On the Yamato or Kara though? Of course there's a CHANCE, however slim that may be, but it would make no sense on a Cruiser or Engineering-focused Warbird. If they had 5 Tac consoles, they'd HAVE TO have 5 Eng consoles, as per the dev's console rule. Then it'd have ONE Science console slot. And you could probably only get 5 Tac consoles from the fleet version... yeah, I don't see it happening at least.
Question though. Not asking anyone else but those who want 5 Tac consoles on non-Tactical-focused ships: WHY would you want that or think it's even remotely plausible?
T6 scimitard will be the last T6 introduced, for obvious reasons.
Probably in a three pack; Khukri (T6 Scimitar, and pardon my spelling if I have that wrong), Illiad (T6 Odyssey) and bortaS DIb (T6 Bortasqu', translates as "Right of Vengence") as a "Cross Faction T6 Flagships Bundle".
I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they saved that for a '50th Anniversary' bundle.
Anyway - hope they release the Dreadnought stats today...
Ummm, the Bortasqu' Tactical Cruiser has 5 Tactical console slots. So yes, there is a precedent, however unlikely, for a 5 Tac console Cruiser. I doubt it will happen on these ships, but one is allowed to dream, aren't they?
T6 scimitard will be the last T6 introduced, for obvious reasons.
Probably in a three pack; Khukri (T6 Scimitar, and pardon my spelling if I have that wrong), Illiad (T6 Odyssey) and bortaS DIb (T6 Bortasqu', translates as "Right of Vengence") as a "Cross Faction T6 Flagships Bundle".
I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they saved that for a '50th Anniversary' bundle.
Anyway - hope they release the Dreadnought stats today...
Ummm, the Bortasqu' Tactical Cruiser has 5 Tactical console slots. So yes, there is a precedent, however unlikely, for a 5 Tac console Cruiser. I doubt it will happen on these ships, but one is allowed to dream, aren't they?
T6 scimitard will be the last T6 introduced, for obvious reasons.
Probably in a three pack; Khukri (T6 Scimitar, and pardon my spelling if I have that wrong), Illiad (T6 Odyssey) and bortaS DIb (T6 Bortasqu', translates as "Right of Vengence") as a "Cross Faction T6 Flagships Bundle".
I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they saved that for a '50th Anniversary' bundle.
Anyway - hope they release the Dreadnought stats today...
'Escort' can be a broad term when they want to make packs...
Look at the "Pilot Escorts"; only three of the nine are actually 'Escorts', the other six are 'Warbirds' and 'Raptors', respectively.
Sidenote;
Kind of wonder what they will do for the Big 50 come September 8, 2016...
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^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
At least with the new Rom warbird, they've got an updated Ha'nom skin ready to go.
And Ha'feh, for that matter...
Personally, though, I always thought the Ha'feh and Ha'nom being the two seperate parts of the Ha'apax was... a rather cheap and uncreative way to get more ships out of a single design. I think I'll be real disappointed if they go that route a second time and give us Kara'feh and Kara'nom ships for future packs instead of coming up with something new.
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^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
I'm defiantly waiting........for the T6 Defiant.....
Nice to see a T6 Nausicaan ship though.
Yeah the defiant and bop are most likely going to be the last ships they spew out. I think with the playerbase as small as it is now based on DR and other stuff these ships they are putting out now are just to keep the lights on and cups stocked.
I'm definitely going to be buying this bundle when it comes out. It's great to see one of the non-Klingon KDF ships getting some t6 love and I'm glad the Kolasi is going to have some new, unique hanger pets to go with it.
I'm a little concerned that our new KDF dreadnought is based off a small, fragile, non-cloaking ship though. Also that it most likely won't have any sort of console synergy or benefit from previous ship purchases. It just feels like we might be a bit under-gunned compared to the Yamato that will likely be able to equip the gazillion and one specialty consoles that the Galaxy variants have gotten over the years and Kara that will most likely have a good cloak and will be able to use at least the separation console.
Will there be any sort of benefit to the javelin to help balance the fact that you have to enter siege mode, kill your maneuverability and charge up the lance to use it compared to the Fed and Romulan ship's built in lances?
And no, this isn't a hate post. I'm going to buy the heck out of this when it goes live. =P
Indeed. The Kolasi comes equipped with Nausicaan Stinger Fighters. Improved versions of these fighters are available in the Dilithium and Fleet stores.
At least with the new Rom warbird, they've got an updated Ha'nom skin ready to go.
And Ha'feh, for that matter...
Personally, though, I always thought the Ha'feh and Ha'nom being the two seperate parts of the Ha'apax was... a rather cheap and uncreative way to get more ships out of a single design. I think I'll be real disappointed if they go that route a second time and give us Kara'feh and Kara'nom ships for future packs instead of coming up with something new.
The Ha'feh and Ha'nom were a last moment creation. Originally, only the separating Ha'apax existed. So I'd say you are right.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
i wonder how hard would it be to allow access to the Andromeda skin for the dreadnoughts as well? I also wouldn't mind the command seat on the Kolasi Siege Destroyer. It would make using Concentrate Firepower and Overwhelm Emitters more friendly. Both of thous require the enemy to be in your foreward arc which is more likely with a faster turning ship like the Siege Destroyer
i wonder how hard would it be to allow access to the Andromeda skin for the dreadnoughts as well?
