To be fair, it makes a lot of sense that they would though.
It does, I have no issue with it. It might have been nice to have a 3rd set of boffs that added something not related to cloaking - but its a nitpick (as the crit bonus is generally useful for everyone, although not as useful for many fed cruisers/sci ships).
Just imagine how many threads there would be however, if the embassy had nothing but BOFFs that seemed to clearly favor fed ships.
Wait wait wait. Another cross faction console is inbound? I wonder what I do first: uninstall or join OPvP to find some "no cheese" matches to play. And then I will think what is worse.
Right around when the original Cardassian box was announced (maybe a little before it), it was announced that all sub-T5 consoles would be proliferated. So only consoles that come on T5 ships would be excluded from this (and they are also exclusive to the T5 ship they come with).
So it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when with regards to console proliferation.
So only consoles that come on T5 ships would be excluded from this (and they are also exclusive to the T5 ship they come with).
So it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when with regards to console proliferation.
So there's only 1 console that's not ship-locked that will never go in a "console exchange box"? Why am I not surprised it's Fed (the Ablative Generator from the Intrepid Retrofit).
Of course, with the KDF having no T5 c-store ships in the first place, moot point really
So there's only 1 console that's not ship-locked that will never go in a "console exchange box"? Why am I not surprised it's Fed (the Ablative Generator from the Intrepid Retrofit).
Well, no.
The Bortasqu and Ody 3 pack consoles, the Gal-X & Defiant-R Cloak consoles, The MVAE MV Module, the HEC Photon Torp Console, Regent Metreon gas, etc.
These are all consoles that are only useable by the ships they come with and no other - and these were specifically called out at the time saying they would not be proliferated (and that probably also means they will never be proliferated within their own faction either, you'll never use the photon torp console from the HEC on the Ody for example).
Two runs through the Ques on a FED character-both times, five Klinks showed up and stayed, both times, two or three Feds ditched before the first shot was fired.
While not a scientific sampling, this was also going 1 C&H and 1 Arena, with the same (very well played) Klinks on the other side.
I do draw from this, (and seeing many, many comments about leavers/unconscious AFK) that, indeed, the Feds have a serious problem.
a VERY serious problem-and it ain't the Klinks' fault.
Either
a) The majority of Feds are scared of the KDF
or
b) There is some bug that allows them to gain the rewards of a PVP match without actually being in the match. After all, even if someone leaves a match, their name still remains on the list
FvK is not dead, it is just unfun...for many reasons. And I say that as someone who queues 90% to FvK. I would not blame it solely on klingons tho.
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Two runs through the Ques on a FED character-both times, five Klinks showed up and stayed, both times, two or three Feds ditched before the first shot was fired.
While not a scientific sampling, this was also going 1 C&H and 1 Arena, with the same (very well played) Klinks on the other side.
I do draw from this, (and seeing many, many comments about leavers/unconscious AFK) that, indeed, the Feds have a serious problem.
a VERY serious problem-and it ain't the Klinks' fault.
Well, I had the exact opposite, but on RA level. From all three (yay) Arenas yesterday in two at least one Klink left after he was killed for the first time or after it was clear that match is one sided (Feds beating Klink 10:0). In the one were no Klink left we got "noobs" as answer to our GG (we beat them 15:8, so I do not know why "noobs"). From those three matches only in one a Fed left.
I do not think all the problems with FvK are at Fed side. Klinks are not all that much better. Perhaps it looks different at VA, but at lower levels Klinks are just as whinny as Feds, if not more.
Why is it, whenever a fed sees an "overpowered" BoP they run to the forums to rant/rage/cry, instead of actually getting in a BoP too see how they ACTUALLY fly?
OP BoP you say ....that BS.I dont pvp against kdf because last time I did my ship and half of the maps turned invisible ( i have a high end pc with dual graphics cards and game installed on ssd so i cant blame my pc) from so much theta ,siphons and other 10 billions things summoned.Im not even saying kdf have op (they lost in that match ) things or feds have op things...this game engine was not made for so much s*** summoned at the same time.
