how is the zen store life? It would be better if they just sold the ships directly instead of these perfect world lockboxes. i miss the old cryptic, run by... not pw.
That's also been answered to death too: Licensing requirements. CBS has already said that they do not want everyone and their grandmother flying non-faction ships.
Which, then, begs the logical next question: When will non-faction become a faction in its own right?
The Australian government is the biggest toothless tiger out there... Gillard & Co won't do anything about this stuff because they simply do not understand anything to do with the internet (just listen to Conroy... that man has no clue!). Unfortunately it could mean that they come up with some crazy law that has some adverse effect on the game... but to be realistic the chances of that happening are bugger all to none.
And anyway... the gambling argument has been done to death... its not gambling - you always get something for your money - there is NO real risk - there is just a risk that you will not get something that you want (and that doesn't classify as getting ripped off cos you still got something you were told you could get).
If the Australian government starts to take a serious look into Star Trek Online, the only thing that will happen is Australian users being clocked from playing the game. It's an American game based in California. Australia can make all the demands it wants as long as STO is in Australia, but all Cryptic needs to do is cut off Australian users and Australia has no jurisdiction to demand anything. It'll suck for any Australian STO user, but they'll only have their government to blame.
On the topic of the lockboxes themselves, my Jem'Hadar boff wants his kar'takin! Make it the same stats as another melee weapon of the same level, you already have the visuals for it, and you could probably get away with reusing the lirpa animations. Done; easy product that people want that will make them more likely to go after lockboxes.
The only thing that really interests me in this grouping is the Anteater...
And it is probably the one thing I WON'T get, with the few Dominion boxes I plan on opening.
Oh well..., I've still got plenty of Temporal boxes stored away to open for the time being.
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That's also been answered to death too: Licensing requirements. CBS has already said that they do not want everyone and their grandmother flying non-faction ships.
Which, then, begs the logical next question: When will non-faction become a faction in its own right?
"Breen re-invasion" of ESD space is my answer to your answer.
As my sig alludes, this "restriction" is gone as of the winter event - any then-active player who spent 5 min/day for 25/35 days has a "non-faction" ship on at least one toon. While I prioritized and only did this on 2 of my then 6 toons, I hear stories of people who did nothing but race all day for the near-month and stocked 10+ toons with Breen ships...
On a more related note, I know I'm eyeballing those phased polarons DCs for my 2 Breen ships, maybe even a set of decent (read: cheap) turrets to replace the handful of arrays I ground up on my engie's breen ship already...
Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...
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Wrong, the restriction is there and the winter event, like the lockboxes, was just a work-around. Same with the Jem'Hadar fighter in the previous winter wonderland. Besides, the Breen ship is outdone by most CBS-approved top-level ships, so people are just flying around for the novelty, because they feel like it, or because they haven't managed to grab something better.
how is the zen store life? It would be better if they just sold the ships directly instead of these perfect world lockboxes. i miss the old cryptic, run by... not pw.
It's supposed to be amusing, my post was a link to a clip from DS9, click it.
Wrong, the restriction is there and the winter event, like the lockboxes, was just a work-around. Same with the Jem'Hadar fighter in the previous winter wonderland. Besides, the Breen ship is outdone by most CBS-approved top-level ships, so people are just flying around for the novelty, because they feel like it, or because they haven't managed to grab something better.
My understanding of CBS's restriction is that there should never be an instance in which "faction" ships will be a "minority"...
Granted, as there has been many lockboxes, all releasing "non-faction" ships, (we have JHAS, Galor, D'Kora, Orb Weaver (and Recluse, but she wasn't "grand prize")) then we can have situations where faction ships can be a "minority" - when you compare Feds to combined non-faction - but when you attempt to compare a given non-faction ship with the faction fed population on at that time, the feds will still outnumber each specific "non-faction ship"...
However, this is not the case with the Chel'Bret. Heck, I can see, even in June, that if we ran a "flash mob" challenge with sufficient incentive for all available players to show up around ESD within 10 minutes of the announcement in their Breen ship, we'll have 80+% of the ships around ESD being the Chel'Bret. This isn't "minority" level - it's gonna take a lot of time for enough new players to sign up so that we'll have <50% Breen in a "flash mob" challenge with enough incentive to draw everyone who owns a Breen ship out...
As long as this is the case, then we're looking at "restriction lifted". On a side note, you realize that the relatively unique BOff layout, fact that it's a 10-console "fleet" grade ship, and is an extremely rare (Fed side, at least) cruiser-variant that can mount DHCs, and we have a situation where a lot of people still fly their Breen ship, even in light of what the Zen store offers - it might take tier 5 shipyards being fairly common to nudge a lot of these cruiser-captains back into "faction" Fed ships...
Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
Can you make it, to where if you own a Jem'Hadar attack ship anywhere on your account, you can buy the pet? If I magically get this ship, I'm not replacing my attack ship with it, but would love to launch a wing of fighters with it.
