I have a 4 year-old Dell that I've basically ignored except for when I needed to presentations, papers, or run programs that wouldn't work on my mac. But since this game looks like my old favorite StarFleet Command 3 on steroids, I'm hoping that my old system will play it without buying new hardware. If not, I'll have to see what is cheaper - upgrading the Dell or purchasing Windows + VMware fusion for my Mac.
Ran the "Can You Run It" from cyri and got a fail:
Help please. I would offer Romulan homebrew but it would be illegal to ship.
Edit - I should mention that I don't need it to look beautiful - I just need it to work and for gameplay to be unhindered.
OK I found this: Just added Intel core 2 duo to my 9100
Base on this info and the BIOS A03 date of 08/11/06 you should be able to run any Intel Core 2 duo Conroe series cpus with a Release Date of July 27, 2006 or early. Any after that may won't work.
After flashing you BIOS you will need to disable disable HT in the bios for the Core 2 CPU to work. And use the CPU FAN that comes with whatever CPU you get.
I think you have a 375 W PSU. You will need to verify this. If so you can add a ATI HD 4650 or 4670. Next month the new 5650 and 5670 will be release. These cards are better then the GeForce 6800 you have.
If you want better cards then these you would need to replace the CPU.
Or just buy a refurbish PC with a Core 2 Duo. If you have craigslist check out.
I mean, I could probably run something like WoW just fine on my computer ... only I don't want to play WoW, I'm after STO. My laptop is probably nigh unupgradeable, and I can't justify buying a new one just to join the game.
We believe that the minimum specs are a little high. Your system should be able to run STO at low/med. This is a educated guess. Now cipher_nemo may have more info.
Yup, White Knight nailed it. The minimum specs are a little high for the NVIDIA card since Cryptic also listed an ATI card in there as well for comparison. And that ATI card is way below the NVIDIA card in performance.
You'll most likely be able to play STO at low settings without too much lag. With that processor, it sounds like you're running a laptop. Please correct me if you're not. The laptop 7600 is going to be little a fraction less powerful than the desktop 7600 GT card, but close.
It really comes down to how much lag you can tolerate during gameplay. The WoW client probably runs quite smoothly on your laptop, but STO is going to be more demmanding. With lower settings, I'm guessing your FPS will be in the 20s to 30s, so should be ok.
If worse comes to worse, you can always run STO in lower resolutions to speed things up until it's smooth.
this sucks. my comp has a single core 1.4ghz with a video card that isn't that great. i can only play wow on the lowest setting but its completely lag free. i have no money to upgrade or buy a new computer either. *sigh*
Back again. I chose to abandon the notion of trying to play on the dv3510 as well as buying a more potent laptop. I don't really need mobility, and I came to suspect that the upgrade needs of my current desktop would take it into new computer territory. I'd do the dxdiag for its replacement, but I haven't set it up, and probably won't have time to until after New Years'. But its features include:
AMD Phenom II X4 910 quad-core processor
8GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM
2MB L2 cache memory
1TB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm)
ATI Radeon HD 4350 graphics
My only concern is the HD 4350 card. . .I hear it's a value card, and is thus garbage for intensive gaming. But the system overall struck me as a sound foundation for the price, and I figure that the worst that could happen is that I'll need a card/power supply upgrade in the future. Is that a reasonable expectation or am I guilty of overdoing the optimism to cover up a dumb move?
Back again. I chose to abandon the notion of trying to play on the dv3510 as well as buying a more potent laptop. I don't really need mobility, and I came to suspect that the upgrade needs of my current desktop would take it into new computer territory. I'd do the dxdiag for its replacement, but I haven't set it up, and probably won't have time to until after New Years'. But its features include:
AMD Phenom II X4 910 quad-core processor
8GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM
2MB L2 cache memory
1TB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm)
ATI Radeon HD 4350 graphics
My only concern is the HD 4350 card. . .I hear it's a value card, and is thus garbage for intensive gaming. But the system overall struck me as a sound foundation for the price, and I figure that the worst that could happen is that I'll need a card/power supply upgrade in the future. Is that a reasonable expectation or am I guilty of overdoing the optimism to cover up a dumb move?