In many games, where a "person" perceives the other side as OP - they will roll a toon on that side to take advantage of it. However, they are the same "person"...so they'll complain regardless.
OP BoP you say ....that BS.I dont pvp against kdf because last time I did my ship and half of the maps turned invisible ( i have a high end pc with dual graphics cards and game installed on ssd so i cant blame my pc) from so much theta ,siphons and other 10 billions things summoned.Im not even saying kdf have op (they lost in that match ) things or feds have op things...this game engine was not made for so much s*** summoned at the same time.
And people don't believe me when I complain about spam and theta and warp plasma killing my GPU. I play on integral graphic card, not some gaming model so you can imagine what happens when there is a carrier or too much plasma/theta in a match.
And people don't believe me when I complain about spam and theta and warp plasma killing my GPU. I play on integral graphic card, not some gaming model so you can imagine what happens when there is a carrier or too much plasma/theta in a match.
sadly though, not all games should be played on all systems.
OP BoP you say ....that BS.I dont pvp against kdf because last time I did my ship and half of the maps turned invisible ( i have a high end pc with dual graphics cards and game installed on ssd so i cant blame my pc) from so much theta ,siphons and other 10 billions things summoned.Im not even saying kdf have op (they lost in that match ) things or feds have op things...this game engine was not made for so much s*** summoned at the same time.
Ah, so you're using graphical spam as an excuse? Graphical spam that's visible for both sides if it's visible for one of them :rolleyes:
I'd also question your "high end" PC's capabilities considering I play with high settings on a laptop with hardly any issues*, but that's probably a matter for another thread.
*The only time I get any significant problems is when I'm in a small ship being peppered with feedback pulse (and even then it's more a matter of not being able to see where I'm going than suffering FPS dips) and the massive white streaks in Red Alerts.
And people don't believe me when I complain about spam and theta and warp plasma killing my GPU. I play on integral graphic card, not some gaming model so you can imagine what happens when there is a carrier or too much plasma/theta in a match.
They probably can't believe you're playing on an integrated graphics card! :P
And what is so strange about it. Its not IntelHD but some Radeon Can play TOR on pretty decent setting, why can't play STO? It's not my fault that scalability of this game is fraked up. For MMO this thing is pretty hostile for GPUs.
Anyway. As long as there is cheese a long FvK will be dead. Get rid of it, and it will be alive again. There were quite a lot of people playing FvK PUGs before first consoles and spam (an subsequent proliferation of WH40k carrier). It's just that after Klinks started to spam the **** out of every TRIBBLE in their bodies that FvK got empty.
And what is so strange about it. Its not IntelHD but some Radeon Can play TOR on pretty decent setting, why can't play STO? It's not my fault that scalability of this game is fraked up. For MMO this thing is pretty hostile for GPUs.
Anyway. As long as there is cheese a long FvK will be dead. Get rid of it, and it will be alive again. There were quite a lot of people playing FvK PUGs before first consoles and spam (an subsequent proliferation of WH40k carrier). It's just that after Klinks started to spam the **** out of every TRIBBLE in their bodies that FvK got empty.
And now Feds do the same.
Try running 1/2 visual resolution, zooming out when theta/ewp are used, disabling pets et al from UI.
[Zone] Dack@****: cowards can't take a fed 1 on 1 crinckley cowards Hahahaha you smell like flowers
Random Quote from Kerrat
"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
C&H Fed banter
The Bortasqu and Ody 3 pack consoles, the Gal-X & Defiant-R Cloak consoles, The MVAE MV Module, the HEC Photon Torp Console, Regent Metreon gas, etc.
These are all consoles that are only useable by the ships they come with and no other - and these were specifically called out at the time saying they would not be proliferated (and that probably also means they will never be proliferated within their own faction either, you'll never use the photon torp console from the HEC on the Ody for example).
Vet ship console, Karfi Phase console are others. Though I thought they changed the photon torp access, though that may have just been torp type.
