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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »
    where2r1 wrote: »
    This freebie Discovery Fed uniform looks good. I am impressed. Though, hoping the Klingon stuff from Discovery shows up soon. You know...stuff I can USE.
    I heard they added a new boot option for Klingons with the Discovery uniform. It probably looks better on Orions than Klingons though.

    How would you know what looks good on my Klingons? LOL!

    I am talking about stuff like that Torchbearer armor. He wasn't on the screen long.
    I have to watch the show over and see if I can freeze frame it.

    The Klingon Ceremonial armor is a bit too ornamental....the actors could barely walk in them.
    My characters won't be able to melee in that. LOL!

    AND, definitely, more dramatic ridge shapes would be good.

    I want all my Klingons to look unique.

    All I can say about Voq the Trochbearer's enviormental suit is Walt Disney wants there Capt. Nemo diving suit back. I am not really surprised it looks that way given Capt. Steampunk Glen Hetrick is on the design staff. Utterly stupid costumes for the "Klingons". Discovery = Epic fail
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    anodynes wrote: »
    I think you mean as you asserted on the last page.

    No, I meant concluded. We decided any conclusions that lead to the TOS situation being the correct version were too fanciful and too much of a stretch to be true.
    anodynes wrote: »
    You gave no evidence for bodies or computer cores being recovered, you just stated that they must have been, based on nothing. That's not how conclusions work, they are based on evidence.

    No, I gave evidence on how the war worked in ENT as well as lack of Romulan self destructs, direct Andorian and Vulcan observation, closer relations between Humans and the former than in TOS and so on. That's how conclusions are drawn.
    anodynes wrote: »
    The only one to actually see a Romulan and know that it was a Romulan on ENT was V'las, who might have been a Romulan himself.

    Other Vulcans are aware of what Romulans look like, Spock states it in Balance of Terror.
    anodynes wrote: »
    One Aenar experienced Romulans, however they do such things, and could possibly have given the impression of them to his sister somehow, but even if he did, she would have to also have the impression of Vulcans to know that they were similar. The one that was kidnapped by them was presumed lost on a hunt, so no other Aenar had any idea of Romulans to that point.

    Other drone ships were mentioned along with other missing Anar. And yes, he would have told his sister who tells Shran. The coincidence that an Anar would't come across a Vulcan in anyway is a bit staggering.
    anodynes wrote: »
    ENT played a little fast and loose with continuity, but they went to great trouble to minimize contact with Romulans to a blind isolationist who died without returning home to tell his tale and a traitor, or possible Romulan spy, who would never reveal that he knew anything about them.

    Not really, if it was it wouldn't have left all the ways open. So wide in fact it is now silly to imagine the magnitude of the comedy of errors necessary needed to not know who the Romulans were. Right up to their plans for series 5 and T'Pol discovering her father was a Romulan agent. I guess she would have kept that from Archer and the war right?
    anodynes wrote: »
    Oh, and the TOS claim was not that the war was fought over radio, but that the treaty was sent over subspace radio. It's clunky, but probably implies that it was entirely negotiated over subspace radio.

    I did clarify that above.​​
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    All I can say about Voq the Trochbearer's enviormental suit is Walt Disney wants there Capt. Nemo diving suit back. I am not really surprised it looks that way given Capt. Steampunk Glen Hetrick is on the design staff. Utterly stupid costumes for the "Klingons". Discovery = Epic fail
    Oh that Torchbearer..is on and off the screen so darn fast....I still can't get the details. I am gonna have to look else where to see what you are talking about.

    As for Discovery = Epic Fail......
    I haven't seen enough of the story yet to tell anything!!
    Boy, is that story SLOW GOING...40 mins at a time...

    I am almost tempted to cancel and re-sub to CBS All Access after all 15 shows are available for streaming so I can binge watch it at the end of the season.


