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Babylon 5 Reboot Lands on The CW
valoreah
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Ugh, why?? This show did not need a reboot IMO.
https://deadline.com/2021/09/babylon-5-series-reboot-j-michael-straczynski-development-cw-1234845022/
https://deadline.com/2021/09/babylon-5-series-reboot-j-michael-straczynski-development-cw-1234845022/
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One of them seems to be, the new head honcho of CW. He seeks to change the old look of the company, and is aiming to make the company worthy in the eyes of the investors and the public at large.
He seeks to restore 'respect' to the brand.
And getting one of the heaviest sci fi writer of all time, looks to be a great start.
But time will tell. But let's hear directly on the choice from JJS himself, from his FB posting.
True, but it might be interesting to see what happened in a different quantum reality from the original anyway
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It is not everyday, that you get an original creator to revisit their work, with update materials.
> It seems, as the creator of said IP show, there are 'fans' over at CW... for the old series.
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I’m sorry the preposition phrase is really awkward in that sentence. Are you attributing the news to what the Babylon creator said, or are you the “creator of the said IP”?
Cause if you are, I am really interested in your work.
He is not going to recast, what he might do, is tell a different angle, somewhere else with different personas. He knows in his heart, he cannot redo any of the classic characters.
Sorry for that phrasing...oops
That is the challenge, now that he has expanded tools, knowledge and wisdom, gained over the years...the next level is to surpass.
Well... neither did Battlestar Galactica. That seemed to work out pretty well though.
Awful by today's standards. Back then... it was amazing. Don't forget it was one of the first, if not THE first, Sci-Fi show to go FULL CGI rather than using physical models like TNG.
And frankly... the designs themselves still hold up even today. If this was what CGI could do in the early 90s... imagine just how awesome the ships and stations will look with TODAYS tech.
I agree that the original actors did an amazing job. However it does sound like we will have recast characters as well, but it also sounds like he does want as many of the original actors coming back as well that he can. Honestly I kinda see it as similar to how Battlestar Galactica approached it. Same characters, but different direction. AND they did get one of the original actors to come back, even if it wasn't in the same role he had in the original.
This isn't a continuation of the original B5. It sounds like it is going to be an actual reboot (like Battlestar Galactica) using what JMS learned since B5 to make a new B5 as if he was doing it for the first time now. There was mention of John Sheridan, so we have at least one confirmed character.
There are those who point to the new BSG as "a reboot done right" (though there are also detractors), and the fact that it's JMS himself doing it gives it an extra air of legitimacy. The choice of network does leave something to be desired, however, although given the popularity of the "Arrowverse", there might be potential.
It's also been pointed out that CW is giving JMS something he didn't have before: A proper budget.
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Well... on the bright side... I think that channel also falls under "local" for me as well so I could watch it just fine. I think.
This really is debatable
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> No, it really isn't. Just like the special effects in Star Wars, which look amateurish now but blew us all away in 1977, those CGI effects in B5 were cutting edge at the time. One issue you might be encountering today is the substandard process used to try to turn the show into widescreen when it was first released on Amazon - instead of going back to the original prints, they just took existing recordings from the 4:3 CRT TV show and expanded them, exaggerating every flaw on a modern 4k HDTV. (I understand that since then there has been a rerelease that cleans up the CGI nicely.)
I did acknowledge they were 'cutting edge', but they still looked bad compared to the physical realism of models. B5s early CGI has the same issues as the early 3D computer geaphics. The textures are bland and the particle effects clunky, in addition to take one out of the real photography entirely. It is pioneering work as I said, but didn't look good, to me, even back then. It's a matter of taste.
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And I agree that B5 was a great show. I loved the character development and the humor. The crew were not "model officers" or "the best of the best of the best". They were normal people who had issues they had to deal with too on top of whatever they faced. Garabaldi's problems with alcohol, Ivanova's latent telepathy... at some point those characters had to face those.
And the humor breaking up the tension was great.
And while I agree that BSG doing well doesn't guarantee that B5 will... it also doesn't rule it out either. It shows that a reboot CAN work.
Honestly I kinda wish seaQuest would get looked at again. I enjoyed that show.
Looked lightyears better than The Last Starfighter and that movie's CG work. lol
Its a product of its time, it pioneered new technologies... lets face it. We wouldn't have what we have now if not for someone taking that chance. And it was B5 that took the chance and ran with it.
B5 wasn't as able to hide the flaws as much as seaQuest, since seaQuest added a haze to simulate being underwater. But considering the time period... that was still quite impressive.
Compared to modern CGI, maybe. But this show was from the early 1990's, at the time for anyone outside of Hollywood to be able to produce CGI like this was all but unheard of.
If the reboot does well... I can see a remaster of the original series being more likely.
The thing is - for "viewing pleasure", it doesn't matter if it was amazing compared to other CGI of its age. Its competition wasn't just CGI, it was shows working with models.
I think one could argue that the strength of B5 might actually have been the animations or "maneuverability" of its ships.
Because of how big detailed physical models needed to be, and how big good TV or movie cameras are, they always had to be installed on rigs and the like and that made it difficult to make wild and fast maneuvers, especially when they were supposed to involve multiple axis.
B5 could have its Starfuries do fancy 180° turns in multiple axis. That might have taken hours to compute on their Amiga Machines. But a fluid switch between such movements with models would not have kept a bunch of computers busy, but also a lot of artists, technicians and engineers that operate the machines, and install, assemble or disassemble the models, camera and rig, plus an editor to cut the film material to make it look well (before it can cut into the episode.)
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Crusade got the shaft big time because the network aired episodes out of order.
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