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  • disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Have not had time to play my 6 KDF toons much lately - how goes it on the KDF front - are Klingons facing extinction?

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  • oldkhemaraaoldkhemaraa Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    oh, sure, make the defiant op..

    tell you whats going to happen..

    one or two players show up in a PvP match with this uber defiant..and the other team see's them.. and just quits out of the match..

    Uber defiant show up for an STF, or a fleet action...other players go.. "why bother" (if they have any brains) and just quit out..

    For certain what I would do.. why bother playing if the other person is so over powered that your non-competitive?


    Now, back to the original topic..

    nope, KDF is not dead, not extinct, not going away.

    Expansion Romulans in KDF service are able to bring Science ships into play that should rightly strike fear into the opposition. A Sci ships who's singularity powers nicely offset the fed science/carrier hybrid.

    Sure, fed gets some of the Romulan faction players, but the story has a built in bias that would tend to make a Romulan player feel just a tad guilty about allying with the Federation... ...and, for the record, the Romulan/KDF uniforms re definatly smexier! And the Romulan players definatly still dress romulan instead of having that Rom/fed uniform that simply looks like another federation fux leather tunic.

    I'm pleased with this expansion the more I play it. WHile not anywhere near as complete as I personally would have like vis vis the KDF..(orions get another ponytail hair style (why not the big hair we soaw on the Orions in the JJ movie? its a common hair style, You can't copywrite a hairstyle people!) , and Klingons get some seriously style'n braids..and Klingon male and female should also have "Big Hair" availible.. (ie, what your hair would look like AFTER you take it out of the braids..)

    Still need more uniforms.. could definatly use a couple more skirts, and go look t Val'kris.. the Klingon "spy" at the beginning of Search for SPock (ST-III) definatly need some "civilian" Kdf faction clothing... and the KDF still is in deep need of the KLINGON line of science ships. Fairs fair..Fed's got carrier which were supposed to be a KDF exclusive.. So KDF should get a line of SCience ships, with the appropriate C-STore upgrade versions, and fleet versions.



    Some other odds and ends of NPC dialog could use another once over here and there..
    ..and has been noted in another thread that some of the lower level (fleet action) content KDF characters can do need to be opened up. It's not essential.. but it would be nice to have....

    I've seen player returning to the fleet I am part of that haven't played in 2 years.. This is a very good sign.

    The KDF faction population is growing. The numbers are unlikely to ever equal Fed faction numbers, but it is all ready improving, which speak well for future PvP development.

    All we KDF ever wanted was fair treatment of our chosen faction by the game devs. Most of us take the whole Klingon warrior thing (irregardless of the characters specific race) fairly seriously...and yes, some fed players (vocal, trolling fed players) think the KDF shouldn't even be a seperate faction for all types of self justified reasons. I'm NOT sorry they didn't get thier way. It would have been an action disrespectfull of Trek to have done so. And it would NOT have been canon either.

    I hope the Dev's continue to develop KDF content in a fair and equitable way along with Federation content (yep, a lot could use a bit of a make over) and continuing Romulan Republic content.

    If there is any additional federation content that should recieve a "Klingonization" pass, I'd like it to be the "Swords" arc where fed players track down Borg technology..though story wise those missions would tend to be awfully deep into federation ..umm... influnenced space.

    I think that its time for Cryptic to reduce mission XP across the board by anywhere from 20% or more.. I levelled up a Romulan character to the level cap skipping the entirety of the Trueway mission, the borg missions, the Undine missions, and a few others besides.
    Admittadly I do have a built in XP boost due to my Life time membership, but note for the record that a fed player levelling up could easily hit level cap just folloing the mission journal which skips more then 50% of the availible federation content. I levelled my rom to the cap in 4 days of playing..under 40 hours.. thats way to fast.

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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Have not had time to play my 6 KDF toons much lately - how goes it on the KDF front - are Klingons facing extinction?

    Well, the instances on Qo'noS: First City, Qo'noS space and Omega Leonis sector block that have quadrupled since LoR sing a different song. ;)
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    "I'm not dead. I feel happy"
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    Well, the instances on Qo'noS: First City, Qo'noS space and Omega Leonis sector block that have quadrupled since LoR sing a different song. ;)

    There's too many freekin Romulans around the homeworld. There's more convenient and less congested places to conduct business than Qo'nos.

