Apparently they are replacing one of the existing Disco Klingons from the Disco story missions with the "Gowron" guy, so it's apparently(?) supposed to be one of his ancestors(?).
Apparently they are replacing one of the existing Disco Klingons from the Disco story missions with the "Gowron" guy, so it's apparently(?) supposed to be one of his ancestors(?).
Well that's a common theme in the series which I kinda like.
Well Akaar the klingon guy who is suppose to be Gowron's ancestor was rather generic before this, so I hope this will give him more depth then "hypocritical klingon bad guy".
Well Akaar the klingon guy who is suppose to be Gowron's ancestor was rather generic before this, so I hope this will give him more depth then "hypocritical klingon bad guy".
Oh, no doubt. Since they are bringing in the actual actor (Robert O'Reilly) they will obviously be having him record a lot of dialogue, so that character will probably get a lot added to him.
Plus I'm pretty sure they are not just replacing him in the older missions but adding several new missions that will probably involve him as well.
Come to think of it, a way of getting him into the modern setting would be easy, he could have been one of the seemingly endless horde who got shot forward from the Starbase One attack.
Come to think of it, a way of getting him into the modern setting would be easy, he could have been one of the seemingly endless horde who got shot forward from the Starbase One attack.
To be honest, the fleet attacking SB1 was probably a significant portion of the Klingon fleet(s) that said it would be nice if we got of the mix of 23c and 25c designs in House Mo'kai fleets to represent that J'ula had to get new ships/crews that weren't part of her original fleet.
Come to think of it, a way of getting him into the modern setting would be easy, he could have been one of the seemingly endless horde who got shot forward from the Starbase One attack.
To be honest, the fleet attacking SB1 was probably a significant portion of the Klingon fleet(s) that said it would be nice if we got of the mix of 23c and 25c designs in House Mo'kai fleets to represent that J'ula had to get new ships/crews that weren't part of her original fleet.
Did you miss the 10th anniversary TFO where the PC literally attacked a shipyard loyal to J'ula, building and refitting 25th century ships for her?
Come to think of it, a way of getting him into the modern setting would be easy, he could have been one of the seemingly endless horde who got shot forward from the Starbase One attack.
To be honest, the fleet attacking SB1 was probably a significant portion of the Klingon fleet(s) that said it would be nice if we got of the mix of 23c and 25c designs in House Mo'kai fleets to represent that J'ula had to get new ships/crews that weren't part of her original fleet.
Did you miss the 10th anniversary TFO where the PC literally attacked a shipyard loyal to J'ula, building and refitting 25th century ships for her?
No I didn't miss it, but we blew most of that force into space dust, so J'ula shouldn't have that many 23c ships left (upgrade or otherwise) and would have to "make do" with ships her allies give her (possibly crews as well).
Given that this was the last #StovokorSaturday, for now at least, I wanted to makea list of everything we have seen revamped
Klingon hairs
Klingon skin tints
Klingon uniforms
Klingon NPCs(Kagran, J'mpok, Worf)
Klingon ships(B'rel, K't'inga, Vor'cha)
Klingon ship bridge and interior space
Maps including Khitomer, Rura Penthe, and Qo'nos
And as you mentioned, those are just the revamped items. They are also adding new KDF focused(not faction exclusive) missions and patrols and TFOs related to those new missions. And some exciting new VO actors for those new missions/patrols/TFOs (and probably re-voicing some existing missions too).
That said I suppose some people won't be satisfied unless Cryptic gives a massive middle finger to anything who isn't an exclusively Klingon player and make all the new content 100% faction locked (knowing some people here it wouldn't surprise me at all if they insisted that those rewamped NPCs should be visible to klingon players only with others having the old NPCs).
Regardless it looks nice and seeing as they rewamped Worf I wonder if Micheal Dorn is making new VO, I seem to remember him having a fallout with Cryptic but it seems kind of odd for them to take the effort to rewamp Worf and not have him play a major role.
