New uniform designs, including the regular ones they wore which Cryptic already designed back in Beta, the academy uniform, and the flag officer uniform.
New weapons.
Seems to me there's quite a bit of material that could be used from the film to expand this game.
I do think everyone shoudl have the ship they want to fly in this game but personally, I'm not fond of the JJprise at all. It's also massive so the same reason for the Enterprise J not being wanted in the game I'm thinking would apply to fugly JJprise also. It's just too big for the primitive Cryptic engine this game uses! Timeline issues can be debated but we've got MU ships and the Galaxy X is a ship from an alternative future in the Prime Timeline.
I do think everyone shoudl have the ship they want to fly in this game but personally, I'm not fond of the JJprise at all.
I'm not very fond of the Galor's design. It always looked awkward in space in DS9. And continues to look that way in game.
It's also massive so the same reason for the Enterprise J not being wanted in the game I'm thinking would apply to fugly JJprise also. It's just too big for the primitive Cryptic engine this game uses! Timeline issues can be debated but we've got MU ships and the Galaxy X is a ship from an alternative future in the Prime Timeline.
It's not the size of the Enterprise J. It's much bigger than the regular Constituion, but nowhere near as big as the J was. It would be smaller than the Envoy class cruiser which flies just fine in this game so it can fit this game.
The JJ Prise is roughly the same size as the Galaxy, it's bigger than the Conny but not that big, it was supposed to be Conny sized but they goofed with the hanger scenes which would never have fit in a ship that small, so the intended size was increased to explain the disparity.
The J is a multi-generation inter-galactic city ship, it's size is to accommodate carrying crews and their descendents from one galaxy to another.
Just having ships with different layouts would be a nice change, a single engine design like the Kelvin, multi pod designs that don't conform to the saucer with 2 pods aft that most Fed ships conform to. The Nomad skin for the Emissary Star Cruiser was my favorite for a long time before the C-Store Oddy's came out and I would love to build an Odyssey with a similar layout.
If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
What in the heck do we have to gain from jj verse, nothing. To borrow a quote: "He destroyed a prime universe planet and we fall back, he took the greatest ambassador and we fall back. not again. The line must be drawn here!!!! This far no further!!!"
:P
NO JJ-Prise!
((And i'm so glad that cbs and paramount have the above agreement, about ships from movies))
For the last time JJ Wreck IS........NOT......CANON! It's a pathetic reboot that has divided the fan base.
Denial doesn't become you either
Whether you like it or not, CBS and Paramount have the events of JJ Trek as canon, and there is no arguing otherwise. Well, unless you wish to be delusional...
And 'pathetic' really doesn't agree with total gross, critic reviews and so on Sure former Trek fan opnions are mixed, but that was to be expected. So I really don't think we've hit 'divided' yet; this isn't a war of opinions after all.
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Also quite possibly the Kobayashi Maru type, Armstrong type, Mayflower type , Defiant type, and Newton type ships, considering they are all Kelvin era rather than JJPrise era.
Oh didn't a source confirm that the Kelvin is an Einstein Class vessel?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Also quite possibly the Kobayashi Maru type, Armstrong type, Mayflower type , Defiant type, and Newton type ships, considering they are all Kelvin era rather than JJPrise era.
Well...probably not.
The Kelvin has a regirstry of NCC-0514 the Armstrong has NCC-1769 and the Mayflower has NCC-1621 which may indicate they are much, much newer designs.
Any way to make the Kelvin? That looked rather nice as well.
Not the Kelvin per se.
And the reason for this has nothing to do with whether the ship class should technically exist in this timeline as well.
CBS owns the shows and the first 10 movies.
Paramount owns the rights to the 11th and all future movies of that timeline.
The Kelvin first appeared in the 11th movie and thus CBS has no rights to it.
Cryptic's contract is not with Paramount, only with CBS.
They could try to make something similar, or they could put the Freedom class, which has a remotely similar arrangement and appeared in TNG and is thus permissible.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
You still haven't told us why. And no, "I don't like it" is not a valid reason.
Because it isn't offical lore and alternate reboot universe. It has no connection to the Prime universe other than Spock and the Naranda thus not canon
Because it isn't offical lore and alternate reboot universe. It has no connection to the Prime universe other than Spock and the Naranda thus not canon
A $150 million Star Trek movie released by Paramount featuring Leonard Nimoy isn't official?
A $150 million Star Trek movie released by Paramount featuring Leonard Nimoy isn't official?
No, if it is another timeline/parallel universe or when the IP owners say "no".
"...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--"
- (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie
No, if it is another timeline/parallel universe or when the IP owners say "no".
But ... the movie is produced by the IP owners. It is Star Trek. It may not be the Star Trek you want it to be, but that doesn't make it not Star Trek.
A $150 million Star Trek movie released by Paramount featuring Leonard Nimoy isn't official?
No, anyone can use a character to make something. Its called "In Name Only". They done that before on several characters. King Kong, Godzilla, Star Trek, etc.
I will never say JJ Trek is Official Trek. Since it totally changes what it is. The movie is just a mockery.
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No, anyone can use a character to make something. Its called "In Name Only". They done that before on several characters. King Kong, Godzilla, Star Trek, etc.
I will never say JJ Trek is Official Trek. Since it totally changes what it is. The movie is just a mockery.
You don't have to say it's Official Trek, but that doesn't stop it from being Official Trek.
