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drakethewhite
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So we go from a fat bragging Klingon who insists on a battle he shouldn't and then wastes his one shot he didn't even earn...
...to M'Tara who can't kill anybody but who despite the famous ability to travel anywhere at whim insists on trying again and again to the point of freakin' suicide. She doesn't even put up a serious fight against my character.
I swear, STO has the worst storylines of any MMO I've ever played and that's dunking under a rather low bar.
...to M'Tara who can't kill anybody but who despite the famous ability to travel anywhere at whim insists on trying again and again to the point of freakin' suicide. She doesn't even put up a serious fight against my character.
I swear, STO has the worst storylines of any MMO I've ever played and that's dunking under a rather low bar.
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Anyways at least they tried to explain M'Tara's power being severely weakened by your party disabling sub systems all over the ship. I agree though, I was expecting a fight with our first Iconian to be a little more difficult then that was. The thing is if you are geared out you are going to find every mission easy. They can't make it too challenging because then people who aren't geared out may not be able to complete the mission.
LMFAO
I enjoyed the story line.
Giant sphere with a fleet so big it blotted out the sun? Seemed pretty empty to me. The Queen of Iconia was in a beat up ship and that was all you threw at me? Seems that M'Tara managed to survive for more than two hundred thousand years without a survival instinct. I just wanted her to leave, to go and nurse her wounds and come back later, but no you forced my hand.
To top it all off there was not even a word of dialog about the fact that we made it all worse. M'Tara didn't want to kill all non Iconians. Now we have all the Iconian forces behind T'ket who wants everyone dead. First thing we should do with this stupid Deus ex machina time weapon is go back and tell ourselves to not kill M'Tara.
I really like the way Iconians look. As an alien player I am filled with envy when I think of all the parts of them I will never see in the character creator. A character with such a creative design, let alone the fact she was The Queen of Iconia should have a death with more meaning. This was just sad, one of those nameless council Iconians would have done just as good a job at making the rest of them angry enough to go on a killing spree without giving such a pointless death to a character with so much potential.
But the mission was top notch. Hats off. I need an Iconian boff please. Pleasy please.
Don't worry, the FED/KDF/RR aren't going to become time lords in the 25th century. Something will definitely go FUBAR (probably involving the "hey, we lost our homeworld and we're totally friends, right? Now hand me the parts I need to finish the doomsday device" Krenim), we'll have to look to some other solution, and wouldn't you know it there's an Iconian who isn't quite as rabid as the rest of them. She's pissed now but with the power of persuasive reasoning...
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Yah, but its only mid-season. They're not going to max space combat out now when they'll have to create some sort of satisfying climax later on.
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I think we will fail to alter history the right way, sure. That doesn't mean the temporal tech is a dead end either.
I think we will first mess up the timeline and bring back Romulus temporarily... and find out that the Romulans are better off now that they would have been had Romulus not blown up.
I think those time sensors will THEN allow us to find out who "The Other" is. And that's the real solution. But that we'll need the time tech to do it.
I heartedly agree...and it pains me to say that. The biggest thing is this episode has no inherent story logic whatsoever.
Im sorry Dev's -but unless I missed something during the current feature episode, then WTF! Major plot holes....frikking really major blood bad plot holes!
Why the heck then did we only kill M'tara?!
She was SO incompetent and again proved how utterly moronic the Iconians are... she called her family to come to her as she was dying-um hey stupid M'Tara, I know you are dying and all but...remember you are stuck on a booby trapped Herald now that ultimately killed you. Why the heck would you expose your family to that and make them vulnerable by calling them to your location too?
Im sorry but totally FAIL in the writing. We had them right where we wanted them on the powered down ship and having them to rely on their own internal power. If we could easily kill her, then why not the other Iconian fools who showed up!?
This story logic that was written makes totally no sense... I guess neither does the Omega vulnerability from 'House Peng' now either. Knowing that they are energy beings that readily syphon external power sources, shouldn't Omega then have made em more powerful instead of damaging them? Omega is the ultimate particle powerhouse, it should have made em like SUPER Iconians instead??? Anyway...
I am not impressed with this writing fail. Just isolating them in an environment with no power outlets for them to suck power from... we should just muck up their power bills and have their electricity cut. Fed's win easy :P
I don't hold my breath for the next feature episode. That one stunk in my opinion. Wasn't challenging and not compelling. I would consider getting some of the better Foundry writers to help out the Dev's writing team- they obviously need the help. I know that I have been harsh, but the writers should be made accountable for this failing standard in the writing. Star Trek has always held their episode writing in high regard for the most part of the last 49 years. This episode failed on so many levels. I am just so sorry to say that, but it did
Bad, Bad Idea!
