Ferasan/Tzenkethi ships coming?
Hope theyre not a science loving people.
KDF still lacks a proper T6 carrier, I'm not sure how popular a Ferasan catcarrier would be, but it's a possibility. So, I'd say a 50/50% chance atm.
Tzenkethi are almost certainly the next big baddie with full compliment of NPC ships and a lockbox, so we will get at least 2, probably 3 different flyable ships. So you're at least safe there.
Ferasan/Tzenkethi ships coming?
Hope theyre not a science loving people.
KDF still lacks a proper T6 carrier, I'm not sure how popular a Ferasan catcarrier would be, but it's a possibility. So, I'd say a 50/50% chance atm.
Tzenkethi are almost certainly the next big baddie with full compliment of NPC ships and a lockbox, so we will get at least 2, probably 3 different flyable ships. So you're at least safe there.
Yes! I need a Ferasan Carrier for my Ferasan to compliment my Caitian Carrier for my Caitian.
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I don't get this at all. We have the 23rd Century map, which is small. Then we have Kirk's Enterprise running into the First Federation on these new maps in the Alpha Quadrant way off out of 23rd Century map.
They could always expand the 23rd Century map, if/when they ever add more 23rd century content. But it's not really that hard to just just say that Kirk's Enterprise was on a 5 year mission of exploration, so they didn't necessarily have a map to where they were going.
Although really...Kirk and crew popped all over the place during their trip, from the far edge of the Alpha quadrant and then all the way back over to the Neutral Zone with the Romulan Empire in the Beta Quadrant. None of that makes a whole lot of sense.
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Although really...Kirk and crew popped all over the place during their trip, from the far edge of the Alpha quadrant and then all the way back over to the Neutral Zone with the Romulan Empire in the Beta Quadrant. None of that makes a whole lot of sense.
Don't forget that little jaunt past the Galactic Barrier, and getting from Nimbus III to the center of the Galaxy.
I don't get this at all. We have the 23rd Century map, which is small. Then we have Kirk's Enterprise running into the First Federation on these new maps in the Alpha Quadrant way off out of 23rd Century map.
its really simple.... watch the episode... the Enterprise was in totally uncharted territory and the first ship out there.. stated in episode dialogue
Not really a joke. I'd love to see them map the whole galaxy, but I also realize that's not likely to happen, as even in canon only a fraction of the galaxy has been explored.
If 8x8 is pushing it, then maybe 7x7 is would be safe. My OCD demands a perfect square. LOL
I had hoped they'd do the Delta Quadrant as mulitple large maps like old Sector Space with the map transitions being done using transwarp gates to simulate the vast distances that Voyager transversed.
I can understand why they wouldn't do the Delta Quad like that.
While it would be more fitting with the TV show, it would make it an utter pain to travel through in-game as some of the areas Voyager visited weren't even half a sector long.
They could make it horrible/ take forever to travel through like the sphere space to simulate travelling the entire length of the Delta Quadrant.
I know I feel like I've traveled for years whenever I do anything there.
Not really a joke. I'd love to see them map the whole galaxy, but I also realize that's not likely to happen, as even in canon only a fraction of the galaxy has been explored.
If 8x8 is pushing it, then maybe 7x7 is would be safe. My OCD demands a perfect square. LOL
I had hoped they'd do the Delta Quadrant as mulitple large maps like old Sector Space with the map transitions being done using transwarp gates to simulate the vast distances that Voyager transversed.
I can understand why they wouldn't do the Delta Quad like that.
While it would be more fitting with the TV show, it would make it an utter pain to travel through in-game as some of the areas Voyager visited weren't even half a sector long.
They could make it horrible/ take forever to travel through like the sphere space to simulate travelling the entire length of the Delta Quadrant.
I know I feel like I've traveled for years whenever I do anything there.
It wouldn't have been bad... If they just enabled the normal BGM rotation there. I'm not usually turning the background music off anywhere, but Delta Quadrant always makes me want to do that.
That theme isn't bad the first few times, but it's everywhere: in sector space, on ground maps, even in missions that actually have nothing to do with Delta except having a starting point there... (Time and Tide) With a fairly predictable effect of all that high-pitched bombast becoming... rather annoying.
I have the ambient turned all the way down anyway because anytime I'm at Earth spacedock space for some reason all the ships there keep cycling their powers continuously. I think they'll go blind if they don't stop that.
Not to mention when KES threw them right thru Borg controlled space in the Delta Quadrant.
I'll admit I'd love to see Alpha Quadrant similar size to Beta, but would be nice is a whole new Quadrant to explore be it Gamma Quadrant at some point and expanding on the Dominion story...
Still I guess we'll have to wait to see how the story evolves moving forward & with the addition of Star Trek Discovery since they claimed to be venturing into new territory with new enemies & possible allies or character's...
I have the ambient turned all the way down anyway because anytime I'm at Earth spacedock space for some reason all the ships there keep cycling their powers continuously. I think they'll go blind if they don't stop that.
