1. Don't really care ...
2. But what's the connection between Risa & Ferengi ...
Context ... !? ... I have no doubts it's going to be a T6 Ship ... but offering a Lockbox Ship for free & making an entire Lockbox "obsolete" => kind of silly ...
Let's try and walk through your logic here. For the sake of arguement, let's assume you spent 200 mil EC or approximately $150 on lock box keys which you then sold on the exchange, the proceeds of which were used to purchase a d'kora. You're trying to tell me that you'd rather lose the chance at getting a summer event t6 d'kora and everyone else should lose that chance only because you spent a boatload of EC or real money on the t5 d'kora in the past?
Edit: Let me also make a few corrections to your post. It's not free because there's a time investment involved and a significant one. You're probably going to have to log in approximately 25 times for a period of 15-20 min over a period of about 35 days, plus all of the additional times you'll have to run it for alts (number of alts X 2). Free means it's instantly unlockable on your character and isn't hidden behind a time gate.
As to your second point about it making Lockbox obsolete, the d'kora has been obsolete for over 2 years now. Almost every lockbox cruiser that followed was better in terms of stats and consoles so wrong on that as well.
Ferengi Ship???...not a Risian Ship?????? People Including me were Expecting some "Cilivian Themed" Ship again, maybe something like a Submarine Carrier that can Launch Friggates (Corvetes for example) but a Ferengi Design?....hmmm cant say that i like that Idea, next thing
a WARship? that does not really Sound exactly like a Science Ship and THAT is even more what everyone was expecting and hoping for and what would be a Logical next Ship cause : Winter Event = Chell Grett Cruiser, Plesh Brek Escort, Sarr Theln Science / Summer Event = Corvette Escort, Yacht Cruiser, NEXT SHIP = Science????
I was expecting something like that, a civilian submarine/research vessel, so my sci alts could have some fun on risian ships more suited for them instead of flying the cruiser or the escort
Adding fun colors, and fun designs to a warship is just wrong.
So off in the distance on the water, imagine some menacing hunk of metal. Yep, it's like martial law was just declared on Risa, you know, to keep us safe from Iconians.
Why can't a warship be aesthetically pleasing both physically and with it's paint job? Saying a warship has to be a grey hunk of metal is a very human perspective.
Let's try and walk through your logic here. For the sake of arguement, let's assume you spent 200 mil EC or approximately $150 on lock box keys which you then sold on the exchange, the proceeds of which were used to purchase a d'kora. You're trying to tell me that you'd rather lose the chance at getting a summer event t6 d'kora and everyone else should lose that chance only because you spent a boatload of EC or real money on the t5 d'kora in the past?
That's YOUR logic ... not mine ... why do you even think I spent "whatever" on a T5 D'Kora ... I'd actually enjoy a T6 D'Kora ... but considering the Ferengi Lockbox IS STILL AROUND (they still earn money from selling Keys etc) ... it's just hard to believe / probably not gonna happen ...
It's not about personal taste ... it's about common sense ...
I was expecting something like that, a civilian submarine/research vessel, so my sci alts could have some fun on risian ships more suited for them instead of flying the cruiser or the escort
Well Highlandrise (my Brother) cant Answer you since he was Banned from the Forum for no Reason that i can see (his Posts are on Side 9 and 10) after Just 3 Posts, just because he wanted to Join the Discussion here and talk with other People, i allready Postet about it and asked whats going on, but still no Answer, my Brother is really Mad right now, and i can Understand him, this is NOT RIGHT and absolutely UNFAIR, he did nothing wrong :mad:
So this ship's trait better be the best trait ever for me to even bother with this event. Shirts that can't be worn anywhere but Risa and a ship that unless the trait is cool I have no interest in. Sorry but your metrics will just have to suffer. At least the winter event costumes can be worn all the time.
That's YOUR logic ... not mine ... why do you even think I spent "whatever" on a T5 D'Kora ... I'd actually enjoy a T6 D'Kora ... but considering the Ferengi Lockbox IS STILL AROUND (they still earn money from selling Keys etc) ... it's just hard to believe / probably not gonna happen ...
It's not about personal taste ... it's about common sense ...
The Risian Cruiser is still one of the best ones in the game. Cryptic has nothing to gain by gimping a ship that could potentially ruin the already sour mood of the player base after the whole retiring the pearls and ships announcement debacle.