Yes, the 4350 is a value card. If STO plays on it, it will be very laggy. See what PSU it has. If it has a 300 W PSU you can add a ATI HD 4650/4670 or the new 5650/5670 that comes out next month. These cards should play STO at med/high. GTS 250 or HD 4850/5770 needs a 450 W PSU with a 6 pin PCIE cable. GTX 260 525 W with 2 6 pin PCIE cables.
Yes, the 4350 is a value card. If STO plays on it, it will be very laggy. See what PSU it has. If it has a 300 W PSU you can add a ATI HD 4650/4670 or the new 5650/5670 that comes out next month. These cards should play STO at med/high. GTS 250 or HD 4850/5770 needs a 450 W PSU with a 6 pin PCIE cable. GTX 260 525 W with 2 6 pin PCIE cables.
It's 300 W. Think I'll take the conservative route and go with one of the HD 46**/56** cards for now. Gotta save something for school next semester.
Thanks, BTW. . .conferring with you among others has been very enlightening.
I don't see your specs in your post. What CPU do you have? What motherboard? Or is this a laptop?
Yeah my computer is a laptop. My specs all seem up to snuff according to the System Requirements Lab utility, except it said that the processor isn't in the Recommended range.
I am just wondering if this processor can be upgraded in a few years, or like most laptops are proprietary like I've heard.
This is what Dxdiag produced, the first section:
System Information
Time of this report: 12/15/2009, 23:04:09
Machine name: GARY-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255)
Language: English
System Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
System Model: Satellite A505
BIOS: InsydeH2O Version 1.70
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 1788MB used, 6397MB available
Windows Dir: C:\windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode
what do you think about my CPU? I did not have any problems with any games except CO when it was open beta. I only had about 30 fps max thats why I didn't buy it. I do belive that it is because of the CPU.
Well I might be wrong and the open beta of CO wasn't that optimized.
I would be happy for any help.
Greetings from me
Here're my specs:
System Information
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 9800GTX+ 512 MB
Time of this report: 12/16/2009, 11:56:31
Machine name: PC
Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.090805-0102)
Language: German (Regional Setting: German)
System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
System Model: MS-7551
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 8400 Triple-Core Processor (3 CPUs), ~2.1GHz
Memory: 3326MB RAM
Page File: 956MB used, 5936MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode
what do you think about my CPU? I did not have any problems with any games except CO when it was open beta. I only had about 30 fps max thats why I didn't buy it. I do belive that it is because of the CPU.
Well I might be wrong and the open beta of CO wasn't that optimized.
I would be happy for any help.
Greetings from me
Here're my specs:
System Information
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 9800GTX+ 512 MB
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 8400 Triple-Core Processor (3 CPUs), ~2.1GHz
Memory: 3326MB RAM
Looks fine to me. The video card is solid and will perform at high settings (or even max for many resolutions). The CPU and memory are fine too.
I have a question......I know the reason for me not being selected for beta as of yet was probably that my computer sucked so here's my question I'm building a new one based on the STO requirements, is it possible to update my application to the beta??
I have a question......I know the reason for me not being selected for beta as of yet was probably that my computer sucked so here's my question I'm building a new one based on the STO requirements, is it possible to update my application to the beta??
I really doubt that was the reason why. Cryptic wanted a big range of systems to test, even if they were very low in spec. It was more likely due to your active presence in the community (you only have 8 pages of posts) and other unknown factors. But that is just my opinion based on who I've seen get accepted and who is still waiting or will never get accepted.
As for your app, I really don't know if you can change it. But regardless, I wouldn't worry about it.
:Dwould thisa work I spent a lot to get it just for STO
System Information
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 2816MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4200
Display Memory: 700.0 DDR2
:Dwould thisa work I spent a lot to get it just for STO
System Information
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 2816MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4200
Display Memory: 700.0 DDR2
Like I said I paid good for the new setup lol
The ATI Radeon HD 4200 is not a gaming card. If STO will run it will be very laggy. I assume this is a Desktop what PSU do you have? If it has a 300 W PSU you can add a ATI HD 4650/4670 or the new 5650/5670 that comes out next month. These cards should play STO at med/high. GTS 250 or HD 4850/5770 needs a 450 W PSU with a 6 pin PCIE cable. GTX 260 525 W with 2 6 pin PCIE cables.
:Dwould thisa work I spent a lot to get it just for STO
System Information
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 2816MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4200
Display Memory: 700.0 DDR2
Like I said I paid good for the new setup lol
CPU is good. Memory is fine. Your video, though, is a problem.
