It was a rather nice finale for Clara and yes, Targ tears have been shed
However, as basically every time a Moffat episode was show this year, it really falls apart the more I think about it and it doesn't help that I really, really dislike Maisie Williams' appearance on the show. Her character just doesn't make sense. So she her character is immortal due to a field med-pack issued to Mire warriors by default - shouldn't all of them be able to outlive time now? Yes I know they can still die, but that she survives everything until the end of time (weren't we at the time already, by the way? At least once? I know Moffat wiped everything prior to series 5 from canon or something with his stupid nonsense but still). I really didn't get the impression that she was so special in the first place. Her whole appearance just seems to be "Woo! We got Maisie Williams!" - it doesn't help that inr eality, ratings declined and the BBC is rumoured to actually think about reducing the doctor to a four episode sherlock-esque series and the next doctor will be a young guy for the teens to marvel at again, so they thought bringing Mrs. Williams in the mix will save them. Well, meh.
Yes, seeing the classic TARDIS was a very nice retro-touch. I'm not thrilled to see River returning, but that's me being biased. I basically hate everything with a few exceptions that happened during Smith's Doctor to the degree that I actually wanted to stop watching at all. I'm glad I didn't do that since Capaldi's Doctor and Jenna Coleman's companion were a brilliant team up and Clara really grew up becoming the first (in my opinion) companion with a strong independent presence instead of just being "the companion", maybe next to Rose and Martha (the latter however suffered greatly from the unnecessary love interest plot). I can't say much about the classic companions as me and my wife just watched the first doctor (Still a shame Susan was never mentioned in the "next gen" series) and never got around to watch more than a few episodes of the rest, but yeah. We loved clara
And an entire series without the pater noster gang? Really? The only thing show runner Moffat brought us which was good?
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I thought she just said she couldn't get the chameleon circuit working, not that it was broken. Honestly, I thought it was a nice send off for Clara. I'm satisfied that although it took away from her emotional goodbye, the fact it was Time Lord Tech that did it means I can justify. If they didn't go to Gallifrey, I would have been very upset. Overall, I liked the episode. And yes, I was half expecting some Toclafane to pop up as they are around at the end of the Universe. In fact, I thoroughly enjoyed that. The only thing that annoyed me was the General getting shot and regenerating for two reasons: We lost that awesome actor and was replaced by someone with very little screen presence, and Moffat used it to do another gender changing regeneration. I don't know why, but that whole concept is really bugging me. Oh, yeah, and it shows the Doctor is ok with forcing a Time Lord to use up a regeneration. But he was completely unhinged at that point. Although I wouldn't have done anything with Rassilon. There was no point in him being there, they should have just left it vague with him having dissapeared after his End Of Time plot failed so bring him back at some point in the future properly. Although yey, Gallifrey is now back in the sky.
YEY SCREWDRIVER is back!!!
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I would have exploded with joy if the Doctor had kept that console room (or even that TARDIS) for a bit.
But I just think he does.
Lets say in a few millennia Clara decides it's time for her to die, so she parks the TARDIS she stole back on Galifray goes and grabs some red robes then bobs back down to the place she stored it originally and redirects the First Doctor and Susan to take it instead of the one they were initially going for.
Whilst I do really like this theory, I can see two possible reason that this might not be the case.
A: The Doctor's Tardis has been noted, numerous times, as being an older, obsolete model. I didn't get the impression that the new, stolen, Tardis was anything other than a new model.
B: It doesn't seem very much like either Ashildr or Clara would be willing to give it up. And even when Clara finally decides that she needs to return to the moment of her death, Ashildr will probably want to keep it.
Although to be fair, in contradiction of the above, Ashildr's reference to the chameleon curcuit being broken might support your theory. Although it could equally be taken as an indication that Tardis chameleon circuits are unreliable in general.
