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Has your Medium to Small Starbase been ground to a Halt?
born2bwild1
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What's the low down on your med sized to small starbase dreams? Have they come to a "grinding" Halt?
I think Cryptic said they based the starbase on the avg fleet size of 25
So how does this Starbase system that the designed treat the Avg fleet that it was based around?
I think Cryptic said they based the starbase on the avg fleet size of 25
So how does this Starbase system that the designed treat the Avg fleet that it was based around?
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Now it's just me
#2311#2700#2316#2500
So your small fleet is for all intents and purposes - finished as a viable fleet/base progression?
Mines will be getting mothballed shortly at Tier II. Then i'll have to look for a new home with my four active characters. The remaining alt army will stay with the sinking ship.
So, with that in mind, I can almost guarantee that S7 isn't the only reason small to medium fleets are slowing down right now.
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We're down, but not out.
btw- We are totally ignoring the useless embassies.
Why were starbases see as the bees knees of the game? The must have thing? The biggest most exciting thing that everyone wanted?
I think many of us thought they would be a little more functional from the get go, ie; Bank, mail, exchange to start. Someplace to go where you could do transactions, you know...a reason for you to go there, a reason for it to exist.
To get your base semi-functional requires a massive outlay of material and time... those who have done that are reluctant to see that all go to waste so many will hold onto what they have.
That's the most obvious thing. They were given a lot of importance by players simply because it was the first real new thing we'd gotten in FOREVER and it was something the players had been asking for since before launch.... sadly the actual implementation was nothing like players had wanted but it was still something new to a playerbase desperate to find something to do in the game.
Remember, STO is in an unique position because people WANT to like it. They WANT to have a reason to play. They are willing to forgive and pay a lot more than one might imagine simply because they so so SO want to like it.
Personally, I was excited about bases because I (initially and eventually mistakenly) assumed that they would be at least as customizable as bases in City of Heroes.
Sadly, that is not what we got. Now I see bases as just something to do to pass the time while waiting for playable storyline content to be released.
Our medium-sized Federation fleet is moving along well, although it will still be a while before we reach Tier 3.
Not everyone ... more like the MMO players who came to STO .
(whom can still be Trek fans so it's cool !)
And some of those said MMO players imagined we'd get "player housing" .
Instead we got generic starbase #42 for me and #87 for you .
No individuality what so ever (aside from the ability to "name your starbase") .
I would ask a different question : how much time do you spend at your starbase ?
Because aside from what you get out of them (fleet ships) , that should be the #2 point of interest for investing in such a monumental effort .
Why are the bases so generic? Why are they not customizable? How much time to you spend there? And if its only a few minutes now and then - are they worth the effort for the equipment that you only "need" for PvP - something 90% of the people building bases don't do?
Why do the players put up with the lack of customization and options? I guess i kind of answered myself - they are giving up contributing to these things as they see them as a waste of time and resources.
most people say Season 7 is a fail - what about season 6?
Right now, we are 8 Projects away from unlocking the T3 Starbase, when we were 9 at the start of S7. And we barely completed one bar in the Embassy projects.
Cryptic really hurt small fleets and at this point we are just going to give up.
I don't know why they wouldn't let us customize our bases either, I could easily see furniture and fixtures being part of the crafting system.
In addition, which we got a choice of starbases as well.
Pardon my presumption, Azurian - but I thought you were part of Jupiter Force? Or do I have you mistaken for another of "those guys".
Am I the only that thought there would be fleet missions that would open up as you leveled the base? And what about Base PvP? I could've sworn some of that was mentiond as well.
This is the sad truth, if it wasn't for the Star Trek brand this game would be dead by now considering how poorly managed it has become. However because a lot of us need this Star Trek fix in our live we're willing to come back time after time.
The other problem with this is the developers know this and therefore know they can stave off fixing bugs or working on anything that doesn't directly give them financial reward.
As a player-base we're like one of those wives that despite all the domestic abuse keeps on coming back home regardless.
#2311#2700#2316#2500
Yes. Take a deep breath, calm down and think rationally. The resources sunk into the base are gone, but if you care about using the perks of a high level base what will be better for you and your remaining fleetmate? To never get there or to cut your loses now and join a larger fleet?
You can always move an alt into your old base so its not lost forever, even if you never go into it again knowing that an alt is keeping your old fleet and by extension your old base alive helps a lot.
Sorry, but I never was a member of Jupiter Force.
With 5 projects running concurently, we need 2640 fleet marks (3 x 600 + 2 x 420). With the officer report "3-clicky", it would be much more easier to fill those fleet mark slots. Now, I do Incursion and Alert once in a while. But Incursion only gives around 40 fms during the event and on a good run and Alert only gives 22 fms on a good run (also during the event).
Also, with the new restrictions on doff recruitement and my eternal luck with them (now, more than ever, I get green doffs instead of white ones and if I exchange the green ones, i either get civilians or sci doffs (which my mailbox is filled with enough to fill 2 sci projects).
And with the personal rep projects and the "new and improved" stfs, I have a lot of trouble gathering ecs that I'd want to throw in the fire for the starbase (buying batteries, torpedos, commodities, etc.).
And I just dont want to shell out the dil all the ambassy projects. So the ambassy wont reach T1 before... never!
I just can't wait to face the tier 3 upgrades and the gazillion dil involved in them.
So where have all your fleet mates gone? Have they left for bigger fleets? Are they still on you fleet roster but never sign in?
this was the plan all along. It is hard now and people are dropping smaller fleets.
But there is nothing "new" really to do until next may.
Cryptic will be saying they are "studying" the metrics of the progression.
Then by next may cryptic will turn around and drop the cost of everything to make a starbase.
Then they will turn around and add a new dilithium grind.
The reasoning behind this is that they don't want to discourage new players and smaller fleets.
All apart of the plan.
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Emphasis mine. Season 7 explained. Thanks for the link.
We are at 48K in Mil, Sci, and Eng as of this post and we will just focus on Tac to get the Tier 3 shipyard project. Hopefully, we can get that done and ready for the base upgrade before the first of the year.
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