To put it simply, the Vet rewards are powerful messages showcasing our commitment to the game, to reach 1000 days is a feat unto itself, and adding a ship for that milestone makes it a highly prized vessel with a huge amount of respect behind it.
Nobody's rushing to give vet rewards to people who've been playing for 1000 days, but are currently Silver.
Nobody's rushing to take away vet rewards from accounts who bought a lifetime during beta and quit the game after a week.
Nobody really benefits from keeping it from people who've already paid for 1000 days, save the vanity of a few individuals.
Nobody who's really committed to the game would put their ego before bringing in more revenue to fund more development.
This saves me, like, a month or two, at most. I don't particularly need the ship, but I'll sure take what I've already paid for.
This is a move designed to make people feel like they've spend less so they will funnel more money into the C-Store.
Pay 300 now... Makes you think "Yea... they aren't getting much more from me"... Next month... Back to feeling like a silver with WAY too much money in your pocket.
Why do you think regular Golds don't get this benefit?
Um no, it just requires some patience. I spend a lot less since I'm gold now, but I don't instant buy every new TRIBBLE they release.
Now lifetime is just worth 1 year of sub. That's interesting.
Yeah, rewarding people for making a long-term investment is terrible! I'm so upset at you Cryptic!
How is instantly opening 1000 days worth of Vet rewards to anyone with $300 rewarding those who supported Cryptic and made that long-term investment back when the game was in beta?
And if you mean by buying into the game now - nobody considering an LTS now will be considering it a 'long-term investment' - it's $300 for an exclusive ship, Liberated Borg captain, 500 Zen a month and a few more shinies. The game's free to play anyway - it's not like you need to invest any money to play it.
There's no way to interpret this that isn't a big FU to the Lifetimers. Cryptic isn't doing this 'cause they think it's unfair that everybody else can't share in the Chimera fun - they're doing it 'cause there's people out there stupid enough to pay $300 for a ship.
How is instantly opening 1000 days worth of Vet rewards to anyone with $300 rewarding those who supported Cryptic and made that long-term investment back when the game was in beta?
And if you mean by buying into the game now - nobody considering an LTS now will be considering it a 'long-term investment' - it's $300 for an exclusive ship, Liberated Borg captain, 500 Zen a month and a few more shinies. The game's free to play anyway - it's not like you need to invest any money to play it.
There's no way to interpret this that isn't a big FU to the Lifetimers. Cryptic isn't doing this 'cause they think it's unfair that everybody else can't share in the Chimera fun - they're doing it 'cause there's people out there stupid enough to pay $300 for a ship.
Here's a question, then, for all those saying this is a bad move: Would you have been okay with this had Cryptic also said "Along with this, for the 1000-day subbers, you get an exclusive title [insert witty 1000-day title here] and [insert some bonus here]"?
Or must they have kept the previous system, where LTS'er or regular Gold you had to stay in-game X number of days to get Y rewards?
EDIT: Basically, what does/did Cryptic need to do to make X-day subbers feel special after today's announcement?
How is instantly opening 1000 days worth of Vet rewards to anyone with $300 rewarding those who supported Cryptic and made that long-term investment back when the game was in beta?
And if you mean by buying into the game now - nobody considering an LTS now will be considering it a 'long-term investment' - it's $300 for an exclusive ship, Liberated Borg captain, 500 Zen a month and a few more shinies. The game's free to play anyway - it's not like you need to invest any money to play it.
There's no way to interpret this that isn't a big FU to the Lifetimers. Cryptic isn't doing this 'cause they think it's unfair that everybody else can't share in the Chimera fun - they're doing it 'cause there's people out there stupid enough to pay $300 for a ship.
I'm at 998 days as a lifer. I'm not fond of it, but it's not a giant FU to us. Most of the veteran rewards are sort of silly token thank you things or convenience. Yay free slots and respec and some skill points. I'm not complaining, but they're aren't, and shouldn't be game changing awesome.