It isn't old yet is all I can think of for that bit. I also don't think Clara will allow Me to keep it. Also, the Doctors TARDIS is the only one ever shown with a broken CC.
However, as basically every time a Moffat episode was show this year, it really falls apart the more I think about it and it doesn't help that I really, really dislike Maisie Williams' appearance on the show. Her character just doesn't make sense. So she her character is immortal due to a field med-pack issued to Mire warriors by default - shouldn't all of them be able to outlive time now? Yes I know they can still die, but that she survives everything until the end of time (weren't we at the time already, by the way? At least once?
It's as bad as Rex whathisname getting Jack's immortality in 'Miracle Day' through blood transfusion despite it being hammered home that his blood is not special.
Also, end of time, where were the Toclofane and the Humans with fangs? Where was the Master, either Yana or Saxon from 'The End of Time'? Why is Rassilon (a Time Lord god) now the Doctors TRIBBLE? Dude can turn fools to stone with his mind whilst dead and has a mitten that can erase people from existence, and it's implied he has something to do with the Weeping Angels. You're not getting him off of Gallifray just because a bunch of ground troops crossed a line in the sand.
Sorry, my point was there was a lot of stupid moments that the Immortal Me brought to the forefront.
I know Moffat wiped everything prior to series 5 from canon or something with his stupid nonsense but still). I really didn't get the impression that she was so special in the first place. Her whole appearance just seems to be "Woo! We got Maisie Williams!" - it doesn't help that inr eality, ratings declined and the BBC is rumoured to actually think about reducing the doctor to a four episode sherlock-esque series and the next doctor will be a young guy for the teens to marvel at again, so they thought bringing Mrs. Williams in the mix will save them. Well, meh.
Ms. Williams, she's not married as far as I can be bothered to check .
Ordinarily I'd not mind a reduction as it might bump up the quality however the last time they did that was the 10th Doctors final run ('The Next Doctor' to End of Time Part II') and only one was great ('The Waters of Mars').
Yes, seeing the classic TARDIS was a very nice retro-touch. I'm not thrilled to see River returning, but that's me being biased. I basically hate everything with a few exceptions that happened during Smith's Doctor to the degree that I actually wanted to stop watching at all. I'm glad I didn't do that since Capaldi's Doctor and Jenna Coleman's companion were a brilliant team up and Clara really grew up becoming the first (in my opinion) companion with a strong independent presence instead of just being "the companion", maybe next to Rose and Martha (the latter however suffered greatly from the unnecessary love interest plot).
I also dislike River just because she's so super-special-awesome, the same reason why I disliked Clara until 'Day of the Doctor'. Just for once I'd like a companion who isn't the mostist specialist person in the Universe. We've had one since 2005 and that was Martha. Or just go all out with the special awesome and bring back Jack .
I can't say much about the classic companions as me and my wife just watched the first doctor (Still a shame Susan was never mentioned in the "next gen" series) and never got around to watch more than a few episodes of the rest, but yeah. We loved clara
If you want to watch it seriously I'd recommend watching from 'Spearhead in Space' to whenever you get tired out. The 3rd Doctor's run is (in my opinion) the most consistent of all Doctors and maintains a solid feel all the way through. Plus, from that point on, all episodes exist and are in colour. Also you get the best Doctor first .
And an entire series without the pater noster gang? Really? The only thing show runner Moffat brought us which was good?
Meah, they were okay.
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Maybe it was a TARDIS meuseam for a type 40 that they robbed.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I just remembered something that really bugged me: How did the Doctor remember and have the horror of those 4 billion years? I thought he got reset every few days/weeks?
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A Romulan Strike Team, Missing Farmers and an ancient base on a Klingon Border world. But what connects them? Find out in my First Foundary mission: 'The Jeroan Farmer Escapade'
It's as bad as Rex whathisname getting Jack's immortality in 'Miracle Day' through blood transfusion despite it being hammered home that his blood is not special.
