Will the new USS Enterprise from the films and interior be added as a future Tier 6/7 Ship in Sto??

roguestarship

Wondering why that alt timeline ship has not been added to Star Trek Online. Be cool to have that ship and the interior.

daveyny

Probably not that ship specifically, but They could create something that looks similar if They wanted too.

They don't have the option to use anything from the JJ-Trek Universe, except the couple of things we have now that come from the lead-up to the first movies story.

Cryptic could be trying behind-the-scenes, to acquire the rights to use the JJ-Trek Universe in the game.
But nothing I've read or heard (rumors) suggests that that is actually happening.

roguestarship

daveyny wrote: »

Probably not that ship specifically, but They could create something that looks similar if They wanted too.

They don't have the option to use anything from the JJ-Trek Universe, except the couple of things we have now that come from the lead-up to the first movies story.

I didn't realize they can't use any of current stuff. Thought as long as was in Trek Universe they were good to go. Maybe they could come up with a ship similar specs later.

jbmaverick

There's 2 owners of the Trek IP. One owns the rights to the TV shows, the other owns the rights to the movies. Cryptic is working in cooperation with the TV show owners so they can use things from the various series, but using things from the various movies is more problematic.

daveyny

roguestarship wrote: »

daveyny wrote: »

Probably not that ship specifically, but They could create something that looks similar if They wanted too.

They don't have the option to use anything from the JJ-Trek Universe, except the couple of things we have now that come from the lead-up to the first movies story.

I didn't realize they can't use any of current stuff. Thought as long as was in Trek Universe they were good to go. Maybe they could come up with a ship similar specs later.

Cryptics original deal for the Trek IP, comes from CBS.
It included all the TV shows and the movies up to "Nemesis".
When Paramount and CBS split the Trek franchise, the JJ-Trek Universe became the property of Paramount.

Cryptic would have to strike a deal with Paramount to use anything from that universe.
Actually, if CBS were to create a new TV show, Cryptic would probably have to strike a new deal to use that also at this point.

I'm kinda-sorta hoping that something like that happens, cause then PWE/Cryptic might consider trying to acquire the rights to JJ-Trek at the same time.

weirdtrekie30

Oh god, no, I hope not! This is the prime universe and should stay as such.

artan42

weirdtrekie30 wrote: »

Oh god, no, I hope not! This is the prime universe and should stay as such.

Yeah, imagine if we got ships from the alternate timelines of AGT or the Mirror Universe!​​

captainoblivous

Nope. </10chars>

warmaker001b

USS Enterprise from the movies at T6 and such?

I am sooooo down for a Constitution-Refit as well as canon-accurate Sovereign-class First Contact and Nemesis styles!

lizwei

I will be forever grateful that Cryptic do not and never will have the rights to the garbage scow that is the JJprise, so such a silly idea like this will never, ever happen.

leviathan99

jbmaverick wrote: »

There's 2 owners of the Trek IP. One owns the rights to the TV shows, the other owns the rights to the movies. Cryptic is working in cooperation with the TV show owners so they can use things from the various series, but using things from the various movies is more problematic.

Welcome to: Everything you could want to know about this situation (including gossip).

My understanding is that at some point, CBS did get full rights to TMP through Nemesis. When the game launched, Cryptic had to go through CBS to work out deals with Paramount. I believe the First Contact uniform, Sovereign, and WoK uniform were all free because it made negotiations easier (and the WoK code was bundled with a Paramount home video release). My understanding (could be faulty) is that when Cryptic negotiated its license (they bought Perpetual's actually but CBS had the right not to allow Cryptic to buy it and had to sign off on the sale), the terms there specified that anything originating in any movie was off-limits without negotiation. And when Cryptic renewed the license, by that point, the rights to TMP through Nemesis transferred to CBS and were included in the new agreement. It might have been possible (unlikely but possible) that the canon could have splintered had that rights split continued, resulting in a situation where CBS would have had to disavow the events of TMP through Nemesis entirely.