But the point of them is that the reward actual veterans. If they want to have a promotion that is anyone who is a lifetime sub or anyone who is a 1000 day veteran gets one of these destroyer ships then.. ok? There's lots of stuff in this game not handed to lifers for free, one more new ship isn't any different. But don't present it as a veteran reward when it's not. As I said in the comment thread on the blog post, a 200 dollar (on sale) lifetime sub is 13 months of subscription time, so give... 13 months of veteran rewards maybe (400 days boost to played time). How about an exclusive starship material that is *actually* exclusive, or a title that is actually exclusive. If I want to show off that I've really been a lifer for 1000 days or whatever then they should encourage and reward that.
I don't mind giving away the ship as part of a promo. They've done that lots before, it's one of the carrots they hold out to get money. But a veteran reward is precisely not game altering because it's supposed to be well, a reward, for being a veteran. A ship can be (theoretically) game altering.
As I put it in the comment on the blog, it's dishonest to call it a veteran reward if you don't have to be a veteran to get it. There's nothing wrong with giving it away, there's nothing wrong with trying to have stuff in a promotion to get people to buy a lifetime sub. But then they're not veteran rewards they're lifetime or long term sub rewards. Loses some of the ring if you want to be honest about it.
I was excited and anxiously awaiting the 1000 day veteran rewards. I was looking forward to staying up tonight to get my Chimera when the clock clicked over.
Just weighing in, but here's the new 'Lifers Perks' list
Playable Federation or Klingon Liberated Borg character(s)
Unique costume piece: lifetime badge
Player title: Career Officer
Blue forum title: Career Officer
Costume Pieces: Alternative Future Comm Badge
Special Veteran Jacket Option
Special Veteran Uniform Option (Silver Jupiter Variant)
Special Veteran Uniform Option (Gold Jupiter Variant)
Klingon Shoulder Pads and Cape
Starships:
Chimera Heavy Destroyer
Pehgqu' Heavy Destroyer
Captain's Yacht/Chariot
Veteran Starship Material
Assorted:
Mugato Companion
Dilithium Refining Boost Doff Assignment
5% Skill Point and Expertise Boost
5% Team Skill and Expertise Boost
Free Ship at Vice Admiral/Lieutenant General
Android Bridge Officer
2 Free Starship Slots
2 Free Costume Slots
2 Free Character Slot
Captain's Table Access
Firework Ship Emote
4 Respecs (Per character)
You know I have been on the game as a LTS for 847 days and am very happy to see them doing this and not because I can't wait the remainder for the ship. I think this is a wonderful way for them to entice more lifetimers-- i.e. paying members who actually are helping support the game rather than F2P.
Yes while it is a little bittersweet for those like me who have been subscribed it bodes well for all of us to have more subscribers and less F2P. It also is a win for cryptic and win for the subscriber base to have more people with a vested interest in this games success.
I have a lot of LTS friends who have left (including myself) and come back. Just because I was subscribed doesn't mean I or anyone else has been playing all this time. It just means how long it's been since I purchased my sub. I have logged over 2000 hours playing which is probably more than some of those 1000 day vets. If you are an LTS you are default a veteran subscriber and you will own the game for the life of the game so really who cares when you get the perks. If you see more vet ships out there maybe some of those non-subs will decide to say I want that and pony up for a sub instead of $200 on stupid lock boxes which I know we all abhor.
I thought they should have done this a long time ago to encourage more subscribers and now available with a discount makes it an awesome buy. No regrets here....
Gold Sub since March 2010
Lifetime Sub since June 2010
Here's a question, then, for all those saying this is a bad move: Would you have been okay with this had Cryptic also said "Along with this, for the 1000-day subbers, you get an exclusive title [insert witty 1000-day title here] and [insert some bonus here]"?
Or must they have kept the previous system, where LTS'er or regular Gold you had to stay in-game X number of days to get Y rewards?
EDIT: Basically, what does/did Cryptic need to do to make X-day subbers feel special after today's announcement?
Might sound silly but for me, a title for the OLD LTSers, that get 1k days in the next lets say 3 month's would be a way of saying thank u for supporting us in our darkest hours. Trough beta, launch and F2P launch...
