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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    any chance for 5 tac console slot?
    On the Kolasi? Yeah, a big chance.

    On the Yamato or Kara though? Of course there's a CHANCE, however slim that may be, but it would make no sense on a Cruiser or Engineering-focused Warbird. If they had 5 Tac consoles, they'd HAVE TO have 5 Eng consoles, as per the dev's console rule. Then it'd have ONE Science console slot. And you could probably only get 5 Tac consoles from the fleet version... yeah, I don't see it happening at least.

    Question though. Not asking anyone else but those who want 5 Tac consoles on non-Tactical-focused ships: WHY would you want that or think it's even remotely plausible?
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    T6 scimitard will be the last T6 introduced, for obvious reasons.
    Probably in a three pack; Khukri (T6 Scimitar, and pardon my spelling if I have that wrong), Illiad (T6 Odyssey) and bortaS DIb (T6 Bortasqu', translates as "Right of Vengence") as a "Cross Faction T6 Flagships Bundle".
    I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they saved that for a '50th Anniversary' bundle.

    Anyway - hope they release the Dreadnought stats today...
    Yeah, flagships bundle, escorts bundle(T'Varo, B'Rel, Defiant), science ships(Ha'Nom, Nebula, Varanus).

    preferably not in that order. :p
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    alphahydri wrote: »
    Ummm, the Bortasqu' Tactical Cruiser has 5 Tactical console slots. So yes, there is a precedent, however unlikely, for a 5 Tac console Cruiser. I doubt it will happen on these ships, but one is allowed to dream, aren't they?
    Oh wow. Neat. =D
    reyan01 wrote: »
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    T6 scimitard will be the last T6 introduced, for obvious reasons.
    Probably in a three pack; Khukri (T6 Scimitar, and pardon my spelling if I have that wrong), Illiad (T6 Odyssey) and bortaS DIb (T6 Bortasqu', translates as "Right of Vengence") as a "Cross Faction T6 Flagships Bundle".
    I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they saved that for a '50th Anniversary' bundle.

    Anyway - hope they release the Dreadnought stats today...
    Yeah, flagships bundle, escorts bundle(T'Varo, B'Rel, Defiant), science ships(Ha'Nom, Nebula, Varanus).

    preferably not in that order. :p
    Only one is an Escort...?
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    orangeitis wrote: »
    alphahydri wrote: »
    Ummm, the Bortasqu' Tactical Cruiser has 5 Tactical console slots. So yes, there is a precedent, however unlikely, for a 5 Tac console Cruiser. I doubt it will happen on these ships, but one is allowed to dream, aren't they?
    Oh wow. Neat. =D
    reyan01 wrote: »
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    T6 scimitard will be the last T6 introduced, for obvious reasons.
    Probably in a three pack; Khukri (T6 Scimitar, and pardon my spelling if I have that wrong), Illiad (T6 Odyssey) and bortaS DIb (T6 Bortasqu', translates as "Right of Vengence") as a "Cross Faction T6 Flagships Bundle".
    I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they saved that for a '50th Anniversary' bundle.

    Anyway - hope they release the Dreadnought stats today...
    Yeah, flagships bundle, escorts bundle(T'Varo, B'Rel, Defiant), science ships(Ha'Nom, Nebula, Varanus).

    preferably not in that order. :p
    Only one is an Escort...?

    'Escort' can be a broad term when they want to make packs...

    Look at the "Pilot Escorts"; only three of the nine are actually 'Escorts', the other six are 'Warbirds' and 'Raptors', respectively.


    Sidenote;
    Kind of wonder what they will do for the Big 50 come September 8, 2016...
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  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    At least with the new Rom warbird, they've got an updated Ha'nom skin ready to go.
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    At least with the new Rom warbird, they've got an updated Ha'nom skin ready to go.

    And Ha'feh, for that matter...

    Personally, though, I always thought the Ha'feh and Ha'nom being the two seperate parts of the Ha'apax was... a rather cheap and uncreative way to get more ships out of a single design. I think I'll be real disappointed if they go that route a second time and give us Kara'feh and Kara'nom ships for future packs instead of coming up with something new.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • trillbuffettrillbuffet Member Posts: 861 Arc User
    I'm defiantly waiting........for the T6 Defiant.....

    Nice to see a T6 Nausicaan ship though.

    Yeah the defiant and bop are most likely going to be the last ships they spew out. I think with the playerbase as small as it is now based on DR and other stuff these ships they are putting out now are just to keep the lights on and cups stocked.
  • neogabi1neogabi1 Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    I'm definitely going to be buying this bundle when it comes out. It's great to see one of the non-Klingon KDF ships getting some t6 love and I'm glad the Kolasi is going to have some new, unique hanger pets to go with it.