The 4200 is not marketing as a gaming GPU. In fact, it's built-in graphics hardware and not ever a separate card. Its performance is on par with an ATI 2400 or an NVIDIA 6600. It doesn't meet the minimum requirements. While you'll probably be able to install and run STO on it, performance would be bad enough that it would not be "playable" or enjoyable, even at lower settings. In other words, it would be very laggy.
I'd recommend an upgrade (if desktop) or a new system (if laptop). Why did you buy this system for STO when it's below minimum spec?
EDIT: Looks like White Knight beat me by a couple minutes. At least we're both on the same page for the 4200.
CPU is good. Memory is fine. Your video, though, is a problem.
The 4200 is not marketing as a gaming GPU. In fact, it's built-in graphics hardware and not ever a separate card. Its performance is on par with an ATI 2400 or an NVIDIA 6600. It doesn't meet the minimum requirements. While you'll probably be able to install and run STO on it, performance would be bad enough that it would not be "playable" or enjoyable, even at lower settings. In other words, it would be very laggy.
I'd recommend an upgrade (if desktop) or a new system (if laptop). Why did you buy this system for STO when it's below minimum spec?
EDIT: Looks like White Knight beat me by a couple minutes. At least we're both on the same page for the 4200.
I was going to tease you. I finely bet you:D
EDIT I copy and paste.
I'm constantly on the go, so a desktop is out of the question for me right now. Due to our beloved economy, I'm also not going to be able to spend more than $700 on a new system as of right now... I came across this deal here from OfficeDepot:
* High-performance Intel Core 2 Duo processor lets you handle the demands of today's software.
* Extra-large 4GB memory lets you run your most demanding programs.
* 400GB hard drive holds thousands of songs, photos and documents.
* 16" diagonal widescreen TruBrite® LCD.
* Wireless-N for high-performance, cable-free networking. Lets you access wireless networks to share files, surf the Web and exchange email. Can provide improved range and speed within a Wireless-N network, and is also compatible with 802.11b/g networks. High-speed wired networking is supported, too.
* Plays and burns CDs and DVDs. Plus, built-in Labelflash technology lets you create and burn your own labels right onto your discs. (Labelflash media is required, sold separately.)
* High-performance graphics via nVidia GeForce GT 230M graphics processor. Features a large 1GB of dedicated DDR3 memory with up to 2814MB total available memory (including shared). Great for viewing video and other high-demand imagery.
* Face recognition software, for hassle-free logins. Securely access your computer and accounts without typing passwords.
* Memory card reader for fast, easy photo transfers. Transfer your digital photos, music and other files from 5 types of memory cards.
* Provides up to 2.25 hours of battery life on a single charge.
* Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit. The newest version of Windows makes everyday tasks simple.
What do you guys think? Anybody came across a better deal so far? Been also looking at NewEgg deals, but so far nothing for under $700. If I had the money, I'd definitely go for this one:
Model Y550 (324156U)
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU Type Intel Core i7 720QM(1.6GHz)
Screen 15.6"
Memory Size 4GB DDR3
Hard Disk 500GB
Optical Drive DVD±R/RW
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 240M
Video Memory 1GB GDDR3
HDD 500GB
I really doubt that was the reason why. Cryptic wanted a big range of systems to test, even if they were very low in spec. It was more likely due to your active presence in the community (you only have 8 pages of posts) and other unknown factors. But that is just my opinion based on who I've seen get accepted and who is still waiting or will never get accepted.
As for your app, I really don't know if you can change it. But regardless, I wouldn't worry about it.
Thanks or the insight, true I have not been too active for some time now, been mostly on my fleet's site. A month and a half should fly by though :rolleyes: ......
I'm constantly on the go, so a desktop is out of the question for me right now. Due to our beloved economy, I'm also not going to be able to spend more than $700 on a new system as of right now... I came across this deal here from OfficeDepot:
* High-performance Intel Core 2 Duo processor lets you handle the demands of today's software.
* Extra-large 4GB memory lets you run your most demanding programs.
* 400GB hard drive holds thousands of songs, photos and documents.
* 16" diagonal widescreen TruBrite® LCD.
* Wireless-N for high-performance, cable-free networking. Lets you access wireless networks to share files, surf the Web and exchange email. Can provide improved range and speed within a Wireless-N network, and is also compatible with 802.11b/g networks. High-speed wired networking is supported, too.