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  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,425 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »
    Oh that Torchbearer..is on and off the screen so darn fast....I still can't get the details. I am gonna have to look else where to see what you are talking about.

    As for Discovery = Epic Fail......
    I haven't seen enough of the story yet to tell anything!!
    Boy, is that story SLOW GOING...40 mins at a time...

    I am almost tempted to cancel and re-sub to CBS All Access after all 15 shows are available for streaming so I can binge watch it at the end of the season.

    The Trekyards full spoiler review of episode one has a couple of good still shots of the torchbearer.

    The biggest problem with the two hour pilot is that... you still have not met most of the crew or even the ship. You're left feeling "Um, what is this about, again? Discovery? What is that?". It's one of the best made pilots for a Trek show that does not really show much of the actual show (gotta sign up for All Access for that!).
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Prequel. Set-up to the Discovery 'pilot'. Instead of doing the inevitable flashback during the Season on how we got here they did it up front. More in keeping with maintaining the continuity of a serialized drama.
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  • shadowfirefly00shadowfirefly00 Member Posts: 1,026 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Don't even joke about that man!

    -image redacted-

    It hurt grinding for the Enterprise MACO!
    To this day, I remain convinced that whoever thought that was a reasonable price tag for a single-character aesthetic unlock is/was out of their minds. And/or out of touch with the player base.
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    Didn't you know? As soon as you log out they start playing.​​
    As amusing as that mental image is, there is at least one RPG with plays with the idea of logged-out characters actually doing stuff; the example which comes to mind is Age of Wushu's 'offline system'. Imagine, if you will, logging out in orbit around New Romulus or ESD... while you're logged out, each instance of that space has a chance of your ship being present as an NPC.
  • themadprofessor#9835 themadprofessor Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    Any chance of the phaser rifle and pistol from Discovery to finish off the Discovery look?

    Probably with the inevitable Discovery Lockbox...
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    1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
    2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
    3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
    4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
    5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
    6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
    7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
    8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,715 Community Moderator
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Don't even joke about that man!

    -image redacted-

    It hurt grinding for the Enterprise MACO!
    To this day, I remain convinced that whoever thought that was a reasonable price tag for a single-character aesthetic unlock is/was out of their minds. And/or out of touch with the player base.

    Agreed. While it was probably meant to help balance the DL Exchange... it failed. Miserably.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • firereaper#8495 firereaper Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    Why would they do that for Xbox, they won't even put The wrath of khan star fleet uniform on there.
  • shadowfirefly00shadowfirefly00 Member Posts: 1,026 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Agreed. While it was probably meant to help balance the DL Exchange... it failed. Miserably.
    Crafting and upgrades are doing a better job of it. Putting that (and other outfits) in the Z-store would have - more folks would be willing to set aside 550Z worth of dil (which is a lot less than 2 million). So would having T6 upgrade tokens folks can use on their T5(U) ships that recently got T6 versions (i.e. the Elachi ships). Or having the art team come up with some spiffy vanity shields to put in the dil store. Or... you get the idea.
  • tilartatilarta Member Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Don't even joke about that man!

    It hurt grinding for the Enterprise MACO!
    To this day, I remain convinced that whoever thought that was a reasonable price tag for a single-character aesthetic unlock is/was out of their minds. And/or out of touch with the player base.

    I wanted the MACO costume for every character that could have it, but whoever decided that was a price was indeed out of touch with reality.
    They're probably living on the Mir space station admiring all the stars instead of checking their work. :p
    With the amount of Dilithium we have to spend on every aspect of the game, did they really think we have that much spare to buy costumes?
    where2r1 wrote: »
    As for Discovery = Epic Fail......
    I haven't seen enough of the story yet to tell anything!!
    Boy, is that story SLOW GOING...40 mins at a time...