I'm really conflicted... on the one hand I'm a giant Dom fanboy and I kinda wish Cryptic would just port everything over to a Dom faction and get it over with. On the other hand, PvP basically has nothing to do with Starfleet/KDF at this point and the amount of ships with inexplicable hangar bays is reaching the truly absurd.
So let me guess, another Gecko Imba (tm) ships in the making to make all starfleet and KDF design obsolete. Bug, bug with fighter, bug with even more fighters. GG, Dominion Online.
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Since I am still waiting for the RSE, i can't wait to see how friggin OP the abilities of D'deridex and co are going to be. Seriously Gecko, keep at it, and yes once i m in my warbird, all gloves come off and every single ultra-rare BS item is game on.
I kind of pity most people here. I just arrived, but this lock box trope has become a staple of the most shady F2P MMOs out there. People feel forced to get the top prize because if they don't they feel 'left behind'.
People spend exorbitant sums, teeter on the edge of personal ruin. Get addicted... If you think it doesn't happen, think again.
I don't however pity them, because stupidity is it's own reward.
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That's also been answered to death too: Licensing requirements. CBS has already said that they do not want everyone and their grandmother flying non-faction ships.
Which, then, begs the logical next question: When will non-faction become a faction in its own right?
Nope, again that is the bs excuse Cryptic keep pulling out to justify the cost of these ships etc.
It has nothing to do with CBS at all, as if that was the case, they would not have been allowed to give the Breen ship away for free....
I kind of pity most people here. I just arrived, but this lock box trope has become a staple of the most shady F2P MMOs out there. People feel forced to get the top prize because if they don't they feel 'left behind'.
People spend exorbitant sums, teeter on the edge of personal ruin. Get addicted... If you think it doesn't happen, think again.
I don't however pity them, because stupidity is it's own reward.
Ok Normally a lockbox fan if not for anything bu the MU ships but seriously dissapointed with this lockbox. So on the offchance we get one of the carriers we need the bug ship to use them as fighters. (If I got the bug ship I would not be bothering with the lockbox anyway.) Also the Jem Hadar Mk XII kit will not show the costume option for KDF now at the moment the only character who uses the mKXI jem hadar ground set it my KDF character so if I did buy the lock boxes just to get lobi then it is pointless to upgrade my equipment as I don't get the costume option like my fed would. And finally how it is that the feds get two MU ships and the KDF only one.
This seems a prime example of KDF getting screwed now with lockboxes. The temporal lockbox seems to be the last one I will purchases keys for as the rewards seem to be becoming less and less impressive.
The only thing that would make me want to purchase this would be a MU bridge set for my MU star cruiser
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Will i be able to buy Jem Hadar ship with Zen? Why isnt Jem Hadar ultimate reward for geting all Tier V upgrades in starbase? You could have offer it with many other requirements like geting all accolades in all missions and for gameplay time, like to reward those that play and played this game.
I'm still not happy about this as most hard core carrier pilots would be very unlikely to get the Jem Hadar attack ship as that one would be a totally different game play style.
I think you all need to bring back that silly ship for a little while as this combo was out of the blue.
It just seems like a major oversight as carrier pilots(two hangers) don't normally fly escorts or even collect them.
Devs can you please respond to this or what the plans are down the road ....
Nope, again that is the bs excuse Cryptic keep pulling out to justify the cost of these ships etc.
It has nothing to do with CBS at all, as if that was the case, they would not have been allowed to give the Breen ship away for free....
Unless you have proof to the contrary and a statement from CBS saying they have nothing to do with this then I would agree.
Also the breen ship was not given out for free like oh here everyone a ship, you had to go through hoops to get the ship, and being this is a MMO you have people who glady ran those hoops.
The only thing that really annoys me, is the dominion fighters can only be used on the dominion ships. Although, it makes sense, I don't really want to use a dominion carrier.
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I'm still not happy about this as most hard core carrier pilots would be very unlikely to get the Jem Hadar attack ship as that one would be a totally different game play style.
I think you all need to bring back that silly ship for a little while as this combo was out of the blue.
It just seems like a major oversight as carrier pilots(two hangers) don't normally fly escorts or even collect them.
Devs can you please respond to this or what the plans are down the road ....
This is what bothers me the most, it seems like very odd logic was at play in deciding to link the two.
Eh I think possibly they should make it a LTS or subscriber perk to be able to get the very rare pet as long as you own the heavy escort or the dreadnought. Having to own something from two different kind of ships doesn't bode well with me or most of these posts I've been seeing so they need to make some compromise on it because for everyone who posts in forums there's 100's more that won't even bother with doing this lockbox.
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Brandon already said yes to this.
That's also been answered to death too: Licensing requirements. CBS has already said that they do not want everyone and their grandmother flying non-faction ships.
Which, then, begs the logical next question: When will non-faction become a faction in its own right?
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1) Can we get some nice pictures of the Mk XII Jem'Hadar armor visual, on male and female characters?