Um... do you mean the two-nacelled/no lance skin? Because the Yamato T6 Dreadnought already is a three-nacelled/Lance-equipped version of the Andromeda...
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Question though. Not asking anyone else but those who want 5 Tac consoles on non-Tactical-focused ships: WHY would you want that or think it's even remotely plausible?
More DPS. It won't be quite the force multiplier as it is for ships with higher Tac seating, but it'll get you through Queues faster. Also, due to how STO handles Threat, more damage is very helpful on those trying to Tank for their team, or just get Reciprocity to proc (which can effectively double your Tac BOff abilities in certain cases). As for plausibility... that went out the door quite some time ago with STO canon and ships versus Star Trek canon and ships.
At least with the new Rom warbird, they've got an updated Ha'nom skin ready to go.
And Ha'feh, for that matter...
Personally, though, I always thought the Ha'feh and Ha'nom being the two seperate parts of the Ha'apax was... a rather cheap and uncreative way to get more ships out of a single design. I think I'll be real disappointed if they go that route a second time and give us Kara'feh and Kara'nom ships for future packs instead of coming up with something new.
The Ha'feh and Ha'nom were a last moment creation. Originally, only the separating Ha'apax existed. So I'd say you are right.
Meh, I'd rather have a T6 Ha'nom than no T6 science ship.
Pretty... When I see these parsing 60K to 80K DPS in STF missions, I'll consider buying one. Otherwise, its just another money sink POS.
The Kemocite bug is likely to be fixed in S11 (since it also affects the new torp ability from the Terran rep), so DPS numbers like those will be far less common.
Im still waiting for my t6 sovy. *hint hint* *wink wink*
Hm... T6 Viceroy Assault Cruiser (Sovereign)/Plunder Flight Deck Cruiser (Orion FDC)/Pardek Warbird Science Vessel(science vessel, as seen in TNG: 'The Next Phase', given a 2410 update...)
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^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Let's see if they are smart enough to release these as Fleet Equivalent out of the box like the Command Ships.
Difference is I will spend $$$ if they do so my Alts can get theirs, but I will only spend $ (maybe even half $ waiting for a sale like I do with the rest of the Fleet bait) if they don't because Alts are mules.
It's great to see the Nausicaans getting some love. Particularly in the hanger pet environment-hopefully this means we can look forward to more Nausicaan/Gorn/Orion ships in the future-perhaps as flyable shuttles as well?
Though I will admit, I didn't expect the Nausicaans to get a dreadnought with a hanger slot based off of the Garumba-I would have expected a Raveger Dreadnought or a reworked Talon Battleship, or an Orion ship-since they have that whole flight-deck cruiser theme going on already.
Is the Kolasi an actual dreadnought, or merely a "flight deck" destroyer?
I'm leaning toward the latter. If they choose to call it a dreadnought (clearly not a dreadnought cruiser, dreadnought carrier nor dreadnought science ship), they'd throw it kinda together with the only other tac based 1 hangar bay 'dreadnought': Scimitar line.
And then the line would be kinda blurred between the Scimitar and any Flight-deck raptor/escort carrier.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
I love the new Gal-X model, i am probably buying that. Still hoping for a T6 Sovereign though ( Any news on that Trendy?)
Probably getting the Romulan ship too (and the Ha'apax for the console and skin (wish i could get it for less than 2500 zen)
But why the Guramba? That thing is an Escort/Destroyer but no Dreadnought (a great ship though but totally wrong for a Dreadnought bundle). So many Options, Vo'Quv, Scourge, Balaur, Orion Warbarge, maybe a Freasan Dread (as stronger, more powerful counterpart to the more peaceful Caitian carrier) those are Dreadnoughts. THe Guramba should be released as a single ship, like the Ecxelsior or Hestia for the Feds.
But at least its no Klingon design, i am still hoping for a T6 Orion Cruiser/FDC/Dreadnought (not an Escort)
Probably getting the Romulan ship too (and the Ha'apax for the console and skin (wish i could get it for less than 2500 zen)
It's the Haakona that has the 'separation' console (and looks best of the Kara/Ha'Apax/Haakona offerings, imo). The Ha'Apax is a rank-up/dil ship with no console. Beware of needless purchase.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Destroyer Carrier would be my bet. The Tier 6 Mogai's inclusion among the Avenger and Mogh Battlecruisers was asymmetrical, too, reflecting gaps that exist in the Romulan arsenal. The Dreadnought Bundle will be similar, a bundle of ships linked by their integrated beam superweapons more than any other feature of the respective ships.
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On the Yamato or Kara though? Of course there's a CHANCE, however slim that may be, but it would make no sense on a Cruiser or Engineering-focused Warbird. If they had 5 Tac consoles, they'd HAVE TO have 5 Eng consoles, as per the dev's console rule. Then it'd have ONE Science console slot. And you could probably only get 5 Tac consoles from the fleet version... yeah, I don't see it happening at least.