[Zone] Dack@****: cowards can't take a fed 1 on 1 crinckley cowards Hahahaha you smell like flowers
Random Quote from Kerrat
"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
C&H Fed banter
Ah, so you're using graphical spam as an excuse? Graphical spam that's visible for both sides if it's visible for one of them :rolleyes:
I dont care what the other team sees .If something like lag (from time to time you should play the game from Europe) or ship turning invisible is acceptable for you is not my problem.
I played Eve online whre you can have more massive pvp battles than STO and I never complained ....probably in your little world you think I said what I said because I have nothing better to do ..
Fact: this game has a s*** UI which lags alot (you can test that by removing UI ),bad server connection for EU players and graphical engine not optimized for all the s*** you can spawn at the same time.
II said what happens and many people reported the same thing.Now we are all crazy and want an excuse for some unknown reason to not play against other players...your logic is fascinating.
I'd also question your "high end" PC's capabilities considering I play with high settings on a laptop with hardly any issues*, but that's probably a matter for another thread.
*The only time I get any significant problems is when I'm in a small ship being peppered with feedback pulse (and even then it's more a matter of not being able to see where I'm going than suffering FPS dips) and the massive white streaks in Red Alerts.
So a amd 7970 and a i7 cpu is now not enough ?
I make and sell PCs as a daily job so probably I dont know how to update drivers and keep the OS clean or maintain a PC.
One of the main reasons I almost never do FvK as a Fed nowadays is due to how bad Fed pugs are. The KDF standard of pug is just so much higher.
For starters when a RP KDF player picks his fav ship that's closest to how his favourite Trek portrayed Klinks, chances are it's a high damage dealer. Meanwhile when a Fed player picks similarly, chances are it's a cruiser that they'll try to turn into a DPS dealer. End result is a team of heavy damage dealers vs no-threat lumbering targets.
Next is the fact that the KDF pugs in FvK are just more skilled on average. This is hardly surprising as the more experienced Fed PvPers have just been scared off by all the KDF cheese.
I still play FvK a lot, but only on my Klink. To be honest it's rather boring how easy it is.
I dont care what the other team sees .If something like lag (from time to time you should play the game from Europe) or ship turning invisible is acceptable for you is not my problem.
Last time I checked, North Wales was in Europe.
ALL PvP in this game is consensual. You know what it may be like, you know it causes you problems, turn your graphics down for the duration of the fight. If you insist on PvPing in a team knowing you'll be unable to see what's going on, you're a liability to your team just by NOT turning them down.
I played Eve online whre you can have more massive pvp battles than STO and I never complained ....
You imply I don't play EvE... have you SEEN my signature and avatar? Having lived in Catch for a few months when it was owned by En Garde (puppet alliance to -A- at the time) and having to kick Gents, TEST, Goons, Fatal, Razor, and hell knows who else out of our space... yeah, I've been there.
I can't really see Cryptic developing TiDi for STO though, can you?
If you insist on PvPing in a team knowing you'll be unable to see what's going on, you're a liability to your team just by NOT turning them down.
I say that things disappear or ships turn invisible and you continue with your prerecorded message.I guess you should add "wanna be troll fanboy " on your sig.
Yeah, so does everyone else when you cal them out on their PC's capabilities :rolleyes:
clearly not you ,you just spam your pre recorded message about how good is the graphic engine when 10000 objects are spawned .
I said the reason I dont pvp against kdf on public queue (the topic of this thread) and your opinion about the reason I dont pvp against kdf is somewhere between not important and trolling.Maybe you know the real reason I dont play against kdf and why Im hidding it ...you probably have a conspiracy in your little pre recorded message.
clearly not you ,you just spam your pre recorded message about how good is the graphic engine when 10000 objects are spawned .
I said the reason I dont pvp against kdf on public queue (the topic of this thread) and your opinion about the reason I dont pvp against kdf is somewhere between not important and trolling.Maybe you know the real reason I dont play against kdf and why Im hidding it ...you probably have a conspiracy in your little pre recorded message.
