I actually kind of tuned out of Doctor Who during Matt Smith's run. Eccleston will always be "my doctor", and Tenant grew on me eventually, but when Matt Smith came around, I just faded out. But Capaldi's doctor has drawn me back in in a big way.
All time, my doctor preference ranking goes: 9, 7, 12, 1, 10, 2, 5, 8, 3, 11, 4, 6.
It's certainly interesting to hear people's differing opinions on the Doctors... I loved Matt Smith's Doctor, and also Rory and Amy.
11 was fine, most were fine, I don't believe I dislike any per say, just 11 isn't as good as most of them.
3 (simply the best), 6 (ignore the coat even if most can't), 12 (but not his stories), 8 (for all two of his appearances ), 7 (in his mastermind phase, but not before), 1 (the grumpy old sod), 10 (but not his sulky phase), 11 (just okay), 2 (alternates with 11 depending on how I'm feeling), 4 (I know, I know), 9 (ignoring his costume, or lack of), 5 (like beige made person, sorry Peter), 7 (his comical phase), War (not because I dislike him but because he's only appeared once).
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I loved the first episode of the new season. Intriguing at the begining, kinda pointless in the middle (but with some pretty good guitar solos), and awesome in the last 10 or 15 minutes. Then ep 2 came along.
'I knew what you were going to do and I let you do it!'
I loved the first episode of the new season. Intriguing at the begining, kinda pointless in the middle (but with some pretty good guitar solos), and awesome in the last 10 or 15 minutes. Then ep 2 came along.
'I knew what you were going to do and I let you do it!'
I feel kind of cheated.
Oh buck me, YES - haven't I commented on this one? It's like Moffat writing like a five-year-old because his character can't lose. Such an anticlimactic heap of deluvian musk bull dung. I'll comment on other things later, but I had to say that.
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"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I'll elaborate later but that was the best episode since The Mummy one, I can't think of a single bit that made me annoyed.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I'll elaborate later but that was the best episode since The Mummy one, I can't think of a single bit that made me annoyed.
Agreed. Best episode I've seen in a long time. Just hope part 2 doesn't let it down.
Oh, and I'm calling it:
the Doctor's body is in that pod, kept in stasis so that he can be revived at a later time (after he's done experiencing being a 'ghost').
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Is anyone else starting to feel that we need a more skeptical and cowardly regular companion? I'm starting to get bored of companions who aren't in the least bit wary of the dangers they face. I liked the scientist who was torn between investigating and running for the hills a lot more than I liked Clara in this ep.
I loved all of the guest stars in this episode and would pick any of them over Clara if I had a choice. I also had the same thought about the pod.
Thoughts added to the first post (see them here in the spoiler text).
Episode 3 : Under the Lake
Bloody Fantastic.
Even before any thoughts on the episodes I'd like to point out the pacing, this is what episode 1 of 2 parter should feel like.
The explanation of the repeated phrase didn't make me want to scream.
Toby Whitehouse wrote this, he also wrote 'The God Complex' another great episode (though I suspect Moffat got his mits on parts of that)
The mole people are back, and thankfully not played by David can't-spell-or-pronounce Williams.
The ghosts were genuinely creepy.
Their weakness to the shielding room was well thought out, as was trapping them in there.
I loved the guest stars, all of them.
Clara was less obnoxious than usual.
The stasis box has to be the Doctor.
Can't the Doctor use the key and battery method of summoning the TARDIS to him as in 'Fathers Day'?
The 22nd century people know of the Doctor? Wasn't he erased from everything? Is Moffat forgetting his own plot points? We can but dream.
The only bad thing IMO...
I didn't like the apology cards. Six would't have used them, he was better than everybody around him and saw no reason to hide it.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
The cards I see as something Clara's made and he only does it to stop her complaining at him that he's being insensitive. And only the Daleks lost all trace of him from everything, didn't they? Though they did get it all back. Everyone else just thought he died so he could go quiet. Obviously Twelve doesn't give two hoots about being quiet. I like that UNIT is still active 100 years from now and they just accept the Doctor's authority without any question still.
