Hey, what is the difference between the 200 series and the others for NVIDIA Geforce? is the 280 simmilar to the 8800 or 9800 or something else?
Oh and I am having trouble finding one that is PCI. THey all seem to be PCI Express.
You are not going to find any of today's "gaming cards" on PCI. On APG you'll find ATI 4670's. Everything else is PCIE. GTS 250 is 10% fast then 9800 GTX.
If your system does have a PCIE slot then you most likely don't have a dual-core processor. They are require to play this game.
Im sure it's been mentioned but Champions Online is free to play till monday 11/30. Give it a try and see if your system can take it. It's the closet thing to the STO engine that you can test on that I know of.
Ok got the demo downloaded. Spent some time running around Millennium city. There didn't seem to be too many other players around so not sure how that would effect my results. At max settings running at 1280x720 I am consistently getting 50+ FPS. My specs:
2.33 GHZ C2D
8800 GT 1GB superclocked edition
2 GB DDR3 1333 MHZ ram
SATA 3 HDD
Vista Home premium
As a previous poster mentioned this may be the same engine that STO will use but is not entirely an accurate gauge as to how STO will run on your system. On a side note, does anyone that plays CO regularly get pretty bad lag at the starting area? I was getting pretty bad lag+rubber banding. This is on a 3mbps DSL connection.
You are not going to fine any of today's "gaming cards" on PCI. On APG you'll find ATI 4670's. Everything else is PCIE. GTS 250 is 10% fast then 9800 GTX.
If your system does have a PCIE slot then you most likely don't have a dual-core processor. They are require to play this game.
Silly me, It DOES have it. everything is right except the power supply is 250 not 400.
Ok got the demo downloaded. Spent some time running around Millennium city. There didn't seem to be too many other players around so not sure how that would effect my results. At max settings running at 1280x720 I am consistently getting 50+ FPS. My specs:
2.33 GHZ C2D
8800 GT 1GB superclocked edition
2 GB DDR3 1333 MHZ ram
SATA 3 HDD
Vista Home premium
As a previous poster mentioned this may be the same engine that STO will use but is not entirely an accurate gauge as to how STO will run on your system. On a side note, does anyone that plays CO regularly get pretty bad lag at the starting area? I was getting pretty bad lag+rubber banding. This is on a 3mbps DSL connection.
I had to lower my in game resolution to 1280x720 to be able to play this game. I also disable the comic outline and Nvidia Threaded Optimization. This game is now manageable, those I still get kick out every once in a while.
I also reduce AA to 4x and lower of other video setting. I may have to play with the video setting some more. It's most likely my ISP. My system should be able to run this a high easy but the ISP must be able to handle the packets.
I found a better deal at Office Depot for a Toshiba Satellite A505-S6986. After checking Futuremark.com and Notebookcheck.net and Productwiki.com for processor and graphics cards comparisons, I came to the conclusion that the Toshiba offered a better bargain (and $300 cheaper too!)
Manufacturer # PSAT3U-00X002
processor brand Intel
processor model Core 2 Duo
screen resolution 1366 x 768
operating system Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
processor speed 2.2 GHz
frontside bus speed 800 MHz
memory 4 GB, up to 8 GB total available
memory speed PC3-6400
memory type DDR3 SDRAM
video graphics nVidia GeForce GT 230M with 1GB dedicated memory, up to 2.8 GB total
I have no idea what kind of sound card, but at least the Harman/Kardon speakers are nice. Can I really add memory to the graphics card or did I read that wrong?
Thanks to White Knight and Cipher Nemo for all your help to the clueless!
Those of you worried about being able to install and run STO, please visit www.canirunit.com. With STO listed, this will test your system to determine if, indeed, you meet both the minimum requirements as well as the recommended.
(...)I came to the conclusion that the Toshiba offered a better bargain (and $300 cheaper too!)
video graphics nVidia GeForce GT 230M with 1GB dedicated memory, up to 2.8 GB total
I have no idea what kind of sound card, but at least the Harman/Kardon speakers are nice. Can I really add memory to the graphics card or did I read that wrong?