People testing their spacebar (or generally checking if the numbers on their new build are what they thought they would be.) Space above the ESD isn't perfect for that, but it's usually the nearest.
I know full well about the Episode, I watched it when it first premiered. First of the non-pilot Episodes filmed. I know the map was curtailed. The point I was making was to get to the First Federation you had to go through areas of space that was charted and we have no recollection of it at all, then. Before then, in Enterprise, and after in TNG we do, but not then.
Where is Delta Vega and the Galaxy's Edge? Where is Talos? Seems like the TOS Enterprise went 'where no man has gone before' and apparently afterwards as well.
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Ferasa (ahem, Kzinti, ahem) would be set in it's own block back in the old days of STO. Due to being KDF territory. Right smack dab in the middle of Federation territory. The events of 2410, and the newer, open sector map, made the need for hard and fast territory borders moot. It makes sense that the Devs could expand in this way now. It wouldn't have been as practical previously.
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KDF still lacks a proper T6 carrier, I'm not sure how popular a Ferasan catcarrier would be, but it's a possibility. So, I'd say a 50/50% chance atm.
I'd call it less than 50% chance, more like 15%.
With Cryptic completely over looking Orion designs for the command cruisers (FDCs, which prior to T6 KDF FDCs were all Orion designed), and ignoring Gorn designs for the latest sci ship bundle (previous to T6 all KDF sci ships were Gorn), the chances of any member species sub-faction getting a ship seems extremely small.
The Nausicaan Koalasi is I think the only KDF member species designed ship to be added to the KDF line-up since launch. (ignoring fleet and T5U upgrades)
That's right, ONE (sub faction) ship in SEVEN YEARS. Even then, it's just the T5 version with some tweaks.
And the KDF does need a new full carrier. The only T6 carrier they have is a little escort job with the Qa'tel.
That's not a carrier. It has a flight deck (single hanger).
By that definition you can throw the Kolasi and the 3 command cruisers onto that list.
Are Feresians known for having carriers in lore? Not sure why everyone wants catcarriers aside from the nice alliteration. And cats. I think I'd prefer them with destroyer class ships. Not many destroyer class ships relative to cruisers and escorts.
T6 Kar'Fi would be the best carrier choice. Tac and Sci heavy ship gives all the good DPS choices. A T6 Vo'Quv seems a dull choice to me and no one wants eng heavy ships these days. With the ship model already there it'll give them an excuse to fix the ghost texture issue on the current Kar'Fi then copy/paste for a T6 version and up the stats. Done.
I'm gonna be upset if we have Ferasa on the map and not Cait. WE DEMAND KITTY EQUALITY!
...and purchasable tails and ears in the tailor for our Alien kitties...
Cait is likely never going to be on the map. It's like 5 sectors south of the current Alpha Quadrant map, and theres nothing for like 2-3 sector in all directions from it.
It is, quite literally, in the middle of nowhere.
So move it. I'm pretty sure players would prefer the planet be in the wrong spot than not in the game at all.
depends... put it there just to have a pip on a map? no... don't bother. Something pointless like andoria? Again, waste of dev time.
KDF still lacks a proper T6 carrier, I'm not sure how popular a Ferasan catcarrier would be, but it's a possibility. So, I'd say a 50/50% chance atm.
I'd call it less than 50% chance, more like 15%.
With Cryptic completely over looking Orion designs for the command cruisers (FDCs, which prior to T6 KDF FDCs were all Orion designed), and ignoring Gorn designs for the latest sci ship bundle (previous to T6 all KDF sci ships were Gorn), the chances of any member species sub-faction getting a ship seems extremely small.
The Nausicaan Koalasi is I think the only KDF member species designed ship to be added to the KDF line-up since launch. (ignoring fleet and T5U upgrades)
That's right, ONE (sub faction) ship in SEVEN YEARS. Even then, it's just the T5 version with some tweaks.
And the KDF does need a new full carrier. The only T6 carrier they have is a little escort job with the Qa'tel.
That's not a carrier. It has a flight deck (single hanger).
By that definition you can throw the Kolasi and the 3 command cruisers onto that list.
Are Feresians known for having carriers in lore? Not sure why everyone wants catcarriers aside from the nice alliteration. And cats. I think I'd prefer them with destroyer class ships. Not many destroyer class ships relative to cruisers and escorts.
T6 Kar'Fi would be the best carrier choice. Tac and Sci heavy ship gives all the good DPS choices. A T6 Vo'Quv seems a dull choice to me and no one wants eng heavy ships these days. With the ship model already there it'll give them an excuse to fix the ghost texture issue on the current Kar'Fi then copy/paste for a T6 version and up the stats. Done.
Well, I said 50/50 for carrier assuming there would be a Ferasan ship (Some kind of destroyer or raider, or "why not both?" is the other 50.) Now whether or not there would be a Ferasan ship...
On the one hand, you're right, and to be fair, that's exactly what an apparent majority of KDF players want: more Klingon designs. On the other, cats are special. More special than even Orions. And so are STO catcarriers. Don't question it, that's simply the way the universe is. So, if there is any chance of Cryptic risking to release a non-Klingon ship again, this is it.