    I'm a little concerned that our new KDF dreadnought is based off a small, fragile, non-cloaking ship though. Also that it most likely won't have any sort of console synergy or benefit from previous ship purchases. It just feels like we might be a bit under-gunned compared to the Yamato that will likely be able to equip the gazillion and one specialty consoles that the Galaxy variants have gotten over the years and Kara that will most likely have a good cloak and will be able to use at least the separation console.

    Will there be any sort of benefit to the javelin to help balance the fact that you have to enter siege mode, kill your maneuverability and charge up the lance to use it compared to the Fed and Romulan ship's built in lances?

    And no, this isn't a hate post. I'm going to buy the heck out of this when it goes live. =P
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    At least with the new Rom warbird, they've got an updated Ha'nom skin ready to go.

    And Ha'feh, for that matter...

    Personally, though, I always thought the Ha'feh and Ha'nom being the two seperate parts of the Ha'apax was... a rather cheap and uncreative way to get more ships out of a single design. I think I'll be real disappointed if they go that route a second time and give us Kara'feh and Kara'nom ships for future packs instead of coming up with something new.

    The Ha'feh and Ha'nom were a last moment creation. Originally, only the separating Ha'apax existed. So I'd say you are right.
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  • commander45689commander45689 Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    Thank you very much :smile:
    For those who bought the Vice Admiral version, do they get a free upgrade to t6?
    I am fan of the Galaxy class and Sovereign class. I like Federation cruisers.

    Hoping for a Yesterday's Enterprise Bundle

    My idea for the bundle :smile:
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1264100/yesterdays-enterprise-bundle-idea
  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    Thank you very much :smile:
    For those who bought the Vice Admiral version, do they get a free upgrade to t6?
    * sounds of mocking and derisive laughter *

    Oh wait, you were serious?

    Ahem. No, not a chance in aeriennye. Or Gre'thor. ;)
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  • seperatefactionseperatefaction Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    i wonder how hard would it be to allow access to the Andromeda skin for the dreadnoughts as well? I also wouldn't mind the command seat on the Kolasi Siege Destroyer. It would make using Concentrate Firepower and Overwhelm Emitters more friendly. Both of thous require the enemy to be in your foreward arc which is more likely with a faster turning ship like the Siege Destroyer
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    i wonder how hard would it be to allow access to the Andromeda skin for the dreadnoughts as well?

    Um... do you mean the two-nacelled/no lance skin? Because the Yamato T6 Dreadnought already is a three-nacelled/Lance-equipped version of the Andromeda...
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    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,671 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Question though. Not asking anyone else but those who want 5 Tac consoles on non-Tactical-focused ships: WHY would you want that or think it's even remotely plausible?

    More DPS. It won't be quite the force multiplier as it is for ships with higher Tac seating, but it'll get you through Queues faster. Also, due to how STO handles Threat, more damage is very helpful on those trying to Tank for their team, or just get Reciprocity to proc (which can effectively double your Tac BOff abilities in certain cases). As for plausibility... that went out the door quite some time ago with STO canon and ships versus Star Trek canon and ships.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    toiva wrote: »
    At least with the new Rom warbird, they've got an updated Ha'nom skin ready to go.
    And Ha'feh, for that matter...

    Personally, though, I always thought the Ha'feh and Ha'nom being the two seperate parts of the Ha'apax was... a rather cheap and uncreative way to get more ships out of a single design. I think I'll be real disappointed if they go that route a second time and give us Kara'feh and Kara'nom ships for future packs instead of coming up with something new.
    The Ha'feh and Ha'nom were a last moment creation. Originally, only the separating Ha'apax existed. So I'd say you are right.
    Meh, I'd rather have a T6 Ha'nom than no T6 science ship. :p
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  • jaturnleyjaturnley Member Posts: 1,218 Arc User
    lestral wrote: »
    Pretty... When I see these parsing 60K to 80K DPS in STF missions, I'll consider buying one. Otherwise, its just another money sink POS.