* Plays and burns CDs and DVDs. Plus, built-in Labelflash technology lets you create and burn your own labels right onto your discs. (Labelflash media is required, sold separately.)
* High-performance graphics via nVidia GeForce GT 230M graphics processor. Features a large 1GB of dedicated DDR3 memory with up to 2814MB total available memory (including shared). Great for viewing video and other high-demand imagery.
* Face recognition software, for hassle-free logins. Securely access your computer and accounts without typing passwords.
* Memory card reader for fast, easy photo transfers. Transfer your digital photos, music and other files from 5 types of memory cards.
* Provides up to 2.25 hours of battery life on a single charge.
* Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit. The newest version of Windows makes everyday tasks simple.
What do you guys think? Anybody came across a better deal so far? Been also looking at NewEgg deals, but so far nothing for under $700. If I had the money, I'd definitely go for this one:
Model Y550 (324156U)
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU Type Intel Core i7 720QM(1.6GHz)
Screen 15.6"
Memory Size 4GB DDR3
Hard Disk 500GB
Optical Drive DVD±R/RW
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 240M
Video Memory 1GB GDDR3
HDD 500GB
Both systems are very good. The Toshiba usually have really good screens. The lenovo has that i7 cpu and GT 240M. It's more powerful then the Toshiba. STO should play at Very High on the GT 240. High on the GT 230. If you're choosing between these two systems I would go this the lenovo. The i7 CPU and GT 240M PGU will give you a longer system life.
You have a integrated NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE chip. Not good for gaming. The good news is your system should have a 300 W PSU and a free PCIE X16 slot. I would recommend getting a ATI HD 4650 or 4670. They only need 300 W to run. Now next month the new ATI 5650 and 5670 should be out. The will replace the other cards. These cards should let you play at med/high. If cash is tight try a 3650 it a little dated but should work nicely.
If you want a better GPU you would need to replace the PSU. A GTS 250 or ATI 5570 will needs a 450 W PSU with a 6 pin PCIE cable. A GTX 260 a 550 W PSU and 2 PCIE cables.
Now the MB is a ASUS M2N68-LA. But there are four versions of this board. The Narra-GL8E, Narra2-GL8E, Narra3-GL8E and I forgot the other one. If you want to upgrade the CPU (STO you are OK) you will need to open the PC to see which one. That will tell use what CPU's can be uses. The Narra3-GL8E is the one we are hoping for since it is a AM2+ socket which can support Phenom I cpus. The other three boards are only AM2.
Thanks - I'll show this to my service (since computer is still under warranty) and ask to tell me what of it can be done?
If I'm right to can play I need only better graphic card here - CPU can be enhanced later...if this is right don't have to answer!
I am back again with another couple of questions. On the Nvidia 9800GT I have seen power supply requirements from as low as 350W(Best Buy site) to 450W on another site and some say 400W. I am confused, you guys say 450W PSU needed, but there seems to be a "range" on the requirement. What gives? Are their different versions of the card? Next, this is question is for White Knight, you said that if I upgrade my processor to stay in Q2'06. I saw an Intel Pentium dual core 6300, 2.8Ghz 2MB L2 cache, and 1066Mhz system bus, but I cannot find a date. I checked the Intel site that you posted and I do not see this chip specifically named. Will it probably work or is it too current? What would be a good power supply that is either a 450W or 500W? I see a lot with motherboard type as ATX. My computer specs say uBTX, not compatible? So I had some additional questions to add. Thanks again.
I am back again with another couple of questions. On the Nvidia 9800GT I have seen power supply requirements from as low as 350W(Best Buy site) to 450W on another site and some say 400W. I am confused, you guys say 450W PSU needed, but there seems to be a "range" on the requirement. What gives? Are their different versions of the card?
Power supply wattage can vary... greatly, and for a good reason too. There is no standard for measurement across different brands. Some manufacturer's rate their power supplies' wattage at what it can put out at Peak (meaning temporarily), others rate their wattage on what it can put out at RMS (meaning constantly), and others are somewhere in-between. So a power supply that can put out 500W all the time might actually be more powerful than a power supply that can peak at 650W.