Question though. Not asking anyone else but those who want 5 Tac consoles on non-Tactical-focused ships: WHY would you want that or think it's even remotely plausible?
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'Escort' can be a broad term when they want to make packs...
Look at the "Pilot Escorts"; only three of the nine are actually 'Escorts', the other six are 'Warbirds' and 'Raptors', respectively.
Sidenote;
Kind of wonder what they will do for the Big 50 come September 8, 2016...
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
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And Ha'feh, for that matter...
Personally, though, I always thought the Ha'feh and Ha'nom being the two seperate parts of the Ha'apax was... a rather cheap and uncreative way to get more ships out of a single design. I think I'll be real disappointed if they go that route a second time and give us Kara'feh and Kara'nom ships for future packs instead of coming up with something new.
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Yeah the defiant and bop are most likely going to be the last ships they spew out. I think with the playerbase as small as it is now based on DR and other stuff these ships they are putting out now are just to keep the lights on and cups stocked.
I'm a little concerned that our new KDF dreadnought is based off a small, fragile, non-cloaking ship though. Also that it most likely won't have any sort of console synergy or benefit from previous ship purchases. It just feels like we might be a bit under-gunned compared to the Yamato that will likely be able to equip the gazillion and one specialty consoles that the Galaxy variants have gotten over the years and Kara that will most likely have a good cloak and will be able to use at least the separation console.
Will there be any sort of benefit to the javelin to help balance the fact that you have to enter siege mode, kill your maneuverability and charge up the lance to use it compared to the Fed and Romulan ship's built in lances?
And no, this isn't a hate post. I'm going to buy the heck out of this when it goes live. =P
The Ha'feh and Ha'nom were a last moment creation. Originally, only the separating Ha'apax existed. So I'd say you are right.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
For those who bought the Vice Admiral version, do they get a free upgrade to t6?
Hoping for a Yesterday's Enterprise Bundle
My idea for the bundle
https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1264100/yesterdays-enterprise-bundle-idea
Oh wait, you were serious?
Ahem. No, not a chance in aeriennye. Or Gre'thor.
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Um... do you mean the two-nacelled/no lance skin? Because the Yamato T6 Dreadnought already is a three-nacelled/Lance-equipped version of the Andromeda...
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
More DPS. It won't be quite the force multiplier as it is for ships with higher Tac seating, but it'll get you through Queues faster. Also, due to how STO handles Threat, more damage is very helpful on those trying to Tank for their team, or just get Reciprocity to proc (which can effectively double your Tac BOff abilities in certain cases). As for plausibility... that went out the door quite some time ago with STO canon and ships versus Star Trek canon and ships.
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The Kemocite bug is likely to be fixed in S11 (since it also affects the new torp ability from the Terran rep), so DPS numbers like those will be far less common.
Hm... T6 Viceroy Assault Cruiser (Sovereign)/Plunder Flight Deck Cruiser (Orion FDC)/Pardek Warbird Science Vessel(science vessel, as seen in TNG: 'The Next Phase', given a 2410 update...)
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Difference is I will spend $$$ if they do so my Alts can get theirs, but I will only spend $ (maybe even half $ waiting for a sale like I do with the rest of the Fleet bait) if they don't because Alts are mules.
as these are not a new speciality design or a lockbox/event ship, the chances of the being fleet level out of the box is pretty close to 0
Though I will admit, I didn't expect the Nausicaans to get a dreadnought with a hanger slot based off of the Garumba-I would have expected a Raveger Dreadnought or a reworked Talon Battleship, or an Orion ship-since they have that whole flight-deck cruiser theme going on already.
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To add to this, we aren't hearing about Tactical, Engineering and Science variants of these, so, yeah, pretty much 0 chance.
I'm leaning toward the latter. If they choose to call it a dreadnought (clearly not a dreadnought cruiser, dreadnought carrier nor dreadnought science ship), they'd throw it kinda together with the only other tac based 1 hangar bay 'dreadnought': Scimitar line.
And then the line would be kinda blurred between the Scimitar and any Flight-deck raptor/escort carrier.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
Probably getting the Romulan ship too (and the Ha'apax for the console and skin (wish i could get it for less than 2500 zen)
But why the Guramba? That thing is an Escort/Destroyer but no Dreadnought (a great ship though but totally wrong for a Dreadnought bundle). So many Options, Vo'Quv, Scourge, Balaur, Orion Warbarge, maybe a Freasan Dread (as stronger, more powerful counterpart to the more peaceful Caitian carrier) those are Dreadnoughts. THe Guramba should be released as a single ship, like the Ecxelsior or Hestia for the Feds.
But at least its no Klingon design, i am still hoping for a T6 Orion Cruiser/FDC/Dreadnought (not an Escort)
It's the Haakona that has the 'separation' console (and looks best of the Kara/Ha'Apax/Haakona offerings, imo). The Ha'Apax is a rank-up/dil ship with no console. Beware of needless purchase.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
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Just realized........................................I'm probably going to buy that new carrier too.
-looks at wallet- "sorry wallet"