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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    It's obvious I'm going to need a laptop upgrade as I currently use an older 2007 MacBook Pro. I was at Best Buy looking at the ASUS G60VX priced at $949.

    Comes with following:
    Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P7450 - 2.13 GHz per core
    4GB DDR2 memory
    320GB Serial ATA hard drive (7200 rpm)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M graphics

    How would this work?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    It's obvious I'm going to need a laptop upgrade as I currently use an older 2007 MacBook Pro. I was at Best Buy looking at the ASUS G60VX priced at $949.

    Comes with following:
    Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P7450 - 2.13 GHz per core
    4GB DDR2 memory
    320GB Serial ATA hard drive (7200 rpm)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M graphics

    How would this work?
    That's a good buy. STO should play at high.
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-260M.14559.0.html
    I just read the specs: Creative Audigy HD man this is a good deal
    Battery Life sucks but for a unit this powerful not unexpected. Up to 1 hour and 36 minutes. This is consider an desktop replacement. You can always get a usb battery pack. Good buy.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    im running windows 2003 but i can play wow tuned all the way up no problem does that mean i shouldn't have a problem 3.2 duel proc and 3 gigs ram
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    kirkj2932 wrote: »
    im running windows 2003 but i can play wow tuned all the way up no problem does that mean i shouldn't have a problem 3.2 duel proc and 3 gigs ram

    I assume you mean a 3.2GHz dual-core CPU? That would be fine. And 3GB of RAM is fine.

    As for Windows 2003, why are you running an enterprise server oriented OS? Windows 2003 is equivalent to Windows XP. For gaming, I'd run Windows XP or Windows 7. Cryptic didn't say if STO will work on Windows 2003 or 2008 server-oriented platforms.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Undecisiv3 wrote:
    Hey guys, I live pretty close to a frys electronics and I wanted to buy a good desktop for gaming forxmas but my budget is only 600-700 dollars. do you guys have any suggestions. I'm very new to pc gaming.

    Tigard, Oregon

    You can also have Fry's build you a system. I was in my local store today and ask. The labor for hardware only is $60.00. With OS install $100.00. I can help you pick parts. For $700.00 you can get a really good system.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Hey, White Knight and Cipher Nemo - I was posting under Captain Garrett before - I just wanted to say thanks for your help and advice! I got my new system and tested CO and am very impressed with how the system performs! I know you can't really go wrong with certain aspects of cpu's, but it meant a lot to get a little piece of mind regarding things I didn't quite know about. Much thanks!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Hey, White Knight and Cipher Nemo - I was posting under Captain Garrett before - I just wanted to say thanks for your help and advice! I got my new system and tested CO and am very impressed with how the system performs! I know you can't really go wrong with certain aspects of cpu's, but it meant a lot to get a little piece of mind regarding things I didn't quite know about. Much thanks!
    Great, what did you get?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I've read a lot of these posts which allude to the rather odd list of graphics cards.

    I have a Dell Inspiron 545 Core 2 Quad Q9400 / 2.66 GHz
    8GB RAM / 64-bit OS
    1TB HD
    ATI RADEON HD 3450 with 256GB

    I just purchased a NVIDIA GeForce 210 graphics card with the following specs:
    512 MB DDR2 memory
    589 MHz core clock
    1402 MHz Processor Clock
    4.7 Billion/sec Texture Fill rate
    800 MHz Memory Data rate (effective)
    64-bit memory interface
    6.4 GB/sec memory bandwith

    With the addition of this new graphics card, can any of our more tech-saavy friends tell me if my system will run STO at optimal settings?

    Thanks!!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Hey, White Knight and Cipher Nemo - I was posting under Captain Garrett before - I just wanted to say thanks for your help and advice! I got my new system and tested CO and am very impressed with how the system performs! I know you can't really go wrong with certain aspects of cpu's, but it meant a lot to get a little piece of mind regarding things I didn't quite know about. Much thanks!

    Awesome. Do share your new PC specs. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    lutherd wrote: »
    I've read a lot of these posts which allude to the rather odd list of graphics cards.

    I have a Dell Inspiron 545 Core 2 Quad Q9400 / 2.66 GHz
    8GB RAM / 64-bit OS
    1TB HD
    ATI RADEON HD 3450 with 256GB

    I just purchased a NVIDIA GeForce 210 graphics card with the following specs:
    512 MB DDR2 memory
    589 MHz core clock
    1402 MHz Processor Clock
    4.7 Billion/sec Texture Fill rate
    800 MHz Memory Data rate (effective)
    64-bit memory interface
    6.4 GB/sec memory bandwith

    With the addition of this new graphics card, can any of our more tech-saavy friends tell me if my system will run STO at optimal settings?

    Thanks!!!