Furthermore, different manufacturers measure this wattage at different environmental temperatures. Cheaper manufacturers may use room temperature or cooler temperatures to get the highest numbers. Quality manufacturers usually measure this at warm to hot temperatures (ie: real world temperatures of what it might be like inside your PC if it had minimal cooling). PC Power & Cooling, now owned by OCZ, was known for rating their power supplies under very warm conditions and bragging about it... rightfully so to!
And if that wasn't confusing enough, wattage for power supplies is just a measurement of total amperage output among all voltages. PC power supplies typically put out +3.3V, +5V, +12V, and -12V. Video cards and CPUs are going to be the largest consumers of 12V in your PC, so this is the voltage that matters the most when you upgrade your PC with new components like replacing the motherboard or upgrading the video card.
To find the wattage of anything, you multiple amperage (amps) by voltage (volts). For a 500W power supply might put out 30 amps of 12 volts. That is 360W. So the 500W power supply would put out the remaining 140W across 3.3, 5, and -12 volts.
In short, wattage is a very inaccurate guide, especially with the diverse range of manufacturers and power supply models out there. Typically people will guess on the range needed for a specific system. You can also make use of a power supply calculator that many sites have online. But again, these are all in wattage instead of specific voltages. And they also are not going to get around the differences in power supply manufacturers.
For a 9800 GT and similar performance level CPU you'd probably be fine with a decent model 500W power supply. It never hurts to overbuy when it comes to your power supply because capacitors age over time, leading to lower power output years down the road. And by decent model, I mean from a good manufacturer, but mid-range model. For good manufacturers, check out this article.
That makes sense, but I see most are for ATX motherboards and I have a uBTX, are they compatible? I will probably go with a 500W, but I am not sure what kind I can use. I do not see to many uBTX power supply available.
That makes sense, but I see most are for ATX motherboards and I have a uBTX, are they compatible? I will probably go with a 500W, but I am not sure what kind I can use. I do not see to many uBTX power supply available.
ATX is a standard that can apply to the power supply and the motherboard, independent of each other. If your BTX motherboard has a 24-pin ATX power supply connector, you'll be fine. BTX for motherboards is an Intel standard (with a bunch of spec documentation) that applies only to layout in order to improve cooling. They still use the same CPUs based on sockets, the same expansion cards, and the same power connectors.
Hey guys, I'm pretty much a console gamer, but I really want to play star trek online, but regretfully I have no idea how to start looking for a gaming desktop and I don't know anyone who could put one together for me. Does anyone know a desktop the meets the requirements for this game and can still work as a good pc for college all on of a budget of 600-700 or so. Thanks for the help
Hey guys, I'm pretty much a console gamer, but I really want to play star trek online, but regretfully I have no idea how to start looking for a gaming desktop and I don't know anyone who could put one together for me. Does anyone know a desktop the meets the requirements for this game and can still work as a good pc for college all on of a budget of 600-700 or so. Thanks for the help
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Base on this info and the BIOS A03 date of 08/11/06 you should be able to run any Intel Core 2 duo Conroe series cpus with a Release Date of July 27, 2006 or early. Any after that may won't work.
After flashing you BIOS you will need to disable disable HT in the bios for the Core 2 CPU to work. And use the CPU FAN that comes with whatever CPU you get.
I think you have a 375 W PSU. You will need to verify this. If so you can add a ATI HD 4650 or 4670. Next month the new 5650 and 5670 will be release. These cards are better then the GeForce 6800 you have.
If you want better cards then these you would need to replace the CPU.
Or just buy a refurbish PC with a Core 2 Duo. If you have craigslist check out.
Yup, White Knight nailed it. The minimum specs are a little high for the NVIDIA card since Cryptic also listed an ATI card in there as well for comparison. And that ATI card is way below the NVIDIA card in performance.
You'll most likely be able to play STO at low settings without too much lag. With that processor, it sounds like you're running a laptop. Please correct me if you're not. The laptop 7600 is going to be little a fraction less powerful than the desktop 7600 GT card, but close.
It really comes down to how much lag you can tolerate during gameplay. The WoW client probably runs quite smoothly on your laptop, but STO is going to be more demmanding. With lower settings, I'm guessing your FPS will be in the 20s to 30s, so should be ok.
If worse comes to worse, you can always run STO in lower resolutions to speed things up until it's smooth.