> @spiritborn said: > That said I suppose some people won't be satisfied unless Cryptic gives a massive middle finger to anything who isn't an exclusively Klingon player and make all the new content 100% faction locked (knowing some people here it wouldn't surprise me at all if they insisted that those rewamped NPCs should be visible to klingon players only with others having the old NPCs). >
Um...maybe? But fortunately I haven't seen anybody saying anything like that recently 👍
> @spiritborn said:
> That said I suppose some people won't be satisfied unless Cryptic gives a massive middle finger to anything who isn't an exclusively Klingon player and make all the new content 100% faction locked (knowing some people here it wouldn't surprise me at all if they insisted that those rewamped NPCs should be visible to klingon players only with others having the old NPCs).
>
Um...maybe? But fortunately I haven't seen anybody saying anything like that recently 👍
Yeah thankfully I've not seen such either recently that is but some people do have history of attacking others for even suggesting content that FED players could play, though personally any content is fine for me.
I just want more faction specific options for missions, rather than missions locked for specific factions.
you and every non federation only player, including me, but that apparently just asking too much.
was running a newish character though the delta raising stuff and could spend the whole time being wildly unimpressed the starfleet characters it was great.
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> @spiritborn said:
> That said I suppose some people won't be satisfied unless Cryptic gives a massive middle finger to anything who isn't an exclusively Klingon player and make all the new content 100% faction locked (knowing some people here it wouldn't surprise me at all if they insisted that those rewamped NPCs should be visible to klingon players only with others having the old NPCs).
>
Um...maybe? But fortunately I haven't seen anybody saying anything like that recently 👍
Yeah thankfully I've not seen such either recently that is but some people do have history of attacking others for even suggesting content that FED players could play, though personally any content is fine for me.
My issue is Fed getting stuff that Klingon players can only get access to in lockbox such as a dedicated heavy carrier for example.
Hell I want to see the next legendary as the HMS Bounty B'rel, no reason it can be an all-faction ship like the T'liss.
My issue is Fed getting stuff that Klingon players can only get access to in lockbox such as a dedicated heavy carrier for example.
On the other hand, KDF have access to things Feds have to shell out an arm and a leg to get in return. Superior Area Denial? KDF got the sweet end of the deal. Feds have to shell out for a whole ship to get it. KDF just get the trait in a box by itself. That argument goes both ways.
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Retcon joke aside, the new model for Adet'pa is a significant improvement.
Personally I would have picture her to be older, from the way she's described in the stories it sounds like she was more closer to the klingon equilevant of 60s or 70s, not this equilevant to late 30s she looks in game atm.
Also I think the generic model she had in VIL had grey hair and older face model.
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Given that this was the last #StovokorSaturday, for now at least, I wanted to makea list of everything we have seen revamped
Klingon hairs
Klingon skin tints
Klingon uniforms
Klingon NPCs(Kagran, J'mpok, Worf)
Klingon ships(B'rel, K't'inga, Vor'cha)
Klingon ship bridge and interior space
Maps including Khitomer, Rura Penthe, and Qo'nos
And as you mentioned, those are just the revamped items. They are also adding new KDF focused(not faction exclusive) missions and patrols and TFOs related to those new missions. And some exciting new VO actors for those new missions/patrols/TFOs (and probably re-voicing some existing missions too).
Is it bad that honestly out of all those things the one that excites me the most is the Hair being fixed? Like all the other stuff is great of course, but Klingon hair has looked like PS1 graphics for like what 10 years now?
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Personally I would have picture her to be older, from the way she's described in the stories it sounds like she was more closer to the klingon equilevant of 60s or 70s, not this equilevant to late 30s she looks in game atm.
Assuming Klingons age at the same rate Humans do. Don't forget Vulcans have longer lifespans. Klingons might as well.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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Personally I would have picture her to be older, from the way she's described in the stories it sounds like she was more closer to the klingon equilevant of 60s or 70s, not this equilevant to late 30s she looks in game atm.
Assuming Klingons age at the same rate Humans do. Don't forget Vulcans have longer lifespans. Klingons might as well.
That's why I said "equilevant" so for a vulcan the equilevant for human in their 60s or 70s would probably be around 200 or so, same for Klingons (we know they live longer then humans as we had captains who were enemies of Kirk alive during DS9, even if they were old enough to start going senile.)
So my problem isn't her actual age but rather that she looks "too young" on that vid based on the previous depictions. That said I could be mistaken and she was always meant to look that young.
