Q: What are the odds for getting each of the rewards in the Lock Box?
A: We are not providing exact numbers the prizes contained within the Dominion Lock Box. The average value for a normal Lock Box is around 175 Zen.
Why? Bit shady isn't it?
I dunno. Anyone stupid enough to pay for keys with actual Zen given what they cost is likely also not the kind of person with enough neurons firing to even understand how odds work in the first place. That seems like the kind of thing you could Venn Diagram pretty easily.
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The Cheapest way to get these items is to sell keys on exchange for 1.4 to 1.6 mil a pop, and USe EC to Buys Ships. When Keys were going for 1 mil per and Zen was at its lowest i was ablle to scrounge up 100 keys. The 2 sales helped alot. With that I just bought both ships for under 200 mil EC. Anyone that keeps opening boxes to get the ships is going to spend a ton to get both of them.
Ok the fact that this reward pack is bound to the toon they are opened on is complete TRIBBLE. I can understand that if are account bound.
So lets look at this. I opened 100 Box's today and I got 8 VIPS and 6 preferred. This means to use the Items I won in this lockbox. I have to do a daily mission for 116 days!!!
REALLY ?? I can trade CXP bonus, Fleet Mark bonus, skill point bonus. So any of my toons can use them. but this one that is in place of those are bound to only one toon.
Total BS that in a box i opened today, the soonest i can use the item is May 20th 2013
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Ok the fact that this reward pack is bound to the toon they are opened on is complete TRIBBLE. I can understand that if are account bound.
So lets look at this. I opened 100 Box's today and I got 8 VIPS and 6 preferred. This means to use the Items I won in this lockbox. I have to do a daily mission for 116 days!!!
REALLY ?? I can trade CXP bonus, Fleet Mark bonus, skill point bonus. So any of my toons can use them. but this one that is in place of those are bound to only one toon.
Total BS that in a box i opened today, the soonest i can use the item is May 20th 2013
is it me or just badluck all i have gotten is doff packs or claims no consoles or heacy cruiser
I see a ton have gotten it it is anoying all the stuff flashing on screen
is it me or just badluck all i have gotten is doff packs or claims no consoles or heacy cruiser
I see a ton have gotten it it is anoying all the stuff flashing on screen
Assuming the loot table is structured like the last lockbox, the odds of getting the grand prize are about 1/278. It's perfectly normal to open a number of packs and only get the basic ~175 Zen prizes.
Why would you buy a dreadnought carrier if you can't get the attack ship pet when you don't have yourself the jem'hadar attack ship ? why this restriction ???
If you are Lucky enough to possess a jem'hadar attack ship, why the hell would you buy the carrier, when you can pilot the best ship existing in sto ? ...
I absolutely agree with this.
Not being able to buy jem'hadar attack ship pets renders this ship useless. 800 lobi for a useless ship, that's very expensive
There are plenty great choices... especially on the KDF side. From what I have read, the Jem'Hadar Attack ship hangar is not going to make or break this ship.
---about the new ships and stuff, i dont think the carriers are op, the only thing i dont like is that, again, they are powering the jem bug, giving it the chance to use the new jem set (the obvious thing to do anyway ...), any pvper in his perfect mind would put this console in one engineering console, and leave the 3 left console slots to use 3 plating consoles, lets go for some math:
lets consider the owner of the bug haves 4 mk xii purple plating consoles wich gives him 40damage resistence magnitude each = 160drm.
with the 4 plating consoles the player would get something about 58% damage resistence
consider that the jem bug will use 1 console from the jem set on one of its engineering console slots, he will loose 1 plating console wich means he will loose 40 damage resitance magnitude, leaving him with 120 drm, wich represents 52% total damage resistance, this will decrease its damage resistance by a mere 6%, and increasing the damage of the bug using 1 jem console ( 3 plating consoles is the sweet spot ), wich makes the bug even more op than it is right now. but, its ok to me, the bug is limited on sci skills and consoles, he cant upgrade his shield cap or reg, so im cool.