Gold members still have to stay in 1000 days before they can have the ship, it only is for LTS this "perk"
Talking to my self, asking stuff to my self, definitely not understanding my self. Such is the life of an overworked Starfleet admiral.
Please don't offer this kind of deal again. Every time I see something that doesn't distinct me from a f2p player or what a f2p player can buy as even a LIFER I get sick just reading it. Some have been lifers since DAY 1 IT WAS BEING SOLD. I bought my lifer sub on the last day of early start. I was in OB for a while and i still remember having a blast shooting up dev borg spheres and stuff outside ESD and on the ground outside quinns turbolift. I have great respect for those who subbed from day one but I'm about 2.5 weeks after them so I myself are kinda one of the early subbers.
The real vets really need some unique reward, or title. We've been here for 3 years and have gone through cryptics hardships even a year of no real new content. Why should a new player come in, buy a 200$ sub and then get to wear a veteran title? Me and probably many of the LTS have also bought many Cpoints/Atari tokens/Zen for the C-store so no a F2P does not necessarily always spend more on this game.
Its a good idea but really? ANYONE even a new LTS subber can look like an old STO vet of the good ol' days of killing random stuff in nebulas as KDF or flying around bright ribbons in sector space.
At least let them wait to get their titles... We actually waited to earn these rewards
--Q, Horatio Nelson, Francis Drake Nine of Seventeen--
Crypitic Handle: @Admiral_Drake - PWE:admiralkevin
REAL 1000 day LTS vet since OB.
While I still have some questions about the ship. Like is there a new bridge and such. Also how lotus will play with 4 Canons and 3 aft torrents. Also is the slipstream longer like it was with the oddy. Beyond all of that its a neat neat ship.
Now the bad.. I?m done. With playing?? Heck no! But they got my last sub money in September. I am/was a 6 month player from day one. I always said I was going to bail from paying if the vet was going to end. To me the vet rewards ending meant that payer support was ending. Why stay pay???? I have bought slots for BO's 18 BO's by the way. I bought toon slots even thou I only play one. I also bought bank slots. I don?t create on the foundry. I do enjoy playing it!. But they got my last sub. I assume I will get to keep my Vet title but wondering if I also get the forum header.
I always said it was a slap in the face to the players when they ended vet rewards. Now I hear today that anyone from today on that buys life will get the ship the day they buy life. So is it a cstore ship? Well no you cant buy it on cstore but yes you can buy it. If killing vet rewards was a slap this is a punch to all beta/launch lifers. Kind of even a punch to me because all people need to do is discover the game buy life and get the ship before me. Yea I will get it in like 2 weeks but still I hope you can see how its a knock to the people like me who have paid from day one but not bought life.
Cryptic it's a great way to bring more lifers in 4SURE! Coming from a business man you have really threw your "current" customers to the curb. If not lifers because heck you got there money! You tossed me to the curb. Well Ill get back up and hop back on the train to the stars. I love it! But ill buy my keys and everything else I can on the exchange and leave my sub money at home.
I was looking forward to the ship. I was keen to have a cool unique in game ship even it was not as OP a lockbox ship. So, sue me, I am vain (& a gamer) and wanted something because I was here at the start and have stuck with the game all this time. But now it is really just another Zen-store ship. So, I don?t really care anymore. - I know, I am a selfish, horrible person.
However, I also see it that PW/Cryptic does not think the game will last another 1000 days to make vet rewards worth it without removing the time limit.
I know there are a lot of people who cried ?DOOM? since day one and I have tried to never do that. But for the first time since STO came out I am beginning to feel there is a limited life left in this game.
"Star Trek Online is powered by the most abundant resource in the galaxy . . . Gullibility"
So, I'm a lifetime subscriber, have been for quite some time
Subscribed For: 992 Days
I have to say, I don't mind this at all. Making people who have paid for a lifetime subscription ,a golden key to the inevitable rewards if you will, wait is frankly petty.
Instead of worrying about having had to wait, be happy that others get to share in your fun.
