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New bridge officer pack a CON!!!!

timjerromtimjerrom Member Posts: 11 Arc User
edited July 2012 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Ive purchased the new bridge officer pack 6 times now and havnt been lucky enough to get the Freighter, sucks as why the HELL isnt it in the C-Store? :mad: #bad mood Tim#
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  • sosolidshoesosolidshoe Member Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    timjerrom wrote: »
    Ive purchased the new bridge officer pack 6 times now and havnt been lucky enough to get the Freighter, sucks as why the HELL isnt it in the C-Store? :mad: #bad mood Tim#

    Or, if you put your brain in gear for a moment, you could have put those packs up on the exchange for EC, let someone else take the gamble, and then bought the Tuffli on the Exchange in a few weeks when the price has settled :rolleyes:
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  • mandrake45mandrake45 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Or you could realise that the odds will be somewhat lower than 1 in 6.

    Besides, you're still getting doffs, which is what you are paying for. How are they a con exactly?
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  • eiledoneiledon Member Posts: 595 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    lol they are selling doff packs - with a low chance to get a freighter. you still get the doffs. a con would result in you ending up with nothing. even lockboxes were/are not a con, just weighted very much in favour of the vendor not the buyer.

    I agree with other posters. I put one doff pack on the exchange first day and got 5mil for it, opened the other and got a nice flight deck officer for my carrier. Win Win. If you don't expect to win big every time, you won't be disappointed so often. And sometimes life can surprise you - while I was on after the server reboot that introduced the packs, 6 people in space of 30 mins posted links to their freighter boxes, so they are in there. Luck of the draw man.
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  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I opened about 30 Cardassian Lockboxes, about the same in Gamma Quadrant Duty Officers and no ship, the odds are stacked so far against you it's really not worth trying for the ship. The system isn't designed to be fair or equal, it's totally random and not how I would do it, but I'm not Cryptic.

    You only opened 6, lucky you, I'd stop while you're ahead, it's only worth doing if you want duty officers with the bonus items just that a bonus.
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  • defalusdefalus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    timjerrom wrote: »
    Ive purchased the new bridge officer pack 6 times now and havnt been lucky enough to get the Freighter, sucks as why the HELL isnt it in the C-Store? :mad: #bad mood Tim#

    You said yourself that you have not been "lucky" enough so I assume you realise that there is no guarantee that a pack when opened will have the Tuffli.:rolleyes:
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  • nalonalo Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    mandrake45 wrote: »
    Or you could realise that the odds will be somewhat lower than 1 in 6.

    Besides, you're still getting doffs, which is what you are paying for. How are they a con exactly?
    eiledon wrote: »
    lol they are selling doff packs - with a low chance to get a freighter. you still get the doffs. a con would result in you ending up with nothing. even lockboxes were/are not a con, just weighted very much in favour of the vendor not the buyer.

    I agree with other posters. I put one doff pack on the exchange first day and got 5mil for it, opened the other and got a nice flight deck officer for my carrier. Win Win. If you don't expect to win big every time, you won't be disappointed so often. And sometimes life can surprise you - while I was on after the server reboot that introduced the packs, 6 people in space of 30 mins posted links to their freighter boxes, so they are in there. Luck of the draw man.
    defalus wrote: »
    You said yourself that you have not been "lucky" enough so I assume you realise that there is no guarantee that a pack when opened will have the Tuffli.:rolleyes:
    Yep what they said;)
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    It's a cleverly disguised Grab-bag... Deal with it.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
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  • dublinraiderdublinraider Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I'm a big fan of the Doff system.
    I buy the packs for the Doffs and the chance at other goodies is a bonus.
    Previously i didn't buy or support lockboxes.
  • timjerromtimjerrom Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Ok ok I understand that its just a money making scheme to get you to get you to buy into something with a remote chance you will get it, Perfect World are not a great company (just my view) Being forced to change over from my Cryptic profile and register with Perfect World to even just post a msg on the STO forum about it sucks a litl, but im NEVER gunna buy anymore Cryptic Points or now Zen. Apart from if they reliece the Constellation Class :rolleyes: what I kinda have a soft spot for :rolleyes:

    ****NOTE TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE AND WILL SLAM ME DOWN WITH THIS, I do not care nd just was warning other people not to get duped into paying good money on the chance that you will end up with a shiney new freighter****


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  • mikewendellmikewendell Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    To be honest, a lot of folks preferred this over the lock boxes when they ran the last promotion with the gamma quadrant doff packages. With the lock boxes, you stood a very good change of receiving nothing of value. At least with these, you're going to get a selection of doffs that you can use.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=273037

    A lot of those folks had anti lock box images in their sigs in that thread.

    of the two, I would rather have something like this over the lock boxes we also have.
  • oldmccoyfanoldmccoyfan Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    timjerrom wrote: »
    Ive purchased the new bridge officer pack 6 times now and havnt been lucky enough to get the Freighter, sucks as why the HELL isnt it in the C-Store? :mad: #bad mood Tim#

    :rolleyes: Here we go again.