--about the cross faction consoles, kdfs are whining and i would like to have this explained, you got the best console, why ? the bioneural warhead is a 1 min cooldown torpedo, its not affected by skills or torpedo doffs, it has a low dmg compared to normal trics or plasma high yelds, almost nobody plays as a torpedo boat, so this bio neural warhead is useless, and i am a torpedo boat with some experience, and i can clearly say that this torpedo is far behind the omega torpedo or romulan torpedo, a simple harghpeng torpedo sustained damage will compensate the spike dmg of the bioneural within less of 1min, of course spike is better that sustained because its harder to heal, in the other hand the bio neural gives us some tactical advantage for its capability to be shooted from 15km far, antiproton turret, and it has shields, anyway, its not a torpedo i would use for a 1 on 1 match. dont complain this much guys, im sure cryptic are doing its best... i want a mine clearing console for feds like the aceton assimilator T.T
the rest is super fine and super cool for me, awesome lockbox
so i guess its time to stop complaining and congratulate cryptic and pwe for this awesome game, despite of one op thing here and there xP
most of the things in the box or lobi store are not tradeable nor account wide (I have over 100 dilithium mining thingies stuck on 1 toon ) ...i guess they try hard to remove trading from the game after they removed pvp
Hi all, i tried this console out and got pretty consistent values; 809-840 dp.
I thought it was supposed to give something like 13k dp?
this was testing on one taget, no others nearby to divide aoe.
Perhaps I'm missing something? or could it be a "gift" from kdf?
gojo.
[SIGPIC]tritrophic mutualism: we get a viable game experience, and perfect worlds new ai "ARC" dines on our zen[/SIGPIC]
Has anyone mentioned the drop rate of these? I've been killing enemies for a good two hours and not a single Dominion box has dropped. I use to swat the Tholian ones away. Now I can't get anything.
If its working in the players favour - "This isn't working as intended. We're going to remove this from the game. You're not playing as we intended." If its working in the games favour - "We have too much on our plate to fix this/Working as intended."
Has anyone mentioned the drop rate of these? I've been killing enemies for a good two hours and not a single Dominion box has dropped. I use to swat the Tholian ones away. Now I can't get anything.
not sure myself... thouh when i ran operation gamma twice to get the Mk XI set peices for my char with the new dread carrier, i netted like 4 of these just by killing half the swarmers on the map....
not sure myself... thouh when i ran operation gamma twice to get the Mk XI set peices for my char with the new dread carrier, i netted like 4 of these just by killing half the swarmers on the map....
Hey, it's still better than the days that they dropped from torpedos...
most of the things in the box or lobi store are not tradeable nor account wide (I have over 100 dilithium mining thingies stuck on 1 toon ) ...i guess they try hard to remove trading from the game after they removed pvp
not just me thats pissed off with the dilithium mining TRIBBLE why would i wont to be bored doing something most players only do a 1-2 times then never go back to. dilith mining is TRIBBLE just do a few elites or foundry missions a lot more fun. u know wot that is dont u devs its why we play games after all. let us sell them on exchange or at lest account lock them. i would only do mining on new toons not my lvl 50's
hint 4 toons elite team commanders n i got my accolades the old way by grinding 100 stf for the kit
A true Vorta just needs such a Jham'Hadar Dreadnaughty. It's the Dominion flagship and usually a Vorta is in command of such a ship. I won't be getting it though since I have stopped playing in December last year. I hope there are some Vorta fellows who are lucky enuff to get one though. ^^
"Everything about the Jham'Hadar is lethal!" - Eris
Original Join Date: January 30th, 2010
It took you 1 day to make the Bio-Neural Warhead (an illegal weapon?) more common on the Fed side than it had ever been on KDF.
You should give all the Klingon ships to the Feds, too.
Oh please, it's not even that great a weapon. Most players are just using it for novelty's sake. It's new and shiny and they've never tried it before (because most people don't play KDF).
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I dunno. Anyone stupid enough to pay for keys with actual Zen given what they cost is likely also not the kind of person with enough neurons firing to even understand how odds work in the first place. That seems like the kind of thing you could Venn Diagram pretty easily.