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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Give Klingons some unique excellent space trait, problem solved.
  • sjokruhlicasjokruhlica Member Posts: 434 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I play KDF about 70% of the time. But yea, we could use some updated outfits. And a 5 tac console raptor.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=729031
  • newromulan1newromulan1 Member Posts: 2,229
    edited June 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    Well, the instances on Qo'noS: First City, Qo'noS space and Omega Leonis sector block that have quadrupled since LoR sing a different song. ;)

    Yes but as to the original OP - how many of those are Romulan? Have Romulans taken over the homeworld?
  • zipagatzipagat Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    There are still way more KDF than Romulans around and on the homeworld. The Romulans just stand out more because we are not used to seeing them there. That and their ships are all huge.
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited June 2013
    I am primarily a fed player, but I have 2 klingon toons and plan to add 1 more romulan as a KDF ally. I have not played Klingons much recently; leveling a romulan and finishing the reps on 5 toons is time consuming.

    But I want to try the new missions from the beginning. I do enjoy MUCH of what playing a klingon has to offer.

    One 'red flag' holding me back playing a Klingon is the fleets. While there are good and bad fleet experiences regardless of faction, my experience with Klingon fleets has been overwhelmingly bad. Maybe it's roleplaying the 'klingon lifestyle' or just bad luck in my choosing the fleets poorly - I am hesitant to paint all Klingon fleets as bad.

    Here is my record to date (i have left out the fleet names as per forum requirements);

    KDF Fleet A - run by a pair of friends as little more than a personal storage facility. Donated 1.6 million worth of assets - zero access to resources. Kicked out when I asked for access.

    Klingon Fleet B - 200 fleet members, 3 actively donating. I donated 1.2 million worth, was promoted, but not 'enough' resources to allow me to buy anything. Note: I wasn't always on when they came available. After 4 weeks of trying to time my gameplay so I could buy weapons as assets came available, I left on my own. Stopped playing a klingon for 4 months.

    Klingon Fleet C (Well known fleet) - 250+ members. 4 emails in first 3 days with escalating donation demands. Note the first email was the usual - 'here what you need to do to gain access' while the other 2 were clear demand letters. I was willing to meet the demands so I donated 385,000 in first week, kicked the following week because I had not 'donated anything'.

    I have no desire to start my own fleet after seeing the real costs involved. I'm a member of two decent fed fleets, one just 38 days away fromt T5 starbase. 14 mil donated between the two and VERY happy to keep on donating.

    The question i would ask is, given my experience with klingons as a player, why would I support them in the future?
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yes but as to the original OP - how many of those are Romulan? Have Romulans taken over the homeworld?

    Well honestly, this is from my perspective and from what I've encontered while leveling my new Klingon and doing stuff on Qo'noS with my old pre-LoR toons, so it might not be representative, but the species that new chars. (not lvl 50) belong to are the folowing (by numbers encountered):

    1. Gorn
    2. Lethean
    3. Klingon/Romulan

    The number of Ferasan/Nausicaan/Orion new chars I've seen was aproximately the same and quite a bit lower that the top 3 I mentioned. I'm saying again - this is from what I've encountered.
    The conclusion is that the Romulans won't take over Qo'noS from Klingons for their number being about the same, while the popularity rise for Letheans has personally suprised me, although they're mean looking and the rapture attack is a nice thing to have.
    Needless to say, all the Gorn jokes and puns indications about the popularity of the Gorn were not missleading, as I can see now that since KDF turned full-faction, there are many people who started a Gorn char.
    Interesting enough, I also see a vast increase in the number of Orion ships orbiting Qo'noS and patrolling Omega Leonis.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The question i would ask is, given my experience with klingons as a player, why would I support them in the future?

    I'm very sorry to hear that you had such bad experiences with KDF fleets. But one thing worth mentioning is that every faction/side has it's fair share of rotten apples. My experience so far has been that there are far less on the KDF side, probably due to the lower general population of the faction.
    I'm not saying that there are no such experieces, since you clearly mentioned some, but it might be a streak of bad luck on your side. However, don't let that discourage you, I never had such experiences with KDF fleets and the ones I'm in are very nice, casual, cooperative with set rules that are respected, so any member knows exactly what he needs to do in order to get a promotion or access to the fleet stores.

    At the end, all players playing STO are people living on Earth. And we come in all kinds of packs. Some are nice, some are rude, some are trolling, some are thieves etc., you get the point. It's not anybody roleplaying anything, is just some people being a***s. Those things are not faction exclusive. Every faction has it's fair share of everything good and bad.
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  • szioulszioul Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    One 'red flag' holding me back playing a Klingon is the fleets. While there are good and bad fleet experiences regardless of faction, my experience with Klingon fleets has been overwhelmingly bad. Maybe it's roleplaying the 'klingon lifestyle' or just bad luck in my choosing the fleets poorly - I am hesitant to paint all Klingon fleets as bad.