There had long been licensee issues with splitting the licenses even when Paramount had the whole thing. When Decipher did the card game, at first, they only had TNG/DS9/Voyager rights. At one point they were having trouble staying afloat and the license negotiations were tense. And they jumped to the interpretation that "Trials and Tribble-ations" and Voyager's "Flashback" gave them rights to TOS and movie era stuff from those episodes. Paramount reluctantly agreed provided it was ONLY things specific to those appearances. It's my impression that sales from those products allowed them to renew and negotiate for TOS and movie licenses.

Also: common misconception is that CBS and Paramount are rivals. They have the same owners in large part and when the JJ-verse movies use another character from TOS, it is my understanding that they actually have to negotiate with CBS. The comics are jointly licensed by the two which is why you can have things like Q running around the JJ-verse and taking Kirk forward to meet JJverse Sisko and Dukat. Likewise, Paramount's reps have some veto power over what CBS can do. My understanding is that up until fairly recently, Paramount was saying "no" to live action Trek of any kind (but did support and encourage CBS to continue the prime universe and the Bad Robot guys -- who get a vote -- enthusiastically wanted an animated Prime Universe Trek series. But CBS had no interest in making one. But they were only willing to approve an animated series at the time.) Cast members want to make something as well but can only make fan films without support (and Tim Russ has been making fan films with casts full of Trek actors). Dorn has been pitching repeatedly. Pretty much everybody except Stewart and Wil Wheaton have expressed some interest in coming back for something. Actually Wheaton would (and has; he did voice work for the 2009 movie), just not as Wesley. Spiner has actually softened and suggested he'd do voice work (probably not cheap) at various points but has no desire to do the makeup, which got progressively more involved to reverse his aging. Avery Brooks was once against a return but has occasionally seemed more open to it if it's a social justice oriented story... But he has a lot going on that could interfere with his ability to return.

The funny thing is, if anybody would just say, "We're going to make an anime-style series about Worf", you would probably be able to make that happen if somebody wanted to broadcast it and was willing to order it to series. CBS seems to want something new and not animated. Paramount wants CBS to stick to animated and Simon Pegg wants to focus on new stories. Netflix wants Enterprise. A majority of the actors want to reprise their roles in some form and some are actively doing that in fan films or showing up at conventions in costume and in-character. (I have heard a funny story that Garrett Wang used to even turn up at the now-closed Vegas Star Trek attraction in uniform and in character and that he's told stories about how he was booted out of the attraction for interrupting tours in character.)

CBS has taken pitches from a few people (including Brian Fuller, the guy who owned the Star Trek Forever website, and -- rumor has it -- Geoffrey Thorne of The Wire who played Jake Sisko in a machinima test video I did). But CBS needs Paramount's approval to go forward with those pitches I think. The bulk of the pitches take place after STO. The bulk of what I've seen (which may not all be solicited pitches) generally have common elements:

- A Kirk descendant/cousin (often female) well after STO's setting.
- A loss of technology/resources after a war which collapses/shrinks the Federation.
- A change in how the Borg operate
- Ferengi having purchased/acquired a genetic modification technology that has transformed their race into something visually intimidating but which has left them somehow diminished as the servants of a higher power. In more than one pitch, the Ferengi have been transformed into monsters by an outside force that has also made them pawns.

Meanwhile, Netflix really wants to bring back Enterprise, supposedly, and keeps trying to negotiate for a miniseries/12 episode season series revival. Apparently their viewership stats suggest Enterprise found a large new audience on Netflix and they REALLY want to bring it back. Supposedly one advantage is also that Enterprise is part of the backstory for both timelines, which allows any Enterprise project to straddle the fence. (And as far as I've ever heard, the idea that Enterprise was a holo-program is purely a fan theory and nothing but the last episode was. And both CBS and Paramount consider Enterprise to be the backstory for both universes.)

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vetteguy904

Dear. God. NO. No ti anything JJ relates. that the heavens that's he's too busy TRIBBLE up Star Wars now to inflict more TRIBBLE on Trek

xepthri

Not interested in JJ-Enterprise.
Just nope. AND especially NOT as Tier 6.

eiledon

Would it come with a Lens Flare Console?

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zedbrightlander1

eiledon wrote: »

Would it come with a Lens Flare Console?