So you no longer PvP against KDF? Fine. How about Fed v Fed? Because a Fed team can drop just as much warp plasma, carrier spam, theta radiation, feeback pulse, energy siphons etc as a KDF team.
If you still PvP against Feds, you're using it as an excuse, not a reason.
One of the main reasons I almost never do FvK as a Fed nowadays is due to how bad Fed pugs are. The KDF standard of pug is just so much higher.
For starters when a RP KDF player picks his fav ship that's closest to how his favourite Trek portrayed Klinks, chances are it's a high damage dealer. Meanwhile when a Fed player picks similarly, chances are it's a cruiser that they'll try to turn into a DPS dealer. End result is a team of heavy damage dealers vs no-threat lumbering targets.
Next is the fact that the KDF pugs in FvK are just more skilled on average. This is hardly surprising as the more experienced Fed PvPers have just been scared off by all the KDF cheese.
I still play FvK a lot, but only on my Klink. To be honest it's rather boring how easy it is.
I would repeat myslef, but I can say: it's exactly the opposite on lower levels. Since I started to level my toon on F2P account, in all the matches I played I was on the loosing side maybe once. In C&H. All Arenas I played in FvK (not many, that's true) ended with Feds either roflstomping Klinks, or, in few cases in something like 15:8-15:12. With Feds winning. Fed players were cooperating, healing itself etc. Even if I met someone who was plain newb they were usually listening to advises and observing the battlefield and what works and what not and adapting.
In Ker'rat it's even worse for Klingon side. I saw two(!) Klinks that were able to hold their own, and no Klinks able to properly team. Contrary to the Feds that were simply doing the Klinks job and ganking opposition. It was quite hilarous to see those Klinks running for their lives with Fed gank on their six blowing them again and again each time they decloaked and tried to attack or scan the Borg.
I also noticed something more: on lower levels in Ker'rat Feds are actually cooperating both in PvP and PvE part. Seeing the Fed ball rolling over Borg, cross healing and concentrating fire (and as one turning against Klinks if they start to do something stupid) was a "WTF, it cannot be true" moment for me.
I just wonder how many of those players will stay in PvP once they hit VA and the land of broken consoles, reputation system etc that they yet have to get. And players that were in this game for years.
Hasn't been dead at all from what I've seen past few days. Yeah it can be annoying being constantly ambushed by bop, or fighting off drain builds using all the cheese consoles, but FVF pvp can get really annoying to.They all use cheese against each other just as much, and a lot more sci spam, so Feds still que for FVK regularly. Also they are less likely to run into full premades so that may be another reason.
Players just go with whatever starts the fastest, so many don't want to wait for 8 feds to queue for FvF when they just need 4 or 5 to queue for FvK. KDF is usually already qued up or will queue up fast if they see Feds waiting so it will usually start fast.
PvP has been dead for a long time now. They wont be fixing this game for PvP. I think 3 years is obviously long enough to convince players except for the people with physiological withdrawal symptoms that things will not change.
My best advice for anyone trying to PvP for the first time in this game is to " not to " pvp. Try a different game because you will be disappointed. Don't make the same mistake many players did in the past.
I used to be hardcore pvper, ran with many teams, did a lot of matches in my time. I grew tired of the constant problems, false promises, constant politics and etc.
I don't play this game anymore. I play a different MMO and I am really enjoying the pvp in that game. Really well balanced and the company listens to it's consumers so I'm EXTREMELY pleased. I wish I could tell you all the game but it violates the forums rule.
Troll my post, act in denial, I don't care because this is an honest assessment of how I feel about this game. It's a shame that it was never meant to be. Here's to the future to whoever develops a good star trek game because this one is certainly the hell not.
My best advice for anyone trying to PvP for the first time in this game is to " not to " pvp.
Well, each time I read one of Thissler threads, or discussion about how this from rep, that from mines, of this other DOFF is broken, OP, unbalanced... I kinda understood you. And I fear the day when my RA gets to VA level.