Also, end of time, where were the Toclofane and the Humans with fangs? Where was the Master, either Yana or Saxon from 'The End of Time'? Why is Rassilon (a Time Lord god) now the Doctors TRIBBLE? Dude can turn fools to stone with his mind whilst dead and has a mitten that can erase people from existence, and it's implied he has something to do with the Weeping Angels. You're not getting him off of Gallifray just because a bunch of ground troops crossed a line in the sand.
Sorry, my point was there was a lot of stupid moments that the Immortal Me brought to the forefront.
You can tell without knowing everything before. She just seems in there to push ratings, at least that's my guess. And the "end of time" made me a bit angry because, yeah, you cannot use a thing ove rand over again and expect it to be super epic every single time.
I also dislike River just because she's so super-special-awesome, the same reason why I disliked Clara until 'Day of the Doctor'. Just for once I'd like a companion who isn't the mostist specialist person in the Universe. We've had one since 2005 and that was Martha. Or just go all out with the special awesome and bring back Jack .
If you want to watch it seriously I'd recommend watching from 'Spearhead in Space' to whenever you get tired out. The 3rd Doctor's run is (in my opinion) the most consistent of all Doctors and maintains a solid feel all the way through. Plus, from that point on, all episodes exist and are in colour. Also you get the best Doctor first .
Amen to that. It was especially infuriating with Amy, but as I said almmost everything during 11's time was cringeworthy. Rose was kinda okay-ish, I really loved it later on, but always having an even more most super special person in the entire universe got old quickly
Certainly, thanks for the advice The first doctor was a given because otherwise I feel it'slike watching Star Trek without knowing TOS or "The Cage".
Yeah, I might be biased towards liking a strong TRIBBLE lead character But seriously, I like them. Even Strax, although reduced to comic relief, never gets old. Fear not my boy!
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
@grylak he doesn't. He realises how long it's taken every time he reaches the final room. And also when he finally breaks out.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
It's as bad as Rex whathisname getting Jack's immortality in 'Miracle Day' through blood transfusion despite it being hammered home that his blood is not special.
Also, end of time, where were the Toclofane and the Humans with fangs? Where was the Master, either Yana or Saxon from 'The End of Time'? Why is Rassilon (a Time Lord god) now the Doctors TRIBBLE? Dude can turn fools to stone with his mind whilst dead and has a mitten that can erase people from existence, and it's implied he has something to do with the Weeping Angels. You're not getting him off of Gallifray just because a bunch of ground troops crossed a line in the sand.
Sorry, my point was there was a lot of stupid moments that the Immortal Me brought to the forefront.
You can tell without knowing everything before. She just seems in there to push ratings, at least that's my guess. And the "end of time" made me a bit angry because, yeah, you cannot use a thing ove rand over again and expect it to be super epic every single time.
I'm starting to agree as her character seemed to be completely random with no direction of efficiency in writing.
I also dislike River just because she's so super-special-awesome, the same reason why I disliked Clara until 'Day of the Doctor'. Just for once I'd like a companion who isn't the mostist specialist person in the Universe. We've had one since 2005 and that was Martha. Or just go all out with the special awesome and bring back Jack .
Amen to that. It was especially infuriating with Amy, but as I said almmost everything during 11's time was cringeworthy. Rose was kinda okay-ish, I really loved it later on, but always having an even more most super special person in the entire universe got old quickly
I struggle to think of any of the classic companions that reached the levels of insanity the new ones did.
Certainly, thanks for the advice The first doctor was a given because otherwise I feel it'slike watching Star Trek without knowing TOS or "The Cage".