This felt alot like old school Troughten eps. Trapped in a base under seige. As Troughton is my favourite Doctor, this is only a plus. The ghosts were well done, the explainations all made sense (faraday cage protecting them, ghosts only coming out when all the electrically powered locks went offline, only being able to grab metal things, ie stuff that conducts electricity. That's got to play into their eventual defeat.) One thing though... if the 3 ghosts were trapped in teh cage, who shunted the base onto Nightshift? Doctor ghost? Or something else...
Overall, I'm liking Twelve and I really enjoyed that episdoe. In fact, the only negative I have is the blasted Sonic Sunglasses came back.
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Possibly a coincidence, but did anyone else notice that the serial number on one the doors (when Clara was running from the ghost, and hid around the corner just as it shut behind her) was "1701B".
And only the Daleks lost all trace of him from everything, didn't they? Though they did get it all back. Everyone else just thought he died so he could go quiet. Obviously Twelve doesn't give two hoots about being quiet.
I can't remember that far back without a re-watch, but I'm sure 11 tried to go anonymous. It's possible that was blown by UNIT in 'Day of the Doctor'.
In fact, the only negative I have is the blasted Sonic Sunglasses came back.
I preferred their use here as they worked as screens in a way the SS would't have been able to. I still want them to go (or appear when necessary) and get a new model of the SS back.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Possibly a coincidence, but did anyone else notice that the serial number on one the doors (when Clara was running from the ghost, and hid around the corner just as it shut behind her) was "1701B".
Doubtful it was a coincidence.
Though I thought the entire time that the space ship looked like a Star Trek Shuttle, except it had marine propelles instead of warp nacelles. ß
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and I'm loving the Deaf person not being played in an audism way
I also like the fact that it wasn't even mentioned other than her signer mentioning that's what he was onboard for.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Last year, we started a separate thread for each episode. Maybe that'd be a better idea? It'd certainly work better for me, because I watch the Friday repeats - the Saturday showing clashes with something else for me - so if I don't want to find out what happens, I can only read this thread on Saturdays!
"I knew it was a trick all along"... yes, that is a bit of a cop-out; it would mean that all that fencing with Davros was just a put-on. It also doesn't make sense. How could the Doctor know that Clara and the Master would get there in time? There must be a limit, even for a Time Lord - and I'd have imagined that it would be less than the amount that can be absorbed by billions of Daleks. Albeit Daleks (the octopy part) aren't very big. We all know the Master is never dead, and the Doctor must realise that too, but he's often been dead enough to be out of the game for a while.
The only explanation really is that the Doctor was lying.
Thinking about it, everyone ended up getting what they wanted in episode 2, didn't they? Davros got the Doctor to save his life. The Doctor didn't die, or leave the Daleks clearly better off than when they started. Missy saved the Doctor. Missy and the Doctor both got to fire Dalek guns. Young Davros got out of the minefield. Clara saw the back of Missy, which was probably her main ambition by then. Missy didn't get to kill Clara, but you can't have everything, even if you're a Time Lady, don't be greedy Missy. Everyone got what they wanted for Christmas, except the Daleks, but they never do, poor things.
That was rather Dungeons and Dragons behaviour from Missy, wasn't it? We're lost in an underground tunnel surrounded by monsters. OK, the first thing to do is to kill ourselves a monster to get some armour. And I'm going to do it with melee weapons only because when you're Level 100 it gets boring otherwise.
By the way, a couple of questions about episode 1. What was the question a Dalek would never ask? Why it was fighting, maybe? I didn't catch it. And what was the third thing the Master said about the Doctor? I can remember "Since he was a little girl. Since he stole the moon and the President's wife", but the third one's slipped my mind altogether, except that it was a humdinger. (And, coming from that source, probably an entirely fictional one anyway. But I'm still curious to know - it's hard to think how you'd top those other two.) If you know the answer please PM me, as I won't be reading the thread, or at least, not before Saturday!