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  • captainvallentcaptainvallent Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I bought those new DOff packs for the new Flight Officers and got EXACTLY what I wanted pretty much off the first pull.

    I didn't get ripped off.
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  • shakesfistatskyshakesfistatsky Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    2 Freighters in 25 doff packs.

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  • mikewendellmikewendell Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    shakesfistatsky wrote: »
    2 Freighters in 25 doff packs.

    Don't hate me.

    I;m tempted just to buy a few just to see what I get.
  • rickpaaarickpaaa Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I bought $50 worth of zen, spent 2000 on the ship sale, and spent the rest on duty officers. In keeping with my luck, no freighter. Nice new duty officers, though I am seeing a lot of white now.

    I was hoping that the freighter would be easier to get, and it may be for someone with normal gambling luck.
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  • hawks3052hawks3052 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    It's PWs business model to create revenue. After Lock Boxes got a bad mood with the community the model was changed into the Officer packs.
  • hrci2907hrci2907 Member Posts: 648 Media Corps
    edited July 2012
    its not a conn! its just you obviously dont know what you are talking about. :(
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  • sollafsollaf Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Are you paying 220cp for a doff pack?
    Were you paying 220 for a doff pack last month?

    There is no con just because you don't get the super lucky lottery prize.

    The ship is in addition to the normal doffs, its a bonus, the cost of the pack has not been raised.
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  • tobar26thtobar26th Member Posts: 799 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    dublinraider wrote: »
    I'm a big fan of the Doff system.
    I buy the packs for the Doffs and the chance at other goodies is a bonus.
    Previously i didn't buy or support lockboxes.

    Yeah, I'm pretty much with this.
  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I tend to think of a con as in where they promise something and fail to deliver it for the investment one made.

    The OP's misconception is an example of why people are often suckered into playing lotteries - each time you buy a ticket / mystery box, the odds are reset - you don't improve your chances by buying more.

    As far as things are concerned, the odds are clearly stated this time, and the worst-case scenario yields one a number of useful DOffs.
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  • adabisiadabisi Member Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    The odds are pretty low.....


    That being said i bought, last night, 10 packs and got 4 freighters....3 were back to back.......I promptly sold 2 for 55mil each and gave one away for the quickest repsonse to my question in a tell...
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  • jkstocbrjkstocbr Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    This is how Cryptc/PWE make money with a F2P model. I do sometimes miss the subscription days - same amount of content and less garbage.
  • shantavishantavi Member Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    timjerrom wrote: »
    Ive purchased the new bridge officer pack 6 times now and havnt been lucky enough to get the Freighter, sucks as why the HELL isnt it in the C-Store? :mad: #bad mood Tim#

    Wow.. *SIX* whole packs? That many?

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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    timjerrom wrote: »
    Ive purchased the new bridge officer pack 6 times now and havnt been lucky enough to get the Freighter, sucks as why the HELL isnt it in the C-Store? :mad: #bad mood Tim#

    LOL. 6 packs?! *gasp* you been robbed! :D

    You could buy 600 packs and get squat, but Cryptic will thank you for your money. (Actually they won't.)
  • rtk142rtk142 Member Posts: 613 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    timjerrom wrote: »
    ****NOTE TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE AND WILL SLAM ME DOWN WITH THIS, I do not care nd just was warning other people not to get duped into paying good money on the chance that you will end up with a shiney new freighter****

    Thing is there IS a chance at the ship, you just didn't get one. Seven could be your lucky number, or it could take seven hundred. That's how these things work.
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  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    timjerrom wrote: »
    Ive purchased the new bridge officer pack 6 times now and havnt been lucky enough to get the Freighter, sucks as why the HELL isnt it in the C-Store? :mad: #bad mood Tim#

    At least you stopped at less than $10. Some people spent hundreds upon hundreds of dollars on previous ships and walked away empty-handed.

    While Cryptic does not post the odds of winning, previous ships had an expected value of about $150 US.

    My words of advice: if you want to gamble, learn to play poker or blackjack. It is a lot more fun and you can actually win something more valuable than a flag in Cryptic's database indicating that you own the ship of the month.
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