Because of the lack of flow caused by the missing episodes I recommend simply watching a few of the first two Doctor's episodes (or serials)
First Doctor
'An Unearthly Child' (4 episodes, but only the first is worth it)
'The Daleks' (7 episodes)
'The Edge of Destruction' (2 episodes) These three form a loose arc
'The Aztecs' (4 episodes, the original 'fixed point in time' story)
'The Sensorites' (6 episodes, and the basis of the Ood)
'The Dalek Invasion of Earth' (6 episodes, so much better than 'The Daleks')
'The Time Meddler' (4 episodes)
'The Tenth Planet' (4 episodes)
Second Doctor
'The Moonbase' (4 episodes)
'The Tomb of the Cybermen' (4 episodes)
'The Abominable Snowmen' (6 episodes)
'The Ice Warriors' (6 episodes)
'The Enemy of the World' (6 episodes)
'The Web of Fear' (6 episodes)
'The Invasion' (8 episodes)
'The War Games' (10 episodes)
Yeah, I might be biased towards liking a strong TRIBBLE lead character But seriously, I like them. Even Strax, although reduced to comic relief, never gets old. Fear not my boy!
I like Jenny and Strax but something about Vastra just grates me.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Re: Me... I've read a lot of beef about Maisie Williams, but I didn't have any problem with her (I did miss the first episode she was in) I've never seen an episode of Game of Thrones, however, so maybe it's because I'm not subconsciously comparing the two characters...
No comments about the christmas epsiode @artan42 ?
I mean, probably because it was rather... unspectacular. Like "Hmm, okay ". I'm not very fond of melody pond making a comeback and I hope there's something to the rumour that Moffat wants to take his leave which is he brought her back, but meh.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
No comments about the christmas epsiode @artan42 ?
I mean, probably because it was rather... unspectacular. Like "Hmm, okay ". I'm not very fond of melody pond making a comeback and I hope there's something to the rumour that Moffat wants to take his leave which is he brought her back, but meh.
Because I didn't get round to watching it until this morning .
I thought it was mediocre in the extreme. I suppose if you like River Song it might have been good, if you don't then it will have been bad. I could't really care less or more for her so the episode felt pointless.
I also really loath Matt Lucas though but love Greg Davis, so the guest stars evened out for me.
Not really a lot to say though other than it seems that is the final end to River now. There's nowhere else to go now except the Library.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
(...)
Not really a lot to say though other than it seems that is the final end to River now. There's nowhere else to go now except the Library.
I agree. I really, really hope we never see one of the Ponds ever again
I especially don't get why the Doctor plays jealous and his marriage with River is pushed so hard every time she comes up but in the end their marriage is just a ruse, there's no chemistry between them whatsoever...
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
(...)
Not really a lot to say though other than it seems that is the final end to River now. There's nowhere else to go now except the Library.
I agree. I really, really hope we never see one of the Ponds ever again
I especially don't get why the Doctor plays jealous and his marriage with River is pushed so hard every time she comes up but in the end their marriage is just a ruse, there's no chemistry between them whatsoever...
I thought they only got married to... um... fix time or something!? I honestly can't remember the reason why, but I'm sure it was for plot reasons and Moffat being far too clever again rather than for socially conventional reasons.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
(...)
I thought they only got married to... um... fix time or something!? I honestly can't remember the reason why, but I'm sure it was for plot reasons and Moffat being far too clever again rather than for socially conventional reasons.
Yes, they kinda just said the words to save everything, they don't share any kind of relationship or even personal moments aside from maybe the Doctor playing married man, but he doesn't really get it. Which fits his character, but it's all just so superflous.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
(...)
I thought they only got married to... um... fix time or something!? I honestly can't remember the reason why, but I'm sure it was for plot reasons and Moffat being far too clever again rather than for socially conventional reasons.
Yes, they kinda just said the words to save everything, they don't share any kind of relationship or even personal moments aside from maybe the Doctor playing married man, but he doesn't really get it. Which fits his character, but it's all just so superflous.