There are things called opinions and facts.
People don't like the JJ Star Trek...this is what we call an opinion.
Fact canon is anything that is made by the IP owners regardless if it is an alternate reality or reboot.
Example James Bond
The series was rebooted with the Daniel Craig movies. Even though it is a reboot and part of Bond's early missions these movies are part of the canon.
People don't have to like the new Trek but it's officially part of Trek....it's funny because these are the same remarks I heard at Star Trek conventions when TNG first came out.
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Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
That's your argument? That just because the movie isn't set in the Prime Universe, it isn't canon, despite all tv shows and movies about Star Trek are canon by default?
There are things called opinions and facts.
People don't like the JJ Star Trek...this is what we call an opinion.
Fact canon is anything that is made by the IP owners regardless if it is an alternate reality or reboot.
Example James Bond
The series was rebooted with the Daniel Craig movies. Even though it is a reboot and part of Bond's early missions these movies are part of the canon.
People don't have to like the new Trek but it's officially part of Trek....it's funny because these are the same remarks I heard at Star Trek conventions when TNG first came out.
^ Well said
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
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New ships. The Enterprise and the Kelvin.
New uniform designs, including the regular ones they wore which Cryptic already designed back in Beta, the academy uniform, and the flag officer uniform.
New weapons.
Seems to me there's quite a bit of material that could be used from the film to expand this game.
And before anyone says otherwise: all the movies are canon, regardless of their content. This includes JJ's Trek
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
I'm not very fond of the Galor's design. It always looked awkward in space in DS9. And continues to look that way in game.
It's not the size of the Enterprise J. It's much bigger than the regular Constituion, but nowhere near as big as the J was. It would be smaller than the Envoy class cruiser which flies just fine in this game so it can fit this game.
Books say Janeway died becoming the new borg queen
Doctor Who met the next generation
If I remember the x men were in comics too
So are they cannon and if not then why is the new trek hmmm
Well played sir, well played.
The J is a multi-generation inter-galactic city ship, it's size is to accommodate carrying crews and their descendents from one galaxy to another.
Just having ships with different layouts would be a nice change, a single engine design like the Kelvin, multi pod designs that don't conform to the saucer with 2 pods aft that most Fed ships conform to. The Nomad skin for the Emissary Star Cruiser was my favorite for a long time before the C-Store Oddy's came out and I would love to build an Odyssey with a similar layout.
Movies and episodes count. Books, comics, and games do not.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Not from the movie.
It's from the "Countdown" comics that were made before the movie and are part of STO's own background story.
And WE shall make them PAY FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE!
Whether you like it or not, CBS and Paramount have the events of JJ Trek as canon, and there is no arguing otherwise. Well, unless you wish to be delusional...
And 'pathetic' really doesn't agree with total gross, critic reviews and so on
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Not only is it canon, but the U.S.S. Kelvin, with its window-viewscreen design, is canon in the prime universe.
Chew on that.
So is the Nerrada and the Jellyfish...
But when someone brings it up, I tend to stick my fingers in my ears and humm loudly ^^
Anywho, JJ-verse is what it is... A different timeline from the one STO is in, and I'd personally prefer it stays that way.
Also quite possibly the Kobayashi Maru type, Armstrong type, Mayflower type , Defiant type, and Newton type ships, considering they are all Kelvin era rather than JJPrise era.
Oh didn't a source confirm that the Kelvin is an Einstein Class vessel?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Well...probably not.
The Kelvin has a regirstry of NCC-0514 the Armstrong has NCC-1769 and the Mayflower has NCC-1621 which may indicate they are much, much newer designs.
Not the Kelvin per se.
And the reason for this has nothing to do with whether the ship class should technically exist in this timeline as well.
CBS owns the shows and the first 10 movies.
Paramount owns the rights to the 11th and all future movies of that timeline.
The Kelvin first appeared in the 11th movie and thus CBS has no rights to it.
Cryptic's contract is not with Paramount, only with CBS.
They could try to make something similar, or they could put the Freedom class, which has a remotely similar arrangement and appeared in TNG and is thus permissible.
You still haven't told us why. And no, "I don't like it" is not a valid reason.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
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Because it isn't offical lore and alternate reboot universe. It has no connection to the Prime universe other than Spock and the Naranda thus not canon
A $150 million Star Trek movie released by Paramount featuring Leonard Nimoy isn't official?
No, if it is another timeline/parallel universe or when the IP owners say "no".
But ... the movie is produced by the IP owners. It is Star Trek. It may not be the Star Trek you want it to be, but that doesn't make it not Star Trek.
No, anyone can use a character to make something. Its called "In Name Only". They done that before on several characters. King Kong, Godzilla, Star Trek, etc.
I will never say JJ Trek is Official Trek. Since it totally changes what it is. The movie is just a mockery.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
You don't have to say it's Official Trek, but that doesn't stop it from being Official Trek.
I'm one of the group that hates it and will never watch it. Or care for it.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
People don't like the JJ Star Trek...this is what we call an opinion.
Fact canon is anything that is made by the IP owners regardless if it is an alternate reality or reboot.
Example James Bond
The series was rebooted with the Daniel Craig movies. Even though it is a reboot and part of Bond's early missions these movies are part of the canon.
People don't have to like the new Trek but it's officially part of Trek....it's funny because these are the same remarks I heard at Star Trek conventions when TNG first came out.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Okay then... enjoy that illogical argument
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.