    ...

    The question i would ask is, given my experience with klingons as a player, why would I support them in the future?

    Let me guess. All those were advertising on Zone chat. Never join those. There's usually a reason they need to spam chat.

    Look around the Klingon Fleet forums, and not just the first couple of pages, or just keep your eyes open for fleets when playing, and ask the players what their fleets are like and if they're recruiting.
  • mid403mid403 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    OP, Please treat your asperger's
  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited June 2013
    Try the Imperial Klingon Military. It is my fleet and it is very good to new players. Shouldn't take more 50K dilithium to get access to fleet shipyard ... from what I remember.

    Online game is "Amala" ... PM me and I will invite.

    I am primarily a fed player, but I have 2 klingon toons and plan to add 1 more romulan as a KDF ally. I have not played Klingons much recently; leveling a romulan and finishing the reps on 5 toons is time consuming.

    But I want to try the new missions from the beginning. I do enjoy MUCH of what playing a klingon has to offer.

    One 'red flag' holding me back playing a Klingon is the fleets. While there are good and bad fleet experiences regardless of faction, my experience with Klingon fleets has been overwhelmingly bad. Maybe it's roleplaying the 'klingon lifestyle' or just bad luck in my choosing the fleets poorly - I am hesitant to paint all Klingon fleets as bad.

    Here is my record to date (i have left out the fleet names as per forum requirements);

    KDF Fleet A - run by a pair of friends as little more than a personal storage facility. Donated 1.6 million worth of assets - zero access to resources. Kicked out when I asked for access.

    Klingon Fleet B - 200 fleet members, 3 actively donating. I donated 1.2 million worth, was promoted, but not 'enough' resources to allow me to buy anything. Note: I wasn't always on when they came available. After 4 weeks of trying to time my gameplay so I could buy weapons as assets came available, I left on my own. Stopped playing a klingon for 4 months.

    Klingon Fleet C (Well known fleet) - 250+ members. 4 emails in first 3 days with escalating donation demands. Note the first email was the usual - 'here what you need to do to gain access' while the other 2 were clear demand letters. I was willing to meet the demands so I donated 385,000 in first week, kicked the following week because I had not 'donated anything'.

    I have no desire to start my own fleet after seeing the real costs involved. I'm a member of two decent fed fleets, one just 38 days away fromt T5 starbase. 14 mil donated between the two and VERY happy to keep on donating.

    The question i would ask is, given my experience with klingons as a player, why would I support them in the future?
    "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

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  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Well being before LoR there was only like 1 or 2 instances on qo'nos and never more than 1 in qo'nos space. Now there are 2-3 qo'nos space and 8-10 instances of first city so kdf isn't facing extinction rofl.
  • keithforemankeithforeman Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Hi

    This is probably not the best place for this post, and if so im sorry about that, but the forums wont let me start a new thread yet.

    I've come back to the game after a looong absence (Feds were the only really playable faction back then...) and im looking at the KDF and Romulan stuff and wondering which to start a new toon on. I've always liked the Klingon ships but I'm not sure about all this "honourable warrior" stuff.

    So I guess what im wondering is, is the Klingon content, from lvl 1, fun to play? Is it worth starting a toon in the Klingon faction?
  • coldicephoenixcoldicephoenix Member Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    lucho80 wrote: »
    Give Klingons some unique excellent space trait, problem solved.
    Not Klingons yet, but Nausicans get a 2% damage bonus in space I think. Not sure how it would apply for the BOffs, but it does apply for the Nausican Capn.. so a good option I suppose for those who min-max all the time

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  • loukocloukoc Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Why play Klingon? Well it has better species than Fed, more species than elitist Romulans who take no aliens (not even cats!) in their ranks. Green UI annoys my eyes so I still prefer red.

    Keith, yes it's worth it playing from level 1 KDF, some of the old missions have been revamped, like the House of Torg storyline, when in the end ......... dies, some more missions have been added, the old shipyard transporter officer has been executed and a new one has been put who actually transports you correctly (he actually says that his predecessor was executed) and, as I said before you got more species choices than elf, cyborg elf (if you're a lifer) and pig-bat hybrid (if you pay for Legacy pack, C-store unlock or T5 Romulan rep).
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Hi

    This is probably not the best place for this post, and if so im sorry about that, but the forums wont let me start a new thread yet.

