In TNG the galaxy was the only Federation ship that was a straight up match to the romulan warbird. Now in combat the warbird would hold the advantage of surprise with their cloak but in the end it would come down to captains and crew that would determine the victor.
Actually, in the end it came down to the writers and where the story needed to go. Folks often forget that in discussing things from Star Trek as if they were discussing Ford vs. Chevy, nVidia vs. AMD/ATI, McDonald's vs. Burger King, etc, etc, etc. It's not real - the writers did what they wanted...and there are many cases where they'd throw X, Y, or Z (plot armor, plot weapon, plot device) into the mix to change what they might have had happen a previous time.
I agree. And it makes more sense that it's that, then the Romulan Faction that I'd love to see, but not at the expense of the Klingons not being finished and fully fleshed out. Because we know they are not.
They'd also have to find a way to introduce new maps and new PVP options when they release a new faction. Something else I think we're still at least another year or two from getting.
I agree. But then on the other side, making a romulan faction there is more to profit from. It may not be exactly as Husanak said but close, I'm sure. Lots of "open your wallets" items. Which, as long as its not something dumb and useless, I would agree to pay for.
After they start romulans, they will gradually add more kling pve and maybe few more other cstore items. Same with romulans. It's pretty much the standard software release type, get a decent version out (hopefully cryptic will do its best with this, lol), then release patch after patch to fix stuff and add some features.
Hear! Sons of Kahless
Hear! Daughters too.
The blood of battle washes clean.
The Warrior brave and true.
We fight, we love, and then we kill...
We all know the Romulan faction, if ever, is not comming soon. Can we just let this thread die and get onto more important topics? In fact, this is not even a PVP topic.
The PvE isn't that great, guys. The less of it we have the better.
I don't know about you, but I like leveling my KDF chars fast and easily. I can only hope that the Rom faction will have even less leveling tedium involved.
Go Level-40 starting point for Rom faction or go home! :P
I don't mean to say it this way.. and it will sound mean. Ment to sound funny..
But:
Awww.... that's so CUTE! I bet you believe in the Easter bunny and Santa.. doesn't make them any more real. :P
Lol. I only believe in Santa...
Seriously now, doing this could bring them more money. They expand the player pool, (at least star dagger will be back for a while, lol) and in time, while they add few levels, they get new lock box promos and cstore items that could be related to new levels. I certainly hope they will do at least a little for pvp, that could in fact bring them easier revenue than level expansion. I'm thinking they might have the strategy on expanding more now and fill in the gaps later, which again, may bring them more revenue if done smart.
Hear! Sons of Kahless
Hear! Daughters too.
The blood of battle washes clean.
The Warrior brave and true.
We fight, we love, and then we kill...
If it's an Enemy Romulan Faction, how will they have access to Romulan Rep? Will there be an entirely separate Romulan Rep grind for them?
Would they work with Omega Force? Would they have that rep grind? Would they have access to Borg and Omega sets? Would a third set be created for them to grind akin to MACO/KHG? Would they have access to some form of adaptive versions of MACO/KHG? Would Fed/KDF have access to some form of adaptive version of whatever the Romulans get?
How long would it take to grind up that starbase, eh? What about the embassy - how would that work? How would Romulans have an embassy with themselves? What "fleet" events would be available for them? What about just gear/Dil? What would their Minefield be?
Think of all the Romulan BOFFs/DOFFs that would have to be made available - imagine trying to search the Exchange in it's current form, lol. Heck, think about all the DOFFing missions that would have to be added. Would there be a Romulan Academy? What about the Commendation Ranks? DI/RP?
What would be the "off-limits" Romulan sector? How would it be connected to the rest of the map? How would Romulans get access to various areas of the map? Additional transwarp gates? Iconian gates?
How would non-Fleet/non-STF gear that is available from playing episodes/replaying episodes be made available to Romulan characters?
Okay, maybe it was more than a few things...and they're far from the only things.
You're expecting something cool like a "Romulan Faction" from Cryptic? Have fun playing your New Romulus Episode. You can tag epohhs while you're there.
Lol like they would come out with a new faction to play with. They can't even put up a new map for PVP how the hell would they integrate a whole new faction hahahahhaha.
More Epohs, more PVE, Romulan Lockboxes with Warbird Ships to win hahaha thats what it is all about:P
C-Store Inc. is still looking for active members on the fed side. If you don't have a fleet feel free to contact me in game @stegi.