Thanks to White Knight and Cipher Nemo for all your help to the clueless!
No problem, happy to help. You didn't read that wrong, but what it really means is that the additional memory can be dedicated to it from the system memory (with DX10 and above). Unfortunately STO is being released as DX9 only, so you'll only be able to use 1GB to store graphic textures. But don't fret, 1GB is plenty.
Even though the 230M is low-end for the 200 series, it should still get the job done with STO. You might have to fiddle with graphics settings to get it smooth, but should work. Laptops are never the ideal platform for gaming, and the gaming models that can comes comes to desktop performance are far too expensive. So it's a decent compromise. Your CPU, memory, and everything else are fine.
I will be able to play STO just fine. My pc has 8800 SLi and I was wondering if cryptic is thinking of supporting SLi at all?
SLI is supported by the O/S and drivers. It's not a "does this game support it" question. It's a "does this game take advantage of it" or "does this game have any hiccups with it" question. If you're not running an extremely high resolution, chances are, you'll probably only get a 10 to 30% performance boost from games not optimized for multiple video cards in SLI or Crossfire.
Those of you worried about being able to install and run STO, please visit www.canirunit.com. With STO listed, this will test your system to determine if, indeed, you meet both the minimum requirements as well as the recommended.
Don't look at that site as a a guarantee though. It told me I can't run Rome: Total War...which I happen to play almost every day, and run it very well on max settings
Also, something is a bit off with this thing when it tells me I can run Crysis: Warhead, but NOT STO....
Don't look at that site as a a guarantee though. It told me I can't run Rome: Total War...which I happen to play almost every day, and run it very well on max settings
Also, something is a bit off with this thing when it tells me I can run Crysis: Warhead, but NOT STO....
The reason why you and I and anyone else fails is because they haven't add Windows 7 to their "OS Minimum". Champion Online will fail because of that. The hardware will pass, you will just not get the cool pass graphic. I have emailed them 4 times on this.
The reason why you and I and anyone else fails is because they haven't add Windows 7 to their "OS Minimum". Champion Online will fail because of that. The hardware will pass, you will just not get the cool pass graphic. I have emailed them 4 times on this.
Yeah.
And for Firefox, you need the latest version of Java installed. I love Firefox and Javascript, but I hate Java. They should really have this in Flash, an add-on for Firefox, or even their own executable instead of a Java app. And for IE, I'd never want to run it since ActiveX is always going to be one gaping security hole.
So if you use Firefox, Opera, or Safari, you're out of luck unless you want the bloated Java engine on your PC.
this new system is sooo going to pay off, got my preorder done, now its just a waiting game, since unfortuantly i didnt get the closed beta invite i was hoping for, oh well open betas just around the corner.
I found a better deal at Office Depot for a Toshiba Satellite A505-S6986. After checking Futuremark.com and Notebookcheck.net and Productwiki.com for processor and graphics cards comparisons, I came to the conclusion that the Toshiba offered a better bargain (and $300 cheaper too!)
Manufacturer # PSAT3U-00X002
processor brand Intel
processor model Core 2 Duo
screen resolution 1366 x 768
operating system Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
processor speed 2.2 GHz
frontside bus speed 800 MHz
memory 4 GB, up to 8 GB total available
memory speed PC3-6400
memory type DDR3 SDRAM
video graphics nVidia GeForce GT 230M with 1GB dedicated memory, up to 2.8 GB total
I have no idea what kind of sound card, but at least the Harman/Kardon speakers are nice. Can I really add memory to the graphics card or did I read that wrong?
Thanks to White Knight and Cipher Nemo for all your help to the clueless!
With Cipher Nemo on the East Coast in me on the West Coast we got pretty good coverage.
With Cipher Nemo on the East Coast in me on the West Coast we got pretty good coverage.
Indeed. I used to live close to you out there in Sunnyvale, CA. I was in Hayward, Fremont, then San Mateo. Worked all over the place from as far north as Berkeley to as far south as San Jose.
Indeed. I used to live close to you out there in Sunnyvale, CA. I was in Hayward, Fremont, then San Mateo. Worked all over the place from as far north as Berkeley to as far south as San Jose.