    I think we're witnessing the end of quality sci-fi as we know it.
    Dark Matter was just cancelled for an inane reason and that caused me to lose interest in all current or future sci-fi shows.
    Because I'm getting frustrated with stories that never end because of cliffhangers.
    DM was just starting the major story arc they'd been building up to for three years! :'(:s

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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    redvenge wrote: »
    The Trekyards full spoiler review of episode one has a couple of good still shots of the torchbearer.

    I watched the Trekyards show. Goodness they got into details of the Episode, didn't they? I was hoping they would get more into the ships....but they never did. Oh well.

    They had a nice shot of the Torchbearer armor...but still not good enough because there was artifacts glaring all over it. Is that the "lens flare" everyone complains about?

    But found these web pages:
    http://www.treknews.net/2017/07/20/klingon-torchbearer-suit-sdcc/
    https://trekmovie.com/2017/07/19/sdcc17-klingon-torchbearer-revealed-gentle-giant-announces-star-trek-discovery-collectibles/

    There is sooooo much detail on the armor...it is firmly planted in the realm of : CEREMONIAL.

    This is a special suit for the guy who is standing on that Beacon of Kahless, lighting it. I would assume...you need to filter out all the glare along with the noise, hence the full coverage over the eyes.

    Not for battling at all. I don't need this...I would be fighting BLIND.
    No wonder the Torchbearer was a one shot. He couldn't see anything coming!!! LOL!
    Plus that bat'leth looks decorative...not sturdy or balanced at all.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,715 Community Moderator
    where2r1 wrote: »
    There is sooooo much detail on the armor...it is firmly planted in the realm of : CEREMONIAL.

    This is a special suit for the guy who is standing on that Beacon of Kahless, lighting it. I would assume...you need to filter out all the glare along with the noise, hence the full coverage over the eyes.

    Not for battling at all. I don't need this...I would be fighting BLIND.
    No wonder the Torchbearer was a one shot. He couldn't see anything coming!!! LOL!
    Plus that bat'leth looks decorative...not sturdy or balanced at all.

    True, however there are examples of full helms like that that look like you should not be able to see AT ALL, notably in XCom 2 with ADVENT soldiers.
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    Theoretically to offset the lack of a clear faceplate for vision they'd have some kind of HUD to allow the individual wearing it to actually see.

    Without knowing exactly what is in that helmet, we can only speculate as to how they can see.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    patrickngo wrote: »
    It's not supposed to be balanced (the bladed thingy). These are Discovery Klingons-they're not meant to be capable of athletic movement, they just stand there and scowl a lot, then waddle-run around a bit while softly rasping lisping threats and being Trump standins.

    The pragmatic, mobile, athletic Klingons clearly outcompeted them in the next ten years and left them behind and extinct on the ash-heap of history.

    I am not very happy about the Klingon makeup nor the costumes...I was expecting much better.
    It really impeded the actors. They could not speak clearly, nor move.

    One can not really tell from quick clips nor stills...it wasn't until the program aired...I could tell it was pretty bad.
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  • shadowfirefly00shadowfirefly00 Member Posts: 1,026 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    True, however there are examples of full helms like that that look like you should not be able to see AT ALL, notably in XCom 2 with ADVENT soldiers.

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    Theoretically to offset the lack of a clear faceplate for vision they'd have some kind of HUD to allow the individual wearing it to actually see.

    Without knowing exactly what is in that helmet, we can only speculate as to how they can see.
    That would be the most logical conclusion; I would assume that the visor can be flipped up/removed in the event of a system fault. A look at XCOM 2's art book might be in order to see if the artists considered this.

    Interestingly, a few of the superplanes from the Ace Combat series use something similar in the form of the COFFIN system. What contingency mechanisms exist in that universe for system failures is to my knowledge not explained.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,715 Community Moderator
    That would be the most logical conclusion; I would assume that the visor can be flipped up/removed in the event of a system fault. A look at XCOM 2's art book might be in order to see if the artists considered this.