2) The Dilithium Mining Claim, does it come in a tradeable reward pack (like the temporal beacons), or is it bind-on-pickup from the lockbox?
3) Will there also be a playable Jem'Hadar fighter in the Lobi store, in the traditional 300-Lobi bracket? It's not mentioned in the blog.
If the Australian government starts to take a serious look into Star Trek Online, the only thing that will happen is Australian users being clocked from playing the game. It's an American game based in California. Australia can make all the demands it wants as long as STO is in Australia, but all Cryptic needs to do is cut off Australian users and Australia has no jurisdiction to demand anything. It'll suck for any Australian STO user, but they'll only have their government to blame.
On the topic of the lockboxes themselves, my Jem'Hadar boff wants his kar'takin! Make it the same stats as another melee weapon of the same level, you already have the visuals for it, and you could probably get away with reusing the lirpa animations. Done; easy product that people want that will make them more likely to go after lockboxes.
I'm with you...
The only thing that really interests me in this grouping is the Anteater...
And it is probably the one thing I WON'T get, with the few Dominion boxes I plan on opening.
Oh well..., I've still got plenty of Temporal boxes stored away to open for the time being.
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"Breen re-invasion" of ESD space is my answer to your answer.
As my sig alludes, this "restriction" is gone as of the winter event - any then-active player who spent 5 min/day for 25/35 days has a "non-faction" ship on at least one toon. While I prioritized and only did this on 2 of my then 6 toons, I hear stories of people who did nothing but race all day for the near-month and stocked 10+ toons with Breen ships...
On a more related note, I know I'm eyeballing those phased polarons DCs for my 2 Breen ships, maybe even a set of decent (read: cheap) turrets to replace the handful of arrays I ground up on my engie's breen ship already...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
LOL dam man i laughed so hard :-)
Wrong, the restriction is there and the winter event, like the lockboxes, was just a work-around. Same with the Jem'Hadar fighter in the previous winter wonderland. Besides, the Breen ship is outdone by most CBS-approved top-level ships, so people are just flying around for the novelty, because they feel like it, or because they haven't managed to grab something better.
It's supposed to be amusing, my post was a link to a clip from DS9, click it.
My understanding of CBS's restriction is that there should never be an instance in which "faction" ships will be a "minority"...
Granted, as there has been many lockboxes, all releasing "non-faction" ships, (we have JHAS, Galor, D'Kora, Orb Weaver (and Recluse, but she wasn't "grand prize")) then we can have situations where faction ships can be a "minority" - when you compare Feds to combined non-faction - but when you attempt to compare a given non-faction ship with the faction fed population on at that time, the feds will still outnumber each specific "non-faction ship"...
However, this is not the case with the Chel'Bret. Heck, I can see, even in June, that if we ran a "flash mob" challenge with sufficient incentive for all available players to show up around ESD within 10 minutes of the announcement in their Breen ship, we'll have 80+% of the ships around ESD being the Chel'Bret. This isn't "minority" level - it's gonna take a lot of time for enough new players to sign up so that we'll have <50% Breen in a "flash mob" challenge with enough incentive to draw everyone who owns a Breen ship out...
As long as this is the case, then we're looking at "restriction lifted". On a side note, you realize that the relatively unique BOff layout, fact that it's a 10-console "fleet" grade ship, and is an extremely rare (Fed side, at least) cruiser-variant that can mount DHCs, and we have a situation where a lot of people still fly their Breen ship, even in light of what the Zen store offers - it might take tier 5 shipyards being fairly common to nudge a lot of these cruiser-captains back into "faction" Fed ships...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
THIS x 1000000 it should be account no per toon.
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Nope, again that is the bs excuse Cryptic keep pulling out to justify the cost of these ships etc.
It has nothing to do with CBS at all, as if that was the case, they would not have been allowed to give the Breen ship away for free....
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This seems a prime example of KDF getting screwed now with lockboxes. The temporal lockbox seems to be the last one I will purchases keys for as the rewards seem to be becoming less and less impressive.
The only thing that would make me want to purchase this would be a MU bridge set for my MU star cruiser
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My joined (not really but in my head she is) trill romunophilr BOFF, Vlaen wants this pet hard!
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I think you all need to bring back that silly ship for a little while as this combo was out of the blue.
It just seems like a major oversight as carrier pilots(two hangers) don't normally fly escorts or even collect them.
Devs can you please respond to this or what the plans are down the road ....
Unless you have proof to the contrary and a statement from CBS saying they have nothing to do with this then I would agree.
Also the breen ship was not given out for free like oh here everyone a ship, you had to go through hoops to get the ship, and being this is a MMO you have people who glady ran those hoops.
http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/www/92/f9/92f96acdd8e267d61fae740a6ec3e7d51358883574.jpg
but gave us this one instead:
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/3/33400/2116102-dominion_bc_super.jpg
because the Stuff from TV always sells better...
oh well, at least there is a reason for a third Jem'Hadar lockbox next year :P
This is what bothers me the most, it seems like very odd logic was at play in deciding to link the two.
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