I'm from the bayarea. I did lived in Florida for 10 yrs. I don't know how people can live in cold climate areas. I almost took a job in Kansas City. I would freeze in PA.
I spend the first 2 yrs of my life in Hayward then moved to San Jose.
I'm from the bayarea. I did lived in Florida for 10 yrs. I don't know how people can live in cold climate areas. I almost took a job in Kansas City. I would freeze in PA.
I spend the first 2 yrs of my life in Hayward then moved to San Jose.
Ah, lol. Yeah, after living in California for 8 years, I grew to dislike the single digit and lower temperatures! Those periods in the winter are purely hibernation days, lol. But I did miss seeing the change of seasons on the west coast. So it's a give and take.
San Jose is great. You're right in the heart (or rather next to it) for Silicon Valley and all of those tech jobs. I loved living in the bay area in the 90s when the dot coms flourished. Glad I'm not there during the recession.
On subject, though, I doubt any NVIDIA 6 series cards will work with STO due to shader limitations (discovered that today).
Ok got the demo downloaded. Spent some time running around Millennium city. There didn't seem to be too many other players around so not sure how that would effect my results. At max settings running at 1280x720 I am consistently getting 50+ FPS. My specs:
2.33 GHZ C2D
8800 GT 1GB superclocked edition
2 GB DDR3 1333 MHZ ram
SATA 3 HDD
Vista Home premium
Need help deciding on my next upgrade. I'd like to be at 60+ FPS. IYO new proc (looking at 3.0ghz C2D or 2.83 C2Q), or new video card (GTX 285 or HD 5780)? ATM I see my CPU as the bottleneck but I'd like to hear any input.
I got the new laptop Friday (HP dv8t). Specs are:
18" screen at 1920 x 1080
Intel Core i7 820 Q (that's a step up from the base i7)
Nvidia GeForce GT 230m
8 GB memory
1 TB hard drive
HOWEVER, according to: http://www.yougamers.com
my laptop WILL NOT play STO! Argv! :eek:
It complains that my processor does not meet the performance requirements which I find very hard to believe and the graph shows my processor being above what is needed.
But for the graphics card it shows on the graph that mine is slightly below what is needed.
I played the free trial of Champions Online over the weekend. On recommended settings it crawled at about 10 fps, but I could tweak the settings to get almost the same appearance and get around 30 fps. On those same settings sometimes it would go into the 40s and 50s fps. This was all at 1920 x 1080. Any other resolution looked like something from the 80s.
I paid way too much for this laptop to surf the net. The only reason I bumped the specs up was because of STO. I really love everything about it. The screen is amazing. The feel of it is fantastic. My other choices would be Alienware but the 17x doesn't have the core i7 yet. I could go for the 15x (Nvidia 260m) or the HP Envy 15 (ATI 4830) but both of those obviously have smaller screens. I really do like at least 17 inch screens. So my desire is to keep this laptop. i do love it, but this latest website result is leaving me with doubts.
I don't know desktop graphic cards at all so it's hard for me to get a feel for how high end the game requirements really are.
Need help deciding on my next upgrade. I'd like to be at 60+ FPS. IYO new proc (looking at 3.0ghz C2D or 2.83 C2Q), or new video card (GTX 285 or HD 5780)? ATM I see my CPU as the bottleneck but I'd like to hear any input.
Sorry, I don't want to call you out but 60+ FPS is one of my favorite arguments.
I love going to Newegg and such and listening to the bragging about getting 90 FPS on WoW or whatever other game.
Just as an FYI, getting 60+ FPS is completely pointless and a waste of your money since your eyes can only see an equivalent maximum of 60 FPS.
In other words if you're getting, say 80 FPS, on your output, you're not even seeing 1 in 4 of the frames your monitor is displaying.
Sorry, like I said, this wasn't directed at you Sublime, just the generic idea of shooting for "60+ FPS"
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Oh and I am having trouble finding one that is PCI. THey all seem to be PCI Express.