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:: tears out hair ::


:: blows self out airlock ::

khan5000

While I would like a Alternate Constitution class star ship in the game I realize that it may never happen. I however would like to see a refit or new version of the connie at T6

zedbrightlander1

Well, I had always thought that Cruiser Refit - Exeter Class, was STO's answer to the 2009 revamped ENT. I'm probably wrong.


Anyone like this version of the Enterprise?

It's just some Wallpaper I found on the internet a long time ago that I liked. I remember toying with the Customization to see if I could make a Connie-refit look a bit like the above, but I think I would need to begin with a TOS Connie and just play with the Nacelles. Can we even do that i.e. change any of the parts on TOS Connie?

I also like this Loknar Class design.

Back in the '80s it was one of the ship options of a Star Trek game, Star Trek: Starship Tactical Combat Simulator (played with pen&paper and dice. I know, that just crazy, right? ). Of course, the above image is a pre-refit version CGI-ed by The Red Admiral. In the game, the Loknar had TMP Refit look. All this about 30 years before the NX-ENT was conjured up for television. Okuda once said that game was the source of many models conjured for Next Gen and on.

zedbrightlander1

vetteguy904 wrote: »

Dear. God. NO. No ti anything JJ relates. that the heavens that's he's too busy TRIBBLE up Star Wars now to inflict more TRIBBLE on Trek

God, I'm such a Trek Nyrd that just looking at your sig pic, I can heard the score in my head.

Aww... You change the sig image.

xepthri

The only reason for a T6 JJ-prise is for one rich and generous player to buy it, go to PVP, and let everyone shoot him to bits.

xtynction

zedbrightlander1 wrote: »

Well, I had always thought that Cruiser Refit - Exeter Class, was STO's answer to the 2009 revamped ENT. I'm probably wrong.


Anyone like this version of the Enterprise?

It's just some Wallpaper I found on the internet a long time ago that I liked. I remember toying with the Customization to see if I could make a Connie-refit look a bit like the above, but I think I would need to begin with a TOS Connie and just play with the Nacelles. Can we even do that i.e. change any of the parts on TOS Connie?

That second image is a reproduction of the concept art for the Enterprise when they were looking at making Star Trek Phase II, which morphed into TMP.

khan5000

I use my Exeter as a stand in for the Alternative Universe Constitution class.

I don't think we are able to change parts on the TOS Connie

farshore

I hope not.

zedbrightlander1

xepthri wrote: »

The only reason for a T6 JJ-prise is for one rich and generous player to buy it, go to PVP, and let everyone shoot him to bits.

You mean like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8B1GNCSfX0


I like this one better since I like what they're doing over at ST-P2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbMVLtFGiy4

nostalgiaman

JJprise wouldn't fly. It has a brewery instead of a warp core.

artan42

nostalgiaman wrote: »

JJprise wouldn't fly. It has a brewery instead of a warp core.

TOS Ent would't fly, it engineering is made of cardboard.​​

dalnar83

I would rather see a T6 exeter

nostalgiaman

artan42 wrote: »

nostalgiaman wrote: »

JJprise wouldn't fly. It has a brewery instead of a warp core.

TOS Ent would't fly, it engineering is made of cardboard.​​

Sure it would. Just not very far! Then you could fold it up and have a boat.

But we do know which one Scotty would prefer.

khan5000

I support this

dalnar83 wrote: »

I would rather see a T6 exeter

leemwatson

Nope. I'm with CBS on this. NO T6 CONNIE....EVER! At the end of it's time, the Constitution Class was sold off or placed on border patrols, mainly as it's current space-frame couldn't accomodate all the 'then' new technology was coming in. Even though at the time it was classed as a Cruiser or 'Battle-Cruiser' (Klingon ref), compared to the Cruisers that are around now, it's woefully tiny and underpowered as well as being 'inefficient' in design compared to the sleeker craft that are around. You would have to 'up-scale' the dimensions of the Connie, just to even bring it upto spec for the power requirements.

themetalstickman

I highly doubt we'll be seeing anything from the AR in STO.​​