Isnt that kinda what StarTrek is supposed to be all about anyway?
Yep - already read those - since you're interested, lets look at those:
Nobody really benefits from keeping it from people who've already paid for 1000 days, save the vanity of a few individuals.
Except now, as an LTS subscriber, you have nothing more to look forward to from your LTS except 500 Zen a month. Over the last 3 years, every hundred days I've gotten something cool - sometimes it was cooler than other times, but it was new, it was neat and it was free - all I had to do was wait for it. Now, if you pony up your $300 you get a big bundle of goodies and then - nothing. All you have is what you had before plus some new toys - nothing to look forward to except your Zen. Have fun with that.
Nobody who's really committed to the game would put their ego before bringing in more revenue to fund more development.
In case you hadn't noticed - there is no new development - just stuff to sell and horrible grinds to keep you playing - Defera, Nukara, The Vault, the STFs ,Fleet Starbases but no new Featured Episodes - no new story-driven content. New lockboxes - sure. The occasional new ship in the C-Store - yep. But other than that, what?
All this money's going somewhere, but it ain't funding further development. In the past, Cryptic actually achieved more with less.
And besides, this isn't about ego - buying into the game back then was a leap of faith - seeing the bare bones of what STO was and trusting in Cryptic a) not to fold within a few months of releasing the game and b) to build on what they had to make STO the MMO we all wanted it to be.
Well, they didn't fold, but both the game and the company are never going be what any of us were hoping for 3 years ago. But I guess I'm just wasting my time venting here - or perhaps I'm just writing because I'm putting my 'ego' first.
Cryptic, So let me get this straight. I'm 29 days from 'Earning' my 1,000 days. And some player (who has only been playing for 3 weeks) can just purchase a lifetime membership and get the same thing I've been earning for a 1,000 days?? And this is how you reward your faithful players who have spent thousands of hours & spent hundreds (maybe thousands) of dollars by giving the newcomer the same reward because they purchased your LTS??
And if you're really hurting for money--Here's a good marketing strategy: LOWER your prices and people will buy.
I was looking forward to the ship. I was keen to have a cool unique in game ship even it was not as OP a lockbox ship. So, sue me, I am vain (& a gamer) and wanted something because I was here at the start and have stuck with the game all this time. But now it is really just another Zen-store ship. So, I don?t really care anymore. - I know, I am a selfish, horrible person.
However, I also see it that PW/Cryptic does not think the game will last another 1000 days to make vet rewards worth it without removing the time limit.
I know there are a lot of people who cried ?DOOM? since day one and I have tried to never do that. But for the first time since STO came out I am beginning to feel there is a limited life left in this game.
Agreed whole heartedly. We had faith in the game and paid for a "limited" offer of the lifetime sub pre-launch. We've felt cheated ever since. And if this doesn't scream "the game is ending soon" I don't know what is. There's no other reason to fast track everyone to the 1,000 Day Veteran points other than admitting that they will never reach it on their own even with a Lifetime Sub.
1k veteran reward in less than 24hrs of it being unveiled becomes a 1 day veteran reward.
it's a huge insult to any one that is a lifer of any kind or any gold members out there. you clearly have no respect for the players that are lifers or gold members.
so we only got these ships so they could be used as a lifer sales gimmick???
if i had monthly sub i would cancel. however i'm a life and i paid as soon as i could and it was a gamble.
saturday should be when i hit 1k, it now don't feel like it should be special. it feels worthless......
I feel ya 100 percent! This ship was not a reward it was a sales gimmick to bring in new people. From day one I have payed a 6 month sub and was looking forward to my 1000. A badge of honor! Yea people I have been here from day one. A 1000 day vet club. Now its a cstore/account store toss up to anyone. You may be sitting next to that ship at dock wednesday and you are a 1000 day and the person next to you is a one day. I wrote my sub goodby letter on the forum
this is great news! i have been waiting for this for months, and you also get all the veteran rewardes! epic move cryptic the best you have made since i am playing this game, i am becoming a lifer as soon as possible!:)
Not a bad deal, I've gotten quite a bit out of my lifetime subscription in the past two years, so I have no issues with being over 900+ days for my STO account, and getting some early goodies is a neat bonus.
