I hope its not between Enterpise and TOS, that's too far back in time.
Not at all... Romulan War... Birth/Expansion of the Federation... Actually one of the richest eras in Trek history to delve into If it's handled properly...
I for one welcome our new 'Rejected concept Overlords'
The show runner also confirmed that this is set in the Prime Universe, and they have gone to some lengths to find something that both looks 'New' and practically 'canon'. As they did made studio models of that STPT ship and it appeared in Search of Spock and TNG. So its basically a refit of that design, which IS canon.
Smooth, sexy star trek ships have been done over and over and people got really tired of them. (Ugh JJprise) They wanted something different, and still fit into lore, they found the perfect ship. I agree its weird and offputting. Just like the Galaxy class looked to the Constitution, but its different and still very much Trek. So i'm willing to let this new ship grow on me, and i hope you all give it a chance...accept that Star Trek isn't just ONE thing and embrace change.
[Edit] Just read the article further where it notes that it's based on a very old unused USS Enterprise concept... Interesting...
Yep, I remember reading about the design in Starlog back in the '70s. Ralph McQuarrie also designed the Star Destroyers for George Lucas' little sci-fi flick - he was in demand back in the day because he wasn't as expensive as some artists.
IIRC, the Galaxy-class is also based on one of his designs; that and the vituperation directed at the Ent-D back in the day leave me confident that everyone talking about how "ugly" the Discovery is will warm up to it over time.
I always loved McQuarrie's style and design work... I didn't know the Galaxy-class was based on his work too... Have to admit, I always loved the design of the Enterprise-D, right from Encounter at Farpoint (but then I know my tastes don't always align with those of others) and although I'm not exactly a huge fan of the aesthetics of this design, I do like the idea that they're looking to those past concepts for inspiration
I will say this, Oh Heck NO! This is the worst looking ship I ever saw. I take the KU Connie over this! Of all the ships designs they come up with. This is the worst. Glad I'm not paying $ to see this show on their access.
Oh heck No is Right. WOW, that is one ugly ship. Just made my decision easier, IM OUT! If they show that much disregard for good design, the show itself will be a clusterfudge as well, with an awful crew. Its like a Starfleet Klingon designed that ship. Is this April fools or something? So they show is set inbetween Enterprise and TOS? LAME.
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Capt. Will Conquest of the U.S.S. Crusader
The name of the ship and series don't bother me. But who wanted that ship designed needs their head examine! This makes the KU ship look good. What nut case wanted this ship.
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Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
I've actually always had a soft spot for this particular ship design. It's even canon as its own ship, in that we see it a handful of times as a background object here and there.
Frankly, I'm fine with it. Considering the look of it, and the registry number on it (1031, to be precise), what we're looking at is an incredibly early-era Starfleet ship and series.
It looks rugged, prototypical, like Starfleet is starting to get a feel for what their ships will eventually become, but not quite there yet.
The absolute worst Star Trek ship design I have ever seen.you could make a ship out of Legos and Linkin Logs that is more aesthetically pleasing.I hope that it is a joke,or set up to mislead us on what the real ship will actually look like.The more news I hear about this new series the worse that bad taste in my mouth gets.My lord just hire everyone involved with Axanar and make money with a project that truly gives Star trek fans genuine excitement.
Oh heck No is Right. WOW, that is one ugly ship. Just made my decision easier, IM OUT! If they show that much disregard for good design, the show itself will be a clusterfudge as well, with an awful crew. Its like a Starfleet Klingon designed that ship. Is this April fools or something? So they show is set inbetween Enterprise and TOS? LAME.
I may try to watch the first episode or 2. But the ship alone is already a huge let down. To me seeing the ship in action is a big part of the show. To look good is a must have! I will see this show for free on the net or some other way. I'm not forking out $ for a TRIBBLE ship to see it on their access.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
it's a homage to a design from one of the great sci fi artists of our lifetimes and it's both original and visually interesting. I'd take it over the JJprize in a heartbeat.
It's a saucer stuck to a triangle with cylinders hanging off of it. Even great artists can have an off day...
Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
Starship design to come to a Star Trek MMO near you...
Honestly, the trailer rendering isn't the best quality. An STO version would likely be of higher quality, once the new production style has established itself. I always like McQuarrie's concept art. I'd likely buy this new class of starship from the C-Store. Just don't stick it in a Lockbox.
I have no problem with "change". It's the details that are the issue.
Change is always in the details. Even the JJverse trek sticks to much of the theme of star trek. (Ship, Crew, drama) There problem is they try to much: Ship, Crew, ACTION! and it doesn't feel right. Treks also tried: Space Station, crew, Drama, and gave up on that after a few seasons. So the change has to come somewhere or things start to seem like they are just endlessly repeating. The uniforms change, the ship changes, the enemies change... but the Ship, Crew, Drama format remains the same.
