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klaitu
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Is everyone cloaked?
I know drozana was a popular haunt, but now it's so instanced it doesn't work so well. Where's everyone hanging out these days?
I know drozana was a popular haunt, but now it's so instanced it doesn't work so well. Where's everyone hanging out these days?
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They're playing their way through the new Romulan content.
It was a zoo, nothing related, and it's borderline insulting to say they did RP there.
I don't know where the real RPer are, but I never saw one in Drozana. I think they mostly stay in fleet, starbase etc... If you are interested, there is several RPer fleet around, with various rules.
I never was interested in RP, but some people can give you useful informations.
Selective memory going on here.
Back before Dental roleplayed there extensively you would see up to two or three people actually roleplaying. Some were just there because they were doing episodes or using the exchange due to nukara being new. About 50% or more were up to questionable activities which were carried out publicly.
One time I'd headed back to Drozana to use the exchange and there was a couple cybering graphically in local. I politely asked them to stop to which they responded by sexually harassing me. I reported their behaviour. The fact that I asked them to stop would have made their behaviour very clear in the logs.
One thing that makes me happy is that sexual harassment in drozana has dropped substantially since we have added our roleplaying presence. Graphic public ERP displays in a game which children play is not acceptable behaviour. It's always a good thing to help keep this game child safe.
I have heard whispers of RPers hiding in the shadows there.
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Most real RPers ran into the shadows with the Drozana take over. What happened in Drozana, at least prior to LoR coming out, wasn't RP. Saying what it was on these boards would get me insta-banned.
I think a good chunk of the game's roleplay has been inside Foundry missions for some time, as it allows for a controlled space.
It would be handy if they could create invitation social zones across faction for groups larger than five.
Even in text based games I played, social zones are where you go to meet people but you generally try to move the action to private instances of bars, restaurants, living rooms, etc. once you've verified that somebody's writing is of the quality that you want to play with them.
And contrary to what you might think, that's more true for well written roleplay. People looking for the illicit stuff aren't shy about advertising that's what they do. Good roleplay is more likely to be private than illicit stuff is.
I think most roleplayers are excited when they have a foundry designer. It opens a lot of opportunities for story telling and entertainment.
We even have our own designer who have made Dear Leader, a day as a dentist, bar patron tales and so on. Even one of my own characters made an appearance.
Try browsing the forums and look around, Ive seen a few RP fleets advertise themselves here and there. (fed side, not sure about Klingons)
No, the fleets mentioned did not "kill" RP, although I imagine there are a lot of people just itching to say so. What "killed" RP (or reduced it) was the changes to the instance system. The 45-person instances are too small to have people randomly encounter each other and interact, especially when most players are only in social zones to use the bank or exchange. I'm not sure if the devs decided to lower the instance number to either "appease" said unhinged totalitarians by making social zones into ghost towns, or if it's just a way to increase stability while the bugs get worked out of LoR, but blaming a single fleet because you need to feed your insane, delusional persecution complex is simply ridiculous.
I did like that Ghost Widow hung out in Pocket D with devs and would hand out temporary titles.
I feel that an integral part in supporting roleplay in games like STO comes down to official community run events. Branflakes does this with gameplay events.
I used to be an admin who frequently oversaw story and plotlines in online games... And that typically meant trying to encourage roleplay, sometimes by triggering dynamic events.
It would be amazing if some of the events like the Academy events were a bit more scripted and triggered live by a human being... and if each zone had a range of events available.
In many respects, this is also what I'd like from ship interiors. Rather than a pretty static map or a mission map, a zone with dynamic events, hull breaches, etc. that can happen over time or in response to player activities.
You're right, to an extent. People can ignore you if they don't like what you're doing. The function is there, and you have as much right to occupy that space as they do. That being said, don't even try to put up this pretense of victimization. This reputation exists for a reason. Just today, I saw five members killing unsuspecting players orbiting Deep Space Nine, using D'Deridex singularity powers that damage allied targets. The intent to grief other players' experiences is clear, no matter how they spend their time in the game.