    I've come back to the game after a looong absence (Feds were the only really playable faction back then...) and im looking at the KDF and Romulan stuff and wondering which to start a new toon on. I've always liked the Klingon ships but I'm not sure about all this "honourable warrior" stuff.

    So I guess what im wondering is, is the Klingon content, from lvl 1, fun to play? Is it worth starting a toon in the Klingon faction?

    Well, to be honest I think only you can have the answer to that question. It all comes down to personal preferences, some people love the KDF, others hate it.

    In my personal opinion it's very well worth it to give it a try. I created a new Klingon char. to go through the full KDF experience that LoR made possible and I don't regret it.
    In the very least you should give it a try, the new Klingon missions can only be described as epic, very faithfull to the IP with great background setup and with random comic elements included to get you more in the mood. Some of the best work Cryptic has done in STO so far, I'll give them that. :) Also some of the old missions have been reworked and are way better now.

    To answer your question in short, yes the Klingon content - especially the one you start off with, is very fun and enjoyable to play, IMHO.
    Just rolled a new Ferasan and loving it. Specced up for ground he still does ok in space for an engineer in the Peghqu' Heavy Destroyer. Love the ability to explore inaccessible parts of the map with the 75% jump increase over a normal toon.

    Going to roll a KDF Romulan later as well, giving me 3 KDF and 4 Fed in total.

    Long live the Empire!

    Qapla'! ;)
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  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Simply put the KDF is more fun, a more friendlier community (through zone chat has gone downhill since LoR, probably Federation players playing Rommies and decided to ally with the KDF for the dilithium and stuff), always someone on to answer your question and help out, many fleets to choose from in fact the KDF has the first T5 fleet that maxed out in science too which is a big achievement.

    We have some of the best missions in the game, some of the coolest toys, some of the best species and our Omega Reputation gear is awesome and the honour guard costume you unlock at the end is awesome looking.

    The question shouldn't be why would you roll a KDF, it should be why wouldn't you roll a KDF character? ;)
    Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    There is only one possible answer to the question, "Should I roll a KDF toon?" This answer is - abso-frakkin'-lutely! The new content for starting from lvl 01 is very well written and enjoyable to play. Did it with my Lvl 50 TAC and it was impossible to stop playing until I finished all of it. Turned right around and played thru it with my other Klink toon and had just as much fun the second time. Even the repurposed missions are entertaining because I've always wondered how well my Klink would fare in them. The answer is very well. Much more fun to play them as a tlhIngan bekk instead of a Federation grass eater.

    So what are you waiting for?
    Why are you still here reading this when you could be earning glory and honor for your House?
    Hurry up already!
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  • loukocloukoc Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    It's a good thing you rolled a Ferasan matt, that gives us felines (more power to kill J'mpok and take over) um sorry about that, I meant, more power to serve the Empire well *whistles innocently* :rolleyes:

    (the brackets replace the slash in the middle of the letters that these forums desperately need)
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  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Just rolled a liberated borg KDF TAC, (wanted to start from LV1) having a good time. Talked a few of my Fed Fleeties into trying the KDF, and they are kicking themselves for not doing it sooner.I have to date, 6 Feds, 3 KDF,and 1 Rommie.
  • costello5672costello5672 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I just rolled a brand-new Klingon science officer, JUST to play the new content, so... I don't see that as "Ermagerd, no one will ever play a Klingon again!!!!1!eleven"

    On top of that, I've played a Romulan up to level 43 and I can say that all the shiny Romulan ships aren't all that game-breaking...

    My biggest concern regarding the LoR expansion is how the quality of the community KDF-side has taken a hit.

    So far, it's not quite as bad as Fed Zone chat, but it is getting there.
  • zarxidejackozarxidejacko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Always was Klingon because(cloak!) i wanted to play Romulans from 2010...
    Rolled Rom... meh.. Back to RED EMPIRE !
    2010 is my join date.
  • flyingcatmanflyingcatman Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Klingons facing extinction? This is what you get for using unsafe energy production practices on Praxis, the moon goes and blows up. Really, you must attend a basic lecture at Starfleet Academy sometime. You'd learn so much.
  • loukocloukoc Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Klingons facing extinction? This is what you get for using unsafe energy production practices on Praxis, the moon goes and blows up. Really, you must attend a basic lecture at Starfleet Academy sometime. You'd learn so much.

    I would come on my Breen ship and Breen-attack San Francisco again but it's too much effort. I'd much rather let those Starfleet cadets continue to perform dangerous maneuvers around Saturn which need a whole hearing to clear up...
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