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  • ltsmithltsmith Member Posts: 207 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    So what ship is in the box and what ship will be from the lobi store also will there be a flyable Jem'hadar small craft?
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  • darkenzedddarkenzedd Member Posts: 881
    edited January 2013
    felderburg wrote: »
    ...if you have thousands of Zen, they already have your money, right...?

    Never paid a penny myself, someone did for me and I traded with Dilithium ;)

    Although, yeah technically you are correct :P
  • denizenvidenizenvi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    walshicus wrote: »
    My question: will you guys add the new Dominion ships to the enemy mobs and the Foundry?

    One can hope, but the Foundry Dominion ships don't even include the Dominion Battlecruiser. :(


    This is probably just an oversight, and adding the updated models might spur some movement on this. It's possible that the new Dreadnought has too much detail for an NPC enemy, but I hope not, as it looks pretty awesome. :)
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  • darkenzedddarkenzedd Member Posts: 881
    edited January 2013
    Yes. If you currently own (whether you got it from the exchange, winter package, a DOFF pack promotion, etc.) the attack ship and the dreadnought, you can obtain attack ship hangar pets.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=


    When will you guys be putting something in the cstore that can repackage lockbox ships to move to another character on an account? :cool:
  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Three actually.

    LOL 3 carriers...where's the andorian battlecruiser...guess that will come up on the anniversary
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  • darkenzedddarkenzedd Member Posts: 881
    edited January 2013
    LOL 3 carriers...where's the andorian battlecruiser...guess that will come up on the anniversary

    Only the cool stuff goes in the Lobi store these days... :(
  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    So how big is the Dreadnought? I hope it's accurately scaled, I don't want a small little thing running around.
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  • smiley117smiley117 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Get Rid Of The Lock Boxes. Put Them As Mission Rewards For Gods Sake.

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  • sean2448sean2448 Member Posts: 815 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Yes. If you currently own (whether you got it from the exchange, winter package, a DOFF pack promotion, etc.) the attack ship and the dreadnought, you can obtain attack ship hangar pets.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    I just hope I don't have to open 200 boxes for once it would be nice to get a cool ship first
  • denizenvidenizenvi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I love the look of the Jem'hadar minigun, I might have to get a hold of that:)

    Disappointed though with the lack of Kar'tarkin. But maybe this just means it can exist as a normal melee weapon at some point, and be easier to get than a Lobi item.


    I'm eager to see what the mirror Vo'quv stats are. Will it change the Sci Commander to something else, or instead change the Tac Lt Commander? Maybe swap both? I'd love another material variant for mine, so I'll probably get it whether I use the mirror or not.


    I also hope the hybrid weapons have special visuals now. The polarized disruptors didn't (as far as I can tell), but maybe these ones will at least use the Dominion visuals already in the mission rewards. Maybe they'll even make them blue-er to fit with the shows and ground weapons.

    Overall, I'm satisfied with the rewards. Kind of hoping the rich dilithium veins would be for a fleet holding, but dilithium rewards in lockboxes could be nice, if common enough. Not particularly interested in the feature ships, but they look nice. Driclae don't look as cute as Alfa dogs or Epohhs, but maybe there's a variant for me. I'm an obsessive pet collector, so I'll get one anyway.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    burstorion wrote: »
    ..Whut? Feds get a bioneural nuke? Has cryptic read their own description for that item - No Stafleet officer would ever equip that thing as its sentient AI tortured and molded into a 'living' weapon!

    Ya, expect a cloak console next. Then they can say the KDF faction are no longer needed in game as they're exactly like the Feds. The KDF then gets replaced by the Romulans to the joy of the fed players where the tech theft game begins again.
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  • captiandata1captiandata1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    cryptic/perfect world is there a plan possiblity of maybe having a way to sell the lock boxes to the lobi store clerk for 1 or 2 lobi crystals for each box?

    could some of the lobi store item be sold on the cstore too??
  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Yes. If you currently own (whether you got it from the exchange, winter package, a DOFF pack promotion, etc.) the attack ship and the dreadnought, you can obtain attack ship hangar pets.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    both or either?
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  • phrenetik1phrenetik1 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    me want the mirror voquv ,,,
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited January 2013
    blitzy4 wrote: »
    both or either?

    You, per character, have to own both the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship and the new Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier to get access to the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship hangar pets on that character. Scaling quality levels (e.g. rare, very rare, etc.) of these hangar pets, which only can be slotted on the Dreadnought, will be available for purchase from the Shipyard Store, Dilithium Store, or Fleet Store.