Why can't a warship be aesthetically pleasing both physically and with it's paint job? Saying a warship has to be a grey hunk of metal is a very human perspective.
I find even a Scimitar aesthetically pleasing, but in its own way.
Never said the word "grey," but on the subject of paint, can one really imagine a paint job of the Corvette on a ship labelled "Warship?" If it's aim is to make potential foes laugh, no doubt it would succeed.
Having what looks like some civilian pleasure boat, or fun race space-boat suddenly become a problem for, say, the Borg, that's good strategy, but also quite ridiculous, which is where the fun comes from.
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The Risian Cruiser is still one of the best ones in the game. Cryptic has nothing to gain by gimping a ship that could potentially ruin the already sour mood of the player base after the whole retiring the pearls and ships announcement debacle.
What the ... are you talking about ... Risian Cruiser ?? ... Context ?? ...
One more try ... yes it's obviously going to be an T6 Ferengi Ship ... but just because YOU'RE assuming it's the one Ship you want, doesn't mean it's going to suck for everyone else, if it's going to be something else ... and who the .... is "gimping" anything ???
Well.... Nice to see the Males get a bit more variety this year! When we gals gonna get beach wraps? (ie: instant long loose skirt) Add sandals, an accessory or two, instant evening wear.
What the ... are you talking about ... Risian Cruiser ?? ... Context ?? ...
Ok one more try ... yes it's obviously going to be an Ferengi Ship ... but just because YOU'RE assuming it's the one Ship you want, doesn't mean it's going to suck for everyone else, if it's going to be something else ...
PS : Sorry for stating the obvious ...
The Risian luxury liner cruiser. What other Risian cruiser could I be talking about? No, I'm assuming it will be a modern d'kora because it's the only canon feregi ship we saw on screen besides the Naguse's shuttle and honestly, what is the likelihood of Cryptic getting cbs to approve of a new Cryptic-designed ferengi ship? Also, the Nandi we saw in that discontinued mission was a d'kora.
1. Don't really care ...
2. But what's the connection between Risa & Ferengi ...
Context ... !? ... I have no doubts it's going to be a T6 Ship ... but offering a Lockbox Ship for free & making an entire Lockbox "obsolete" => kind of silly / not gonna happen ...
Something else ... designed by Cryptic etc etc ...
PS : I'd love to see a "Free" T6 D'Kora btw ... it's just hard to believe ...
From Star Trek Online Wiki:
"Lobi Crystal Consortium is a Ferengi vendor at Drozana Station, where players can purchase special items for Lobi Crystals."
From Memory Beta:
"Lobi Crystal Consortium was a business that had connections with the Ferengi Alliance. It was a wholly owned subsidiary of Quark Enterprises, Inc. in the early 25th century. In 2409, it partnered with Sluga Military Technology in the sale of new D'Kora class Marauders."
There is your connection, they've all been Ferengi ships.
Edit to add:
They are Ferengi ships also because " the Lobi Crystal Consortium, who purchased the rights to manufacture armed versions of the vessel."
Edit 2:
I'm not saying I agree with their decision to remove the past ships, really I don't, but there is connection with this years ship.
"Lobi Crystal Consortium is a Ferengi vendor at Drozana Station, where players can purchase special items for Lobi Crystals."
From Memory Beta:
"Lobi Crystal Consortium was a business that had connections with the Ferengi Alliance. It was a wholly owned subsidiary of Quark Enterprises, Inc. in the early 25th century. In 2409, it partnered with Sluga Military Technology in the sale of new D'Kora class Marauders."
There is your connection, they've all been Ferengi ships.
So what you're saying is ... Event Ships = Lobi Ships ... good to know ...
I don't know...Warship isn't really that descriptive...could very well be a Escort or Destroyer :P
Warships are well-defined in STO. 4 aft weapon slots, a Tac CMDR BOFF slot, 4/5 Tac console slots, and just recently, the addition of the Destroyer/Warship Starship Ability Package.
On the other hand, there are only two Warship classes in STO right now, so this may give precedent for something else.
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Based on the bit... ...about firepower and luxury, will we be getting a unique bridge with say a Dabo table? Or pretty much anything luxurious?
Or is this fluff like last year's bit... ...about the Luxury Cruiser that did not, in fact, have any special shipboard amenities?