However...
Toss us an android playable race, more Liberated Borg species, and all those yummy lock box ships... I'd drop another $300 on another lifetime subscription in a heartbeat.
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You know I have been on the game as a LTS for 847 days and am very happy to see them doing this and not because I can't wait the remainder for the ship. I think this is a wonderful way for them to entice more lifetimers-- i.e. paying members who actually are helping support the game rather than F2P.
Yes while it is a little bittersweet for those like me who have been subscribed it bodes well for all of us to have more subscribers and less F2P. It also is a win for cryptic and win for the subscriber base to have more people with a vested interest in this games success.
I have a lot of LTS friends who have left (including myself) and come back. Just because I was subscribed doesn't mean I or anyone else has been playing all this time. It just means how long it's been since I purchased my sub. I have logged over 2000 hours playing which is probably more than some of those 1000 day vets. If you are an LTS you are default a veteran subscriber and you will own the game for the life of the game so really who cares when you get the perks. If you see more vet ships out there maybe some of those non-subs will decide to say I want that and pony up for a sub instead of $200 on stupid lock boxes which I know we all abhor.
I thought they should have done this a long time ago to encourage more subscribers and now available with a discount makes it an awesome buy. No regrets here...."
Pretty much.
I'm a new player (56 days) and after my 3 months were up on my subscription i'd have input no more money into the game. As it stands, I just coughed up for the LTS. While not everyone is happy with what they are doing, it is having the desired result.
I just wish that Cryptic gave a time of exclusivity for the 1000-day veterans to have this ship and play with it. Perhaps along with 1000-day, do the $200 sale for 1 month.
Then, perhaps on the 3-year anniversary, let LTS'ers get everything the moment they pay $300 for the LTS (and of course retroactively for all LTS'ers). Also then announce a 1000-someodd day exclusive title, "Founder of the Federation" perhaps, to distinguish them from "I got everything at once" LTS'ers.
I think that would have appeased everyone...or at least, upset fewer.
So, does this mean that my lifetime account be updated to have all the verteran rewards?
I am @ 649 days on my lts, does this mean I now get the 700, 800, 900 and 1000 day rewards on the 10th?
Yup. Congrats to you guys. As upset as those of us who have been here since the beginning probably are right now, the good stuff is in these later Veteran Rewards packages. They just need to rename them stat and just call them "Lifetime Sub Perks." You'll love the Android Bridge Officer and now you won't have to pay for a VA ship slot. :-)
I do get the feeling you should enjoy them while you can. This screams "there's no way the game will be around long enough for all lifers to get to 1,000 on their own."
Yeah no.... 3 pages read... tired of reading them. This is the stupidist thing Cryptic has ever done. I was looking forward to Thursday to hit so I could move out of my basic Odyssey class and enjoy this sweet new ship. Now... I don't really care. It's not going to be special, it's not going to be great, it's going to be another ship anyone with a Lifetime can get into. No more vet rewards sadden's me. Don't give the whole "there are still going to be new vet rewards" speech, now that anyone with a LTS gets them the minute they roll into game makes it a moot point. I devouted 998 days to the game and this ship was going to be great, I was going to be one of the very first group to have access and to flying the ship. Now, come tomorrow, everyone with a LTS will be flying one. Yay! Great job, great amazing job indeed!
Why does Cryptic have to get me all excited that I'm going to get something extra when all I'm getting is something now Ive already earned over 99.9% of and would get next week anyway.
That's not a new benefit if the original people who bought a LTS don't get anything.
This is kind of like the time they used the beta access to Neverwinter as a "new benefit". That doesn't even have anything to do with STO and beta testing is something we give cryptic its not something they give us anyway.
They could have at least given me a couple weeks in the new ship while it would be somewhat rare.
Comments
Nobody's rushing to give vet rewards to people who've been playing for 1000 days, but are currently Silver.