If it's an Enemy Romulan Faction, how will they have access to Romulan Rep? Will there be an entirely separate Romulan Rep grind for them?
Would they work with Omega Force? Would they have that rep grind? Would they have access to Borg and Omega sets? Would a third set be created for them to grind akin to MACO/KHG? Would they have access to some form of adaptive versions of MACO/KHG? Would Fed/KDF have access to some form of adaptive version of whatever the Romulans get?
How long would it take to grind up that starbase, eh? What about the embassy - how would that work? How would Romulans have an embassy with themselves? What "fleet" events would be available for them? What about just gear/Dil? What would their Minefield be?
Think of all the Romulan BOFFs/DOFFs that would have to be made available - imagine trying to search the Exchange in it's current form, lol. Heck, think about all the DOFFing missions that would have to be added. Would there be a Romulan Academy? What about the Commendation Ranks? DI/RP?
What would be the "off-limits" Romulan sector? How would it be connected to the rest of the map? How would Romulans get access to various areas of the map? Additional transwarp gates? Iconian gates?
How would non-Fleet/non-STF gear that is available from playing episodes/replaying episodes be made available to Romulan characters?
Okay, maybe it was more than a few things...and they're far from the only things.
This is definitely a valid, and sobering point. No, I do not believe they will make Romulans a PVP Only Faction if they release it in may. How ever if they are releasing it in May, it might not come with everything listed above immediately. It may come with it's own missions, Episodes, and ships, with the rest of it being released over the next 3-6 months. What would matter first would be to make sure the have enough content to get from level 1-50. It might even come with Doffs, but that might be it. May not even have the Reputation system, or even all of the reputation system available. May only come with Romulan Rep at the start. Omega could just get renamed Tal-shiar, but I'm hopeful they won't do something THAT lazy.
They said they were going to give a new Featured Episode some where when they were talking about after they released the Romulan Reputation, so more then likely that is going to be in May. A Romulan playable faction how ever Is plausible if they've been working on it on the back burner since F2P or even sooner. Because Romulans are the highest voted for, and most anticipated playable Faction. They could even link the Romulan playable faction to only unlock when you've done the Featured Episode. I'm expecting though a Romulan special BOFF and/or DOFF at the end of it. Maybe even a new console (HOPE NOT!) for a Romulan Cloaking Device. (Better not!)
You think that your beta test was bad?
Think about this: American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
I must admit, I'm very, very surprised. Not to mention the other stuff coming in too. Based on translations I read, you'll be able to start KDF from level 1 too.
Tholian rep is coming too, so might want to go and pick up your cryo-pulsewave and other Tholian kit before they start charging dil. Plus, looks like we'll finally get those elite Widow fighters then.
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That would be a shame
Can't wait I hope that with a third faction pvp will become more interesting !
Fixsies for you.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
a history of sto pvp: 2010 - 2011
a history of sto pvp: 2012 - 2013
In STO the Galaxy is a T4 Captain rank cruiser.
Actually, in the end it came down to the writers and where the story needed to go. Folks often forget that in discussing things from Star Trek as if they were discussing Ford vs. Chevy, nVidia vs. AMD/ATI, McDonald's vs. Burger King, etc, etc, etc. It's not real - the writers did what they wanted...and there are many cases where they'd throw X, Y, or Z (plot armor, plot weapon, plot device) into the mix to change what they might have had happen a previous time.
I agree. But then on the other side, making a romulan faction there is more to profit from. It may not be exactly as Husanak said but close, I'm sure. Lots of "open your wallets" items. Which, as long as its not something dumb and useless, I would agree to pay for.
After they start romulans, they will gradually add more kling pve and maybe few more other cstore items. Same with romulans. It's pretty much the standard software release type, get a decent version out (hopefully cryptic will do its best with this, lol), then release patch after patch to fix stuff and add some features.
Hear! Daughters too.
The blood of battle washes clean.
The Warrior brave and true.
We fight, we love, and then we kill...
I don't mean to say it this way.. and it will sound mean. Ment to sound funny..
But:
Awww.... that's so CUTE! I bet you believe in the Easter bunny and Santa.. doesn't make them any more real. :P
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
I don't know about you, but I like leveling my KDF chars fast and easily. I can only hope that the Rom faction will have even less leveling tedium involved.
Go Level-40 starting point for Rom faction or go home! :P
Lol. I only believe in Santa...