In response to the original post, it's mostly moved into private instances like Fleet Starbases and Bridges due to perceived disruptive influences. If you want to roleplay, join a Fleet.
^Completely true. Drozana was Troll central NOT an RP location. Some of it may have moved to the Nimbus planet.
the Rp went into the Grinder. same as everything else
The reputation exists because a small number of these individuals have done everything in their power to create a public perception of the fleet as some kind of cabal of griefers. People accuse us of being behind server outages, fleet bugs, all kinds of things. Whenever an issue arises, "blame *that* fleet" becomes the standard response from enough people that the propaganda has stuck with people who have had no interactions with them.
As for DS9 today, if you had stuck around a little longer (I was there), you'd have known that we (both the exploders and the explodees) were actually cooperating. Members of those fleets and public players were intentionally dropping shields and huddling in an area far away from the spawn point to have some fun exploding, seeing how far they would fly when the booms went off, and having fun. Nobody was angry, it was just some light hearted emergent gameplay that everyone involved was okay with. Nobody was hampered from entering DS9.
edit: Also, I see absolutely no recognition of the instance changes (or perhaps the fact that many people are levelling their Romulans instead of RPing) as a factor, the "blaming" of a certain fleet continues, even though the RP disappearance coincided entirely with the release of LoR.
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To add insult to injury, Dental didn't stop at RPers, they constantly troll people using the stations normal facilities as well, which is totally not okay.
On top of that, Dental claimed that they where just "RPing" while doing their trolling. That is just down right spitting in the face of anyone who RPs seriously.
Now, lets get back to the OPs topic, please.
I've seen a few RPers at the more remote stations, like SB 39, occasionally they still pop up at DS9, I'd assume the vast majority are holed up at their fleet starbases or friend's bridges though.
You would understand if you saw some of the insane ramblings on unrelated youtube videos by members, and other harassment. Really why do we get brought up in every RP thread? The answer is simple: they are upset that they are not able to get away with terms of service breaches. This is why the discussion has a veiled aspect where the truth is being withheld.
We don't start these threads, they are used as hostile propaganda. A method of grooming the reader to believe lies. If there was a genuine interest in roleplaying they would be doing it rather than moaning about a fleet that will not let them in.
Look we're not ever letting you in.
More "Naming and Shaming". Notice how the apparent "Troll Griefer Hacker Fleet" follows the forum rules, unlike certain people on the other side of the issue.
Once again, this comes down to "define trolling". Apparently dancing is trolling. Apparently particle effects are trolling. Apparently having the wrong Fleet name above your head is trolling just by being in the same areas. This is the kind of totalitarian attitude I am talking about. "Taking RP Seriously" to enough people means "I must control the entire environment, this place belongs to me and me alone" and anyone who does not kowtow to this very narrow code of behavior being imposed by these people is "trolling".
So I ask you to specifically define "trolling". The accusations being levelled are always in such broad strokes that the only real message I am getting is "I just don't like you". That's fine, but there's a difference between not liking someone and them being guilty of some offence.
These are all things that I have seen "that fleet" do against people in drozana; ERPers, RPers and normal players alike. I do not think that anyone should, as you put it "control the entire environment, this place belongs to me and me alone," unfortunately, I see members of "that fleet" living up to that statement all the time, far more then I see RPers doing so. All I ask is that you put down the fire extinguishers and leave the people who aren't doing any harm alone.
First you redefine trolling. That in itself is trolling. You are attempting to ruin this thread by derailing it.
You are throwing your toys out of the cot because people are wearing EV suits? And fire extinguishers? All of which are normal gameplay equipment. Do you get angry about people using phasers on their ships?
You statement saying that you don't think anyone should control the entire environment. This is ironic as you are trying to control how people roleplay, how people play the game. You are speaking out against your own behaviour. At this point it's obvious you are trolling and attempting a derail. The moderators will tell me off for responding to you anymore.