Nobody's rushing to take away vet rewards from accounts who bought a lifetime during beta and quit the game after a week.
Nobody really benefits from keeping it from people who've already paid for 1000 days, save the vanity of a few individuals.
Nobody who's really committed to the game would put their ego before bringing in more revenue to fund more development.
This saves me, like, a month or two, at most. I don't particularly need the ship, but I'll sure take what I've already paid for.
Um no, it just requires some patience. I spend a lot less since I'm gold now, but I don't instant buy every new TRIBBLE they release.
Now lifetime is just worth 1 year of sub. That's interesting.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
How is instantly opening 1000 days worth of Vet rewards to anyone with $300 rewarding those who supported Cryptic and made that long-term investment back when the game was in beta?
And if you mean by buying into the game now - nobody considering an LTS now will be considering it a 'long-term investment' - it's $300 for an exclusive ship, Liberated Borg captain, 500 Zen a month and a few more shinies. The game's free to play anyway - it's not like you need to invest any money to play it.
There's no way to interpret this that isn't a big FU to the Lifetimers. Cryptic isn't doing this 'cause they think it's unfair that everybody else can't share in the Chimera fun - they're doing it 'cause there's people out there stupid enough to pay $300 for a ship.
I direct you to numbers 3 and 4.
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Or must they have kept the previous system, where LTS'er or regular Gold you had to stay in-game X number of days to get Y rewards?
EDIT: Basically, what does/did Cryptic need to do to make X-day subbers feel special after today's announcement?
I'm at 998 days as a lifer. I'm not fond of it, but it's not a giant FU to us. Most of the veteran rewards are sort of silly token thank you things or convenience. Yay free slots and respec and some skill points. I'm not complaining, but they're aren't, and shouldn't be game changing awesome.
But the point of them is that the reward actual veterans. If they want to have a promotion that is anyone who is a lifetime sub or anyone who is a 1000 day veteran gets one of these destroyer ships then.. ok? There's lots of stuff in this game not handed to lifers for free, one more new ship isn't any different. But don't present it as a veteran reward when it's not. As I said in the comment thread on the blog post, a 200 dollar (on sale) lifetime sub is 13 months of subscription time, so give... 13 months of veteran rewards maybe (400 days boost to played time). How about an exclusive starship material that is *actually* exclusive, or a title that is actually exclusive. If I want to show off that I've really been a lifer for 1000 days or whatever then they should encourage and reward that.
I don't mind giving away the ship as part of a promo. They've done that lots before, it's one of the carrots they hold out to get money. But a veteran reward is precisely not game altering because it's supposed to be well, a reward, for being a veteran. A ship can be (theoretically) game altering.
As I put it in the comment on the blog, it's dishonest to call it a veteran reward if you don't have to be a veteran to get it. There's nothing wrong with giving it away, there's nothing wrong with trying to have stuff in a promotion to get people to buy a lifetime sub. But then they're not veteran rewards they're lifetime or long term sub rewards. Loses some of the ring if you want to be honest about it.
Now, not so much. I feel very let down.
Playable Federation or Klingon Liberated Borg character(s)
Unique costume piece: lifetime badge
Player title: Career Officer
Blue forum title: Career Officer
Titles:
Stalwart
Redoubtable
Dauntless
Valiant
Relentless
Magnificent
Impressive
Vigilant
Guardian
Starfleet/Empire Veteran
Costume Pieces:
Alternative Future Comm Badge
Special Veteran Jacket Option
Special Veteran Uniform Option (Silver Jupiter Variant)
Special Veteran Uniform Option (Gold Jupiter Variant)
Klingon Shoulder Pads and Cape
Starships:
Chimera Heavy Destroyer
Pehgqu' Heavy Destroyer
Captain's Yacht/Chariot
Veteran Starship Material
Assorted:
Mugato Companion
Dilithium Refining Boost Doff Assignment
5% Skill Point and Expertise Boost
5% Team Skill and Expertise Boost
Free Ship at Vice Admiral/Lieutenant General
Android Bridge Officer
2 Free Starship Slots
2 Free Costume Slots
2 Free Character Slot
Captain's Table Access
Firework Ship Emote
4 Respecs (Per character)
Yes while it is a little bittersweet for those like me who have been subscribed it bodes well for all of us to have more subscribers and less F2P. It also is a win for cryptic and win for the subscriber base to have more people with a vested interest in this games success.
