Well puts more light on why they had to hide this behind a pay wall lol
Well, Fuller said he wants this series more graphic, which is a code word for blood and sex. TBH this make sence because there were 2 series (Breaking bad and Game of thrones) that destroyed every charts even tho they were on payed channel and were shows for adults.
TV has changed since 2005 and he knows this.
The NCC number don't make it pre TOS. As shown with known Constitutions. I separated all the ones that has numbers that predate the ship that started the Constitution class. If you go by the NCC number alone. These would be built way before the Class Ship was built.
USS Constitution NCC-1700
** USS Constellation NCC-1017
USS Defiant NCC-1764
** USS Eagle NCC-956 (refit)
USS Endeavour NCC-1895
USS Enterprise NCC-1701 (refit 2271)
** USS Essex NCC-1697
** USS Excalibur NCC-1664
** USS Exeter NCC-1672
** USS Farragut NCC-1647
USS Hood NCC-1703
** USS Intrepid NCC-1631
USS Kongo NCC-1710
USS Lexington NCC-1709
** USS Potemkin NCC-1657
** USS Republic NCC-1371
USS Yorktown NCC-1717
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Well puts more light on why they had to hide this behind a pay wall lol
Well, Fuller said he wants this series more graphic, which is a code word for blood and sex. TBH this make sence because there were 2 series (Breaking bad and Game of thrones) that destroyed every charts even tho they were on payed channel and were shows for adults.
TV has changed since 2005 and he knows this.
Greedy !!
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
As for the ship itself... @_@ ... I recognized the design right away, and honestly,, im 50/50 its horrible, and its great at the same time. Its definitely a Star Trek universe starship, but its very different from any other Hero ship we've ever seen on screen. The NCC-1031 means it's potentially Pre-TOS, which seems like an odd choice, because wouldn't that potentially be repeating the same mistakes made with Enterprise? IE: Technology can't seem more advanced than TOS. Many alien races first contacted in TOS, TNG, DS9, etc would be off limits because " canon". Unless they plan on pulling some sort of huge twist like the ship gets sent to the Andromeda galaxy and has too,, ow wait,, haven't we seen that before too?
Eh, I think Enterprise's problems were less because of the time period and more because the writers were trying to make it up as they went. For prequels to work you need to have an idea of where you want to go with it, otherwise you wind up writing yourself into corners because of poor planning.
I've seen it reported that they have stated this show will have a serialized story format (ala DS9) so things might work out better than the last prequel attempt. The fact that Nicholas Meyers is on the project also gives me a little more faith in the story telling potential. However I'll admit the network executives seem to be almost ashamed of the franchise at times, so you never know how things will turn out.
Yeah, not like those charitable beings at the cable companies who package a bunch of channels you don't actually want or will ever watch in your service just so you can have access to the 3 or 4 channels you might actually want.
No, sir. It's paid streaming services like Netflix and CBS All-Access that are the real problem here!
I get the impression this it's just test footage and that the final design, and the quality of the CGI itself, will be far nicer than what we've seen here.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
The NCC number don't make it pre TOS. As shown with known Constitutions. I separated all the ones that has numbers that predate the ship that started the Constitution class. If you go by the NCC number alone. These would be built way before the Class Ship was built.
USS Constitution NCC-1700
** USS Constellation NCC-1017
USS Defiant NCC-1764
** USS Eagle NCC-956 (refit)
USS Endeavour NCC-1895
USS Enterprise NCC-1701 (refit 2271)
** USS Essex NCC-1697
** USS Excalibur NCC-1664
** USS Exeter NCC-1672
** USS Farragut NCC-1647
USS Hood NCC-1703
** USS Intrepid NCC-1631
USS Kongo NCC-1710
USS Lexington NCC-1709
** USS Potemkin NCC-1657
** USS Republic NCC-1371
USS Yorktown NCC-1717
If you go by hero ships, and hero ships only, this will pre-date the Enterprise. And I think it's safe to say that, outside of the hero ships, registry numbers are just random. Only the hero ships stick to any sort of pattern.
Oh wow...
It's... Weird.
I like the primary hull and the boxy nacelles, but that "Dorito Wedge" secondary hull has got to go.
Oh lordy, that's stuck in my head now..., it's the U.S.S. DORITO
<sad face>
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Take the 4-digit NCC, consider the wide "Type 1" windows, the square-ish hull plates, add in the design of the nacelles and the glowy-blue-light deflector... Makes me think that this will likely be right around TMP era: 2270s, which, coincidentally, is when the abandoned Phase II series (not to be confused with the New Voyages/Phase II fan series) would have been set (the script for the Phase II pilot "In thy Image" actually became TMP's script). Also, the triangle-shaped secondary hull design was one of the rejected proposals for the Phase II Enterprise refit--not a TOS or TNG design.
Yeah, it's totally a guess, but what (very) little we know so far... it fits.
As a side note, the NCC-1031: Space Shuttle Discovery had the designator OV-103.
Soo.. this is a thing now... highly doubt we'll see it come STO's way any time soon... and before folks complain too much, consensus is that the folks drew inspiration off of some early phase II enterprise concepts... soo, yeah.
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The T6 Discovery-class Intellicommandemporal Elite Tactical Advanced Science Dreadnought Carrier 3-pack, coming to a C-store near you.
The Marrone-class will be the Engineering-focused version and look eerily similar to the Ambassador.
The Randall-class will be the Tactical-focused version and will have a trait that buffs FAW, and will generally be the one most players use because it will probably have like 5 tactical consoles.
The Ricossa-class will be the Science version but isn't quite sure what the starship will be, and will change it a year after release after stating that Cryptic wasn't sure what form the ship would take before selling it, sorry for the inconvenience.