AMD Phenom II X4 910 quad-core processor
8GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM
2MB L2 cache memory
1TB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm)
ATI Radeon HD 4350 graphics
My only concern is the HD 4350 card. . .I hear it's a value card, and is thus garbage for intensive gaming. But the system overall struck me as a sound foundation for the price, and I figure that the worst that could happen is that I'll need a card/power supply upgrade in the future. Is that a reasonable expectation or am I guilty of overdoing the optimism to cover up a dumb move?
Yes, the 4350 is a value card. If STO plays on it, it will be very laggy. See what PSU it has. If it has a 300 W PSU you can add a ATI HD 4650/4670 or the new 5650/5670 that comes out next month. These cards should play STO at med/high. GTS 250 or HD 4850/5770 needs a 450 W PSU with a 6 pin PCIE cable. GTX 260 525 W with 2 6 pin PCIE cables.
It's 300 W. Think I'll take the conservative route and go with one of the HD 46**/56** cards for now. Gotta save something for school next semester.
Thanks, BTW. . .conferring with you among others has been very enlightening.
Yeah my computer is a laptop. My specs all seem up to snuff according to the System Requirements Lab utility, except it said that the processor isn't in the Recommended range.
I am just wondering if this processor can be upgraded in a few years, or like most laptops are proprietary like I've heard.
This is what Dxdiag produced, the first section:
System Information
Time of this report: 12/15/2009, 23:04:09
Machine name: GARY-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255)
Language: English
System Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
System Model: Satellite A505
BIOS: InsydeH2O Version 1.70
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 1788MB used, 6397MB available
Windows Dir: C:\windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode
what do you think about my CPU? I did not have any problems with any games except CO when it was open beta. I only had about 30 fps max thats why I didn't buy it. I do belive that it is because of the CPU.
Well I might be wrong and the open beta of CO wasn't that optimized.
I would be happy for any help.
Greetings from me
Here're my specs:
System Information
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 9800GTX+ 512 MB
Time of this report: 12/16/2009, 11:56:31
Machine name: PC
Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.090805-0102)
Language: German (Regional Setting: German)
System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
System Model: MS-7551
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 8400 Triple-Core Processor (3 CPUs), ~2.1GHz
Memory: 3326MB RAM
Page File: 956MB used, 5936MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode
CPU and memory are fine.
The video card might be listed in the next section. Paste the part that has the words display device/adapter followed by NVIDIA, ATI, or Intel.
Looks fine to me. The video card is solid and will perform at high settings (or even max for many resolutions). The CPU and memory are fine too.
Thank you mate I do hope that you're right
Kind regards...
I really doubt that was the reason why. Cryptic wanted a big range of systems to test, even if they were very low in spec. It was more likely due to your active presence in the community (you only have 8 pages of posts) and other unknown factors. But that is just my opinion based on who I've seen get accepted and who is still waiting or will never get accepted.
As for your app, I really don't know if you can change it. But regardless, I wouldn't worry about it.
System Information
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 2816MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4200
Display Memory: 700.0 DDR2
Like I said I paid good for the new setup lol
CPU is good. Memory is fine. Your video, though, is a problem.
The 4200 is not marketing as a gaming GPU. In fact, it's built-in graphics hardware and not ever a separate card. Its performance is on par with an ATI 2400 or an NVIDIA 6600. It doesn't meet the minimum requirements. While you'll probably be able to install and run STO on it, performance would be bad enough that it would not be "playable" or enjoyable, even at lower settings. In other words, it would be very laggy.
I'd recommend an upgrade (if desktop) or a new system (if laptop). Why did you buy this system for STO when it's below minimum spec?
EDIT: Looks like White Knight beat me by a couple minutes.
EDIT I copy and paste.
I'm constantly on the go, so a desktop is out of the question for me right now. Due to our beloved economy, I'm also not going to be able to spend more than $700 on a new system as of right now... I came across this deal here from OfficeDepot:
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/365238/Toshiba-Satellite-A505-S6986-16-Widescreen/
* High-performance Intel Core 2 Duo processor lets you handle the demands of today's software.
* Extra-large 4GB memory lets you run your most demanding programs.
* 400GB hard drive holds thousands of songs, photos and documents.
* 16" diagonal widescreen TruBrite® LCD.
* Wireless-N for high-performance, cable-free networking. Lets you access wireless networks to share files, surf the Web and exchange email. Can provide improved range and speed within a Wireless-N network, and is also compatible with 802.11b/g networks. High-speed wired networking is supported, too.