I always like the Ponds as people, I just didn't like their relationship, Amy was too much of a bully.
Nothing about her made any sense, from the very beginning I didn't feel that "she's the most important person ever" at all. The two had a great behind-the-scenes chemistry, but in front of the camera they had nothing going. And Rory was... yeah, Rory.
I dislike their relationship even more than the Ponds, Jenny is an actual servant in this case. Something just grates me about her being her wife and maid.
That bit is even a topic, Jenny being the maid is just a play because neither being TRIBBLE nor being with an alien would be taken kindly. The fact she actually performs chores even with friends presents was charmingly touched upon in my opinion. Vastra is a good bit arrogant and aloof from the others which however isn't all that surprising considering who and what she is. But their relationship doesn't come off as forced at all. They're charming and most importantly their sexuality isn't what they are, it's a subtle part of them. It's the kind of depiction of homosexual characters I'd like to see more of, not the kind whose sole defining characteristic are sexual stereotypes or being a token appearance.
He's trying to take what was good because it was cleaver and different and make it convoluted and routine. So the exact opposite.
I meant the above, but what you point out holds true as well. As a show runner he sucks big time.
Which is also reflected in the recent episode. Not written by Moffat and it's instantly better. Just better. It has a flow, it has a mystery, it has the Doctor like we know and like him, Clara like we know and like her and the suspense was genuine and not forced. Of course we know
that the Doctor didn't die
but in this case it's done like it was in the old series' and builds genuine suspense and curiosity. Aside from the sunglasses, which serve a purpose this time, not much I didn't like about it.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Six would't have used them, he was better than everybody around him and saw no reason to hide it.
The fact that he saw no reason to practice humility was one of the biggest flaws in #6. He didn't show the capacity for development and growth that #12 is embracing- even if he's having trouble doing so.
Overall, I'm liking Twelve and I really enjoyed that episdoe. In fact, the only negative I have is the blasted Sonic Sunglasses came back.
I dig them. I'm all for the shakeup. I see the sonic sunglasses being more versitile. They're more inconspicuous, they can better show visual data, they can be used for augmenting the visual specturm like Geordie's visor, and they can still do everything the screwdriver did. True upgrade.
And they're cool glasses too... like Roy Orbisons!
I dig them. I'm all for the shakeup. I see the sonic sunglasses being more versitile. They're more inconspicuous, they can better show visual data, they can be used for augmenting the visual specturm like Geordie's visor, and they can still do everything the screwdriver did. True upgrade.
And they're cool glasses too... like Roy Orbisons!
But the SS had a "psychic interface", didn't it? So you already could "see" with it - well, let's be honest, it could do anything and everything already
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Six would't have used them, he was better than everybody around him and saw no reason to hide it.
The fact that he saw no reason to practice humility was one of the biggest flaws in #6. He didn't show the capacity for development and growth that #12 is embracing- even if he's having trouble doing so.
There was one single flaw with 6 and that was his coat. His arrogance was lovely, it flowed nicely from 3 and 4 and (by the end) into 10.
3 and 6 are so close in my head as the 'best' Doctor, the only thing 3 has that edges out 6 is his sodding awesome frilly dress sense.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I'm fine with the sunglasses being used as a camera and a screen. But they shouldn't take the full place of the screwdriver. For starters, where's all the tech? And please don't say It's bigger on the inside. I know it's sci fi but those glasses are just the frames. There's no where for any kind of tech to go. If they were thick, or had a bit of tech detailing in them, ok, fair enough. But they don't. So this has become a sticking point for me, regardless how stupid a point it may be.