I have a lot of LTS friends who have left (including myself) and come back. Just because I was subscribed doesn't mean I or anyone else has been playing all this time. It just means how long it's been since I purchased my sub. I have logged over 2000 hours playing which is probably more than some of those 1000 day vets. If you are an LTS you are default a veteran subscriber and you will own the game for the life of the game so really who cares when you get the perks. If you see more vet ships out there maybe some of those non-subs will decide to say I want that and pony up for a sub instead of $200 on stupid lock boxes which I know we all abhor.
I thought they should have done this a long time ago to encourage more subscribers and now available with a discount makes it an awesome buy. No regrets here....
Lifetime Sub since June 2010
Might sound silly but for me, a title for the OLD LTSers, that get 1k days in the next lets say 3 month's would be a way of saying thank u for supporting us in our darkest hours. Trough beta, launch and F2P launch...
Gold members still have to stay in 1000 days before they can have the ship, it only is for LTS this "perk"
The real vets really need some unique reward, or title. We've been here for 3 years and have gone through cryptics hardships even a year of no real new content. Why should a new player come in, buy a 200$ sub and then get to wear a veteran title? Me and probably many of the LTS have also bought many Cpoints/Atari tokens/Zen for the C-store so no a F2P does not necessarily always spend more on this game.
Its a good idea but really? ANYONE even a new LTS subber can look like an old STO vet of the good ol' days of killing random stuff in nebulas as KDF or flying around bright ribbons in sector space.
At least let them wait to get their titles... We actually waited to earn these rewards
Crypitic Handle: @Admiral_Drake - PWE:admiralkevin
REAL 1000 day LTS vet since OB.
Now the bad.. I?m done. With playing?? Heck no! But they got my last sub money in September. I am/was a 6 month player from day one. I always said I was going to bail from paying if the vet was going to end. To me the vet rewards ending meant that payer support was ending. Why stay pay???? I have bought slots for BO's 18 BO's by the way. I bought toon slots even thou I only play one. I also bought bank slots. I don?t create on the foundry. I do enjoy playing it!. But they got my last sub. I assume I will get to keep my Vet title but wondering if I also get the forum header.
I always said it was a slap in the face to the players when they ended vet rewards. Now I hear today that anyone from today on that buys life will get the ship the day they buy life. So is it a cstore ship? Well no you cant buy it on cstore but yes you can buy it. If killing vet rewards was a slap this is a punch to all beta/launch lifers. Kind of even a punch to me because all people need to do is discover the game buy life and get the ship before me. Yea I will get it in like 2 weeks but still I hope you can see how its a knock to the people like me who have paid from day one but not bought life.
Cryptic it's a great way to bring more lifers in 4SURE! Coming from a business man you have really threw your "current" customers to the curb. If not lifers because heck you got there money! You tossed me to the curb. Well Ill get back up and hop back on the train to the stars. I love it! But ill buy my keys and everything else I can on the exchange and leave my sub money at home.
However, I also see it that PW/Cryptic does not think the game will last another 1000 days to make vet rewards worth it without removing the time limit.
I know there are a lot of people who cried ?DOOM? since day one and I have tried to never do that. But for the first time since STO came out I am beginning to feel there is a limited life left in this game.
I have to say, I don't mind this at all. Making people who have paid for a lifetime subscription ,a golden key to the inevitable rewards if you will, wait is frankly petty.
Instead of worrying about having had to wait, be happy that others get to share in your fun.
Isnt that kinda what StarTrek is supposed to be all about anyway?