    Cheers,

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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    oh god the humanity, 1 lock box 3 carriers. the mirror kdf carrier is 1 thing, but really? both dominion ships needed hangers? STUPID. no justification for it, and a huge amount of additional spam to deal with :mad:

    and the phsed polaron, WTF? that already exists, and its polaron with a tetryon proc. dont they get it? phaser and polaron is the end game as far as weapons go, a combination of those 2 is the best, there is no other weapon type combo beter. what, are they going to retroactively modify the phased polaron from the featured episodes so they are polaron/phaser too? i just hope thats a typeO :rolleyes:

    the jem set getting upgraded, that shield has the potential to out do maco. so that will be interesting to see. less plasma weapon immunity at least

    the mirror escorts were a given, and i think a MVAM console with an ens eng might be a nice combo. the mirror patrol is completely pointless though with the fleet patrol having a universal ens, and being better in every other way. the mirror carrier will proboly have the catbox LTC sci and LT tac station setup.


    heres a good a place as any, ship speculation

    Jem?Hadar heavy escort

    Hull Strength: 36,000
    Shield Modifier: 1
    Weapons: 4 Fore, 4 Aft
    Device Slots: 3
    COM tac
    LTC eng
    LT tac
    LTsci
    ENS uni
    Console: 4 Tactical, 3 Engineering, 3 Science
    Base Turn Rate: ~13 degrees per second
    Impulse Modifier: 0.18
    +10 Power to Weapons; +5 Power to Engines
    Can Load Cannons
    1 hanger

    i suspect its basically a breen ship with a LTC eng, but its also more like i much better armatige, making it sort of a joke by comparison, with the stupid hanger it has.


    Jem?Hadar Dreadnought Carrier

    Hull Strength: 42,000
    Shield Modifier: 1.2
    Weapons: 4 Fore, 4 Aft
    Device Slots: 3
    COM tac
    LTC eng
    LTC sci
    LT uni
    Console: 4 Tactical, 3 Engineering, 3 Science
    Base Turn Rate: 7 degrees per second
    Impulse Modifier: 0.15
    +5 Power to Weapons; +10 Power to auxilery
    Can Load Cannons
    2 hanger

    i can only hope these ships are more pve toys like the breen ship is, rather then the new best pvp escort and pvp carrier. if the dread is tactical focused, i dont see how it could be much of a pvp ship. 4/4 weapons and 7 turn would be a lot for such a thing though

    1 last thing, these JHAS hanger pets, they CANT have SNB. i should not have to explain why.
  • sarvour0sarvour0 Member Posts: 382 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Personally the Dominion Lock Box rates above the Ferengi but just below the Tholian; as a personal preference i'd open most or all my Cardassian LBs first as the Galor is my fave of all the LB ships. Tholians are a viciously close second. I'll have to see stats before I would consider how they rate against the Temporal ships; and consider which kind of combat & gameply i would enjoy the most.

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  • atatassaultatatassault Member Posts: 1,008 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    and the phsed polaron, WTF? that already exists, and its polaron with a tetryon proc. dont they get it? phaser and polaron is the end game as far as weapons go, a combination of those 2 is the best, there is no other weapon type combo beter. what, are they going to retroactively modify the phased polaron from the featured episodes so they are polaron/phaser too? i just hope thats a typeO :rolleyes:
    Those previous Phased-Polarons were renamed Dominion Polarons.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Details about the new Dominion Lock Box are revealed in entry #30 of the Season 7 News Dev Blog series.

    Link to the blog.
    You know what, this actually looks pretty neat. I already own a Galor (after many attempts might I add) and I got the Breen ship at Christmas. If I can score a Jem Hadar ship too then I'll have the full set.

    I must say though, I was expecting to see the Warship (DS9's version) as the Lobi Ship and am surprised it isn't included in this little package. I can't help also thinking that the Dreadnought is going to be a tad overpowered. On the show it took fleets to take one of these things down. I don't envy anyone flying a Defiant Class right now. :eek:

    I also hope (unlike the Chel Grett) that these Dominion ships come with their own, unique bridge sets.
    kalecto wrote: »
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    Because it's EFFIN' HUGE that's why!
    That particular ship (I'd name it a Warship, though it's been given several titles) is actually about the same size as the Galaxy, at least in length.
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  • born2bwild1born2bwild1 Member Posts: 1,329 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    oh god the humanity, 1 lock box 3 carriers. the mirror kdf carrier is 1 thing, but really? both dominion ships needed hangers? STUPID. no justification for it, and a huge amount of additional spam to deal with :mad:

    and the phsed polaron, WTF? that already exists, and its polaron with a tetryon proc. dont they get it? phaser and polaron is the end game as far as weapons go, a combination of those 2 is the best, there is no other weapon type combo beter. what, are they going to retroactively modify the phased polaron from the featured episodes so they are polaron/phaser too? i just hope thats a typeO :rolleyes:

    the jem set getting upgraded, that shield has the potential to out do maco. so that will be interesting to see. less plasma weapon immunity at least
    would be a lot for such a thing though

    1 last thing, these JHAS hanger pets, they CANT have SNB. i should not have to explain why.