"We are smart." - Grebnedlog
Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom
So lets look at this. I opened 100 Box's today and I got 8 VIPS and 6 preferred. This means to use the Items I won in this lockbox. I have to do a daily mission for 116 days!!!
REALLY ?? I can trade CXP bonus, Fleet Mark bonus, skill point bonus. So any of my toons can use them. but this one that is in place of those are bound to only one toon.
Total BS that in a box i opened today, the soonest i can use the item is May 20th 2013
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Vice Admiral of the Omega Family Fleet
(228 members and growing)
Please see my thread on this issue:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=524711
I see a ton have gotten it it is anoying all the stuff flashing on screen
Assuming the loot table is structured like the last lockbox, the odds of getting the grand prize are about 1/278. It's perfectly normal to open a number of packs and only get the basic ~175 Zen prizes.
You do know you can turn off the flyby notifications right?
I absolutely agree with this.
There are plenty great choices... especially on the KDF side. From what I have read, the Jem'Hadar Attack ship hangar is not going to make or break this ship.
Member since December 2009
It took you 1 day to make the Bio-Neural Warhead (an illegal weapon?) more common on the Fed side than it had ever been on KDF.
You should give all the Klingon ships to the Feds, too.
He's dead, Jim.
lets consider the owner of the bug haves 4 mk xii purple plating consoles wich gives him 40damage resistence magnitude each = 160drm.
with the 4 plating consoles the player would get something about 58% damage resistence
consider that the jem bug will use 1 console from the jem set on one of its engineering console slots, he will loose 1 plating console wich means he will loose 40 damage resitance magnitude, leaving him with 120 drm, wich represents 52% total damage resistance, this will decrease its damage resistance by a mere 6%, and increasing the damage of the bug using 1 jem console ( 3 plating consoles is the sweet spot ), wich makes the bug even more op than it is right now. but, its ok to me, the bug is limited on sci skills and consoles, he cant upgrade his shield cap or reg, so im cool.
--about the cross faction consoles, kdfs are whining and i would like to have this explained, you got the best console, why ? the bioneural warhead is a 1 min cooldown torpedo, its not affected by skills or torpedo doffs, it has a low dmg compared to normal trics or plasma high yelds, almost nobody plays as a torpedo boat, so this bio neural warhead is useless, and i am a torpedo boat with some experience, and i can clearly say that this torpedo is far behind the omega torpedo or romulan torpedo, a simple harghpeng torpedo sustained damage will compensate the spike dmg of the bioneural within less of 1min, of course spike is better that sustained because its harder to heal, in the other hand the bio neural gives us some tactical advantage for its capability to be shooted from 15km far, antiproton turret, and it has shields, anyway, its not a torpedo i would use for a 1 on 1 match. dont complain this much guys, im sure cryptic are doing its best... i want a mine clearing console for feds like the aceton assimilator T.T
the rest is super fine and super cool for me, awesome lockbox
so i guess its time to stop complaining and congratulate cryptic and pwe for this awesome game, despite of one op thing here and there xP
live long and prosper ||//_
I thought it was supposed to give something like 13k dp?
this was testing on one taget, no others nearby to divide aoe.
Perhaps I'm missing something? or could it be a "gift" from kdf?
gojo.
If its working in the games favour - "We have too much on our plate to fix this/Working as intended."
not sure myself... thouh when i ran operation gamma twice to get the Mk XI set peices for my char with the new dread carrier, i netted like 4 of these just by killing half the swarmers on the map....
Hey, it's still better than the days that they dropped from torpedos...
not just me thats pissed off with the dilithium mining TRIBBLE why would i wont to be bored doing something most players only do a 1-2 times then never go back to. dilith mining is TRIBBLE just do a few elites or foundry missions a lot more fun. u know wot that is dont u devs its why we play games after all. let us sell them on exchange or at lest account lock them. i would only do mining on new toons not my lvl 50's
hint 4 toons elite team commanders n i got my accolades the old way by grinding 100 stf for the kit
Original Join Date: January 30th, 2010
Oh please, it's not even that great a weapon. Most players are just using it for novelty's sake. It's new and shiny and they've never tried it before (because most people don't play KDF).