Yep - already read those - since you're interested, lets look at those:
Except now, as an LTS subscriber, you have nothing more to look forward to from your LTS except 500 Zen a month. Over the last 3 years, every hundred days I've gotten something cool - sometimes it was cooler than other times, but it was new, it was neat and it was free - all I had to do was wait for it. Now, if you pony up your $300 you get a big bundle of goodies and then - nothing. All you have is what you had before plus some new toys - nothing to look forward to except your Zen. Have fun with that.
In case you hadn't noticed - there is no new development - just stuff to sell and horrible grinds to keep you playing - Defera, Nukara, The Vault, the STFs ,Fleet Starbases but no new Featured Episodes - no new story-driven content. New lockboxes - sure. The occasional new ship in the C-Store - yep. But other than that, what?
All this money's going somewhere, but it ain't funding further development. In the past, Cryptic actually achieved more with less.
And besides, this isn't about ego - buying into the game back then was a leap of faith - seeing the bare bones of what STO was and trusting in Cryptic a) not to fold within a few months of releasing the game and b) to build on what they had to make STO the MMO we all wanted it to be.
Well, they didn't fold, but both the game and the company are never going be what any of us were hoping for 3 years ago. But I guess I'm just wasting my time venting here - or perhaps I'm just writing because I'm putting my 'ego' first.
And if you're really hurting for money--Here's a good marketing strategy: LOWER your prices and people will buy.
Agreed whole heartedly. We had faith in the game and paid for a "limited" offer of the lifetime sub pre-launch. We've felt cheated ever since. And if this doesn't scream "the game is ending soon" I don't know what is. There's no other reason to fast track everyone to the 1,000 Day Veteran points other than admitting that they will never reach it on their own even with a Lifetime Sub.
I feel ya 100 percent! This ship was not a reward it was a sales gimmick to bring in new people. From day one I have payed a 6 month sub and was looking forward to my 1000. A badge of honor! Yea people I have been here from day one. A 1000 day vet club. Now its a cstore/account store toss up to anyone. You may be sitting next to that ship at dock wednesday and you are a 1000 day and the person next to you is a one day. I wrote my sub goodby letter on the forum
I believe that this is a sign that it's "Neverwinter or Bust" at Cryptic studios now.
If it's any consolation, Champions is still fun and gets a tidbit here and there still.
https://youtube.com/user/MyBalkanGaming
*plants C4 explosives*
click, click, BOOM!
:rolleyes:
thx @ Cryptic for slapping your true long time customers in the face yet again just to suck in some more LTA sales.
However...
Toss us an android playable race, more Liberated Borg species, and all those yummy lock box ships... I'd drop another $300 on another lifetime subscription in a heartbeat.
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I am @ 649 days on my lts, does this mean I now get the 700, 800, 900 and 1000 day rewards on the 10th?
Pretty much.
I'm a new player (56 days) and after my 3 months were up on my subscription i'd have input no more money into the game. As it stands, I just coughed up for the LTS. While not everyone is happy with what they are doing, it is having the desired result.
Then, perhaps on the 3-year anniversary, let LTS'ers get everything the moment they pay $300 for the LTS (and of course retroactively for all LTS'ers). Also then announce a 1000-someodd day exclusive title, "Founder of the Federation" perhaps, to distinguish them from "I got everything at once" LTS'ers.
I think that would have appeased everyone...or at least, upset fewer.
If u read it than u know the answer is yes, why u think some/most are raging about it?
Yup. Congrats to you guys. As upset as those of us who have been here since the beginning probably are right now, the good stuff is in these later Veteran Rewards packages. They just need to rename them stat and just call them "Lifetime Sub Perks." You'll love the Android Bridge Officer and now you won't have to pay for a VA ship slot. :-)
I do get the feeling you should enjoy them while you can. This screams "there's no way the game will be around long enough for all lifers to get to 1,000 on their own."
That's not a new benefit if the original people who bought a LTS don't get anything.
This is kind of like the time they used the beta access to Neverwinter as a "new benefit". That doesn't even have anything to do with STO and beta testing is something we give cryptic its not something they give us anyway.
They could have at least given me a couple weeks in the new ship while it would be somewhat rare.