... they had a AOE gun that set the ground on fire over their spawn in area.
An AoE gun that set the ground on fire? I know of no weapon that does that. I know of a couple kit modules that do something like that though, depending on what career the Captain in question was.
A Science Captain would have used Exothermic Induction Field, which basically does what you describe. Light the ground on fire. Combine that with a kit module from the Temporal Spec and a DOff from Risa... devastating combo.
A Tactical Captain would have access to the Plasma Grenade, which lobs a grenade that detonates and leaves behind a Plasma Fire hazard, that can catch things on fire.
Also... Romulan Engineers have an added effect to their Orbital Strike, which leaves behind a Plasma Fire hazard, a lot like the Tac Plasma Grenade, due to the fact the Romulan's native damage type is Plasma.
I have played off and on since beta. I hated when players would zone in and stand by the entrance and not move. I totally agree with the kick system. I agree with giving them no exp for the mission. Even in my case, do i think i should get any credit :nope. I only finished already dying mobs, the other person gear was just better. The problem comes in when you cant get into any other mission because of a penalty for not having their level gear but you can do it if they are not there, that i think they should change.
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I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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The Undine Wrist weapon from the Lobi store does something similar to what he's describing.
It looked like this weapon and also had green fire (they may have grenaded as well). As soon as they were spawning in the player was on them.
It's possible that it was a combination of things then. Tactical officers, if he was one, can ridiculously buff their own damage. With the right kit modules, even a relatively simple weapon can easily kill an entire group of enemies with one or two shots.
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It's possible that it was a combination of things then. Tactical officers, if he was one, can ridiculously buff their own damage. With the right kit modules, even a relatively simple weapon can easily kill an entire group of enemies with one or two shots.
Very true. I got a friend who managed to get a Sniper shot up to about 1k damage with the right buffs, although not recently. Based on the information we're getting now, I'm confident in saying it was a Tactical with buffs and a Plasma Grenade.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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Regardless on HOW it was done, Its better to have the system in to prevent AFKers
I'm sorry you got hit with an AFK penalty,
It shouldn't happen very often. I've had matches where I CTD at the start and rejoin with the team at the 3rd set.
And I still didn't get the AFK penalty. Chances are, you got hit with a false positive (as mentioned above)
...unless of course you were standing in awe at that player's greatness and you forgot to shoot at the boss
Could theoretically also be a plasma wide beam rifle. I can easily hit 1.7k+ crit on 5 enemies on the wide beam setting. That's without flanking. The highest I have ever hit is way higher.
When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
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Could theoretically also be a plasma wide beam rifle. I can easily hit 1.7k+ crit on 5 enemies on the wide beam setting. That's without flanking. The highest I have ever hit is way higher.
But that doesn't explain lighting the ground on fire. None of the plasma weapons have a proc that lights the ground on fire. A Plasma Grenade can do that.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,671Community Moderator
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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I get hit with an AFK Penalty once in awhile. It happens. Play this game long enough and one will wind up in a PUG with someone who does ungodly amounts of damage. Some people are just going to be more dialed in than I am. Or just plain luckier. Sometimes both at the same time. I have other chars to play and I am not trying to get all the gear in the game in five seconds or less. So I don't worry about it.
Coming here and throwing a public hissy fit while naming names is very bad form. Doing such is against the ToS for these forums. If you've been around STO as long as you claim, you would know this already and no one should have to point it out to you. But we have no real proof of how long you've played STO. Except what you've written. No way to verfy whether or not your claim is accurate and truthful. Based upon the attitude and phrasing of your post, I'm guessing it is not. Tell an outrageous tall tale loudly enough and often enough and people will begin to think it might be true. Propagandists use the same technique. It is called the Big Lie for a reason.
Lots of other folks who are smarter than I am about STO have posted ways what you described could occur. Me? I'm just somebody with a slight ability to see people as they are rather than what they fake to the rest of the world.
A six year old boy and his starship. Living the dream.
alex routinely gets above that with a TR-116, and he's no tac - any decent tac player would be getting WAY above that off a sniper
Exactly.
My Feddybear Eng does 1K+ with the TR-116 too, lol. Up to 4K with a Boolean (Seen a Tac do 10K with that, oof!). If level 60 Tac and not hitting 1K, back to the Advanced queues with ya! ;-)
These whiney "Everyone better than me is OP!" threads always make me laugh.
Cold Fusion Flash
Exothermic Induction Field
Then any AOE gun can cut down enemies very fast.
Could they set a macro to do that in one key press then it would look like a rifle shot setting the floor on fire and wiping everything.
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Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
I see no name. The only people allowed to name and shame are the Moderators/Community Mangers when they Ban a person and change their Avatar.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
1. Your thread will be locked for naming the player.
2. It's an elite queue, these are designed for the most well geared players in the game. If your damage output isn't high enough to qualify for rewards, then you need to be doing the Advanced version instead of Elite.
Don't go into the highest difficulty queues and then complain that others are 'too good.'
