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U.S. military named its aircraft after the Klingon Bird of Prey

snowlilisnowlili Member Posts: 34 Arc User
edited July 2012 in Ten Forward
Boeing Bird of Prey
The Boeing Bird of Prey was a black project aircraft.
It developed technology and materials which would later be used on Boeing's X-45 unmanned combat air vehicle.
The aircraft's name is a reference to the Klingon Bird of Prey warship from the Star Trek television series.

There is also the F-22 'Raptor', and Klingons have 'Raptors'.

I just found out something disturbing about the Klingons from Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. Apparently, they were strongly compared to the TRIBBLE: Kirk's reference at the table about the "breathing room" and the color theme for the Klingon banners.

Does U.S. military equate itself to the late Klingons now?

The latest Klingons from JJ Abrams ST movie look... like 'beasts' under helmets.

I don't like this at all. :(

Maybe Star Trek is not for me.
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  • mandrake45mandrake45 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    A raptor is also a bird of prey, such as an eagle, hawk, falcon. All 3 of which are or have been US Fighter aircraft names.
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  • hrisvalarhrisvalar Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    snowlili wrote: »
    The latest Klingons from JJ Abrams ST movie look... like 'beasts' under helmets.

    I don't like this at all. :(

    Maybe Star Trek is not for me.

    Egad, do they really have to reimagine Klingons again? I knew they might need some updating to match modern movie realism, but that... Were-Shredder!?

    That's just a cheap ploy to go after the TMNT and Twilight fans.
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  • commadorebobcommadorebob Member Posts: 1,223 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Don't think too much into it. All of the US Army's helicopters are named after American Indians:
    Chinook
    Apache
    Kiowa
    Comanche

    Birds of prey is an unofficial term for raptor-type birds (eagles, hawks, etc). These birds are known for swooping down and snatching their prey while looking majestic while doing it. So obviously, you can understand why the military would use those names.

    Plus, having the Bald Eagle be our mascot helps.
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  • velktravelktra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    In the case of the Raptor, the US military actually had the name first. The F-22 Raptor started flying (but not on active duty) in 1997, but the Klingon Raptor didn't make an appearance until the Enterprise episode "Sleeping Dogs" in 2005. The F-22 entered active duty the same year, but had been in test flights and such for eight years beforehand.

    The ultimate homage to Star Trek is still the fact that fans managed to convince NASA to name the first shuttle Enterprise. :P
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  • commadorebobcommadorebob Member Posts: 1,223 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    velktra wrote: »
    In the case of the Raptor, the US military actually had the name first. The F-22 Raptor started flying (but not on active duty) in 1997, but the Klingon Raptor didn't make an appearance until the Enterprise episode "Sleeping Dogs" in 2005. The F-22 entered active duty the same year, but had been in test flights and such for eight years beforehand.

    The ultimate homage to Star Trek is still the fact that fans managed to convince NASA to name the first shuttle Enterprise. :P

    But remember that the Enterprise was so named because of the famous carrier USS Enterprise that fought in WWII.
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  • velktravelktra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    commadorebob wrote: »
    But remember that the Enterprise was so named because of the famous carrier USS Enterprise that fought in WWII.

    Yeah there's that too. They've been trading names back and forth for a long time; a lot of Star Trek ships have been named after real ones... or they at least share a name even if it was unintentional.
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  • commadorebobcommadorebob Member Posts: 1,223 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    velktra wrote: »
    Yeah there's that too. They've been trading names back and forth for a long time; a lot of Star Trek ships have been named after real ones... or they at least share a name even if it was unintentional.

    Well, Gene was heavily influenced by real ships. The Enterprise and the Yorktown being sister ships, for example.
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  • nyiadnyiad Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    OP, ST VI was comparing the Klingons to the communists...hense the whole conversation with Hamlet in "Original Klingon;" commi's back then were just taking known stuff and taking credit.
  • archanubisarchanubis Member Posts: 152 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    snowlili wrote: »
    There is also the F-22 'Raptor', and Klingons have 'Raptors'.
    Pretty sure "Raptor" name was used for the F-22 before it was used on "Enterprise."
    hrisvalar wrote: »
    Egad, do they really have to reimagine Klingons again? I knew they might need some updating to match modern movie realism, but that... Were-Shredder!?
    Not sure how "re-imaged" they are until we see under their helmets. After all, the whole point of the helmets was to keep it ambiguous whether their foreheads were smooth or had the ridges of TMP and beyond.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    archanubis wrote: »
    Not sure how "re-imaged" they are until we see under their helmets. After all, the whole point of the helmets was to keep it ambiguous whether their foreheads were smooth or had the ridges of TMP and beyond.

    That might make it more tolerable. Might. Those helmets look really.... stupid...
  • eiledoneiledon Member Posts: 595 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    as a warrior race armor makes sense, even if they are now spacegoing they would retain some semblance of armor for purposes of tradition as much as anything.

    Particularly if they play up the more agressive nature where subordinates get promotion by killing their superior etc.

    As for ships etc being named after each other - remember Raptor is most likely a federation assigned name for the family style of craft, same as Bird of Prey. I wish they had thought to give this a true klingon class name in ENT when it appeared.
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  • lomax6996lomax6996 Member Posts: 512 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    nyiad wrote: »
    OP, ST VI was comparing the Klingons to the communists...hense the whole conversation with Hamlet in "Original Klingon;" commi's back then were just taking known stuff and taking credit.

    The TOS Klingons were very much patterned after the old Soviet Union. In later portrayals a certain Nazism did creep in... but let's be honest. The difference between radical National Socialism and Soviet style Communism amounts to hairsplitting at best... :P
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  • davidjay1972davidjay1972 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    velktra wrote: »
    Yeah there's that too. They've been trading names back and forth for a long time; a lot of Star Trek ships have been named after real ones... or they at least share a name even if it was unintentional.

    Also, the US Navy has had a ship named Enterprise it's entire history. I have a suspicion that the US will never not have a ship named Enterprise. If we built an FTL ship tomorrow, I would wager that it would be named Enterprise.
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