I don't get this at all. We have the 23rd Century map, which is small. Then we have Kirk's Enterprise running into the First Federation on these new maps in the Alpha Quadrant way off out of 23rd Century map.
Remember what Spock said to Kirk in "The Wrath of Khan"...
https://youtu.be/RbTUTNenvCY
Imagine our STO map as a three dimensional object and you can see better how Kirk could get to the farthest reaches, without passing through places not know at the time.
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Watch for that cat carrier (cattier?) to release pets... you could be in for a shock. :P
The puntential is endless, like cats' War On Lasers.
Also a thought... If the usual pattern of T6 upgrades will be followed, the hypothetical T6 Atrox would be the fourth (and the only non-promo) ship with all-ltc+ seating...
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Tzenkethi are almost certainly the next big baddie with full compliment of NPC ships and a lockbox, so we will get at least 2, probably 3 different flyable ships. So you're at least safe there.
Yes! I need a Ferasan Carrier for my Ferasan to compliment my Caitian Carrier for my Caitian.
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They could always expand the 23rd Century map, if/when they ever add more 23rd century content. But it's not really that hard to just just say that Kirk's Enterprise was on a 5 year mission of exploration, so they didn't necessarily have a map to where they were going.
Although really...Kirk and crew popped all over the place during their trip, from the far edge of the Alpha quadrant and then all the way back over to the Neutral Zone with the Romulan Empire in the Beta Quadrant. None of that makes a whole lot of sense.
Don't forget that little jaunt past the Galactic Barrier, and getting from Nimbus III to the center of the Galaxy.
its really simple.... watch the episode... the Enterprise was in totally uncharted territory and the first ship out there.. stated in episode dialogue
They could make it horrible/ take forever to travel through like the sphere space to simulate travelling the entire length of the Delta Quadrant.
I know I feel like I've traveled for years whenever I do anything there.
It wouldn't have been bad... If they just enabled the normal BGM rotation there. I'm not usually turning the background music off anywhere, but Delta Quadrant always makes me want to do that.
That theme isn't bad the first few times, but it's everywhere: in sector space, on ground maps, even in missions that actually have nothing to do with Delta except having a starting point there... (Time and Tide) With a fairly predictable effect of all that high-pitched bombast becoming... rather annoying.
I'll admit I'd love to see Alpha Quadrant similar size to Beta, but would be nice is a whole new Quadrant to explore be it Gamma Quadrant at some point and expanding on the Dominion story...
Still I guess we'll have to wait to see how the story evolves moving forward & with the addition of Star Trek Discovery since they claimed to be venturing into new territory with new enemies & possible allies or character's...
Where is Delta Vega and the Galaxy's Edge? Where is Talos? Seems like the TOS Enterprise went 'where no man has gone before' and apparently afterwards as well.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
With Cryptic completely over looking Orion designs for the command cruisers (FDCs, which prior to T6 KDF FDCs were all Orion designed), and ignoring Gorn designs for the latest sci ship bundle (previous to T6 all KDF sci ships were Gorn), the chances of any member species sub-faction getting a ship seems extremely small.
The Nausicaan Koalasi is I think the only KDF member species designed ship to be added to the KDF line-up since launch. (ignoring fleet and T5U upgrades)
That's right, ONE (sub faction) ship in SEVEN YEARS. Even then, it's just the T5 version with some tweaks.
That's not a carrier. It has a flight deck (single hanger).
By that definition you can throw the Kolasi and the 3 command cruisers onto that list.
Are Feresians known for having carriers in lore? Not sure why everyone wants catcarriers aside from the nice alliteration. And cats. I think I'd prefer them with destroyer class ships. Not many destroyer class ships relative to cruisers and escorts.
T6 Kar'Fi would be the best carrier choice. Tac and Sci heavy ship gives all the good DPS choices. A T6 Vo'Quv seems a dull choice to me and no one wants eng heavy ships these days. With the ship model already there it'll give them an excuse to fix the ghost texture issue on the current Kar'Fi then copy/paste for a T6 version and up the stats. Done.
depends... put it there just to have a pip on a map? no... don't bother. Something pointless like andoria? Again, waste of dev time.
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Well, I said 50/50 for carrier assuming there would be a Ferasan ship (Some kind of destroyer or raider, or "why not both?" is the other 50.) Now whether or not there would be a Ferasan ship...
On the one hand, you're right, and to be fair, that's exactly what an apparent majority of KDF players want: more Klingon designs. On the other, cats are special. More special than even Orions. And so are STO catcarriers. Don't question it, that's simply the way the universe is. So, if there is any chance of Cryptic risking to release a non-Klingon ship again, this is it.
Remember what Spock said to Kirk in "The Wrath of Khan"...
Imagine our STO map as a three dimensional object and you can see better how Kirk could get to the farthest reaches, without passing through places not know at the time.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
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Also a thought... If the usual pattern of T6 upgrades will be followed, the hypothetical T6 Atrox would be the fourth (and the only non-promo) ship with all-ltc+ seating...