Well feds have a boat load of legendaries, Roms just got thiers. It's pretty logical to assume that a Klingon legendary will appear so what do we want, D7 or B'rel?
I'm on the fence, a B'rel legendary would just be a legendary T'liss clone but is extremely iconic. A D7 would mean we'd finaly get one for zen rather than lockbox which is out of reach to most casual players.
Klingons live longer as well. DS9, Arne Darvin, Kor, Kokoth, and Kang. They gray.
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Apparently they are replacing one of the existing Disco Klingons from the Disco story missions with the "Gowron" guy, so it's apparently(?) supposed to be one of his ancestors(?).
The-Grand-Nagus
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Well that's a common theme in the series which I kinda like.
Oh, no doubt. Since they are bringing in the actual actor (Robert O'Reilly) they will obviously be having him record a lot of dialogue, so that character will probably get a lot added to him.
Plus I'm pretty sure they are not just replacing him in the older missions but adding several new missions that will probably involve him as well.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Did you miss the 10th anniversary TFO where the PC literally attacked a shipyard loyal to J'ula, building and refitting 25th century ships for her?
No I didn't miss it, but we blew most of that force into space dust, so J'ula shouldn't have that many 23c ships left (upgrade or otherwise) and would have to "make do" with ships her allies give her (possibly crews as well).
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And as you mentioned, those are just the revamped items. They are also adding new KDF focused(not faction exclusive) missions and patrols and TFOs related to those new missions. And some exciting new VO actors for those new missions/patrols/TFOs (and probably re-voicing some existing missions too).
The-Grand-Nagus
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Regardless it looks nice and seeing as they rewamped Worf I wonder if Micheal Dorn is making new VO, I seem to remember him having a fallout with Cryptic but it seems kind of odd for them to take the effort to rewamp Worf and not have him play a major role.
> That said I suppose some people won't be satisfied unless Cryptic gives a massive middle finger to anything who isn't an exclusively Klingon player and make all the new content 100% faction locked (knowing some people here it wouldn't surprise me at all if they insisted that those rewamped NPCs should be visible to klingon players only with others having the old NPCs).
>
Um...maybe? But fortunately I haven't seen anybody saying anything like that recently 👍
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Yeah thankfully I've not seen such either recently that is but some people do have history of attacking others for even suggesting content that FED players could play, though personally any content is fine for me.
you and every non federation only player, including me, but that apparently just asking too much.
was running a newish character though the delta raising stuff and could spend the whole time being wildly unimpressed the starfleet characters it was great.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Oh I think she's always had hair.
Retcon joke aside, the new model for Adet'pa is a significant improvement.
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My issue is Fed getting stuff that Klingon players can only get access to in lockbox such as a dedicated heavy carrier for example.
Hell I want to see the next legendary as the HMS Bounty B'rel, no reason it can be an all-faction ship like the T'liss.
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On the other hand, KDF have access to things Feds have to shell out an arm and a leg to get in return. Superior Area Denial? KDF got the sweet end of the deal. Feds have to shell out for a whole ship to get it. KDF just get the trait in a box by itself. That argument goes both ways.
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Personally I would have picture her to be older, from the way she's described in the stories it sounds like she was more closer to the klingon equilevant of 60s or 70s, not this equilevant to late 30s she looks in game atm.
Also I think the generic model she had in VIL had grey hair and older face model.
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Is it bad that honestly out of all those things the one that excites me the most is the Hair being fixed? Like all the other stuff is great of course, but Klingon hair has looked like PS1 graphics for like what 10 years now?
Assuming Klingons age at the same rate Humans do. Don't forget Vulcans have longer lifespans. Klingons might as well.
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That's why I said "equilevant" so for a vulcan the equilevant for human in their 60s or 70s would probably be around 200 or so, same for Klingons (we know they live longer then humans as we had captains who were enemies of Kirk alive during DS9, even if they were old enough to start going senile.)
So my problem isn't her actual age but rather that she looks "too young" on that vid based on the previous depictions. That said I could be mistaken and she was always meant to look that young.
I'm on the fence, a B'rel legendary would just be a legendary T'liss clone but is extremely iconic. A D7 would mean we'd finaly get one for zen rather than lockbox which is out of reach to most casual players.
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