If it is the latter, getting that out of the way now could help us get past that and on to the Summer Event a bit sooner... thanks.
Well, if it's a T6'd copy of the DKora, then it might have dabo with leeta, and a trader npc.
But having a dabo table is for me a poor consolation for this years ship being some butt-ugly Ferengi Armed Cargo Tub.
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Well the event will be short for me. I will be after the shirt. And perhaps another DOFF from the store to finish out what I started there. I already got most things I wanted last year.
Sad you can't get those ships again. Should at least still offer them for others who wanted one.
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I'm so glad that Cryptic was smart enough and didn't listen vocal minority about science ship
Minority? The Majority was expecting a Science Ship, we allready have both a Cruiser and a Escort, so this time it was the Turn for a Science Ship, so i still hope that this Ship is some kind of "Science Warship" and not another Cruiser or Escort.
Majority? Couple people in this thread and couple threads in this forum?
Science ships are worst STO ship type and completely unpopular...
Yes the Majority Every Single one i was Talking about this was Sure that it has to be a Science Ship, and you dont have to Like Science Ships, enough other People do, i like them all, thats why i have the same ammount of Scis, Tacs and Engs, and i Enjoy them all, and since i allready have a Summer Cruiser and Escort, the Logical Next Ship was a Science Ship and NOT Another Cruiser or Escort, 2 of the 3 Ship Types got their Ship, this Time it was the Science Turn, Skipping that is / would not be Fair. So again, hopes are that this Ship is a Science Warship.
YES! My posts (from 2012) have been answered! I hope it comes with a unique bridge (different from the marauder) and that they create a ferengi console set
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Well...and here I was 100% sure it was going to be a release of the Corvette as a T6 ship with Pilot seating. A Ferengi warship is kind of...random....
Here's hoping the fun-loving Risians limit their cooperation with the miserly Lobi Consortium beyond the selling of said warship....
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Let's try and walk through your logic here. For the sake of arguement, let's assume you spent 200 mil EC or approximately $150 on lock box keys which you then sold on the exchange, the proceeds of which were used to purchase a d'kora. You're trying to tell me that you'd rather lose the chance at getting a summer event t6 d'kora and everyone else should lose that chance only because you spent a boatload of EC or real money on the t5 d'kora in the past?
Edit: Let me also make a few corrections to your post. It's not free because there's a time investment involved and a significant one. You're probably going to have to log in approximately 25 times for a period of 15-20 min over a period of about 35 days, plus all of the additional times you'll have to run it for alts (number of alts X 2). Free means it's instantly unlockable on your character and isn't hidden behind a time gate.
As to your second point about it making Lockbox obsolete, the d'kora has been obsolete for over 2 years now. Almost every lockbox cruiser that followed was better in terms of stats and consoles so wrong on that as well.
I was expecting something like that, a civilian submarine/research vessel, so my sci alts could have some fun on risian ships more suited for them instead of flying the cruiser or the escort
Why can't a warship be aesthetically pleasing both physically and with it's paint job? Saying a warship has to be a grey hunk of metal is a very human perspective.
That's YOUR logic ... not mine ... why do you even think I spent "whatever" on a T5 D'Kora ... I'd actually enjoy a T6 D'Kora ... but considering the Ferengi Lockbox IS STILL AROUND (they still earn money from selling Keys etc) ... it's just hard to believe / probably not gonna happen ...
It's not about personal taste ... it's about common sense ...
Well Highlandrise (my Brother) cant Answer you since he was Banned from the Forum for no Reason that i can see (his Posts are on Side 9 and 10) after Just 3 Posts, just because he wanted to Join the Discussion here and talk with other People, i allready Postet about it and asked whats going on, but still no Answer, my Brother is really Mad right now, and i can Understand him, this is NOT RIGHT and absolutely UNFAIR, he did nothing wrong :mad:
The Risian Cruiser is still one of the best ones in the game. Cryptic has nothing to gain by gimping a ship that could potentially ruin the already sour mood of the player base after the whole retiring the pearls and ships announcement debacle.
I find even a Scimitar aesthetically pleasing, but in its own way.
Never said the word "grey," but on the subject of paint, can one really imagine a paint job of the Corvette on a ship labelled "Warship?" If it's aim is to make potential foes laugh, no doubt it would succeed.