I fear it because I play new character on new, F2P account. I fear because I do not have lots of time to play (some experience, but noobish still). I fear it because I have no will to play PvE outside of what I need to level up (as leveling with PvP is impossible) so I won't grind all those fleet stuff, all the bonuses from reputation system. I can throw a little money for a ship I like or two but... with all what I read about I think it is not worth it.
I fear that, after first few VA Arenas or Ker'rat matches, after being tricced, placated, DOFFed to death I will find this unfunny enough and leave the game. Waiting for season 8 that's for PvP, then season 9 that will be for sure for PvP then...
I love STO space combat engine. I really, really love PvP. Both C&H, Arenas and hunting Klinks that are unused to Feds using them as target practice. But each time I visit PvP forums...
As I said - I understand you. And I hope I wont follow after I reach VA. I really, really hope that flying some cheap ship with no intention to grind outside of hours in Ker'rat and waiting for Arenas will make me fun.
Hope dies last, huh?
Frack, should not write after getting home from work. Got all sentimental
Am I the only one noticing tac klingons being able to tank better than most eng fed tanks nowadays (Or on the same level)? I figure it has to do with the elite shields from the starbase, but if you want to talk about a killer of pvp. It has to do with the uselessness of the support classes when any class can do almost the same as the other with the right gear and boff layout.
If anything is making pvp unfun, it's that TRIBBLE. (For a engineer anyway :P)
I don't play this game anymore. I play a different MMO and I am really enjoying the pvp in that game. Really well balanced and the company listens to it's consumers so I'm EXTREMELY pleased. I wish I could tell you all the game but it violates the forums rule.
By "consumers" do you mean the game as a whole or just the PvP "comsumers"? I think Cryptic listens very well to their "comsumers" if they have organized PvP tag above their head (aka Fleet Name). Other than that, the rest are just ignored.
Its time Cryptic just tells the OPvP community to shut up, adapt, learn to play or get the heck out...
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Looks like it was handled already.
It does, I have no issue with it. It might have been nice to have a 3rd set of boffs that added something not related to cloaking - but its a nitpick (as the crit bonus is generally useful for everyone, although not as useful for many fed cruisers/sci ships).
Just imagine how many threads there would be however, if the embassy had nothing but BOFFs that seemed to clearly favor fed ships.
Right around when the original Cardassian box was announced (maybe a little before it), it was announced that all sub-T5 consoles would be proliferated. So only consoles that come on T5 ships would be excluded from this (and they are also exclusive to the T5 ship they come with).
So it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when with regards to console proliferation.
Of course, with the KDF having no T5 c-store ships in the first place, moot point really
Well, no.
The Bortasqu and Ody 3 pack consoles, the Gal-X & Defiant-R Cloak consoles, The MVAE MV Module, the HEC Photon Torp Console, Regent Metreon gas, etc.
These are all consoles that are only useable by the ships they come with and no other - and these were specifically called out at the time saying they would not be proliferated (and that probably also means they will never be proliferated within their own faction either, you'll never use the photon torp console from the HEC on the Ody for example).
Either
a) The majority of Feds are scared of the KDF
or
b) There is some bug that allows them to gain the rewards of a PVP match without actually being in the match. After all, even if someone leaves a match, their name still remains on the list
Well, I had the exact opposite, but on RA level. From all three (yay) Arenas yesterday in two at least one Klink left after he was killed for the first time or after it was clear that match is one sided (Feds beating Klink 10:0). In the one were no Klink left we got "noobs" as answer to our GG (we beat them 15:8, so I do not know why "noobs"). From those three matches only in one a Fed left.
I do not think all the problems with FvK are at Fed side. Klinks are not all that much better. Perhaps it looks different at VA, but at lower levels Klinks are just as whinny as Feds, if not more.
New generation of Klinks or what?
OP BoP you say ....that BS.I dont pvp against kdf because last time I did my ship and half of the maps turned invisible ( i have a high end pc with dual graphics cards and game installed on ssd so i cant blame my pc) from so much theta ,siphons and other 10 billions things summoned.Im not even saying kdf have op (they lost in that match ) things or feds have op things...this game engine was not made for so much s*** summoned at the same time.