    Unfortunately you went from a low-end video card to another low-end video card. For NVIDIA, I'd go at least 220, as that's double the fillrate of your 210. But for quality gaming without lag and decent;y high graphics, I'd go with at least a 240. That 7950 they mention as minimum requirement has 13.4 GT/sec vs. the 210 with 4.7 GT/sec. Their minimum is high, but that should give you an idea of how underpowered the 210 is.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    lutherd wrote: »
    I've read a lot of these posts which allude to the rather odd list of graphics cards.

    I have a Dell Inspiron 545 Core 2 Quad Q9400 / 2.66 GHz
    8GB RAM / 64-bit OS
    1TB HD
    ATI RADEON HD 3450 with 256GB

    I just purchased a NVIDIA GeForce 210 graphics card with the following specs:
    512 MB DDR2 memory
    589 MHz core clock
    1402 MHz Processor Clock
    4.7 Billion/sec Texture Fill rate
    800 MHz Memory Data rate (effective)
    64-bit memory interface
    6.4 GB/sec memory bandwith

    With the addition of this new graphics card, can any of our more tech-saavy friends tell me if my system will run STO at optimal settings?

    Thanks!!!
    You should ways research before you buy something for your PC. The G 210 is the value card for the Nvidia 200 series. If STO will play on this card it will be at the lowest setting and resolution.

    It looks like the Dell Inspiron 545 is equip with a 300 W PSU. You can add a ATI HD 4650 or 4670. These cards should let you run STO at med settings. If you want to run more powerful cards you will need to replace the PSU.

    EDIT: cipher_nemo again, I need to type faster. :D. I was thinkning about tell him about the GT 240 but he would need a 350 W PSU. Ops, I transpose 12 for 21. Thanks
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    You should ways research before you buy something for your PC. The G 120 is the value card for the Nvidia 200 series. If STO will play on this card it will be at the lowest setting and resolution.

    It looks like the Dell Inspiron 545 is equip with a 300 W PSU. You can add a ATI HD 4650 or 4670. These cards should let you run STO at med settings. If you want to run more powerful cards you will need to replace the PSU.

    He bought the 210, not the 120. But same difference, still a value card. Newer does not always equal better, lutherd.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    well, it says i am not allowed to post attachments. weard
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Operating System : Windows Vista Home Premium Service Pack 2
    Language : English
    System Manufacturer : Acer
    System Model : Aspire X1700
    BIOS : Default System BIOS
    Processor : Intel (R) Core (TM) 2 Duo CPU E7300 @ 2.66GHz (2 CPU's) ~2.7 GHz
    Memory : 4094 MB RAM
    Page File : 1737 MB used , 6666 available
    Windows Dir : C:\windows
    DirectX Version : DirectX 11
    DX Setup Parameters : Not Found
    DxDiag Version : 7.00.6002.18107 64 bit Unicode

    Display Devices
    Card Name : NVIDA GeForce G100
    Manufacturer : NVIDIA
    Chip type : GeForce G100
    DAC type : Integrated RAMDAC
    Display memory : 2286 MB
    Dedicated Memory : 494 MB
    Shared Memory : 1791 MB
    Current Mode : 1680 X 1050 (32 bit) (60 Hz)
    Monitor : Acer LCD Monitor v223w
    Driver name : nvd3dumx.dll
    Driver Version : 8.16.0011.9107 (English)
    DDI Version : 10
    BGRA Supported : Yes
    Driver Date : 9/27/2009
    WHQL Logo'd : Yes


    I think that about it on my comp, there was a lot more but that is the basics.

    Is there a way to see what cpu socket you got without opening the comp?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Laramie wrote: »
    Operating System : Windows Vista Home Premium Service Pack 2
    Language : English
    System Manufacturer : Acer
    System Model : Aspire X1700
    BIOS : Default System BIOS
    Processor : Intel (R) Core (TM) 2 Duo CPU E7300 @ 2.66GHz (2 CPU's) ~2.7 GHz
    Memory : 4094 MB RAM
    Page File : 1737 MB used , 6666 available
    Windows Dir : C:\windows
    DirectX Version : DirectX 11
    DX Setup Parameters : Not Found
    DxDiag Version : 7.00.6002.18107 64 bit Unicode

    Display Devices
    Card Name : NVIDA GeForce G100
    Manufacturer : NVIDIA
    Chip type : GeForce G100
    DAC type : Integrated RAMDAC
    Display memory : 2286 MB
    Dedicated Memory : 494 MB
    Shared Memory : 1791 MB
    Current Mode : 1680 X 1050 (32 bit) (60 Hz)
    Monitor : Acer LCD Monitor v223w
    Driver name : nvd3dumx.dll
    Driver Version : 8.16.0011.9107 (English)
    DDI Version : 10
    BGRA Supported : Yes
    Driver Date : 9/27/2009
    WHQL Logo'd : Yes


    I think that about it on my comp, there was a lot more but that is the basics.