    Interestingly, a few of the superplanes from the Ace Combat series use something similar in the form of the COFFIN system. What contingency mechanisms exist in that universe for system failures is to my knowledge not explained.

    Also... a technically more real world example I can think of is from the movie Firebirds, where one of the training exercises an Apache pilot had to go through involved a total blackout of the cockpit and relying on instruments and a helmet eyepiece linked to cameras on the helicopter's nose. Nicholas Cage's character failed this test because of eye dominance (his left eye was the dominant one and the eye piece he needed to rely on was over the right) and had to go through some rather creative training to overcome this.

    Creative... as in his friends wrapped his head in underwear and stuck a pariscope on the eye he needed to use and had him drive around in a jeep.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    edited October 2017
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    So, when can we expect them to have the good sense to add the tactical kit to this uniform package? It would consist of the utility belt and at least one new top (they might well have variants just like the base uniform).

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    See?! They DO have belts. I knew it. :)

    Now I want that belt. :smiley:
    Any chance of the phaser rifle and pistol from Discovery to finish off the Discovery look?

    Perhaps in the near future, we will see a one-off mission, like Terminal Expanse, where we visit a past time or an Alt U with a chance to pick up a few look-a-like weapons or other gear.
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  • nirruk#8003 nirruk Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    (console) Just wondering when the consoles will be getting the Discovery Uniforms.
  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    Discovery boots are now my favorite... if only I could use them outside of the Tight Pants category (like my second favorite pair... the Section 31 boots)...
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    tousseau wrote: »
    Discovery boots are now my favorite... if only I could use them outside of the Tight Pants category (like my second favorite pair... the Section 31 boots)...

    Agreed, I'd love to be able to use them with my ENT era MACO uniform.
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  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    edited October 2017
    So, when can we expect them to have the good sense to add the tactical kit to this uniform package? It would consist of the utility belt and at least one new top (they might well have variants just like the base uniform).

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    Well... the "Terran Utility 2" belt does fill that niche fairly well..

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,715 Community Moderator
    I wish all the parts were usable with other uniforms. The badges might look good on other uniforms, and I do agree the boots would look awesome with more than just tight pants.
    I actually have an alt that is wearing that as her primary.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    Incidentally, using the tartigrade, Lorca was able to display a live image of the surface of Romulus. 10 years prior to Balance of Terror.

    Shall we stretch credulity to the maximum and sugest all Romulans were off world for a summer holiday when the tartigrade visited?
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,014 Arc User
    edited October 2017
    artan42 wrote: »
    Incidentally, using the tartigrade, Lorca was able to display a live image of the surface of Romulus. 10 years prior to Balance of Terror.

    Shall we stretch credulity to the maximum and sugest all Romulans were off world for a summer holiday when the tartigrade visited?

    I think it is obviously that by "preserving canon" the creators meant that we do stuff that is completely out of any canon but brush it over by making Discovery "super secret" so that nothing they do will ever be known by anybody outside of the ship pig-2.gif So who knows but I still suspect Discovery is a "non-prequel-prequel" which I once again don't know why they even bother.​​
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    Incidentally, using the tartigrade, Lorca was able to display a live image of the surface of Romulus. 10 years prior to Balance of Terror.

    Shall we stretch credulity to the maximum and sugest all Romulans were off world for a summer holiday when the tartigrade visited?

    I think it is obviously that by "preserving canon" the creators meant that we do stuff that is completely out of any canon but brush it over by making Discovery "super secret" so that nothing they do will ever be known by anybody outside of the ship pig-2.gif So who knows but I still suspect Discovery is a "non-prequel-prequel" which I once again don't know why they even bother.​​

    I agree, so much better if they just went back to the future (post Voyager) and proceeded from there. Kind of the way STO does. Lots of room for divergence and alternate timelines, as we've seen. :)
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Or just continued on post Enterprise or post TUC. Plenty of room there. Here we are on grounds where Chris Pike commands and too prone to get all discombobulated.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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