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Hi Grylak! I like seeing the sonic sunglasses, simply because it was such an inspired punchline in episode 2 - we'd had a very bad day and that made us all laugh like drains; and every time I see them it reminds me of that. I agree though, it probably wouldn't really work as a permanent thing - as you say, they just don't look like a gadget. Camera, OK, I can believe (a camera that small isn't even that far from what's possible now); spare key for the Tardis, OK; but not as a general thing. Someone seeing them for the first time would always have to have it explained to them that this is a disguised gadget, and that seems clumsy. I don't mind the joke carrying on a bit longer though. I can't imagine how the Doctor would have forgotten to ask Little Davros for his screwdriver back - I suspect it's just that Capaldi is having too much fun dressing the Doctor up as a rock star to give up the sonic sunglasses just yet
Yes, Clara is getting a little silly. Especially considering that she's just had an extremely thorough crash course in What Happens When You Meet Something Completely Out Of Your League. The way she's behaving makes me sort of expect something to happen to make her pause for thought, but if the experience of teaming up with Missy hasn't already done that, then it's hard to imagine what could.
There really was everything but the kitchen sink in episode 3, wasn't there? But it was great fun. I keep hearing sudden outbursts of laughter around the house, every time my mum remembers about the flash cards
(Yes, this obviously isn't the Doctor's idea - it looks like Clara's been giving him lessons in how to speak human, and that was an "Oi. You. We've TALKED about this." It doesn't make sense that he doesn't already know how to say something like that, since some of the previous Doctors have been far less Aspish than this one, but we know he lost a chunk of his memory when he regenerated and maybe he hasn't got it all back. Probably hasn't tried - Number 12 seems to have extremely little time for the weird habits of humans.)
Speaking of "too small to be a gadget", Missy's firepower is getting so implausible that it's becoming hard to take seriously. (I mean, it seems like we're supposed to take Missy seriously SOME of the time...) In episode 1, she put the whole of Earth's atmosphere into a different time speed from the rest of Earth, seemingly using only what she had in her pockets. Time Lords are OP, but they aren't wizards - they use technology, they don't have some kind of inborn mystical powers over time, they don't just do it by being ancient and powerful beings and snapping their fingers (though it looks, from episode 2, as if they might have the wattage to do so if they only knew how). There had to be some kind of technology and something to power it off. Seems to me there are four ways you can take that:
1) Scratch that, Missy HAS found a way of powering things off her own magic. (Unlikely, the implication is that that would be a highly dangerous thing to do; she's mad enough for anything but I don't think she'd risk her nice new face. She worked hard for those extra regenerations.)
2) Time Lord magic, Missy does indeed have a planet-scale power source in her pocket. (Unsatisfying because too handwavy for anyone to guess.)
3) Time Lord magic, there's a way of doing what she did with only a small amount of energy if your physics is sufficiently advanced. (Unsatisfying because ditto.)
4) Missy is holding out on us and has either a ship in orbit or a base on Earth that UNIT missed.
Time Lord tech is like magic though. Rassalons tomb turns people to stone they can regenerate, use black holes as batteries, build suns into their TARDIS'. Also remember the Vortex Manipulator or the Time Ring, portable time travel. The Masters gadgets seem like fairly standard Time Lord tech.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Missy time freezing the planes I have no problem with. I figure she's got her own TARDIS stashed away somewhere with a working chameleon circuit and she was just using a remote to turn off something in her TARDIS which unfroze the planes. After all, she was pulling dead people from the Doctor's timeline so we know she has some method of time travel. Because I don't think her vortex manipulator could handle that.
And I just view this Doctor not as having forgotten how to talk to humans. He's just a bit more flippant and arrogant, like Six was. He's not forgotten, he just doesn't care in this incarnation.
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And I just view this Doctor not as having forgotten how to talk to humans. He's just a bit more flippant and arrogant, like Six was. He's not forgotten, he just doesn't care in this incarnation.
And that's part of what makes him awesome.
On another note 4 mins to go.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Before the Flood, one of the creepier episodes, though not as good as part one
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
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All time, my doctor preference ranking goes:
9, 7, 12, 1, 10, 2, 5, 8, 3, 11, 4, 6.
11 was fine, most were fine, I don't believe I dislike any per say, just 11 isn't as good as most of them.