^^ This. Went into a ground Elite once, with a few friends, and got my *ss handed to me, as expected. Never blamed anyone for being overpowered, of course: I know I simply suck at ground. Others don't. Simple as that.
The fundamental law of PvP balance is "If you think it's overpowered, you should be doing it."
In games that actually have PvP developers, any particular option getting adopted by that vast majority of the players is a red flag. Forum sniveling/butt hurt comes in around 2000th place on the list of metrics that might cause a change in the game...
1. Your thread will be locked for naming the player.
2. It's an elite queue, these are designed for the most well geared players in the game. If your damage output isn't high enough to qualify for rewards, then you need to be doing the Advanced version instead of Elite.
Don't go into the highest difficulty queues and then complain that others are 'too good.'
I say red, that means you have to say blue! I say left that means you have to say right!
Ive done this mission countless times on this level. This persons gear was higher than the group and then being tactical added to their damage. I know people sponge exp go in a mission and just sit and not move, that did not happen in this case. if the damage is not there then give them no exp for the mission not ban them for 2 hours because their gear was better.
"Don't go into the highest difficulty queues and then complain that others are 'too good."
you looking for an argument , I'm not going to debate with your one sided response. I've done the mission before and was not afk!
Tough! Someone took the time and effort to get the best gear and skill set and you have the balls to say they are OPed? BFD so his gear was higher then the group that not their fault period! So get over it and stop acting like a spoiled child. You sound like one of this whaa whaa I want everything free and maxed out cause I am a special snowflake. To freaking bad you were not top dog and didnt even do the bare minimum to get any points. PLUS you stated you were not even in the starting area so EPIC FAIL ON YOUR PART RIGHT THERE! If you can't even be in the start area when a mission starts speaks volumes how bad you are at the game.
In Brotherhood of the Sword it's relatively easy to kill entire groups with the right gear for example.
This was the mission. They were all packed closely together they had a gun that did AOE damage and i had miy MACO set gun so I could not compete with that.
MACO and you are complaining someone out damaged you? Really guy that set is nowhere near good enough for Elite these days. Bet you never upgraded it to Epic either. Gear up and stop whining.
MACO and you are complaining someone out damaged you? Really guy that set is nowhere near good enough for Elite these days. Bet you never upgraded it to Epic either. Gear up and stop whining.
Not really true. I have completed BotSE many times with captains that only have very rare non-rep / non-fleet Mk XII gear. I have not even bothered to allocate any Specialization Points. MIE on the other hand is pretty tough so Mk XIV gear is recommended, but Epic quality is not required.
There are THREE...I repeat THREE objective locations. There is NO AOE THAT WILL HIT ALL THREE LOCATIONS AT THE SAME TIME. So it in in fact IMPOSSIBLE for ONE player to AOE EVERYTHING to death before you can do some damage. You followed the OP player in hopes of leeching off his efforts and got smacked with an AFK ban for your efforts. Good...it's working as intended. If you see somebody who can solo an objective local alone, you should have hit up one of the others instead os just tagging along for minimal effort. You could get really unlucky and have three very powerful players who can all solo each location in seconds however...and in that case...yeah I would feel bad for you. But for right now...nope...it's all you.
Yea, after TRYING to get the AFK penalty in a pug I was just in, I'm going to have to agree with coldnapalm.
I took a couple shots at each Defiler only and pretty much ran to activate the objectives. I also took a few shots at the Harbinger of Lefty
and I still didn't get the AFK penalty.
So either the OP got a false tag for AFKing, or he was doing NOTHING.
In either case, he has NO reason to complain about someone out damaging him
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I was in an elete ground missions that ive done before. This player bXXX enter the mission and was killing entire groups of enemies at a time. the result was not getting any exp and a 2 hour ban for afk. That is very unfair.
Sorry to hear so. While I would agree with you that STO has power creep issues in space combat (0-514k DPS) on ground this is not that much of a thing yet (0-4k DPS).
If you have trouble contributing I suggest looking up current ground build recommendations from the STO-League. The players who made them really know their way on ground. While a ship build can get expensive at times ground is your friend. Some of the free stuff from story missions is even used currently in high end builds. I suppose it would only take you a few days to be in your saddle build wise.
Much more important than your build on ground is a constant use of all the abilities you have. Fife years ago the game got rapidly easy for me when I discovered the shooter mode and I hot keyed all my powers to board. Then it was just practice, practice and practice, exactly as it should be. You can do this too.
Now back on your feet soldier! We need you to do your part in elite grounds.
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Cold Fusion Flash
Sabatoge
or even the High Frequency Electromagnetic Pulse from the Delta Alliance Elite Ground set
All of these power wreck things on BroHo of Da Sow
I have played off and on since beta. I hated when players would zone in and stand by the entrance and not move. I totally agree with the kick system. I agree with giving them no exp for the mission. Even in my case, do i think i should get any credit :nope. I only finished already dying mobs, the other person gear was just better. The problem comes in when you cant get into any other mission because of a penalty for not having their level gear but you can do it if they are not there, that i think they should change.
