Idea's for Beyond stuff in STO.

captainbmoney

Kelvin TImeline Recon Exploration Escort: Franklin

Cm Eng/Pilot
Lt Cm Universal
Lt Cm Science
lt engineering
ensign Universal
4 Fore weapons
3 Aft
Console "Sabotage Chain Reaction" Plays a 10 second clip of music that creats explosions from behind the ship while giving the ship a +5% boost in speed
Trait "On the road again" Adds a +3 Boost in speed while firing cannons or beams. +7 boost to defense while firing torpedos or mines.

Kelvin Timeline Command Cruiser Refit

Comm Eng/Command
Lt Cm Tac
Lt cm Universal
Lt Sci
Ensign Universal
Console "Giant green hand". Sends a giant green hand to attack a group with a max amount of 10 to do a massage amount of damage depending on offensive powerlevel.
Trait "Flagship Fleet Trespass" Sends in a group of random kelvin style ships to fight by your side for 12 seconds if your hull is below 50 percent. 10% chance to enhance shield hardening.

Kelvin Timeline Enhanced Frontrunner Flight Deck Cruiser [U.S.S. Kelvin]

Cm Universal/Something
Lt Tac
ens tac
Lt Cm Uniseral
lt sci
ens sci
[1 launchbay of Kelvin Type shuttles]
Console "Into the mist" Pretend to stall ship for 4 seconds and as soon as those 4 seconds are up shield hardness will be at max while fire and engines will be at their lowest. opens up a small rift to attact enemies.
Trait "In Memory Of George Kirk" Improved Shield healing and recovery rate from use of any Bridge Officer Ability.

What do you think? ;Lol

iconians

I've heard of worse ideas.​​

officerbatman81

No more KT stuff.

Now we need to focus on Discovery stuff. Ill have a T6 Fugly KlingFed support cruiser with a dorito shaped body.

captainbmoney

there is literally nothing known about Discovery. there is too few Kelvin stuff.

commanderkassy

captainbmoney wrote: »

there is literally nothing known about Discovery. there is too few Kelvin stuff.

It has a hideous ship, we know that.

jorantomalak

officerbatman81 wrote: »

No more KT stuff.

Now we need to focus on Discovery stuff. Ill have a T6 Fugly KlingFed support cruiser with a dorito shaped body.

Id rather have a fed,rom,kling advanced escort with a cheeto shaped body lol

captainbmoney

commanderkassy wrote: »

captainbmoney wrote: »

there is literally nothing known about Discovery. there is too few Kelvin stuff.

It has a hideous ship, we know that.

for a prototype yes.

commanderkassy

captainbmoney wrote: »

commanderkassy wrote: »

captainbmoney wrote: »

there is literally nothing known about Discovery. there is too few Kelvin stuff.

It has a hideous ship, we know that.

for a prototype yes.

Has nothing to do with the fact that it's ugly as sin.

markhawkman

officerbatman81 wrote: »

No more KT stuff.

Now we need to focus on Discovery stuff. Ill have a T6 Fugly KlingFed support cruiser with a dorito shaped body.

Now we need a burrito shaped escort, and a taco shaped science ship...

legendarylycan

we already have a burrito - it just has a bulge in the middle

and i think @tacofangs would appreciate a taco-shaped ship​​

captainbmoney

lmao. I do hope taco sees this thead though. and Geko for that matter.

artan42

captainbmoney wrote: »

Kelvin Timeline Enhanced Frontrunner Flight Deck Cruiser (U.S.S. Kelvin) [U.S.S. Newton

Cm Universal/Something Pilot
Lt Tac
ens tac
Lt Cm Uniseral
lt sci
ens sci
(1 2 launchbays of Kelvin Type shuttles)
Console "Into the mist" Pretend to stall ship for 4 seconds and as soon as those 4 seconds are up shield hardness will be at max while fire and engines will be at their lowest. opens up a small rift to attact enemies.
Trait "In Memory Of George Kirk Sir Isaac Newton" Spams Gravity Wells like the deadliest mother in space.

What do you think? ;Lol

Needed a bit of fixing up ​​

theotherscotty

I like this idea. A lot.

dracounguis

Boff seating seems a wee bit powerful for a crappy ol' ship like the Franklin. It'd be more a tier 2 ship in STO.

khayuung

Franklin is even MORE dingy than the t1 nx-01.