    It's going to be awesome - can't wait to go in with a full pre-made with 1 billion fighters going out all with every kind of weapon and sci skill - it will be just like a team of 30+ people against 5 if they don't come prepared.
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    You mean the same console that can only be used on the Defiant-R and Galaxy-X?
    No, I mean the same console that takes your shield multiplier and reduces it to .7 on every ship you use the console on
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    Are you telling me with a strait face the bio-warhead is restricted to just one KDF ship?
    it only comes on one ship, and once I spend 1500 ZEN to buy it I can use it on any ship, just like this lockbox version the Feds get @ 125 ZEN a chance to win. I will be SHOCKED if you spend more than 3 keys to get it.
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    You know what? if you people did not just exaggerate and lied all the time perhaps the "fed carebears" you oh so hate might actually agree with the fact the KDF have problems but its not you people event want that, you just want to be invincible in PvP and steamroll the "feds".

    Umm what ?
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Those previous Phased-Polarons were renamed Dominion Polarons.

    how.... what... the **** are they thinking!?!:mad: how can there be phased polaron, and dominion polaron? how can those 2 things exist at the same time? its describing the same thing!

    what do the dominion supposedly use? phased polaron, thats canon. oh but hey, there also exists dominion polaron weapons so its that they must use! .... i literally have a headache now.


    when you renamed them, you could have called them anything. you could have called them lazer blasters, and it would have made more sense then calling them dominian polaron. the stupidity of both of these things existing at the same time, and being different, is blinding.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    how.... what... the **** are they thinking!?!:mad: how can there be phased polaron, and dominion polaron? how can those 2 things exist at the same time? its describing the same thing!

    what do the dominion supposedly use? phased polaron, thats canon. oh but hey, there also exists dominion polaron weapons so its that they must use! .... i literally have a headache now.


    when you renamed them, you could have called them anything. you could have called them lazer blasters, and it would have made more sense then calling them dominian polaron. the stupidity of both of these things existing at the same time, and being different, is blinding.

    Dominion Polaron is Phased polaron the only thing that changed was the text.
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  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Yeah needing the attack ship which has no pets and nothing to do with this lockbox sale and then needing one from it just to get the pets which are probally going to be some astronomical price... I think with a majority of the players I will not opt to take any participation in this. I have one attack ship on a lethean tact but I'm not going to go grind to get a ship I don't even want to use on some toons just to be able to get pets on a ship that I want to use its just a boat load of TRIBBLE.
  • momawmomaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Another step toward widening the gap between players who spend little on the game versus the handful of players that spend hundreds of dollars opening lockboxes, while at the same time continuing the campaign to remove any reason to play as a KDF character since Feds can get the same stuff for a lot less.

    *sigh*

    Between the player-antagonistic business decisions, the total lack of new dynamic gameplay to take all these increasingly expensive ships into, and the willful ignoring of long-standing flaws in design and balance... :(
  • mikeward1701mikeward1701 Member Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Hey all.

    I have to say that I'm looking forward to the new Dominion ships. I have a really important question for the devs and I'm hoping one can answer.

    With the Cardassian Galor I can understand that you need a Galor on that particular toon to buy a Spiral Wave disruptor with dilithium. In the same vein, are we going to have to have a Jem'Hadar attack ship on the same toon as the new Dominion carrier in order to be able to use the Jem'Hadar attack wing and the new ship skin?

    I think needing the Jem'Hadar attack ship and the Jem'Hadar Carrier on the same toon to unlock these awesome features is not really fair. My toon with the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship has had its skills tuned to match the Attack Ship's capabilities and won't translate well to a carrier. I'm also sure that I'm not the only person to do this. Forcing us to have the carrier and Attack Ship on one toon will therefore ultimately result in us not being able to properly enjoy both ships.

    As I'm sure it's not PWE's intention for players to be put in a situation where we can't fully enjoy the content you create for us, can I ask that you please have the carrier detect whether you currently have a Jem'Hadar attack ship on the same account as opposed to the same toon? That way we can ensure that the captain of this awesome new ship can be skilled to make best use of its capabilities and we can maximise our enjoyment of our new content.

    STO community, is this a fair request and do you support it? Please keep it constructive!!

    Thank you.
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    Heh, RESPEC tokens are cheap- STOCK UP.
    ;)
    You're suggesting we respec each time we change ship? I hardly see this as a constructive comment.

    I wouldn't put it past Cryptic. We've seen them do similar things in the past, buttering your bread, giving the initial impression of great value, then comes the sting.

    At present, there's little reason for people to buy respec tokens, players either receive them at rank up, or test changes on tribble.

    Introducing ships that require fundamentally different skill builds to maximise their their performance could be a way for them to both limit the JHAS from becoming even more powerful and push sales of an under-performing C-Store item, an item which cannot be traded or bought for EC on the exchange.

    Cryptic have stated in the past that they don't receive direct instruction from PWE on how to run STO, that doesn't mean they aren't looking over the fence and picking up bad habits.
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  • mikeward1701mikeward1701 Member Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    keepcalm wrote: »
    One thing I noticed that I kinda don't like.
    Where's the kar'tarkin, guys?
    Plus, yay, full sets of phased polaron weapons and stuff.

    Yep, I noticed no mention of it either :(

    Sad, as they already have the asset in game, along with animations.
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