3 (simply the best), 6 (ignore the coat even if most can't), 12 (but not his stories), 8 (for all two of his appearances
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I feel kind of cheated.
Oh buck me, YES - haven't I commented on this one? It's like Moffat writing like a five-year-old because his character can't lose. Such an anticlimactic heap of deluvian musk bull dung. I'll comment on other things later, but I had to say that.
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Loved it too, and that cliffhanger
Agreed. Best episode I've seen in a long time. Just hope part 2 doesn't let it down.
Oh, and I'm calling it:
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Is anyone else starting to feel that we need a more skeptical and cowardly regular companion? I'm starting to get bored of companions who aren't in the least bit wary of the dangers they face. I liked the scientist who was torn between investigating and running for the hills a lot more than I liked Clara in this ep.
Thoughts added to the first post (see them here in the spoiler text).
Bloody Fantastic.
The only bad thing IMO...
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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This felt alot like old school Troughten eps. Trapped in a base under seige. As Troughton is my favourite Doctor, this is only a plus. The ghosts were well done, the explainations all made sense (faraday cage protecting them, ghosts only coming out when all the electrically powered locks went offline, only being able to grab metal things, ie stuff that conducts electricity. That's got to play into their eventual defeat.) One thing though... if the 3 ghosts were trapped in teh cage, who shunted the base onto Nightshift? Doctor ghost? Or something else...
Overall, I'm liking Twelve and I really enjoyed that episdoe. In fact, the only negative I have is the blasted Sonic Sunglasses came back.
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Similar to Mel trying to put 6 on a diet I suppose then.
I can't remember that far back without a re-watch, but I'm sure 11 tried to go anonymous. It's possible that was blown by UNIT in 'Day of the Doctor'.
Yes! I saw some recently, still stand on their own today.
I preferred their use here as they worked as screens in a way the SS would't have been able to. I still want them to go (or appear when necessary) and get a new model of the SS back.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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Though I thought the entire time that the space ship looked like a Star Trek Shuttle, except it had marine propelles instead of warp nacelles. ß
I want the screwdriver back... and I'm loving the Deaf person not being played in an audism way
I also like the fact that it wasn't even mentioned other than her signer mentioning that's what he was onboard for.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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"I knew it was a trick all along"... yes, that is a bit of a cop-out; it would mean that all that fencing with Davros was just a put-on. It also doesn't make sense. How could the Doctor know that Clara and the Master would get there in time? There must be a limit, even for a Time Lord - and I'd have imagined that it would be less than the amount that can be absorbed by billions of Daleks. Albeit Daleks (the octopy part) aren't very big. We all know the Master is never dead, and the Doctor must realise that too, but he's often been dead enough to be out of the game for a while.
The only explanation really is that the Doctor was lying.
Thinking about it, everyone ended up getting what they wanted in episode 2, didn't they? Davros got the Doctor to save his life. The Doctor didn't die, or leave the Daleks clearly better off than when they started. Missy saved the Doctor. Missy and the Doctor both got to fire Dalek guns. Young Davros got out of the minefield. Clara saw the back of Missy, which was probably her main ambition by then. Missy didn't get to kill Clara, but you can't have everything, even if you're a Time Lady, don't be greedy Missy. Everyone got what they wanted for Christmas, except the Daleks, but they never do, poor things.
That was rather Dungeons and Dragons behaviour from Missy, wasn't it? We're lost in an underground tunnel surrounded by monsters. OK, the first thing to do is to kill ourselves a monster to get some armour. And I'm going to do it with melee weapons only because when you're Level 100 it gets boring otherwise.
By the way, a couple of questions about episode 1. What was the question a Dalek would never ask? Why it was fighting, maybe? I didn't catch it. And what was the third thing the Master said about the Doctor? I can remember "Since he was a little girl. Since he stole the moon and the President's wife", but the third one's slipped my mind altogether, except that it was a humdinger. (And, coming from that source, probably an entirely fictional one anyway. But I'm still curious to know - it's hard to think how you'd top those other two.) If you know the answer please PM me, as I won't be reading the thread, or at least, not before Saturday!