* Plays and burns CDs and DVDs. Plus, built-in Labelflash technology lets you create and burn your own labels right onto your discs. (Labelflash media is required, sold separately.)
* High-performance graphics via nVidia GeForce GT 230M graphics processor. Features a large 1GB of dedicated DDR3 memory with up to 2814MB total available memory (including shared). Great for viewing video and other high-demand imagery.
* Face recognition software, for hassle-free logins. Securely access your computer and accounts without typing passwords.
* Memory card reader for fast, easy photo transfers. Transfer your digital photos, music and other files from 5 types of memory cards.
* Provides up to 2.25 hours of battery life on a single charge.
* Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit. The newest version of Windows makes everyday tasks simple.
What do you guys think? Anybody came across a better deal so far? Been also looking at NewEgg deals, but so far nothing for under $700. If I had the money, I'd definitely go for this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146613
Model Y550 (324156U)
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU Type Intel Core i7 720QM(1.6GHz)
Screen 15.6"
Memory Size 4GB DDR3
Hard Disk 500GB
Optical Drive DVD±R/RW
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 240M
Video Memory 1GB GDDR3
HDD 500GB
Thanks or the insight, true I have not been too active for some time now, been mostly on my fleet's site. A month and a half should fly by though :rolleyes: ......
Both systems are very good. The Toshiba usually have really good screens. The lenovo has that i7 cpu and GT 240M. It's more powerful then the Toshiba. STO should play at Very High on the GT 240. High on the GT 230. If you're choosing between these two systems I would go this the lenovo. The i7 CPU and GT 240M PGU will give you a longer system life.
Thanks - I'll show this to my service (since computer is still under warranty) and ask to tell me what of it can be done?
If I'm right to can play I need only better graphic card here - CPU can be enhanced later...if this is right don't have to answer!
You are correct. For the CPU upgrade you will need to flash the BIOS. You tech guys will understand this.
Power supply wattage can vary... greatly, and for a good reason too. There is no standard for measurement across different brands. Some manufacturer's rate their power supplies' wattage at what it can put out at Peak (meaning temporarily), others rate their wattage on what it can put out at RMS (meaning constantly), and others are somewhere in-between. So a power supply that can put out 500W all the time might actually be more powerful than a power supply that can peak at 650W.
Furthermore, different manufacturers measure this wattage at different environmental temperatures. Cheaper manufacturers may use room temperature or cooler temperatures to get the highest numbers. Quality manufacturers usually measure this at warm to hot temperatures (ie: real world temperatures of what it might be like inside your PC if it had minimal cooling). PC Power & Cooling, now owned by OCZ, was known for rating their power supplies under very warm conditions and bragging about it... rightfully so to!
And if that wasn't confusing enough, wattage for power supplies is just a measurement of total amperage output among all voltages. PC power supplies typically put out +3.3V, +5V, +12V, and -12V. Video cards and CPUs are going to be the largest consumers of 12V in your PC, so this is the voltage that matters the most when you upgrade your PC with new components like replacing the motherboard or upgrading the video card.
To find the wattage of anything, you multiple amperage (amps) by voltage (volts). For a 500W power supply might put out 30 amps of 12 volts. That is 360W. So the 500W power supply would put out the remaining 140W across 3.3, 5, and -12 volts.
In short, wattage is a very inaccurate guide, especially with the diverse range of manufacturers and power supply models out there. Typically people will guess on the range needed for a specific system. You can also make use of a power supply calculator that many sites have online. But again, these are all in wattage instead of specific voltages. And they also are not going to get around the differences in power supply manufacturers.
For a 9800 GT and similar performance level CPU you'd probably be fine with a decent model 500W power supply. It never hurts to overbuy when it comes to your power supply because capacitors age over time, leading to lower power output years down the road. And by decent model, I mean from a good manufacturer, but mid-range model. For good manufacturers, check out this article.
I hope that helps you.
ATX is a standard that can apply to the power supply and the motherboard, independent of each other. If your BTX motherboard has a 24-pin ATX power supply connector, you'll be fine. BTX for motherboards is an Intel standard (with a bunch of spec documentation) that applies only to layout in order to improve cooling. They still use the same CPUs based on sockets, the same expansion cards, and the same power connectors.