You are not going to find any of today's "gaming cards" on PCI. On APG you'll find ATI 4670's. Everything else is PCIE. GTS 250 is 10% fast then 9800 GTX.
If your system does have a PCIE slot then you most likely don't have a dual-core processor. They are require to play this game.
Ok got the demo downloaded. Spent some time running around Millennium city. There didn't seem to be too many other players around so not sure how that would effect my results. At max settings running at 1280x720 I am consistently getting 50+ FPS. My specs:
2.33 GHZ C2D
8800 GT 1GB superclocked edition
2 GB DDR3 1333 MHZ ram
SATA 3 HDD
Vista Home premium
As a previous poster mentioned this may be the same engine that STO will use but is not entirely an accurate gauge as to how STO will run on your system. On a side note, does anyone that plays CO regularly get pretty bad lag at the starting area? I was getting pretty bad lag+rubber banding. This is on a 3mbps DSL connection.
I have found some pci graphic crads at this site:
http://computers.shop.ebay.com/Graphics-Video-Cards-/3762/i.html?Interface=PCI&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A2466&_catref=1&_dmpt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=1&_sc=1
Silly me, It DOES have it. everything is right except the power supply is 250 not 400.
But will those cards play this game? No!!!
I had to lower my in game resolution to 1280x720 to be able to play this game. I also disable the comic outline and Nvidia Threaded Optimization. This game is now manageable, those I still get kick out every once in a while.
I also reduce AA to 4x and lower of other video setting. I may have to play with the video setting some more. It's most likely my ISP. My system should be able to run this a high easy but the ISP must be able to handle the packets.
AMD Phenom X4 9650 2.3GHz
NVIDIA 9500GT 1GB
2GB RAM
All in a computer that is only £270.
AMD Phenom X4 9650 2.3GHz
NVIDIA 9500GT 1GB
2GB RAM
All in a computer that is only £270.
Also is a NVIDIA GT220 512Mb better than a NVIDIA 9500GT 1GB?
I found a better deal at Office Depot for a Toshiba Satellite A505-S6986. After checking Futuremark.com and Notebookcheck.net and Productwiki.com for processor and graphics cards comparisons, I came to the conclusion that the Toshiba offered a better bargain (and $300 cheaper too!)
Manufacturer # PSAT3U-00X002
processor brand Intel
processor model Core 2 Duo
screen resolution 1366 x 768
operating system Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
processor speed 2.2 GHz
frontside bus speed 800 MHz
memory 4 GB, up to 8 GB total available
memory speed PC3-6400
memory type DDR3 SDRAM
video graphics nVidia GeForce GT 230M with 1GB dedicated memory, up to 2.8 GB total
I have no idea what kind of sound card, but at least the Harman/Kardon speakers are nice. Can I really add memory to the graphics card or did I read that wrong?
Thanks to White Knight and Cipher Nemo for all your help to the clueless!
No problem, happy to help. You didn't read that wrong, but what it really means is that the additional memory can be dedicated to it from the system memory (with DX10 and above). Unfortunately STO is being released as DX9 only, so you'll only be able to use 1GB to store graphic textures. But don't fret, 1GB is plenty.
Even though the 230M is low-end for the 200 series, it should still get the job done with STO. You might have to fiddle with graphics settings to get it smooth, but should work. Laptops are never the ideal platform for gaming, and the gaming models that can comes comes to desktop performance are far too expensive. So it's a decent compromise. Your CPU, memory, and everything else are fine.
SLI is supported by the O/S and drivers. It's not a "does this game support it" question. It's a "does this game take advantage of it" or "does this game have any hiccups with it" question. If you're not running an extremely high resolution, chances are, you'll probably only get a 10 to 30% performance boost from games not optimized for multiple video cards in SLI or Crossfire.
So yes, your SLI setup should work with STO.
AMD Phenom X4 9650 2.3GHz
NVIDIA 9500GT 1GB
2GB RAM
Processor and memory are fine. Video card might be ok, but you'd have to turn down settings a bit.
If you want smoother gameplay when STO is released, I'd encourage you to upgrade to a GTS 250 for $135 or a 9800 GT for $109.