Nothing about her made any sense, from the very beginning I didn't feel that "she's the most important person ever" at all. The two had a great behind-the-scenes chemistry, but in front of the camera they had nothing going. And Rory was... yeah, Rory.
That bit is even a topic, Jenny being the maid is just a play because neither being TRIBBLE nor being with an alien would be taken kindly. The fact she actually performs chores even with friends presents was charmingly touched upon in my opinion. Vastra is a good bit arrogant and aloof from the others which however isn't all that surprising considering who and what she is. But their relationship doesn't come off as forced at all. They're charming and most importantly their sexuality isn't what they are, it's a subtle part of them. It's the kind of depiction of homosexual characters I'd like to see more of, not the kind whose sole defining characteristic are sexual stereotypes or being a token appearance.
I meant the above, but what you point out holds true as well. As a show runner he sucks big time.
Which is also reflected in the recent episode. Not written by Moffat and it's instantly better. Just better. It has a flow, it has a mystery, it has the Doctor like we know and like him, Clara like we know and like her and the suspense was genuine and not forced. Of course we know
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The fact that he saw no reason to practice humility was one of the biggest flaws in #6. He didn't show the capacity for development and growth that #12 is embracing- even if he's having trouble doing so.
I dig them. I'm all for the shakeup. I see the sonic sunglasses being more versitile. They're more inconspicuous, they can better show visual data, they can be used for augmenting the visual specturm like Geordie's visor, and they can still do everything the screwdriver did. True upgrade.
And they're cool glasses too... like Roy Orbisons!
But the SS had a "psychic interface", didn't it? So you already could "see" with it - well, let's be honest, it could do anything and everything already
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There was one single flaw with 6 and that was his coat. His arrogance was lovely, it flowed nicely from 3 and 4 and (by the end) into 10.
3 and 6 are so close in my head as the 'best' Doctor, the only thing 3 has that edges out 6 is his sodding awesome frilly dress sense.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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A Romulan Strike Team, Missing Farmers and an ancient base on a Klingon Border world. But what connects them? Find out in my First Foundary mission: 'The Jeroan Farmer Escapade'
Yes, Clara is getting a little silly. Especially considering that she's just had an extremely thorough crash course in What Happens When You Meet Something Completely Out Of Your League. The way she's behaving makes me sort of expect something to happen to make her pause for thought, but if the experience of teaming up with Missy hasn't already done that, then it's hard to imagine what could.
There really was everything but the kitchen sink in episode 3, wasn't there? But it was great fun. I keep hearing sudden outbursts of laughter around the house, every time my mum remembers about the flash cards
(Yes, this obviously isn't the Doctor's idea - it looks like Clara's been giving him lessons in how to speak human, and that was an "Oi. You. We've TALKED about this." It doesn't make sense that he doesn't already know how to say something like that, since some of the previous Doctors have been far less Aspish than this one, but we know he lost a chunk of his memory when he regenerated and maybe he hasn't got it all back. Probably hasn't tried - Number 12 seems to have extremely little time for the weird habits of humans.)
1) Scratch that, Missy HAS found a way of powering things off her own magic. (Unlikely, the implication is that that would be a highly dangerous thing to do; she's mad enough for anything but I don't think she'd risk her nice new face. She worked hard for those extra regenerations.)
2) Time Lord magic, Missy does indeed have a planet-scale power source in her pocket. (Unsatisfying because too handwavy for anyone to guess.)
3) Time Lord magic, there's a way of doing what she did with only a small amount of energy if your physics is sufficiently advanced. (Unsatisfying because ditto.)
4) Missy is holding out on us and has either a ship in orbit or a base on Earth that UNIT missed.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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And I just view this Doctor not as having forgotten how to talk to humans. He's just a bit more flippant and arrogant, like Six was. He's not forgotten, he just doesn't care in this incarnation.
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And that's part of what makes him awesome.
On another note 4 mins to go.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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