    The Kemocite bug is likely to be fixed in S11 (since it also affects the new torp ability from the Terran rep), so DPS numbers like those will be far less common.
  • furlong359furlong359 Member Posts: 146 Arc User
    Im still waiting for my t6 sovy. *hint hint* *wink wink*
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    furlong359 wrote: »
    Im still waiting for my t6 sovy. *hint hint* *wink wink*

    Hm... T6 Viceroy Assault Cruiser (Sovereign)/Plunder Flight Deck Cruiser (Orion FDC)/Pardek Warbird Science Vessel(science vessel, as seen in TNG: 'The Next Phase', given a 2410 update...)
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    Let's see if they are smart enough to release these as Fleet Equivalent out of the box like the Command Ships.

    Difference is I will spend $$$ if they do so my Alts can get theirs, but I will only spend $ (maybe even half $ waiting for a sale like I do with the rest of the Fleet bait) if they don't because Alts are mules.
  • narthaisnarthais Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    Let's see if they are smart enough to release these as Fleet Equivalent out of the box like the Command Ships.

    as these are not a new speciality design or a lockbox/event ship, the chances of the being fleet level out of the box is pretty close to 0
  • catoblepasbetacatoblepasbeta Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    It's great to see the Nausicaans getting some love. Particularly in the hanger pet environment-hopefully this means we can look forward to more Nausicaan/Gorn/Orion ships in the future-perhaps as flyable shuttles as well?

    Though I will admit, I didn't expect the Nausicaans to get a dreadnought with a hanger slot based off of the Garumba-I would have expected a Raveger Dreadnought or a reworked Talon Battleship, or an Orion ship-since they have that whole flight-deck cruiser theme going on already.
  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    Let's be honest with ourselves here, the Yamato will suck.
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  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    narthais wrote: »
    Let's see if they are smart enough to release these as Fleet Equivalent out of the box like the Command Ships.

    as these are not a new speciality design or a lockbox/event ship, the chances of the being fleet level out of the box is pretty close to 0

    To add to this, we aren't hearing about Tactical, Engineering and Science variants of these, so, yeah, pretty much 0 chance.
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  • delerouxdeleroux Member Posts: 478 Arc User
    Is the Kolasi an actual dreadnought, or merely a "flight deck" destroyer?
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    deleroux wrote: »
    Is the Kolasi an actual dreadnought, or merely a "flight deck" destroyer?

    I'm leaning toward the latter. If they choose to call it a dreadnought (clearly not a dreadnought cruiser, dreadnought carrier nor dreadnought science ship), they'd throw it kinda together with the only other tac based 1 hangar bay 'dreadnought': Scimitar line.

    And then the line would be kinda blurred between the Scimitar and any Flight-deck raptor/escort carrier.
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    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

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  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    I love the new Gal-X model, i am probably buying that. Still hoping for a T6 Sovereign though ( Any news on that Trendy?)

    Probably getting the Romulan ship too (and the Ha'apax for the console and skin (wish i could get it for less than 2500 zen)

    But why the Guramba? That thing is an Escort/Destroyer but no Dreadnought (a great ship though but totally wrong for a Dreadnought bundle). So many Options, Vo'Quv, Scourge, Balaur, Orion Warbarge, maybe a Freasan Dread (as stronger, more powerful counterpart to the more peaceful Caitian carrier) those are Dreadnoughts. THe Guramba should be released as a single ship, like the Ecxelsior or Hestia for the Feds.

    But at least its no Klingon design, i am still hoping for a T6 Orion Cruiser/FDC/Dreadnought (not an Escort)
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited October 2015

    Probably getting the Romulan ship too (and the Ha'apax for the console and skin (wish i could get it for less than 2500 zen)

    It's the Haakona that has the 'separation' console (and looks best of the Kara/Ha'Apax/Haakona offerings, imo). The Ha'Apax is a rank-up/dil ship with no console. Beware of needless purchase.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • highlander1979highlander1979 Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    I take we will have to wait until tomorrow for the stats (as of Tuesday, 6:54 PM EST)?
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  • schloopdooschloopdoo Member Posts: 373 Arc User
    Destroyer Carrier would be my bet. The Tier 6 Mogai's inclusion among the Avenger and Mogh Battlecruisers was asymmetrical, too, reflecting gaps that exist in the Romulan arsenal. The Dreadnought Bundle will be similar, a bundle of ships linked by their integrated beam superweapons more than any other feature of the respective ships.
  • loading159loading159 Member Posts: 184 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    CRYPTIC KNOWS HOW TO GET MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY FAVORITE SHIP EVER, PROMETHEUS, AND NOW A T6 DREADNOUGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

    LOOK OUT ALIENS, IV GOT NEW FANCY SHIPS!!!!!

    Just realized........................................I'm probably going to buy that new carrier too.

    -looks at wallet- "sorry wallet"
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