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  • thorfirethorfire Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Well, I guess it's like in the IT department where I work. The easiest way to improve server stability is by throwing of the users. No users servers running fine :D
  • sharrashimadasharrashimada Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Brandon i am sorry, but its not a connection issue. Its clearly some bug in the client. My best guess would be a memory leak. Everything works fine, except the framerates are dropping to hell.
  • pwefailpwefail Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    just completed an stf.no problems whatsoever
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  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,336 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Although I've only been seeing issues with running STFs, I'll put my results here for you guys.

    Tracert

    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 7 ms 4 ms 4 ms 192.168.0.1
    2 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms eugn-dsl-gw25.eugn.qwest.net [67.42.192.25]
    3 27 ms 23 ms 56 ms eugn-agw1.inet.qwest.net [67.42.193.193]
    4 104 ms 37 ms 37 ms sjp-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net [67.14.34.38]
    5 40 ms 38 ms 38 ms te0-0-0-6.ccr22.sjc03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
    .12.189]
    6 39 ms 38 ms 39 ms te0-5-0-3.ccr22.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
    .41.213]
    7 40 ms 40 ms 41 ms te0-1-0-5.ccr22.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.
    4.5]
    8 86 ms 85 ms 85 ms te0-3-0-1.ccr22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
    .6.41]
    9 109 ms 108 ms 108 ms te0-3-0-2.ccr22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
    .6.213]
    10 114 ms 112 ms 111 ms te0-5-0-6.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
    .45.242]
    11 113 ms 113 ms 112 ms te4-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.25
    4]
    12 122 ms 125 ms 124 ms 38.111.40.114
    13 113 ms 111 ms 110 ms 208.95.185.41

    Trace complete.

    Nettest:
    contacting nettest.exe server..
    Local IP: 71.34.241.126
    Ping: 111.1 msec
    Port: 80: 337 KB/sec 13 KB/sec 357 KB/sec 500
    Port: 80: 342 KB/sec 14 KB/sec 363 KB/sec 500
    Port: 443: 365 KB/sec 13 KB/sec 385 KB/sec 500
    Port: 443: 297 KB/sec 11 KB/sec 314 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7255: 113 KB/sec 5 KB/sec 122 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7255: 320 KB/sec 12 KB/sec 338 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7003: 341 KB/sec 12 KB/sec 360 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7003: 360 KB/sec 13 KB/sec 380 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7202: 349 KB/sec 13 KB/sec 368 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7202: 355 KB/sec 13 KB/sec 375 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7499: 357 KB/sec 13 KB/sec 377 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7499: 171 KB/sec 7 KB/sec 181 KB/sec 500
    Port: 80: 350 KB/sec 14 KB/sec 370 KB/sec 500
    Idle NIC bandwidth Send: 0 KB/sec Recv: 0 KB/sec

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  • radastirradastir Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The lag is also in story missions :(
  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I am not getting internet lag.

    When I saucer sperate my ody or aquarius, it slowly starts eating my framerate. It also appears to affect others, but not everybody. In a very small sample set it seems to be affecting Nvidia users and not ATI, but it was an extremely small sample size.

    You may be looking in the wrong place.

    Edit: Preliminary reports are saying turning off engine/sheild/deflector visuals is solving the framerate issue

    Edit2: That does appear to work.
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  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited March 2013
    Not just stfs , had this parked up in sol too
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  • bigcheese256bigcheese256 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    This is being caused by an Odyssey player on your team with their Saucer or Aquarius undocked.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=598081
  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,827 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    ESD seemed a little laggy when I was on about 20 minutes ago. That was after half an ISE run thanks to the queue shoving me into a half finished instance of twits that had lost the optional.
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited March 2013
    This is being caused by an Odyssey player on your team with their Saucer or Aquarius undocked.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=598081

    Thanks for this report. I've passed it along so it can be investigated.

    For anyone that mentioned they were experiencing lag in this thread, were you in an instance with a ship capable of separating?

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • sean2448sean2448 Member Posts: 815 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    alot of team several times got disconected but I myself screen frose moved real slow
    so far on ground noissue as of yet
    I think part ot the problem is infected had several issue before patch code updated did not go right
  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Thanks for this report. I've passed it along so it can be investigated.

    For anyone that mentioned they were experiencing lag in this thread, were you in an instance with a ship capable of separating?

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Considering the fact that the general consensus is that ship separation systems such as the Aquarius, Hoh'SuS, MVAM, and saucer separations are causing this problem, it might not be a bad idea to post a bulletin (like the ones you used when new spotlights came out pre-S7) warning players not to use this stuff if they have visuals enabled.

    Just saying. :P

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  • captainmarvelushcaptainmarvelush Member Posts: 134 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I'm using my Multi-Vector Advanced Escort, and my game freezes completely. Totally unable to do anything except shut it off externally.
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  • the1tiggletthe1tigglet Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    was just in an STF the game started skipping alot for everyone (FR skips big ones) on the STF team, it got slower and slower until the whole game crashed for all of us in the STF team just now. Yeah. And what's worse is I'll prolly have to wait an hour now because I had to force quit the game which made me a deserter. Thanks.
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited March 2013
    It looks like separation powers seem to be the culprit for most -- the team is investigating and working on a fix.