Sounds like a Plasma Grenade kit module to me.
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It's possible that it was a combination of things then. Tactical officers, if he was one, can ridiculously buff their own damage. With the right kit modules, even a relatively simple weapon can easily kill an entire group of enemies with one or two shots.
Very true. I got a friend who managed to get a Sniper shot up to about 1k damage with the right buffs, although not recently. Based on the information we're getting now, I'm confident in saying it was a Tactical with buffs and a Plasma Grenade.
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I'm sorry you got hit with an AFK penalty,
It shouldn't happen very often. I've had matches where I CTD at the start and rejoin with the team at the 3rd set.
And I still didn't get the AFK penalty. Chances are, you got hit with a false positive (as mentioned above)
...unless of course you were standing in awe at that player's greatness and you forgot to shoot at the boss
alex routinely gets above that with a TR-116, and he's no tac - any decent tac player would be getting WAY above that off a sniper
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
But that doesn't explain lighting the ground on fire. None of the plasma weapons have a proc that lights the ground on fire. A Plasma Grenade can do that.
I don't remember if my friend's KDF was a Tac or not. I just know he made a kit that was able to get him up that high at least with a sniper shot.
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#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
One does yea, but the OP described Green FIRE. So... Plasma Grenade. Gotta be.
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Coming here and throwing a public hissy fit while naming names is very bad form. Doing such is against the ToS for these forums. If you've been around STO as long as you claim, you would know this already and no one should have to point it out to you. But we have no real proof of how long you've played STO. Except what you've written. No way to verfy whether or not your claim is accurate and truthful. Based upon the attitude and phrasing of your post, I'm guessing it is not. Tell an outrageous tall tale loudly enough and often enough and people will begin to think it might be true. Propagandists use the same technique. It is called the Big Lie for a reason.
Lots of other folks who are smarter than I am about STO have posted ways what you described could occur. Me? I'm just somebody with a slight ability to see people as they are rather than what they fake to the rest of the world.
Exactly.
My Feddybear Eng does 1K+ with the TR-116 too, lol. Up to 4K with a Boolean (Seen a Tac do 10K with that, oof!). If level 60 Tac and not hitting 1K, back to the Advanced queues with ya! ;-)
These whiney "Everyone better than me is OP!" threads always make me laugh.
Exothermic Induction Field
Then any AOE gun can cut down enemies very fast.
Could they set a macro to do that in one key press then it would look like a rifle shot setting the floor on fire and wiping everything.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
^^ This. Went into a ground Elite once, with a few friends, and got my *ss handed to me, as expected. Never blamed anyone for being overpowered, of course: I know I simply suck at ground. Others don't. Simple as that.
In games that actually have PvP developers, any particular option getting adopted by that vast majority of the players is a red flag. Forum sniveling/butt hurt comes in around 2000th place on the list of metrics that might cause a change in the game...
Tough! Someone took the time and effort to get the best gear and skill set and you have the balls to say they are OPed? BFD so his gear was higher then the group that not their fault period! So get over it and stop acting like a spoiled child. You sound like one of this whaa whaa I want everything free and maxed out cause I am a special snowflake. To freaking bad you were not top dog and didnt even do the bare minimum to get any points. PLUS you stated you were not even in the starting area so EPIC FAIL ON YOUR PART RIGHT THERE! If you can't even be in the start area when a mission starts speaks volumes how bad you are at the game.
MACO and you are complaining someone out damaged you? Really guy that set is nowhere near good enough for Elite these days. Bet you never upgraded it to Epic either. Gear up and stop whining.
Not really true. I have completed BotSE many times with captains that only have very rare non-rep / non-fleet Mk XII gear. I have not even bothered to allocate any Specialization Points. MIE on the other hand is pretty tough so Mk XIV gear is recommended, but Epic quality is not required.
Yea, after TRYING to get the AFK penalty in a pug I was just in, I'm going to have to agree with coldnapalm.
I took a couple shots at each Defiler only and pretty much ran to activate the objectives. I also took a few shots at the Harbinger of Lefty
and I still didn't get the AFK penalty.
So either the OP got a false tag for AFKing, or he was doing NOTHING.
In either case, he has NO reason to complain about someone out damaging him
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Nah, Druk specializes in Forum PvP.
Sorry to hear so. While I would agree with you that STO has power creep issues in space combat (0-514k DPS) on ground this is not that much of a thing yet (0-4k DPS).
If you have trouble contributing I suggest looking up current ground build recommendations from the STO-League. The players who made them really know their way on ground. While a ship build can get expensive at times ground is your friend. Some of the free stuff from story missions is even used currently in high end builds. I suppose it would only take you a few days to be in your saddle build wise.
Much more important than your build on ground is a constant use of all the abilities you have. Fife years ago the game got rapidly easy for me when I discovered the shooter mode and I hot keyed all my powers to board. Then it was just practice, practice and practice, exactly as it should be. You can do this too.
Now back on your feet soldier! We need you to do your part in elite grounds.
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