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hesuspino72
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so it fallow the logic that people mostly play RA (red alert queues) and that RA is after CA most played que. which means that the time spend and reward given is in a good balance.
couple of suggestion.
1. one game with one life. you die, you are out. no respond.
2. victory team get 60 marks of choice, losing team get 10. + fleet marks, + small ec reward. no dili., no equipment drop.
3. use the new system where all ships are on same lvl. accros the board.
4. cool down on ship and used equipment (30 min.), not on character. so take other ship, and get in again.
5. private matches are not rewarded.
for a casual gamer, even tho award on paper is good, the waiting que is long, and if not victorious (and event if victorious) reward for lost time is low compared to other que's you could do.
and even tho what i am suggestion, that reward is even smaller then RA, the choice of marks alone, and repetitive way that you can do it, as there is no cool down i think it would make it popular, especial on new players.
this to work RA should be reworked to give only one or preset choice of marks, to fill the roll for the people that just don't want to pvp.
there is enough RA out there that you could probably use to make it work so it covers all reputation.
i know that anti-pvp community in sto is strong, and i do understand that pvp in this game is not balance. but we are missing a large part of the game that is popular in any other game then this one. and in no way, shape or form, this can hurt a casual player to exist if he don't want to play it. he can simple chose to play RA and focus on couple of RA that would give him mark for said reputation. but now it would be a choice of focusing on certain RA ques, or just play pvp and get marks he/she wants.
feel free to add, constructively.
i am not a big pvp-er, but i would like an option to play it and not wait an 1h for que to start. and it would be nice if the que would reward me with some thing that i actually need.
couple of suggestion.
1. one game with one life. you die, you are out. no respond.
2. victory team get 60 marks of choice, losing team get 10. + fleet marks, + small ec reward. no dili., no equipment drop.
3. use the new system where all ships are on same lvl. accros the board.
4. cool down on ship and used equipment (30 min.), not on character. so take other ship, and get in again.
5. private matches are not rewarded.
for a casual gamer, even tho award on paper is good, the waiting que is long, and if not victorious (and event if victorious) reward for lost time is low compared to other que's you could do.
and even tho what i am suggestion, that reward is even smaller then RA, the choice of marks alone, and repetitive way that you can do it, as there is no cool down i think it would make it popular, especial on new players.
this to work RA should be reworked to give only one or preset choice of marks, to fill the roll for the people that just don't want to pvp.
there is enough RA out there that you could probably use to make it work so it covers all reputation.
i know that anti-pvp community in sto is strong, and i do understand that pvp in this game is not balance. but we are missing a large part of the game that is popular in any other game then this one. and in no way, shape or form, this can hurt a casual player to exist if he don't want to play it. he can simple chose to play RA and focus on couple of RA that would give him mark for said reputation. but now it would be a choice of focusing on certain RA ques, or just play pvp and get marks he/she wants.
feel free to add, constructively.
i am not a big pvp-er, but i would like an option to play it and not wait an 1h for que to start. and it would be nice if the que would reward me with some thing that i actually need.
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But those got added in BECAUSE NO ONE WAS IN THOSE QUEUES to start with....and the new players could not collect marks to advance their Rep.
It is "something" else, that was making players not use the queues. The mark boxes in the Red Alerts was their fix for it.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
The reason PvP is disliked by a lot of players is: it has become a very expensive game of the "Haves" vs. the "Have Nots". But there are plenty of players out there who want to PvP in this game...and for it to become more balanced. But the way it stands now...not so much. And it may not be fixable right now.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
Doesnt bother me one bit about PvP because I don't do it, ever. Not interested in fighting other players, never have been, never will be. I doubt they do any more work on PvP.
I could also be wrong, but they haven't worked on PvP since the Competitive Rep.
This is pretty much true. PvP is the domain of people who have specialized in builds designed to vape you in a single pass. Usually involving spending a crapton of ECs, Dilithium, and even Zen and Lobi to get that level of power. Min/Maxing to the point the casual PvPer can't even survive a single attack in a cruiser. PvP as it stands now is literally full of alpha strike oneshots. You get spotted, you die. No ifs, ands, or buts. You. DIE.
That is not fun. Especially for the player on the recieving end. It doesn't matter if the players are the same level. The builds and gear are what make vape ships so powerful. Combine that with player skill... EVERYTHING dies in a single pass, with little to no warning, let alone reaction time. Now some people can TRY to argue that all you need to survive an alpha striker is Tac Team... but that is not true because the sheer amount of spike damage can slice right through shields, hit hull, and kill you.
Now if there was a way to have people of similar skill levels and builds match up... then maybe it would be worth it. But right now, with the free for all we have... its not even worth the effort to try. There is just too much of a disparity in power to balance anything in PvP.
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http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
(Flaming/Trolling comments moderated out. - BMR)
let's file that with the thousands (Probably literally) of suggestions on PvP that the devs have dedicatedly ignored since 2012.[/quote]
Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Before that !!! man dont get me started !!! i didnt take my meds yet today!!!....... AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! to late !!!! WHY !!?? WHY @borticuscryptic why!!!!!????? (runs off chasing a chicken)
Lines like that don't make Ker'rat attractive. Joking or not, that's actually highlighting rather deplorable and unsportsmanlike conduct. Not only that... the team on the recieving end is getting spawn camped, and being destroyed before they can even blink. Would you consider that fun if you were on the recieving end?
I've been on that one time in a Halo: CE server, combined with insults being thrown at my team for our lack of skill... while they bombarded our base with tanks. So I have a pretty good reason to call BS.
The biggest issue now, in my opinion, is that rep passives stack to rediculous levels, and newer guys will never be able to catch up to the guys who have been playing since beta. Not all Tier 6 captains are equal.
I would create tiered PvP. You show up in a Tier 2 ship, and the game uses the level matching system (currently obsolete because it hasn't been updated to account for power creep) to suspend any abilities that a Tier 2 captain wouldn't have.
It's about equal opportunity in PvP. If there are guys who have so many passives a Tier 2 guy could never hit them, the Tier 2 guy will quit and never play PvP. Which is what has happened.
Of course, there should be an unlimited level. The big dogs should be able to duke it out for bragging rights and occasional prizes. But the lowbies need a safe space where they can shine without a guy with every trait on the list jumping on him for an easy kill.
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Until... useful powers are nerfed into uselessness because PvPers whine about them being OP in PvP.
Its very serious business.
PvP in this game is LONG dead and long may it remain so.
Star Trek Battles member. Want to roll with a good group of people regardless of fleets and not have to worry about DPS while doing STFs? Come join the channel and join in the fun!
http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1