No, I don't think so. I think it all depends on the specifics as we have seen Omega particle use on STO and on VOY too without the subspace damage occurring. Large catastrophic reactions will destroy subspace. Controlled annihilation or utilisation seems fine (and mind you we saw an uncontrolled Omega cascade damage damage T'Ket and no subspace damage there). Key word being control. I don't think Omega powered weapons would be an issue either even if it did cause subspace damage, if we are taking out a single sphere in an isolated pocket of space then not the biggest issue if total galactic extermination is on the cards from the Iconians. Just 'Nuke' their current homeworld or whatever with Omega.
Frankly Starfleet would be just as desperate to do that as to alter the timeline (actually Omega weapons would be easier with more controllable outcome then temporal incursions/timeline changing). If i was them i would have this as a resort before even attempting the timeline changing. They have access to Omega generators inside the sphere's already so they don't really have to do much except make a delivery platform or ways to incorporate it into torpedo or ground weapons.
Omega Phaser anyone?
I'd rather mess with time, because that can always be reverted if something goes wrong. Try and revert lightyears of obliterated subspace...
Sent ##### of allied ships and crews to their deaths.
Parked "#####" of ships next to some Krenim Fleet Holding which most likely gave its position away to the Heralds, Elachi or Vaadwaur.
Lost "#####" ships which will now leave more of allied space vulnerable to Iconian attacks
It can't get any worse can it?
Where were the Elachi?
EDIT: Nvm... We haven't screwed with the timeline yet.
"Can't... stop... laughing. Must... play... the episode. Must... fight... Iconian... because I.... am.... the hero."
Serously. I was expecting at any moment that M'Tara would raise her hand to sky and scream: "I HAVE THE POWEEEEEER!"
And what exactly was the whole point of this? We knew we would be vastly outgunned and outnumbered, that's why we were building the time ship in the first place. And why did we have to flee from M'Tara's dreadnought? Her family would have been defeatable in the exact same way we defeated M'Tara. It makes absolutely no sense at all.
Like I said no story logic whatsoever.
Let's hope when they wipe the timeline clean we forget this travesty of a storyline. Let's get to the Andromeda Galaxy already...
Oh and I agree with Reyan01 as well. This SO not the Star Trek thing to be doing.
i guess we would not be doing this I guess unless a last resort, though I do think M'Tara would have killed us regardless. All of the Iconians for the most part just want all of us other species gone... If I were in a room in that situation I would have said that "I didn't want to do this", but they leave little in the way of choice. Their actions are clear that they want to exterminate us. Even the Dominion were not that bad...if we had acquiesced in the end to them well I think, then yes we would have been slaves to the Founders, but they would not have exterminated everyone as even they saw that total obliteration wasn't good (Except the Cardassians, they wanted them gone for attacking the Founders homeworld).
The Iconians have been manipulating so many things and species to cause trouble for such a long length of time, they are the bullies of the Galaxy really who would do their most to hurt others without regard as long as it suits their purposes. They I doubt would be the type to allow an act of compassion to sway them and saving any Iconian in that act I think would be dangerous, turn your back after saving her and i wouldn't like to think of the outcome.
Are we? I mean they wanted to exterminate us before, how has that changed? Only difference now is that it is personal for them. It still leads to the same outcome in the end from them I think. They want us gone and are willing to do anything to do it. Even M'Tara could have asked for mercy. She didn't. As she was dying she told us that we were doomed and to think fondly that we were the only ones in 200000 years to have the audacity to challenge their supremacy.
So yes I think she wanted us gone and so too do the others now, and it changes little really
Erm,... well, Picard could barely handle the *empty* Iconian planet. He almost lost his ship. Anyway I think STO writers have a Janeway fetish tho. Violence is the question and the answer is always yes.
Yes a good point. I still think the unplayed card of the 'Other' here has more to do with this too. The control room on TNG on Iconia was vastly different to anything we have seen since used by Iconians. I still say a good possibility is that the Iconians in the past were more human like and that the 'Other' changed them and made them more war like and the energy beings as they are now...?
She was the voice of reason? I didn't get vibe at all from any of her interactions. She always came across as the smooth manipulator who liked every little thing in her control. After all she was the Queen too. Fits the MO.
Same ends, just different person at the helm now getting tot he same destination.
Been at work and not had a chance to play it yet and I've had my first fight with an iconian ruined.
Well done. *slow clap*
Does it matter if they are methodical or (opposite) sloppy? Actually sloppy and enraged normally means they are emotional and more susceptible to make emotionally driven mistakes.
That is why we have been putting the most sensitive stuff in 'spoiler' brackets.