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  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    a3001 wrote: »
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=602171

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=591611

    nuff of this "GIMME JJ-PRIZE!!!". These threads just mushroom out of control!

    Your first link is to a forum I posted, which covered more then just the JJ Constitution Class, and in which you made a poor argument, about the AR Connie, and the Second Forum is about the Narada, aka a ship from the PRIME Universe, so again your argument is invaild.

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  • astro2244astro2244 Member Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    There's really no point in beating this dead targ. Said topic has been addressed by the dev team before. Ip agreements do not give permission for these ships to be added, without running into major legal hassles and fees, which bottom line aren't worth it at the end of the day.
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  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    astro2244 wrote: »
    There's really no point in beating this dead targ. Said topic has been addressed by the dev team before. Ip agreements do not give permission for these ships to be added, without running into major legal hassles and fees, which bottom line aren't worth it at the end of the day.

    I find beating the TRIBBLE out of dead things rather enjoyable. While yes, it is unlikely, its not Impossible as many say
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  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Your first link is to a forum I posted, which covered more then just the JJ Constitution Class, and in which you made a poor argument, about the AR Connie, and the Second Forum is about the Narada, aka a ship from the PRIME Universe, so again your argument is invaild.

    P.S. Kittens are ugly and so are you :p

    Heard of the term "Ad hominem" before?
    Rejoice JJ Trek people....

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    Why are you not rejoicing?
  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    a3001 wrote: »
    Heard of the term "Ad hominem" before?

    Yeah, which is invalid here as all i did in no way undermine your character
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  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Yeah, which is invalid here as all i did in no way undermine your character
    P.S. Kittens are ugly and so are you :p

    You were saying?
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  • admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    JJ Trek is Canon (unfortunatly)

    but

    It's an alternate timeline which doesn't exist in the STO universe (Yaaay!)

    The only good thing about JJ trek is that it added some needed spice to the normal timeline with the Hobus nova/ Romulus destruction.

    it's not cannon. END OF STORY.
  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    it's not cannon. END OF STORY.

    Sorry, but it is. don't get Butthurt
    You were saying?

    Calling him ugly undermines his character how?
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  • juliamateusjuliamateus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    "ad hominem" arguments argue against the person making the opposing argument, instead of the actual argument itself - that's why it's a fallacy. It's nothing to do with character.

    Julia "posting in an epic thread" Mateus
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    it's not cannon. END OF STORY.
    Everything in the '09 movie up to going into the alternate universe is canon. Spock spent 19 years on Romulus preaching Unification and the super-nova destroyed Hobos and Romulus. Then Spock and the Narada were pulled back in time due to the red matter wormhole and that created a parallel universe. JJ Trek is that parallel universe.

    And there is only 1 N in canon when discussing criteria of how something is judged. When you use 2 that spells a type of gun.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    "ad hominem" arguments argue against the person making the opposing argument, instead of the actual argument itself - that's why it's a fallacy. It's nothing to do with character.

    Julia "posting in an epic thread" Mateus

    An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an argument made personally against an opponent instead of against their argument.[2] Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as an informal fallacy,[3][4][5] more precisely an irrelevance.[6]

    From Wiki
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  • juliamateusjuliamateus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an argument made personally against an opponent instead of against their argument.[2] Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as an informal fallacy,[3][4][5] more precisely an irrelevance.[6]

    From Wiki


    Yes, that is indeed what I just said. I'm glad Wikipedia agrees with me?
  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Yes, that is indeed what I just said. I'm glad Wikipedia agrees with me?

    From where I come from how someone looks has nothing to do with their character, sorry we are from different worlds
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited April 2013
    it's not cannon. END OF STORY.

    You are correct, it is not a ship based weapon.
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    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

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  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    artan42 wrote: »
    You are correct, it is not a ship based weapon.

    Lol, I like this guy -^
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  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Would yall accept this or this as alternate skins to the TOS Enterprise?
  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    scififan78 wrote: »
    Would yall accept this or this as alternate skins to the TOS Enterprise?