So the details are going to change, we can't fight it. Its new for a reason.
Considering the tone of the music, and the potential time frame the show could take place in because of the ship's relatively low registry number, we may in fact be seeing a series taking place during the first Federation/Klingon War.
Considering the tone of the music, and the potential time frame the show could take place in because of the ship's relatively low registry number, we may in fact be seeing a series taking place during the first Federation/Klingon War.
the registry puts it as early TOS... but the saucer has some of the same lines as TMP enterprise... and those boxy Nacelles... oh. So ignoring the big Triangle hull... the details we can source to canon for now leave us anywhere between early TOS and Undiscovered Country...
I'm very very happy to learn that we will have at least one season of real Trek!
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Yeah I still despise the Galaxy, it looks like Timmeh from South Park all bloated head and tiny body with vestigal limbs. The USS TIMMEH!
I like this new one though, it's a homage to a design from one of the great sci fi artists of our lifetimes and it's both original and visually interesting. I'd take it over the JJprize in a heartbeat.
Can anyone work out what the number is, specifically how many digits? It starts 103, but beyond that... bit too dark. Might be able to determine rough time frames.
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Not at all... Romulan War... Birth/Expansion of the Federation... Actually one of the richest eras in Trek history to delve into If it's handled properly...
The show runner also confirmed that this is set in the Prime Universe, and they have gone to some lengths to find something that both looks 'New' and practically 'canon'. As they did made studio models of that STPT ship and it appeared in Search of Spock and TNG. So its basically a refit of that design, which IS canon.
Smooth, sexy star trek ships have been done over and over and people got really tired of them. (Ugh JJprise) They wanted something different, and still fit into lore, they found the perfect ship. I agree its weird and offputting. Just like the Galaxy class looked to the Constitution, but its different and still very much Trek. So i'm willing to let this new ship grow on me, and i hope you all give it a chance...accept that Star Trek isn't just ONE thing and embrace change.
Cryptic Account: Robert_Praetori
what is your malfunction? no, "everyone" is not going to change their mind. there is nothing wrong with not liking something.
Have you ever used the internet before?
I have no problem with "change". It's the details that are the issue.
Oh heck No is Right. WOW, that is one ugly ship. Just made my decision easier, IM OUT! If they show that much disregard for good design, the show itself will be a clusterfudge as well, with an awful crew. Its like a Starfleet Klingon designed that ship. Is this April fools or something? So they show is set inbetween Enterprise and TOS? LAME.
Capt. Will Conquest of the U.S.S. Crusader
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Frankly, I'm fine with it. Considering the look of it, and the registry number on it (1031, to be precise), what we're looking at is an incredibly early-era Starfleet ship and series.
It looks rugged, prototypical, like Starfleet is starting to get a feel for what their ships will eventually become, but not quite there yet.
Oh,I hereby rename this ship The U.S.S. Jar-Jar
I may try to watch the first episode or 2. But the ship alone is already a huge let down. To me seeing the ship in action is a big part of the show. To look good is a must have! I will see this show for free on the net or some other way. I'm not forking out $ for a TRIBBLE ship to see it on their access.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
It's a saucer stuck to a triangle with cylinders hanging off of it. Even great artists can have an off day...
Honestly, the trailer rendering isn't the best quality. An STO version would likely be of higher quality, once the new production style has established itself. I always like McQuarrie's concept art. I'd likely buy this new class of starship from the C-Store. Just don't stick it in a Lockbox.
More on the original concept art. http://io9.gizmodo.com/5721854/ralph-mcquarries-lost-concept-art-for-a-star-trek-movie-in-1976-1977/
Change is always in the details. Even the JJverse trek sticks to much of the theme of star trek. (Ship, Crew, drama) There problem is they try to much: Ship, Crew, ACTION! and it doesn't feel right. Treks also tried: Space Station, crew, Drama, and gave up on that after a few seasons. So the change has to come somewhere or things start to seem like they are just endlessly repeating. The uniforms change, the ship changes, the enemies change... but the Ship, Crew, Drama format remains the same.
So the details are going to change, we can't fight it. Its new for a reason.
Cryptic Account: Robert_Praetori
The birth of the ugliest Trek ship ever?
the registry puts it as early TOS... but the saucer has some of the same lines as TMP enterprise... and those boxy Nacelles... oh. So ignoring the big Triangle hull... the details we can source to canon for now leave us anywhere between early TOS and Undiscovered Country...
Cryptic Account: Robert_Praetori
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
If I had this thing growing on me,I'd have it surgery removed
OOOO! One has a triangle, one has a hexagon and the 3rd has a rhombus hull!