    If you are still experiencing this lag but were not in an instance where a separation was occurring, please continue to post information after reading this post: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=8864681#post8864681

    Thanks for your patience and help in tracking this down.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • bigcheese256bigcheese256 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    dalolorn wrote: »
    Considering the fact that the general consensus is that ship separation systems such as the Aquarius, Hoh'SuS, MVAM, and saucer separations are causing this problem, it might not be a bad idea to post a bulletin (like the ones you used when new spotlights came out pre-S7) warning players not to use this stuff if they have visuals enabled.

    Just saying. :P


    I second this.
  • bulabajonesbulabajones Member Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Hi Captains,

    Can you please provide the following so I can pass it along?

    1) The time you were experiencing this issue
    2) Results of a Tracert pointed to patchserver.crypticstudios.com (instructions)
    3) Nettest results (instructions)

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

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    SERVER NOT RESPONDING (362.32s)
    Patching 87 files, 160.08 KB/s

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  • brataccasbrataccas Member Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    That will cost you 200 Entertainment Provisions, 55,000 Dilithium, 215,000 Expertise, and 500 Warp Cores.

    Lol! And 500 Rom Marks - which you have to grind by doing Radiation Reports :P
  • drunkadmiraldrunkadmiral Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Brandon i am sorry, but its not a connection issue. Its clearly some bug in the client..

    agree, my ping is like normal, but had lag 4 times during pvp matches, and all 10 people from match had lags same time, video: http://youtu.be/XOmDdKnlsF8
  • cptskeeterukcptskeeteruk Member Posts: 559 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Yeah since patch i have noticed that when i was in sol near esd the game just grew to a standstill being 1fps or worse. My connection was fine. The game was just eating all my pcs resources for some reason i think tho i didnt really check task manager but the game defo for the first time i have ever seen this became unresponsive. I had to force the task to close in task manager. There was no server issue afaik as well. Maybe its caused by alt and tab i dunno but i noticed this when i alt and tabbed and closed tribble then came back into holodeck and attempted to exit the game on there but when i got there it just went down the crapped in fps. My spec, ive never once experienced slow down in sto its generally always 60fps.

    This is a issue brandon, im sure you will get more reports because theres complaints here, complaints ingame chat with my fleet about this. Something has defo happened since the last patch.

    I also noticed some stuttering issue with fps responsiveness on tribble as well briefly just before i exited tribble so whats in the holodeck patch might be in the tribble patch too and we dont want this bug getting left for the may update now do we.
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  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Well played, Buluba, Well played!
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  • kreugekreuge Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I have had the worst lag ever since today's "maintenance" was completed. I thought you were supposed to be fixing it, not making it worse.
  • stulloydstulloyd Member Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Wow. Wheres this increased Stability in last hr alone I've had to restart twice due to game client Freezing. Not cause of PC as PC says it's still running fine & now I been booted from Server in a PvP leaving my teamate in hell. Not good. So much for increased server stability. Seems its gone the other way. Decreased server stability. Why am I paying for this to ahve these issues.

    & now I can't even log back in not pleased really aint.
  • stulloydstulloyd Member Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Yes My ship is a Multi Vector Advanced Assualt & when game completely froze both times eariler it was in Multi Vector Mode.
  • thoburmasgo1thoburmasgo1 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    quick question, has anyone checked the flux capacitor to make sure it's running at peak efficiency?
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited March 2013
    Yeah since patch i have noticed that when i was in sol near esd the game just grew to a standstill being 1fps or worse. My connection was fine. The game was just eating all my pcs resources for some reason i think tho i didnt really check task manager but the game defo for the first time i have ever seen this became unresponsive. I had to force the task to close in task manager. There was no server issue afaik as well. Maybe its caused by alt and tab i dunno but i noticed this when i alt and tabbed and closed tribble then came back into holodeck and attempted to exit the game on there but when i got there it just went down the crapped in fps. My spec, ive never once experienced slow down in sto its generally always 60fps.

    This is a issue brandon, im sure you will get more reports because theres complaints here, complaints ingame chat with my fleet about this. Something has defo happened since the last patch.

    I also noticed some stuttering issue with fps responsiveness on tribble as well briefly just before i exited tribble so whats in the holodeck patch might be in the tribble patch too and we dont want this bug getting left for the may update now do we.

    Yes, as I posted on the page before: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=8871781&postcount=46

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • stulloydstulloyd Member Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Thxs for the update. Now when does game come bk online. LOL. Cause I'm going to bed in a mintue. LOL.
  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    As far as I can tell servers are up... tho I logged I might be wrong.

    Game is playable if you A. Don't pug so you can't be trolled or B. run solo stuff so you can't be trolled.

    And if you notice more instances that cause the problem, the more information the better
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  • chronoss2012chronoss2012 Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    games just stuck every so often lettingme go one inch....

    do i quit get banned for a hour OR what?
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It's probably their server glitching.

    Go have a meal, watch a movie and come back and it should be fixed.
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