Each carrier will come with a Hangar of Duguid-class Tacotical Fighters that will be stupid overpowered, but still suffer from poor AI and will blow up routinely from enemy warp core breaches.
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You know, I never really feel a need to post but.... Apparently there is no god. Please, PLEASE KILL THIS ABOMINATION NOW!! Oh ffs tear out my eyes! Tear out my eyes I can't unsee this THING!! I hate you CBS, I hate you T_T
Hi everyone, I know this isn't STO related, but I have made a reaction and review video to the new First Look of Star Trek's U.S.S. Discovery trailer that was released. Since a lot of people know me and my channel through STO, I thought I'd post this here
Dr. Miranda Jones: I understand, Mr. Spock. The glory of creation is in its infinite diversity.
Mr. Spock: And the ways our differences combine, to create meaning and beauty.
It's interesting that they dug out some of the old TMP/Phase 2/Planet of the Titans stuff for this design and maybe if it had been done back then it wouldn't be as jarring. As it currently stands, though, there's far too much of a disconnect and a dissonance with established Star Trek aesthetics, especially since this new show has officially been stated to be in the Prime Universe.
I also really, really hope that's very early CGI that was just put together at the last minute because it's just awful. When fan films like Axanar and others are beating the pants off an official production it's no wonder CBS is scared and suing.
I agree with most of your points here... as for the CG quality? My mother and avid trek fan said "it looks like a cartoon" and that she's seen better fan offerings in that arena.
Me? i'll play devils advocate on that part and postulate that some idiot decided to throw together a quick test render in order to make comicon.
The Design? horribly clumsy.. saucer then suddenly all these angles and a very flat profile. I mean if this discovery was a testbed for a particular set of engine specs? yeah i'll grant that.. but given that this ship is ALL WE KNOW about the new series? it doth not bode well..
and honestly even Drexler's proposed "NX-Refit" looked better than this. :B
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Well, Fuller said he wants this series more graphic, which is a code word for blood and sex. TBH this make sence because there were 2 series (Breaking bad and Game of thrones) that destroyed every charts even tho they were on payed channel and were shows for adults.
TV has changed since 2005 and he knows this.
USS Constitution NCC-1700
** USS Constellation NCC-1017
USS Defiant NCC-1764
** USS Eagle NCC-956 (refit)
USS Endeavour NCC-1895
USS Enterprise NCC-1701 (refit 2271)
** USS Essex NCC-1697
** USS Excalibur NCC-1664
** USS Exeter NCC-1672
** USS Farragut NCC-1647
USS Hood NCC-1703
** USS Intrepid NCC-1631
USS Kongo NCC-1710
USS Lexington NCC-1709
** USS Potemkin NCC-1657
** USS Republic NCC-1371
USS Yorktown NCC-1717
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Greedy !!
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Eh, I think Enterprise's problems were less because of the time period and more because the writers were trying to make it up as they went. For prequels to work you need to have an idea of where you want to go with it, otherwise you wind up writing yourself into corners because of poor planning.
I've seen it reported that they have stated this show will have a serialized story format (ala DS9) so things might work out better than the last prequel attempt. The fact that Nicholas Meyers is on the project also gives me a little more faith in the story telling potential. However I'll admit the network executives seem to be almost ashamed of the franchise at times, so you never know how things will turn out.
I guess this is the response, Iconoians.youtu.be/mJXYMDu6dpY
No, sir. It's paid streaming services like Netflix and CBS All-Access that are the real problem here!
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Sad, I always felt it was the most underappreciated workhorse of the UFP.
If you go by hero ships, and hero ships only, this will pre-date the Enterprise. And I think it's safe to say that, outside of the hero ships, registry numbers are just random. Only the hero ships stick to any sort of pattern.
It's... Weird.
I like the primary hull and the boxy nacelles, but that "Dorito Wedge" secondary hull has got to go.
Oh lordy, that's stuck in my head now..., it's the U.S.S. DORITO
<sad face>
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Yeah, it's totally a guess, but what (very) little we know so far... it fits.
As a side note, the NCC-1031: Space Shuttle Discovery had the designator OV-103.
'mercans:
Rest of us:
Soo.. this is a thing now... highly doubt we'll see it come STO's way any time soon... and before folks complain too much, consensus is that the folks drew inspiration off of some early phase II enterprise concepts... soo, yeah.
Klingon flavored.
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The Video in the original post isn't available in some countries so heres the one from the ComicCon YouTube channel that will play in UK / Europe
The Marrone-class will be the Engineering-focused version and look eerily similar to the Ambassador.
The Randall-class will be the Tactical-focused version and will have a trait that buffs FAW, and will generally be the one most players use because it will probably have like 5 tactical consoles.
The Ricossa-class will be the Science version but isn't quite sure what the starship will be, and will change it a year after release after stating that Cryptic wasn't sure what form the ship would take before selling it, sorry for the inconvenience.
Each carrier will come with a Hangar of Duguid-class Tacotical Fighters that will be stupid overpowered, but still suffer from poor AI and will blow up routinely from enemy warp core breaches.
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Then you haven't seen any of these
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/index.php
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-Star Trek: Is There in Truth No Beauty? (1968)
I also really, really hope that's very early CGI that was just put together at the last minute because it's just awful. When fan films like Axanar and others are beating the pants off an official production it's no wonder CBS is scared and suing.
Me? i'll play devils advocate on that part and postulate that some idiot decided to throw together a quick test render in order to make comicon.
The Design? horribly clumsy.. saucer then suddenly all these angles and a very flat profile. I mean if this discovery was a testbed for a particular set of engine specs? yeah i'll grant that.. but given that this ship is ALL WE KNOW about the new series? it doth not bode well..
and honestly even Drexler's proposed "NX-Refit" looked better than this. :B