In many games, where a "person" perceives the other side as OP - they will roll a toon on that side to take advantage of it. However, they are the same "person"...so they'll complain regardless.
And people don't believe me when I complain about spam and theta and warp plasma killing my GPU. I play on integral graphic card, not some gaming model so you can imagine what happens when there is a carrier or too much plasma/theta in a match.
sadly though, not all games should be played on all systems.
Do you even Science Bro?
I'd also question your "high end" PC's capabilities considering I play with high settings on a laptop with hardly any issues*, but that's probably a matter for another thread.
*The only time I get any significant problems is when I'm in a small ship being peppered with feedback pulse (and even then it's more a matter of not being able to see where I'm going than suffering FPS dips) and the massive white streaks in Red Alerts.
They probably can't believe you're playing on an integrated graphics card! :P
Anyway. As long as there is cheese a long FvK will be dead. Get rid of it, and it will be alive again. There were quite a lot of people playing FvK PUGs before first consoles and spam (an subsequent proliferation of WH40k carrier). It's just that after Klinks started to spam the **** out of every TRIBBLE in their bodies that FvK got empty.
And now Feds do the same.
Try running 1/2 visual resolution, zooming out when theta/ewp are used, disabling pets et al from UI.
Random Quote from Kerrat
"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
C&H Fed banter
Vet ship console, Karfi Phase console are others. Though I thought they changed the photon torp access, though that may have just been torp type.
Random Quote from Kerrat
"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
C&H Fed banter
I dont care what the other team sees .If something like lag (from time to time you should play the game from Europe) or ship turning invisible is acceptable for you is not my problem.
I played Eve online whre you can have more massive pvp battles than STO and I never complained ....probably in your little world you think I said what I said because I have nothing better to do ..
Fact: this game has a s*** UI which lags alot (you can test that by removing UI ),bad server connection for EU players and graphical engine not optimized for all the s*** you can spawn at the same time.
II said what happens and many people reported the same thing.Now we are all crazy and want an excuse for some unknown reason to not play against other players...your logic is fascinating.
So a amd 7970 and a i7 cpu is now not enough ?
I make and sell PCs as a daily job so probably I dont know how to update drivers and keep the OS clean or maintain a PC.
For starters when a RP KDF player picks his fav ship that's closest to how his favourite Trek portrayed Klinks, chances are it's a high damage dealer. Meanwhile when a Fed player picks similarly, chances are it's a cruiser that they'll try to turn into a DPS dealer. End result is a team of heavy damage dealers vs no-threat lumbering targets.
Next is the fact that the KDF pugs in FvK are just more skilled on average. This is hardly surprising as the more experienced Fed PvPers have just been scared off by all the KDF cheese.
I still play FvK a lot, but only on my Klink. To be honest it's rather boring how easy it is.
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ALL PvP in this game is consensual. You know what it may be like, you know it causes you problems, turn your graphics down for the duration of the fight. If you insist on PvPing in a team knowing you'll be unable to see what's going on, you're a liability to your team just by NOT turning them down. You imply I don't play EvE... have you SEEN my signature and avatar? Having lived in Catch for a few months when it was owned by En Garde (puppet alliance to -A- at the time) and having to kick Gents, TEST, Goons, Fatal, Razor, and hell knows who else out of our space... yeah, I've been there.
I can't really see Cryptic developing TiDi for STO though, can you?
Yeah, so does everyone else when you cal them out on their PC's capabilities :rolleyes:
I say that things disappear or ships turn invisible and you continue with your prerecorded message.I guess you should add "wanna be troll fanboy " on your sig.
clearly not you ,you just spam your pre recorded message about how good is the graphic engine when 10000 objects are spawned .
I said the reason I dont pvp against kdf on public queue (the topic of this thread) and your opinion about the reason I dont pvp against kdf is somewhere between not important and trolling.Maybe you know the real reason I dont play against kdf and why Im hidding it ...you probably have a conspiracy in your little pre recorded message.