How about a Kelvin Timeline bundle? Like DS9? Toss in costumes, replica hand phasers and leveling phase emitter arrays.

starkaos

Does the Franklin actually belong with the Kelvin Universe ships? Until it is clarified whether the Kelvin Universe is a parallel universe which is stated in the Terminal Expanse mission or a new timeline that was created when Nero destroyed the USS Kelvin, then its status is unknown. Either the Franklin is from a parallel universe and the STO Universe's version of the Franklin is different in a few ways or the Franklin in Beyond is from before the timeline split and should be in the C-Store and named as the Recon Exploration Escort instead of the Kelvin Timeline Recon Exploration Escort.

doubleohnine

I LOLd at the Giant Green Hand console.

captainbmoney

lol Newton should be a full on carrier. not a flight deck cruiser.

legendarylycan

starkaos wrote: »

Does the Franklin actually belong with the Kelvin Universe ships? Until it is clarified whether the Kelvin Universe is a parallel universe which is stated in the Terminal Expanse mission or a new timeline that was created when Nero destroyed the USS Kelvin, then its status is unknown. Either the Franklin is from a parallel universe and the STO Universe's version of the Franklin is different in a few ways or the Franklin in Beyond is from before the timeline split and should be in the C-Store and named as the Recon Exploration Escort instead of the Kelvin Timeline Recon Exploration Escort.

it ewas clarified in the first film, and it is neither an alternate universe or an alternate timeline, it's an alternate reality​​

artan42

The Franklin predates the timeline split. The Kelvin Timeline starts after the attack on the Kelvin. All ships prior to that are ENT era (the Franklin) or Kelvin era (the Kelvin, Newton etc.) with only the KonsTitution and Dreadnought being strictly AR designs.​​

artan42

captainbmoney wrote: »

lol Newton should be a full on carrier. not a flight deck cruiser.

I don't particularly like the idea of Federation carriers in the first place, especially as they don't have fighters, just shuttles.​​

legendarylycan

*cough*peregrine*cough*​​

rattler2

artan42 wrote: »

captainbmoney wrote: »

lol Newton should be a full on carrier. not a flight deck cruiser.

I don't particularly like the idea of Federation carriers in the first place, especially as they don't have fighters, just shuttles.​​

Then explain the use of Peregrine Fighters in the Dominion War.

artan42

The Newton and Kelvin don't have fighters not the Federation. Sesh. Context people.


Also, Peregrines? The repurposed couriers? They're manoeuvrable runabouts, they don't even need carriers.​​

thay8472

artan42 wrote: »

The Newton and Kelvin don't have fighters not the Federation. Sesh. Context people.


Also, Peregrines? The repurposed couriers? They're manoeuvrable runabouts, they don't even need carriers.​​

but they are fighters.

rattler2

artan42 wrote: »

The Newton and Kelvin don't have fighters not the Federation. Sesh. Context people.


Also, Peregrines? The repurposed couriers? They're manoeuvrable runabouts, they don't even need carriers.​​

And the extent of dedicated bombers in WW1 was a guy physcially handling little bombs and dropping them out of his cockpit I believe. For all intents and purposes the Federation used fighters in the Dominion War.

artan42

thay8472 wrote: »

artan42 wrote: »

The Newton and Kelvin don't have fighters not the Federation. Sesh. Context people.


Also, Peregrines? The repurposed couriers? They're manoeuvrable runabouts, they don't even need carriers.

but they are fighters.

They're specifically referenced to as repurposed couriers in DS9. I'm not saying they're not fighters, I'm saying they weren't built as them.​​

starkaos

shadowfang240 wrote: »

starkaos wrote: »

Does the Franklin actually belong with the Kelvin Universe ships? Until it is clarified whether the Kelvin Universe is a parallel universe which is stated in the Terminal Expanse mission or a new timeline that was created when Nero destroyed the USS Kelvin, then its status is unknown. Either the Franklin is from a parallel universe and the STO Universe's version of the Franklin is different in a few ways or the Franklin in Beyond is from before the timeline split and should be in the C-Store and named as the Recon Exploration Escort instead of the Kelvin Timeline Recon Exploration Escort.

it ewas clarified in the first film, and it is neither an alternate universe or an alternate timeline, it's an alternate reality​​

Parallel universes and alternate timelines are alternate realities. Alternate realities just means that they are a different reality from the one we are familiar with. Parallel universes mean that two realities are only similar to each other with some major difference so the Kelvin Universe would only be similar to the Prime Universe before 2233 if it was a parallel universe. Alternate timelines means that two realities are exactly the same until they split off since they were originally the same reality.

rattler2

starkaos wrote: »

Parallel universes and alternate timelines are alternate realities. Alternate realities just means that they are a different reality from the one we are familiar with. Parallel universes mean that two realities are only similar to each other with some major difference so the Kelvin Universe would only be similar to the Prime Universe before 2233 if it was a parallel universe. Alternate timelines means that two realities are exactly the same until they split off since they were originally the same reality.

And thus... we have the split in 2233, thus alternate timeline.

legendarylycan

EDIT: nevermind; star trek's versions of alternate anything are so twisted and tangled with each other, there's no possible way to tell the difference between them

but for the sake of the kelvin timeline, both kurtzman and orci referred to it as a quantum reality, which falls under the http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Parallel_universe article​​

theotherscotty

I haven't watched any of TNG episodes in a long time, but if I'm remembering correctly, didn't Wesley and his classmates fly some sort of fighters in the Academy? Those would certainly qualify. And in the Kelvin Timeline I remember seeing some fighters buzzing overhead in formation in some scene (from Into Darkness, I think it was).