Having what looks like some civilian pleasure boat, or fun race space-boat suddenly become a problem for, say, the Borg, that's good strategy, but also quite ridiculous, which is where the fun comes from.
What the ... are you talking about ... Risian Cruiser ?? ... Context ?? ...
One more try ... yes it's obviously going to be an T6 Ferengi Ship ... but just because YOU'RE assuming it's the one Ship you want, doesn't mean it's going to suck for everyone else, if it's going to be something else ... and who the .... is "gimping" anything ???
PS : Sorry for stating the obvious ...
Well, maybe someday.
The Risian luxury liner cruiser. What other Risian cruiser could I be talking about? No, I'm assuming it will be a modern d'kora because it's the only canon feregi ship we saw on screen besides the Naguse's shuttle and honestly, what is the likelihood of Cryptic getting cbs to approve of a new Cryptic-designed ferengi ship? Also, the Nandi we saw in that discontinued mission was a d'kora.
From Star Trek Online Wiki:
"Lobi Crystal Consortium is a Ferengi vendor at Drozana Station, where players can purchase special items for Lobi Crystals."
From Memory Beta:
"Lobi Crystal Consortium was a business that had connections with the Ferengi Alliance. It was a wholly owned subsidiary of Quark Enterprises, Inc. in the early 25th century. In 2409, it partnered with Sluga Military Technology in the sale of new D'Kora class Marauders."
There is your connection, they've all been Ferengi ships.
Edit to add:
They are Ferengi ships also because " the Lobi Crystal Consortium, who purchased the rights to manufacture armed versions of the vessel."
Edit 2:
I'm not saying I agree with their decision to remove the past ships, really I don't, but there is connection with this years ship.
Sorry for all the edits.
So what you're saying is ... Event Ships = Lobi Ships ... good to know ...
Would be some weird "Ship Trait", considering there are no more Vendors in (Sector) Space ...
On the other hand, there are only two Warship classes in STO right now, so this may give precedent for something else.
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Based on the bit... ...about firepower and luxury, will we be getting a unique bridge with say a Dabo table? Or pretty much anything luxurious?
Or is this fluff like last year's bit... ...about the Luxury Cruiser that did not, in fact, have any special shipboard amenities?
If it is the latter, getting that out of the way now could help us get past that and on to the Summer Event a bit sooner... thanks.
Well, if it's a T6'd copy of the DKora, then it might have dabo with leeta, and a trader npc.
But having a dabo table is for me a poor consolation for this years ship being some butt-ugly Ferengi Armed Cargo Tub.
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Sad you can't get those ships again. Should at least still offer them for others who wanted one.
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I'm so glad that Cryptic was smart enough and didn't listen vocal minority about science ship
This is going to be hilarious, if it's going to be another "Science Destroyer" :P => without any Stats, "Warship" means squat ...
Minority? The Majority was expecting a Science Ship, we allready have both a Cruiser and a Escort, so this time it was the Turn for a Science Ship, so i still hope that this Ship is some kind of "Science Warship" and not another Cruiser or Escort.
Part of their keeping it more exclusive, even though there is no play outcry for them to do this.
What is with the shortened event length??? Hope the barter items needed are reduced proportionately.
Oh right that wouldn't fit the exclusivity model.
Ferengi love to eat insects.
So Ferengi ships are designed to look like their food. :P;)
Watch TNG 'Captain's Holiday'.
Bit of a stretch ... that Episode was also about time travel ... so it's probably going to be a Krenim Ship, next year ;P
Majority? Couple people in this thread and couple threads in this forum?
Science ships are worst STO ship type and completely unpopular...
Yes the Majority Every Single one i was Talking about this was Sure that it has to be a Science Ship, and you dont have to Like Science Ships, enough other People do, i like them all, thats why i have the same ammount of Scis, Tacs and Engs, and i Enjoy them all, and since i allready have a Summer Cruiser and Escort, the Logical Next Ship was a Science Ship and NOT Another Cruiser or Escort, 2 of the 3 Ship Types got their Ship, this Time it was the Science Turn, Skipping that is / would not be Fair. So again, hopes are that this Ship is a Science Warship.
The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
Here's hoping the fun-loving Risians limit their cooperation with the miserly Lobi Consortium beyond the selling of said warship....