    Is there a way to see what cpu socket you got without opening the comp?
    It's Socket 775. Also I believe it only has a 220 W PSU.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Are these graphics good enough?
    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Thanks, I have no idea how you found that out, but im happy, From what I understand my CPU is holding me in the mid range, the rest is all in the max range. May see if I can get a better processor to remedy that. This also came with a Windows 7 upgrade but I have not installed it, now sure how STO does on Windows 7.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Laramie wrote: »
    Thanks, I have no idea how you found that out, but im happy, From what I understand my CPU is holding me in the mid range, the rest is all in the max range. May see if I can get a better processor to remedy that. This also came with a Windows 7 upgrade but I have not installed it, now sure how STO does on Windows 7.
    The CPU is not the problem. It's that G 100 card. That site is reporting it wrong. You have two of us telling you the exact same thing.
    http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/acer-aspire-x1700-u3700a/4505-3118_7-33508017.html?tag=content;col1
    but don't expect the video card to power your graphics-intensive PC games.

    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2341405,00.asp
    There's good news and bad news for the X1700 in the 3D department. The Nvidia GeForce G100 graphics card is at least DX10 hardware-compliant, so our 3D benchmark tests and games were able to load. However, the numbers I got on the two game tests, Crysis and World in Conflict, were quite unplayable single-digit frame rates. That means that the X1700 is ill suited for playing current 3D games. The GeForce G100 is good for light 3D and video playback, rather than playing 3D games.

    More reviews saying the exact same thing.
    http://review.zdnet.com/product/desktops/acer-aspire-x1700-u3700a/33508017
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Are these graphics good enough?
    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100
    No it not good enough. Read the last four pages of this thread for Graphic cards info.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    ok then, will buy a better video card and processor, not a problem.

    little edit

    oh it has a 350 w psu.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Quick...will a NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 1GB work for STO???
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Laramie wrote: »
    ok then, will buy a better video card and processor, not a problem.

    little edit

    oh it has a 350 w psu.
    The video card is more important. Doing both would be better.
    With that PSU you could get a ATI HD 4650/4670 or a Geforce GT 240. Next month ATI should have the new 5650/5670 cards out. With that PSU not much you can do. Slime-line PC's are the worst to service and upgrades. No room and special design PSU. Plus you'll the need video card to be of low-profile design. Newegg has four 4650 listed. I can only recommend the Visontek or ASUS. The ASUS is using a weird double bracket low profile which takes up two slots and blocks the x1 slot on your system. If you are not using it then you are OK. If you need the x1 slot you will need this.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+106792627+1067944046&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&Subcategory=48&description=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=low+profiles
    Very limited selection on low profile cards.You can also google "low profile 4650"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Quick...will a NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 1GB work for STO???

    Yes, it will let you play STO at high/very high. But you need to make sure your PSU can power the card. You need to look on the box for the system requirement.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Thanks guys, you been load of help, AAFES stocks everything i could ever want as to computer componants :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Will ATI Radeon HD 4200 graphics work?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Rekhan wrote:
    We just updated the FAQ, but wanted to call it out here, as well. Star Trek Online's system requirements are as follows:
    System Requirements
    OS: Windows XP SP2 / Windows Vista / Windows 7 (32 or 64-bit) CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 Ghz or AMD Athlon X2 3800+ Memory: 1GB RAM Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 / ATI Radeon X1800 / Intel HD Graphics Sound: DirectX 9.0c Compatible Soundcard DirectX: Version 9.0c or Higher HDD: 8GB Free Disk Space Network: Internet Broadband Connection Required Disc: 6X DVD-ROM Recommended System Configuration
    OS: Windows XP SP2 / Windows Vista / Windows 7 (32 or 64-bit) CPU: Intel E8400 Core 2 Duo or AMD Athlon X2 5600+ Memory: 2GB RAM+ Video: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 / ATI Radeon HD 3850+ Sound: DirectX 9.0c Compatible Soundcard DirectX: Version 9.0c or Higher HDD: 8GB Free Disk Space Network: Internet Broadband Connection Required Disc: 6X DVD-ROM

    Link to the news article.

    should be able to run this perfectly on all settings :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Rubedo1 wrote: »
    should be able to run this perfectly on all settings :D

    Will a AMD Phenom II X4 810 processor work?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Will a AMD Phenom II X4 810 processor work?
    Yes and then some.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Will ATI Radeon HD 4200 graphics work?
    Very low setting. Are you building a system?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Very low setting. Are you building a system?

    Look at this computer http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=12527036 So the graphics suck?
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