Also, something is a bit off with this thing when it tells me I can run Crysis: Warhead, but NOT STO....
The reason why you and I and anyone else fails is because they haven't add Windows 7 to their "OS Minimum". Champion Online will fail because of that. The hardware will pass, you will just not get the cool pass graphic. I have emailed them 4 times on this.
Yeah.
And for Firefox, you need the latest version of Java installed. I love Firefox and Javascript, but I hate Java. They should really have this in Flash, an add-on for Firefox, or even their own executable instead of a Java app. And for IE, I'd never want to run it since ActiveX is always going to be one gaping security hole.
So if you use Firefox, Opera, or Safari, you're out of luck unless you want the bloated Java engine on your PC.
With Cipher Nemo on the East Coast in me on the West Coast we got pretty good coverage.
Indeed.
I spend the first 2 yrs of my life in Hayward then moved to San Jose.
Ah, lol. Yeah, after living in California for 8 years, I grew to dislike the single digit and lower temperatures! Those periods in the winter are purely hibernation days, lol. But I did miss seeing the change of seasons on the west coast. So it's a give and take.
San Jose is great. You're right in the heart (or rather next to it) for Silicon Valley and all of those tech jobs. I loved living in the bay area in the 90s when the dot coms flourished. Glad I'm not there during the recession.
On subject, though, I doubt any NVIDIA 6 series cards will work with STO due to shader limitations (discovered that today).
Need help deciding on my next upgrade. I'd like to be at 60+ FPS. IYO new proc (looking at 3.0ghz C2D or 2.83 C2Q), or new video card (GTX 285 or HD 5780)? ATM I see my CPU as the bottleneck but I'd like to hear any input.
http://cyri.systemrequirementslab.com/srtest/intro.aspx
im not sure if someone already posted it and if they did then this is a refresher lol.
I got the new laptop Friday (HP dv8t). Specs are:
18" screen at 1920 x 1080
Intel Core i7 820 Q (that's a step up from the base i7)
Nvidia GeForce GT 230m
8 GB memory
1 TB hard drive
According to: http://cyri.systemrequirementslab.com/srtest/
my laptop not only will play STO but it exceeds the recommended specs (although the site goofs on the processor still)
HOWEVER, according to: http://www.yougamers.com
my laptop WILL NOT play STO! Argv! :eek:
It complains that my processor does not meet the performance requirements which I find very hard to believe and the graph shows my processor being above what is needed.
But for the graphics card it shows on the graph that mine is slightly below what is needed.
I played the free trial of Champions Online over the weekend. On recommended settings it crawled at about 10 fps, but I could tweak the settings to get almost the same appearance and get around 30 fps. On those same settings sometimes it would go into the 40s and 50s fps. This was all at 1920 x 1080. Any other resolution looked like something from the 80s.
I paid way too much for this laptop to surf the net. The only reason I bumped the specs up was because of STO. I really love everything about it. The screen is amazing. The feel of it is fantastic. My other choices would be Alienware but the 17x doesn't have the core i7 yet. I could go for the 15x (Nvidia 260m) or the HP Envy 15 (ATI 4830) but both of those obviously have smaller screens. I really do like at least 17 inch screens. So my desire is to keep this laptop. i do love it, but this latest website result is leaving me with doubts.
I don't know desktop graphic cards at all so it's hard for me to get a feel for how high end the game requirements really are.
Advice welcome! Many thanks!
Sorry, I don't want to call you out but 60+ FPS is one of my favorite arguments.
I love going to Newegg and such and listening to the bragging about getting 90 FPS on WoW or whatever other game.
Just as an FYI, getting 60+ FPS is completely pointless and a waste of your money since your eyes can only see an equivalent maximum of 60 FPS.
In other words if you're getting, say 80 FPS, on your output, you're not even seeing 1 in 4 of the frames your monitor is displaying.
Sorry, like I said, this wasn't directed at you Sublime, just the generic idea of shooting for "60+ FPS"
Intel® Core 2 Quad processor Q9400
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AMD Phenom II X4 820 2.8GHz, 6MB