    Hell yes, its a sexy combo
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  • phoeniz1994phoeniz1994 Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    well, we have the Ambassador from another dimension, so we may end up in JJ's univers aswell ;)
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  • phoeniz1994phoeniz1994 Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    trek21 wrote: »
    There's a lot of opinions about that... but as for the forums having 'hissing and spitting', that's not unusual in MMO's :D

    Star Trek fans have mixed reactions to the film, for a multitude of reasons, some logical... some not nearly so. Best left at that, but I will tell that those who have a corrosive illogical hatred for this movie (for whatever reason) will always find reasons to dislike everything about it, including the ship.

    And some are in denial that it's nothing like what they want... okay, really done now.

    I wouldn't mind having the JJprise in-game, personally. If we have the Galaxy-X, which is also from an alternate timeline, why not that one? Plus the JJ movies, like it or not, are canon so they can used with permission... if they ever sort out who'd Cryptic have to talk to for the rights XD

    with so many time travels and dimension-travels, i suppose we can do the same with JJ-verse
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    well, we have the Ambassador from another dimension, so we may end up in JJ's univers aswell ;)

    The what?
    You do know the Ambassador class was built before the changes in the timeline, right?
    There was an Ambassador class at the battle of Wolf 359 against the Borg.

    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120621114737/memorydelta/images/0/01/USS_Bellerphon_-_USS_Yamaguchi,_aft.jpg
  • voicesdarkvoicesdark Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'm tired of seeing people use the Galaxy-X being a reason why the JJ ship should be in the game because they are both from Alternate timelines. I think it's time there were finally some distinctions made about this.

    Galaxy-X: It is entirely possible that a Galaxy class was redesigned into the Gal-X and highly likely it wasn't even originally the Enterprise. It wouldn't be the first time a ship was pulled from mothballs and pressed back into service during a time of war. By the way for those that haven't bothered to connect the dots, that war was a Federation-Klingon war....sound familiar?

    JJ Enterprise: Alternate timeline has NOTHING to do with the JJ Enterprise design. This design is simply a modernization on the original.

    The issue has nothing to do with timeline or canon or non-canon or even the age of the ship, it simply boils down to Cryptic and CBS do NOT have the rights to the JJ Enterprise, these rights belong to Paramount. It's been blatantly obvious that Paramount has no interest in anything that would distract from the movies and anything they have direct control over for the time being.
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  • chi1701dchi1701d Member Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    misterde3 wrote: »
    The what?
    You do know the Ambassador class was built before the changes in the timeline, right?
    There was an Ambassador class at the battle of Wolf 359 against the Borg.

    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120621114737/memorydelta/images/0/01/USS_Bellerphon_-_USS_Yamaguchi,_aft.jpg

    Not sure if it was on screen, but it was also definitely mentioned and then blown up in first season of tng ep 25 Conspiracy.
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    chi1701d wrote: »
    Not sure if it was on screen, but it was also definitely mentioned and then blown up in first season of tng ep 25 Conspiracy.

    You mean the Ambassador class USS Horatio, yep that was mentioned...name and class...everything.:)
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    maybe bring it in as a enemy ship

    "General alert all captains ,A renegade ship from another reality has crossed via dimensional vortex and is even now trying to destroy vulcan .
    Respond immediate ."

    Award for destroying it could be a trophy (kirks head on a spike) 200 fleet marks
    or maybe a "liberated uhura " boff
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  • admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    scififan78 wrote: »
    Would yall accept this or this as alternate skins to the TOS Enterprise?

    nope to TMPish
  • admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Sorry, but it is. don't get Butthurt



    Calling him ugly undermines his character how?

    No it isn't. And now the idiopt is doing Star Wars. And he changes a Star Destroyer, you still gonna say it's cannon?
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The star wars fans are not as gentle and loving as we Trekies

    they will tear his soul out and EAT it
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  • earlnyghthawkearlnyghthawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    No...just no.


    Nothing to see here, move along.....:D
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  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    scififan78 wrote: »
    Would yall accept this or this as alternate skins to the TOS Enterprise?

    Not really and no other game would put it in.btw Where did you find those as i know most of all modelers.

    No to the OP as this is based on Gene's Star Trek not JJs.it is not canon as it takes place in alternate universe set in the 23C.
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited June 2013
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