It just drags on far too much. I don't like my Doctor Who grounded. I like the ability to move from planet to planet and time to time without the same people and plots being present in them. The only continuity the show needs are the companions (and there should be more than one of them at a time) and that's it.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
oh please. I loved that scene when River realises that the 13th Doctor is her husband and she goes "ohh TRIBBLE..." and turns around to see him saying "Hello sweetie."
it was a nice way to end a twist, but the beginning was a bit rushed.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I just saw. I'm still not sure if this is a good thing or not. I didn't mind his producing style and the fairy tale theme he ran, but most of his writing (especially his generic female characters) felt a little weary.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
As far as I am concerned I don't know wether it could become any worse as I really dislike his overall style. Even if that guy who directed ST: Nemesis took over and the doctor runs around with akimbo machine guns and shoots purple trolls it would be better than Moffat's arcs
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
As far as I am concerned I don't know wether it could become any worse as I really dislike his overall style. Even if that guy who directed ST: Nemesis took over and the doctor runs around with akimbo machine guns and shoots purple trolls it would be better than Moffat's arcs
The arcs are part of the story, something I'm not so keen on. However the general fairy tale theme was something I did like. Similar to Hinchcliff and Holmes and their Gothic run or Cartmals (Sp?) mythology.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Ok, bit of news. Only the Christmas Special will air this year, no series 10 'til Spring 2017 which will be Steven Moffat's last.
Chris Chibnall, creator of Broadchurch will be taking over for series 11.
Ok, bit of news. Only the Christmas Special will air this year, no series 10 'til Spring 2017
That is tragic.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Ok, bit of news. Only the Christmas Special will air this year, no series 10 'til Spring 2017
That is tragic.
Indeed.
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"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
This is why I'm thankful that there are other ways to get my Doctor Who fix. Thank you novels and Big Finish audio drama's, plenty coming up there to keep me going 'til crimbo
Painfully disappointing. In a sea of unimaginative drivel soap-operas and brain-dead reality TV shows, Dr Who is one of the VERY few decent shows left that is worth making an effort to watch.
(keeping min mind that I don't have Sky or anything of the like as refuse to pay their ever-increasing charges).
I would probably recommend Netflix. You don't get everything, but you get a lot, and they also make their own stuff, and it's generally good, because they sell their subscription service to you, not advertisement space to marketers.
If you're into comic book TV shows, Jessica Jones and Daredevil are great. And their shorter format allows a form of story-telling you usually get neither on TV or on the big screen. (Though it is not that uncommon for British TV, I think, where they aren't married to stuff like "enough episodes for syndication" and what-you-have.)
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(keeping min mind that I don't have Sky or anything of the like as refuse to pay their ever-increasing charges).
I don't blame you there, I can get some Sky channels with the Youview set top box from Talktalk for between £5 and £15 a month depending on which packages I choose and what deals are on, it's a hell of a lot cheaper
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Yes, seeing the classic TARDIS was a very nice retro-touch. I'm not thrilled to see River returning, but that's me being biased. I basically hate everything with a few exceptions that happened during Smith's Doctor to the degree that I actually wanted to stop watching at all. I'm glad I didn't do that since Capaldi's Doctor and Jenna Coleman's companion were a brilliant team up and Clara really grew up becoming the first (in my opinion) companion with a strong independent presence instead of just being "the companion", maybe next to Rose and Martha (the latter however suffered greatly from the unnecessary love interest plot). I can't say much about the classic companions as me and my wife just watched the first doctor (Still a shame Susan was never mentioned in the "next gen" series) and never got around to watch more than a few episodes of the rest, but yeah. We loved clara
And an entire series without the pater noster gang? Really? The only thing show runner Moffat brought us which was good?
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YEY SCREWDRIVER is back!!!
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It isn't old yet is all I can think of for that bit. I also don't think Clara will allow Me to keep it. Also, the Doctors TARDIS is the only one ever shown with a broken CC.
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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You can tell without knowing everything before. She just seems in there to push ratings, at least that's my guess. And the "end of time" made me a bit angry because, yeah, you cannot use a thing ove rand over again and expect it to be super epic every single time.