Seriously now, doing this could bring them more money. They expand the player pool, (at least star dagger will be back for a while, lol) and in time, while they add few levels, they get new lock box promos and cstore items that could be related to new levels. I certainly hope they will do at least a little for pvp, that could in fact bring them easier revenue than level expansion. I'm thinking they might have the strategy on expanding more now and fill in the gaps later, which again, may bring them more revenue if done smart.
Hear! Daughters too.
The blood of battle washes clean.
The Warrior brave and true.
We fight, we love, and then we kill...
i don't think theres any way to argue its not happening now, with rom icons in the gateway database now
Unless they put it there as a red herring...
It can be for testing
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Could also be a count down until the return of Star*Dagger.
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
LOL yeah! Bring 'em all back!
Anyway...
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
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I don't think it will be a PVP only Faction.. They learned their lesson with the Klingon Empire. :P
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
If it's an Enemy Romulan Faction, how will they have access to Romulan Rep? Will there be an entirely separate Romulan Rep grind for them?
Would they work with Omega Force? Would they have that rep grind? Would they have access to Borg and Omega sets? Would a third set be created for them to grind akin to MACO/KHG? Would they have access to some form of adaptive versions of MACO/KHG? Would Fed/KDF have access to some form of adaptive version of whatever the Romulans get?
How long would it take to grind up that starbase, eh? What about the embassy - how would that work? How would Romulans have an embassy with themselves? What "fleet" events would be available for them? What about just gear/Dil? What would their Minefield be?
Think of all the Romulan BOFFs/DOFFs that would have to be made available - imagine trying to search the Exchange in it's current form, lol. Heck, think about all the DOFFing missions that would have to be added. Would there be a Romulan Academy? What about the Commendation Ranks? DI/RP?
What would be the "off-limits" Romulan sector? How would it be connected to the rest of the map? How would Romulans get access to various areas of the map? Additional transwarp gates? Iconian gates?
How would non-Fleet/non-STF gear that is available from playing episodes/replaying episodes be made available to Romulan characters?
Okay, maybe it was more than a few things...and they're far from the only things.
Buy playable Romulan toon.
Romulan toon starts off as fed faction untill lvl 10 , you then have to choose which faction to put him in fed or klink.
Only the playable Romulan toon can fly a Romulan ship.
Romulan toons cant fly fed, tholian, breen, frengi, Klingon or Jem ships.
Romulan ships purchased through Z store only.
Then the existing reputation is used for your romulan toon after you put him/her into a fed or klink faction and you hit lvl 50.
or...
New episodes !
wow you have more faith in them then I do.
PvP only, starting level 50, no tutorial......sounds familiar anyone.
a history of sto pvp: 2010 - 2011
a history of sto pvp: 2012 - 2013
More Epohs, more PVE, Romulan Lockboxes with Warbird Ships to win hahaha thats what it is all about:P
This is definitely a valid, and sobering point. No, I do not believe they will make Romulans a PVP Only Faction if they release it in may. How ever if they are releasing it in May, it might not come with everything listed above immediately. It may come with it's own missions, Episodes, and ships, with the rest of it being released over the next 3-6 months. What would matter first would be to make sure the have enough content to get from level 1-50. It might even come with Doffs, but that might be it. May not even have the Reputation system, or even all of the reputation system available. May only come with Romulan Rep at the start. Omega could just get renamed Tal-shiar, but I'm hopeful they won't do something THAT lazy.
They said they were going to give a new Featured Episode some where when they were talking about after they released the Romulan Reputation, so more then likely that is going to be in May. A Romulan playable faction how ever Is plausible if they've been working on it on the back burner since F2P or even sooner. Because Romulans are the highest voted for, and most anticipated playable Faction. They could even link the Romulan playable faction to only unlock when you've done the Featured Episode. I'm expecting though a Romulan special BOFF and/or DOFF at the end of it. Maybe even a new console (HOPE NOT!) for a Romulan Cloaking Device. (Better not!)
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
My character Tsin'xing
It's happening!!!!!
*Pulls himself together again*
I must admit, I'm very, very surprised. Not to mention the other stuff coming in too. Based on translations I read, you'll be able to start KDF from level 1 too.
Tholian rep is coming too, so might want to go and pick up your cryo-pulsewave and other Tholian kit before they start charging dil. Plus, looks like we'll finally get those elite Widow fighters then.