If you still PvP against Feds, you're using it as an excuse, not a reason.
I may add "Feddie tear extractor". Yours are delicious, do you have any more?
I would repeat myslef, but I can say: it's exactly the opposite on lower levels. Since I started to level my toon on F2P account, in all the matches I played I was on the loosing side maybe once. In C&H. All Arenas I played in FvK (not many, that's true) ended with Feds either roflstomping Klinks, or, in few cases in something like 15:8-15:12. With Feds winning. Fed players were cooperating, healing itself etc. Even if I met someone who was plain newb they were usually listening to advises and observing the battlefield and what works and what not and adapting.
In Ker'rat it's even worse for Klingon side. I saw two(!) Klinks that were able to hold their own, and no Klinks able to properly team. Contrary to the Feds that were simply doing the Klinks job and ganking opposition. It was quite hilarous to see those Klinks running for their lives with Fed gank on their six blowing them again and again each time they decloaked and tried to attack or scan the Borg.
I also noticed something more: on lower levels in Ker'rat Feds are actually cooperating both in PvP and PvE part. Seeing the Fed ball rolling over Borg, cross healing and concentrating fire (and as one turning against Klinks if they start to do something stupid) was a "WTF, it cannot be true" moment for me.
I just wonder how many of those players will stay in PvP once they hit VA and the land of broken consoles, reputation system etc that they yet have to get. And players that were in this game for years.
Not many I fear.
Players just go with whatever starts the fastest, so many don't want to wait for 8 feds to queue for FvF when they just need 4 or 5 to queue for FvK. KDF is usually already qued up or will queue up fast if they see Feds waiting so it will usually start fast.
My best advice for anyone trying to PvP for the first time in this game is to " not to " pvp. Try a different game because you will be disappointed. Don't make the same mistake many players did in the past.
I used to be hardcore pvper, ran with many teams, did a lot of matches in my time. I grew tired of the constant problems, false promises, constant politics and etc.
I don't play this game anymore. I play a different MMO and I am really enjoying the pvp in that game. Really well balanced and the company listens to it's consumers so I'm EXTREMELY pleased. I wish I could tell you all the game but it violates the forums rule.
Troll my post, act in denial, I don't care because this is an honest assessment of how I feel about this game. It's a shame that it was never meant to be. Here's to the future to whoever develops a good star trek game because this one is certainly the hell not.
Have fun though, you won't be missed.
Well, each time I read one of Thissler threads, or discussion about how this from rep, that from mines, of this other DOFF is broken, OP, unbalanced... I kinda understood you. And I fear the day when my RA gets to VA level.
I fear it because I play new character on new, F2P account. I fear because I do not have lots of time to play (some experience, but noobish still). I fear it because I have no will to play PvE outside of what I need to level up (as leveling with PvP is impossible) so I won't grind all those fleet stuff, all the bonuses from reputation system. I can throw a little money for a ship I like or two but... with all what I read about I think it is not worth it.
I fear that, after first few VA Arenas or Ker'rat matches, after being tricced, placated, DOFFed to death I will find this unfunny enough and leave the game. Waiting for season 8 that's for PvP, then season 9 that will be for sure for PvP then...
I love STO space combat engine. I really, really love PvP. Both C&H, Arenas and hunting Klinks that are unused to Feds using them as target practice. But each time I visit PvP forums...
As I said - I understand you. And I hope I wont follow after I reach VA. I really, really hope that flying some cheap ship with no intention to grind outside of hours in Ker'rat and waiting for Arenas will make me fun.
Hope dies last, huh?
Frack, should not write after getting home from work. Got all sentimental
If anything is making pvp unfun, it's that TRIBBLE. (For a engineer anyway :P)
By "consumers" do you mean the game as a whole or just the PvP "comsumers"? I think Cryptic listens very well to their "comsumers" if they have organized PvP tag above their head (aka Fleet Name). Other than that, the rest are just ignored.
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