Amen to that. It was especially infuriating with Amy, but as I said almmost everything during 11's time was cringeworthy. Rose was kinda okay-ish, I really loved it later on, but always having an even more most super special person in the entire universe got old quickly
Certainly, thanks for the advice
Yeah, I might be biased towards liking a strong TRIBBLE lead character
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I'm starting to agree as her character seemed to be completely random with no direction of efficiency in writing.
I struggle to think of any of the classic companions that reached the levels of insanity the new ones did.
Because of the lack of flow caused by the missing episodes I recommend simply watching a few of the first two Doctor's episodes (or serials)
'An Unearthly Child' (4 episodes, but only the first is worth it)
'The Daleks' (7 episodes)
'The Edge of Destruction' (2 episodes)
These three form a loose arc
'The Aztecs' (4 episodes, the original 'fixed point in time' story)
'The Sensorites' (6 episodes, and the basis of the Ood)
'The Dalek Invasion of Earth' (6 episodes, so much better than 'The Daleks')
'The Time Meddler' (4 episodes)
'The Tenth Planet' (4 episodes)
Second Doctor
'The Moonbase' (4 episodes)
'The Tomb of the Cybermen' (4 episodes)
'The Abominable Snowmen' (6 episodes)
'The Ice Warriors' (6 episodes)
'The Enemy of the World' (6 episodes)
'The Web of Fear' (6 episodes)
'The Invasion' (8 episodes)
'The War Games' (10 episodes)
I like Jenny and Strax but something about Vastra just grates me.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I mean, probably because it was rather... unspectacular. Like "Hmm, okay
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Because I didn't get round to watching it until this morning
I thought it was mediocre in the extreme. I suppose if you like River Song it might have been good, if you don't then it will have been bad. I could't really care less or more for her so the episode felt pointless.
I also really loath Matt Lucas though but love Greg Davis, so the guest stars evened out for me.
Not really a lot to say though other than it seems that is the final end to River now. There's nowhere else to go now except the Library.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I agree. I really, really hope we never see one of the Ponds ever again
I especially don't get why the Doctor plays jealous and his marriage with River is pushed so hard every time she comes up but in the end their marriage is just a ruse, there's no chemistry between them whatsoever...
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I thought they only got married to... um... fix time or something!? I honestly can't remember the reason why, but I'm sure it was for plot reasons and Moffat being far too clever again rather than for socially conventional reasons.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Yes, they kinda just said the words to save everything, they don't share any kind of relationship or even personal moments aside from maybe the Doctor playing married man, but he doesn't really get it. Which fits his character, but it's all just so superflous.
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It just drags on far too much. I don't like my Doctor Who grounded. I like the ability to move from planet to planet and time to time without the same people and plots being present in them. The only continuity the show needs are the companions (and there should be more than one of them at a time) and that's it.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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it was a nice way to end a twist, but the beginning was a bit rushed.
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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The arcs are part of the story, something I'm not so keen on. However the general fairy tale theme was something I did like. Similar to Hinchcliff and Holmes and their Gothic run or Cartmals (Sp?) mythology.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Chris Chibnall, creator of Broadchurch will be taking over for series 11.
That is tragic.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Indeed.
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I would probably recommend Netflix. You don't get everything, but you get a lot, and they also make their own stuff, and it's generally good, because they sell their subscription service to you, not advertisement space to marketers.
If you're into comic book TV shows, Jessica Jones and Daredevil are great. And their shorter format allows a form of story-telling you usually get neither on TV or on the big screen. (Though it is not that uncommon for British TV, I think, where they aren't married to stuff like "enough episodes for syndication" and what-you-have.)
I don't blame you there, I can get some Sky channels with the Youview set top box from Talktalk for between £5 and £15 a month depending on which packages I choose and what deals are on, it's a hell of a lot cheaper