rolling anything but a Romulan, to the OP you're not part of the Federation you're a ally of the Federation.
The Klingons weren't a part of the Federation in DS9, they were allied with them.
Get the picture?
That's not how people seem to work today.
Rather than spending time either looking for the info or asking about it...they prefer to spend time on the forums after the fact and complain that nobody came to their house, sat down and told them explicitly what NOT to do.
That's why we now need to have warnings like this on everything:
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18mkv8qtcgjbwjpg/original.jpg
It really is that simple. If it is good for one, it is good for the others.
So until my Fed character can claim a Scimitar , your Romulan character will not be allowed to get his hands on an Oddy or Regent. Too bad.